General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: TeeArr on November 24, 2019, 10:41:27 PM
Title: Pretty fed up.
Post by: TeeArr on November 24, 2019, 10:41:27 PM
After playing Aces High for 18 years, maybe it's time to just say goodbye. Once again, I have been "muted" This time only my "Chat Privileges" are "currently suspended". Perhaps what I said to one obnoxious and pusillanimous player made me deserve what I received, but, I have seen worse by others, including this player. It has been over 48 hours, I have no idea how long it will last, which is in and of itself ridiculous. I come to this game for the fun of chatting as much as actual game play. The game itself has degraded into a smack talking, name calling horde fest, that with less than a hundred players on at any given time, has detracted from my enjoyment of playing. I know I am not the only one. Constantly having to defend one's self from the constant badgering and belittling from a few players who believe that if you don't play the game Their Way, you are a coward, gay, Communist, socialist and worse. I admit that I am as guilty as anyone, but in all sincerity, I have done it to defend myself. There is a reason there are virtually no new players that stick around. Nobody wants to help them learn (although I have seen this change over the last month), and for the most part, no mentoring or training, let alone inclusion into the game. In fact, I have on more than one occasion seen the player I mentioned above, cut down and verbally eviscerate new players because they HO'd him, or bailed rather than be shot down. Even though this player HOs and rams almost everyone he meets unless he can pick them. Aces High won't keep players, new or otherwise, as long as this persists. Another thing I have noticed is that having three teams, with usually less than 30 players each, playing on huge maps. The two teams with the most players will gang up and split the third team until they score enough fields from that team to win before turning on each other.when both enemies have 20+% of your fields, it is nearly impossible to come back to win the map. The game needs to drop to TWO TEAMS until such time that there are enough players on a consistent basis to warrant 3 teams again. Also, Where are the features that will keep the old players as well as bring in the new ones? We haven't seen a new plane in years. 90% of the players in this game are over 40. Many even older. Many cannot or will not buy new computers to keep up with the latest graphics advancements. Many cannot and will not buy VR equipment, or even rudder pedals which gives others with those things a definite advantage. Add to that the discrepancy of what planes are perked, and which aren't, is a joke. I have put up with this for about as long as I care to. Something has got to change. If it doesn't, I will have no other choice than to leave what used to be a great game, with great people. Kinego, Nedermyr, OlShakey, Scabs, TeeArr, and many other names I have used over the years.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: FLS on November 24, 2019, 11:20:44 PM
If somebody behaves in a way that you believe hurts the game just use the report tool.
If you get muted there's a good chance you need to relax.
If you're not having fun take a break.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: whiteman on November 24, 2019, 11:29:48 PM
With some of the messages I’ve gotten recently I find it hard to believe some of y’all are adults. If I was a new player I’d probably say F yall and leave.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: save on November 25, 2019, 01:13:30 AM
I agree - the big maps need to leave rotation now.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Zimme83 on November 25, 2019, 02:34:57 AM
A large share of the AH is very toxic against anyone. New players are instantly accused of being shades/spies etc and anyone killing them is a [insert word]tard for killing them in the wrong way. Compare to other games AH community stands out unfortunately. The saddest part is that the community is much older than for most other games and thus should be more mature but thats not the case. The game really need some admins that cleans up in game.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: FESS67 on November 25, 2019, 02:48:28 AM
I come to this game for the fun of chatting as much as actual game play. The game itself has degraded into a smack talking, name calling horde fest, that with less than a hundred players on at any given time, has detracted from my enjoyment of playing.
You come to the game for the chat as much as the actual gameplay yet you abuse another player enough to lose the ability to chat. As unaccustomed as I am to agree with FLS, he is right, it is an indicator that you need to relax.
Constantly having to defend one's self from the constant badgering and belittling from a few players who believe that if you don't play the game Their Way, you are a coward, gay, Communist, socialist and worse.
I am going to read between the lines here and make an assumption that the badgering and belittling was precipitated by you running from a fight in a pusillanimous manner. Maybe if you came to fight as much as you came to chat they would not have used harsh words against you.
There is a reason there are virtually no new players that stick around. Nobody wants to help them learn (although I have seen this change over the last month)…………..Aces High won't keep players, new or otherwise, as long as this persists.
So, your opinion is that new players are not staying due to verbal abuse. New players are lasting less than 30 minutes. I do not think that is enough time for them to get abused. My money is on the fact that the UI is complex and even getting in the fight is a bridge too far for a new player.
As far as the older players. My opinion is they left because the game changed from fights to chases. It is IMO a big problem with the current gameplay. I am not sure there is much anyone can do about that, pusillanimous squads are living amongst us and it is their choice.
The game needs to drop to TWO TEAMS until such time that there are enough players on a consistent basis to warrant 3 teams again.
Many of us have said this for a while. The consensus appears to be that Hitech will not entertain the idea of 2 sides so no point getting uptight about it.
I have put up with this for about as long as I care to. Something has got to change. If it doesn't, I will have no other choice than to leave what used to be a great game, with great people.
Have not given yourself much wiggle room there have ya buddy! Be sure to phone Hitech and make sure he personally knows that you will have no other choice.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 25, 2019, 05:25:24 AM
I agree - the big maps need to leave rotation now.
Yup, along with the trigger happy mods.
Also +1 to two sides.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Max on November 25, 2019, 06:34:43 AM
Suspended chat privileges of the length you've stated, are the result of players' .reports. I believe a total of 10 separate reports are required to trigger the action. If you believe you've been unfairly muted, call Hitech and discuss. If it was done frivolously at the hands of one or more players, your mute will be lifted and quite possibly assigned to the ones responsible.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: seano on November 25, 2019, 09:46:51 AM
fly faster planes, then no one can run, tune to channel all, then you wont get offended, fly different countries to find red guys and ignore all the hate you receive from being a side swtcher. grow a sack, build a wall, or check your feelings. this is a war game, not sim earth. the other players are here simply to kill you. im sorry its not so fun anymore for you. nut lets face it, the old days are gone. flippz is here to stay, and im the KING!!!!!
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: popeye on November 25, 2019, 10:40:06 AM
When I get a <cough> intense PM, I just reply <S>. That usually ends the "conversation". :D
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: hitech on November 25, 2019, 10:47:06 AM
I have the ability to close all cross country messaging. I have been debating if I wan to run a test week with cross country disabled.
Who thinks that it is a good idea to disable cross country chat?
HiTech
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: CptTrips on November 25, 2019, 10:55:08 AM
I have the ability to close all cross country messaging. I have been debating if I wan to run a test week with cross country disabled.
Who thinks that it is a good idea to disable cross country chat?
HiTech
:aok
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: The Fugitive on November 25, 2019, 11:22:35 AM
we already have an optin/out. you have to tune 200 for cross country coms. I like being able to talk cross country, or at least watch. I'd hate to see it stop.
I think more mods and with them being harder on the over the top stuff. A reminder to calm down, and then mute if they dont. I think we have been able to get away with too much for too long and the internet mentality of bullying just adds up to toxic issues. Time to reign them in a bit. Some people are doing it just to piss players and is the only reason they are in the game.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Oldman731 on November 25, 2019, 11:23:03 AM
Who thinks that it is a good idea to disable cross country chat?
I don't. I very much enjoy talking to people I've just fought, or broadcasting where I'll be so that I can find a fight.
- oldman
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: TeeArr on November 25, 2019, 11:34:44 AM
The ability to opt out is already a function in this game: Don't tune to channel 200. That doesn't solve the problem. I don't know if deleting the ability to chat cross country will work, but other than disabling the ability of those who are offensive, (as has been done to me), I don't see any other way to fix this. People aren't going to police themselves. Maybe it is me. Maybe I bring out the worst in other players. Maybe if I stopped playing for a while, everything would be great and happy...but I don't think so.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: TeeArr on November 25, 2019, 11:45:05 AM
I don't believe moderators were involved in curtailing my chat privileges. It is a function of reporting. If you can get enough people to report another, they will be muted. This is especially true when it is after hours on a Friday or Saturday. Basically, there aren't enough people on who, on a day to day basis, care what most people say unless it is racist, or irremediably offensive. What I typed is nothing to the work arounds others use to to call out someone they don't like. And yet, I never seem to see them muted or their chat privileges revoked. Even in this thread on poster has done that by using the letter "F". Which is certainly as egregious as anything I have typed.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Chris79 on November 25, 2019, 12:09:14 PM
The ability to opt out is already a function in this game: Don't tune to channel 200. That doesn't solve the problem. I don't know if deleting the ability to chat cross country will work, but other than disabling the ability of those who are offensive, (as has been done to me), I don't see any other way to fix this. People aren't going to police themselves. Maybe it is me. Maybe I bring out the worst in other players. Maybe if I stopped playing for a while, everything would be great and happy...but I don't think so.
In game handle?
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on November 25, 2019, 12:15:15 PM
I have the ability to close all cross country messaging. I have been debating if I wan to run a test week with cross country disabled.
Who thinks that it is a good idea to disable cross country chat?
HiTech
Just ban those that can't seem to get along on 200. Many like it and do fine. Some do not do well and many of those are the reason they do not do well.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: FLOOB on November 25, 2019, 01:09:18 PM
Same old story.. My observation has been that the type of dudes who get themselves muted are also the type of dudes who get real angry about being muted. Bringing it to the forum is just digging the hole deeper. It’s just a video game dude, you may be losing perspective on that.
In your own words you said that you deserved it and it’s not the first time you’ve lost your privileges. So maybe, just maybe, the problem isn’t other people or this video game.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: TeeArr on November 25, 2019, 02:10:12 PM
I am not "real angry about being muted". I have been playing this game for over 18 years, and have been "Muted" one other time, some 10 years ago. It is my observation that that people who wish to pin the blame on those that point out a problem, are probably the ones who bully and antagonize them to begin with. If you play for any amount of time, you would see for yourself how people are singled out and ganged up on. It isn't just me, but it is the same people doing the bullying over and over. Your perspective is the one which needs adjusting.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Tracerfi on November 25, 2019, 02:18:46 PM
I have the ability to close all cross country messaging. I have been debating if I wan to run a test week with cross country disabled.
Who thinks that it is a good idea to disable cross country chat?
HiTech
I enjoy like some others have said talking to my enemies in a civil manner but if it needs to be done then I guess we will have to go without it since some people can't behave
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: waystin2 on November 25, 2019, 02:31:04 PM
I have the ability to close all cross country messaging. I have been debating if I wan to run a test week with cross country disabled.
Who thinks that it is a good idea to disable cross country chat?
HiTech
I was never on channel 200, and still got abusive PMs from internet tough guys, so I think this is a great idea. It was the primary reason I left the game, and would probably persuade me to come back. There's nothing like having a grown adult meltdown like a three year old and constantly stalk you in PMs. It kinda ruins the game. As for the OP, good riddance. Your actions are a major part of what has been ruining this game.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Wiley on November 25, 2019, 03:28:32 PM
I really don't understand what permasquelch wouldn't solve about this situation without bending the game around the lowest common denominator.
Wiley.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Arlo on November 25, 2019, 03:33:16 PM
Could it be made an Opt-in/Opt-out anytime feature?
We already have an opt in/out. Detune 200. But since it's not the default, newbies get a taste of AH kindergarten playground before they get anything else.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: hitech on November 25, 2019, 03:35:59 PM
Btw looking at the logs you were only reported once when you got muted, but you were reported Nov 22 by many people.
HiTech
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: hitech on November 25, 2019, 03:36:31 PM
You do not have an opt out on private.
HiTech
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Arlo on November 25, 2019, 03:37:38 PM
We already have an opt in/out. Detune 200. But since it's not the default, newbies get a taste of AH kindergarten playground before they get anything else.
Does that prevent PM?
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on November 25, 2019, 03:45:05 PM
I was never on channel 200, and still got abusive PMs from internet tough guys, so I think this is a great idea. It was the primary reason I left the game, and would probably persuade me to come back. There's nothing like having a grown adult meltdown like a three year old and constantly stalk you in PMs. It kinda ruins the game. As for the OP, good riddance. Your actions are a major part of what has been ruining this game.
You can still pm anyone. He is talking about 200.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on November 25, 2019, 03:46:31 PM
Btw looking at the logs you were only reported once when you got muted, but you were reported Nov 22 by many people.
HiTech
.... and that is what we generally see. Then they come here innocently to complain.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Arlo on November 25, 2019, 03:48:31 PM
A persistent block may do the trick. Keeps triggering and reverse triggering down (until a fellow AHer gossips to ya 'You should see what so-n-so is sayin' boutcha!') :old:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on November 25, 2019, 03:52:13 PM
A persistent block may do the trick. Keeps triggering and reverse triggering down (until a fellow AHer gossips to ya 'You should see what so-n-so is sayin' boutcha!') :old:
He said you mother smelled of elderberries. :confused:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Wiley on November 25, 2019, 03:55:14 PM
Get rid of 200. There's no reason to chit-chat with the enemy. We have PM if needed.
Coogan
200 is opt in. Cross-country PM should be opt-in as well.
It will always be too great a temptation for the rage-monkeys and it is unfair to the innocent party to be forced to make the extra effort to squelch them one at a time. Every time, since Hitech is against the idea of a perma-squelch list.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: DLXIRON on November 25, 2019, 04:09:11 PM
We already have an opt in/out. Detune 200. But since it's not the default, newbies get a taste of AH kindergarten playground before they get anything else.
Yeah but you cant opt out of rage PMs or what has now become popular are rage voice PMs.
Dougie
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ramesis on November 25, 2019, 04:15:14 PM
Get rid of 200. There's no reason to chit-chat with the enemy. We have PM if needed.
Coogan
:aok
Like arguments for or against abortion... I do not care either way
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Mister Fork on November 25, 2019, 04:19:31 PM
I think Hitech was asking if we want the ability to mute direct messaging from opposing countries - which honestly should be an arena setting just like channel 200 (which used to be channel 1 for u older players)
Now with that clarification, does it make sense to disable cross-country direct messaging? (I'm assuming that's what you meant Hitech)
I'll stick my hand up and say yes, it should be an option I can disable as an admin and as a player.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: 100Coogn on November 25, 2019, 04:21:15 PM
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: TeeArr on November 25, 2019, 05:30:09 PM
It seems that I made a mistake in posting what I thought was problematic and unjust. Pardon me for seeking a solution from this particular arena. XconX, a person who no longer plays and has admittedly quit the game, has pinned the blame squarely on me for the faults of this game. So be it. It has been a blast playing for as long as I have, and with the numerous other players, many who no longer log on, or have cancelled their subscriptions. Perhaps, HiTech, if you were to look at the actual posts prompting me to say what got me muted...and what I actually said, you would have a different view of why things happened the way they did. It isn't just about numbers. This thread has shown me that, even after 18 years of a constant subscription, it is probably time to do something else. As far as I'm concerned, someone can close and lock this thread.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 25, 2019, 05:46:43 PM
It seems that I made a mistake in posting what I thought was problematic and unjust. Pardon me for seeking a solution from this particular arena. XconX, a person who no longer plays and has admittedly quit the game, has pinned the blame squarely on me for the faults of this game. So be it. It has been a blast playing for as long as I have, and with the numerous other players, many who no longer log on, or have cancelled their subscriptions. Perhaps, HiTech, if you were to look at the actual posts prompting me to say what got me muted...and what I actually said, you would have a different view of why things happened the way they did. It isn't just about numbers. This thread has shown me that, even after 18 years of a constant subscription, it is probably time to do something else. As far as I'm concerned, someone can close and lock this thread.
Geez. C'mon. Get over the self-persecution and just have fun.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: CptTrips on November 25, 2019, 06:06:52 PM
They already have that by tuning out 200. :headscratch:
I meant in terms of tuning out problematic individuals as opposed to the entire place going silent because people can't handle interacting with people.
I'm sorry you didn't get the sympathy you were expecting, TeeArr. Apparently we are not sufficiently invested in your life to leap to your defense as you expected.
Wiley.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: captain1ma on November 25, 2019, 06:31:28 PM
I think in the MA it might make sense, since theres so much smack talk, as long as it doesn't affect the AVA. during Monday night madness in the AVA, we actually enjoy talking to each other. we use it as a training tool.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ciaphas on November 25, 2019, 08:23:12 PM
Remove cross country chat, Pm and Xcountry player vox tuning for the MA but allow it as a config item for special arenas (ava, sea1/2, and custom arenas).
The toxicity that many people see only degrades game play and arena atmosphere. You would think that with the niche game that this is, people would be able to conduct themselves as adults... .
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Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Pluto on November 25, 2019, 08:35:43 PM
I quit tuning to 200 awhile ago and it made the game more enjoyable for me. I occasionally pop on to check it out until the nonsense starts. I do enjoy private messaging friends on the other side, but definitely could see how some could and would abuse the privilege. I also work away from home for four weeks at a time without being able to play so that keeps the game a bit fresher. The people I see that seem to be the worse on 200 or raging are the ones that are constantly playing all day every day. Short breaks here and there help quite a bit.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: hgtonyvi on November 25, 2019, 10:59:36 PM
Nope...leave everything how it is...200 is optional...if you feel offended by anyone simply squelch them or detune channel 200....simple thinking.....move on and keep shooting bad guys... :rock :rock
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: SAAMIAM on November 26, 2019, 04:44:13 AM
So, your opinion is that new players are not staying due to verbal abuse. New players are lasting less than 30 minutes. I do not think that is enough time for them to get abused. My money is on the fact that the UI is complex and even getting in the fight is a bridge too far for a new player.
If I may speak to my experience as a noob to Aces High III as it relates to the subject matter in this thread. I discovered AH about 6 months ago, started playing regularly about 3 months ago. I'll just bullet point for short read. 1.) Definitely it is NOT the UI that chases away newbies. Fact is, the UI is very user friendly, self explanatory and easy to navigate. (2 thumbs way up Dale👍👍). It takes some rabbit holing just to find Aces High to begin with so I feel any new player to come in will be a fan of flight sims/dogfighting. Pure and simple it is because 1.) Every member of the playing community has 10+yrs on this game, still play AH because they love it passionately and are expert++ skill level. I can testify by experience that even a top ace from another game will and does get thrashed every time he is in the air. It is like getting in the ring with Mike Tyson. Fly 10 min and get shot down instantly when engaging an enemy. EVERY TIME.. Its nobody's fault and another thing, you don't know if the guy you are engaging is a noob or veteran. All you know is it's a yak, or 109, or spit.. Look at what happened (and still happens) to me. Getting your bellybutton kicked is hard to stomach. When every tactic you try, every plane you fly, vehicle, field gun, whatever you choose will end up being a 1 to 3 hour session of traveling to instant death at the hands of everybody. How long would you play knowing that? Would you Pay $15 to be beaten into submission? With the HO's, Double teams by the perpetual Altitude potatods (hoards), The "hey, follow me to my CV, field, town so my ACK can shoot ya down for me", The guy that Vultches you from the tank thats parked behind the spot where your plane spawns or from above by the Orbiting Spawn Camper. Thats why noobs run away. It happens to all great games. The community eventually widdles down to about 10% of its peak and that 10% is the truly dedicated diehards. As for the age demographic in Aces High being mostly over 40. I think it is a flying thing, younger kids haven't the maturity or situational awareness to envision and implement successful tactics. Lastly, trash talking, belittling, bullying ect. Ect... I will speak brutally honest about this. First I flew with the Rooks for a month, then the Knights for a month, then back to Rooks to join BT's. I never once, not a single occasion did I experience any negativity, bullying by anybody. Not once. I play 3 to 6 hours a day, everyday. Every player i ran into was very very friendly, patient and willing to help when asked. Fact is, I am guilty of sending messages on occasion like "Weak Sauce supersweetheart!! You need to run and hide under mommy's CV skirt so she can shoot me down for you" or "👍👍 Way to go Capt. Kantfight! Good job avoiding the 3 enemy fighters at your alt while you dive past them to Vultch me and Bline to land the kill".. also, I have not witnessed any of said trash talking you mention in the Melee Arena.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 26, 2019, 05:31:40 AM
If I may speak to my experience as a noob to Aces High III as it relates to the subject matter in this thread. I discovered AH about 6 months ago, started playing regularly about 3 months ago. I'll just bullet point for short read. 1.) Definitely it is NOT the UI that chases away newbies. Fact is, the UI is very user friendly, self explanatory and easy to navigate. (2 thumbs way up Dale👍👍). It takes some rabbit holing just to find Aces High to begin with so I feel any new player to come in will be a fan of flight sims/dogfighting. Pure and simple it is because 1.) Every member of the playing community has 10+yrs on this game, still play AH because they love it passionately and are expert++ skill level. I can testify by experience that even a top ace from another game will and does get thrashed every time he is in the air. It is like getting in the ring with Mike Tyson. Fly 10 min and get shot down instantly when engaging an enemy. EVERY TIME.. Its nobody's fault and another thing, you don't know if the guy you are engaging is a noob or veteran. All you know is it's a yak, or 109, or spit.. Look at what happened (and still happens) to me. Getting your bellybutton kicked is hard to stomach. When every tactic you try, every plane you fly, vehicle, field gun, whatever you choose will end up being a 1 to 3 hour session of traveling to instant death at the hands of everybody. How long would you play knowing that? Would you Pay $15 to be beaten into submission? With the HO's, Double teams by the perpetual Altitude potatods (hoards), The "hey, follow me to my CV, field, town so my ACK can shoot ya down for me", The guy that Vultches you from the tank thats parked behind the spot where your plane spawns or from above by the Orbiting Spawn Camper. Thats why noobs run away. It happens to all great games. The community eventually widdles down to about 10% of its peak and that 10% is the truly dedicated diehards. As for the age demographic in Aces High being mostly over 40. I think it is a flying thing, younger kids haven't the maturity or situational awareness to envision and implement successful tactics. Lastly, trash talking, belittling, bullying ect. Ect... I will speak brutally honest about this. First I flew with the Rooks for a month, then the Knights for a month, then back to Rooks to join BT's. I never once, not a single occasion did I experience any negativity, bullying by anybody. Not once. I play 3 to 6 hours a day, everyday. Every player i ran into was very very friendly, patient and willing to help when asked. Fact is, I am guilty of sending messages on occasion like "Weak Sauce supersweetheart!! You need to run and hide under mommy's CV skirt so she can shoot me down for you" or "👍👍 Way to go Capt. Kantfight! Good job avoiding the 3 enemy fighters at your alt while you dive past them to Vultch me and Bline to land the kill".. also, I have not witnessed any of said trash talking you mention in the Melee Arena.
You're trolling, right?
The UI is terrible for a new player. Glad you made it work for you. That makes you the exception that pppmtdp the rule. I can't tell you how many guys I've seen stuck on the runway or ground-looped off the side firing their guns into thin air. Attempts to help them were in vain and they eventually quit, never to be seen again. Maybe they're from China or something and didn't speak English, I don't know.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on November 26, 2019, 07:35:07 AM
Although, thinking back on the last year or two I'd say conservatively that 80% of the stuff I see on 200 has been some variation on:
- You HOed me and should feel bad. - You picked me and should feel bad. - I died outnumbered and you should feel bad.
Maybe losing 200 and cross country PM would be no great loss after all...
Wiley.
I thought 80% of chat on 200 was Lipper running his mouth about how everyone is a wimp because they won't fight him when he demands it, regardless of the situation they may be in.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Wiley on November 26, 2019, 01:27:00 PM
I thought 80% of chat on 200 was Lipper running his mouth about how everyone is a wimp because they won't fight him when he demands it, regardless of the situation they may be in.
You're right. "You ran, and should feel bad."
We're probably over the 90% point.
Wiley.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ramesis on November 26, 2019, 02:28:49 PM
I've been thinking on it a bit since HT posted in this thread, and I'm drawing a blank on the last time I used cross country chat. I usually use it for laughing about something that happened or saying good fight, but it's been a while. Maybe it would improve things, if the signal to noise ratio is dipping as low as it seems to be.
Wiley.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: fd ski on November 26, 2019, 03:07:13 PM
leave 200 on please. I have friends in other countries and i have enemies i like to salute.
I don't get worked up about stupid stuff people write. It's just a game. Just feel sorry for them.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 26, 2019, 03:25:42 PM
I've been thinking on it a bit since HT posted in this thread, and I'm drawing a blank on the last time I used cross country chat. I usually use it for laughing about something that happened or saying good fight, but it's been a while. Maybe it would improve things, if the signal to noise ratio is dipping as low as it seems to be.
Wiley.
I did the same. Dump it.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: 100Coogn on November 26, 2019, 03:29:59 PM
leave 200 on please. I have friends in other countries and i have enemies i like to salute.
I don't get worked up about stupid stuff people write. It's just a game. Just feel sorry for them.
Make it so you can tune to your friends. The other countries are probably not interested in what you guys are talking about. It just takes up unnecessary space in the chat window.
Coogan
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Frodo on November 26, 2019, 04:19:49 PM
we already have an optin/out. you have to tune 200 for cross country coms. I like being able to talk cross country, or at least watch. I'd hate to see it stop.
I think more mods and with them being harder on the over the top stuff. A reminder to calm down, and then mute if they dont. I think we have been able to get away with too much for too long and the internet mentality of bullying just adds up to toxic issues. Time to reign them in a bit. Some people are doing it just to piss players and is the only reason they are in the game.
Mods are useless. They are self described untouchable and only mute who they want. I have emails and pics I have sent to hi tec of one of his “mods” talking worse to players than most and also discussing sexual acts on 200.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 26, 2019, 06:28:03 PM
Mods are useless. They are self described untouchable and only mute who they want. I have emails and pics I have sent to hi tec of one of his “mods” talking worse to players than most and also discussing sexual acts on 200.
So now you know who the mods are?
Can we get a list?
:banana:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 26, 2019, 06:28:56 PM
Soooo, you do not like the 'hey follow me to ack' crowd and you join who? Modus operandi. Fly Yak3, Spit 14 or Tempest. Stay fast, stay high and if you see anyone even close to co alt run run run to friends or ack.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vulcan on November 27, 2019, 08:25:22 PM
Ahh the resident racist raises his hand again. I thought we spoke about this.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Arlo on November 28, 2019, 09:38:15 AM
British is a nationality, not a race.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: FLOOB on November 28, 2019, 02:31:58 PM
Dude saying British is a race is racist yo.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: FESS67 on November 28, 2019, 03:13:41 PM
"Racism takes many forms and can happen in many places. It includes prejudice, discrimination or hatred directed at someone because of their colour, ethnicity or national origin."
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ciaphas on November 28, 2019, 03:28:40 PM
"Racism takes many forms and can happen in many places. It includes prejudice, discrimination or hatred directed at someone because of their colour, ethnicity or national origin."
rac·ism | \ ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi- \ Definition of racism
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles b : a political or social system founded on racism 3 : racial prejudice or discrimination
Definition of prejudice
(Entry 1 of 2) 1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims 2a(1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics
prejudice verb prejudiced; prejudicing
Definition of prejudice (Entry 2 of 2)
transitive verb 1 : to injure or damage by some judgment or action (as in a case of law) 2 : to cause to have prejudice
Definition of discrimination
1a : prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment racial discrimination b : the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually 2 : the quality or power of finely distinguishing the film viewed by those with discrimination 3a : the act of making or perceiving a difference : the act of discriminating a bloodhound's scent discrimination b psychology : the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently Other Words from disc
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Chris79 on November 28, 2019, 04:59:44 PM
Question, I always wanted to move to Australia, is a criminal record still required?
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vulcan on November 28, 2019, 07:29:44 PM
Question, I always wanted to move to Australia, is a criminal record still required?
Pretty much. Although lately they've been deporting kiwis back with criminal records that aren't long enough - I think they're looking for white collar crimes these days. I hear whingey poms are next on the list so fess better watch out.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 29, 2019, 09:24:50 AM
You didn't see a problem using your Santini shade to bully ROCKY out of the game.
Nobody bullied Rocky. He was a skill-less chump runner looking for an excuse to quit. "Run, Rocky, run!" We have enough people who won't fight as it is so it's not exactly a tremendous loss.
Your obsession with Santini is crossing some sort of weird line now, btw. Time for you to go take a breath.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 29, 2019, 12:45:56 PM
Nobody bullied Rocky. He was a skill-less chump runner looking for an excuse to quit. "Run, Rocky, run!" We have enough people who won't fight as it is so it's not exactly a tremendous loss.
Your obsession with Santini is crossing some sort of weird line now, btw. Time for you to go take a breath.
Ohh puhhleeeaasseee. Don't act like the majority of players in p51Ds and 190Ds dont run when they lose advantage, including you and your FPH. I actually had many great fights with Rocky, seeing as he didn't spend a lot of time in the DA learning how to duel. It's a shame he no longer plays, along with many others.
I for one, think people need to be tougher and meaner to online bullies who PM mean things you or call you names. The online world is very mean and you have to stand up for yourselves and be mean back to them. They are just like bullies in real life. That is something AH taught me very well in my early years of online gaming. Banning speech is never the solution. Smack talking back to them and putting them back in their place is how to solve it. It's a war game for crying out loud. This isn't chess. Get meaner and stop letting people tear you down over online messaging.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 29, 2019, 12:58:41 PM
Ohh puhhleeeaasseee. Don't act like the majority of players in p51Ds and 190Ds dont run when they lose advantage, including you and your FPH. I actually had many great fights with Rocky, seeing as he didn't spend a lot of time in the DA learning how to duel. It's a shame he no longer plays, along with many others.
I for one, think people need to be tougher and meaner to online bullies who PM mean things you or call you names. The online world is very mean and you have to stand up for yourselves and be mean back to them. They are just like bullies in real life. That is something AH taught me very well in my early years of online gaming. Banning speech is never the solution. Smack talking back to them and putting them back in their place is how to solve it. It's a war game for crying out loud. This isn't chess. Get meaner and stop letting people tear you down over online messaging.
There's a difference between bugging out when you start to get in over your head (or are getting ganged/picked) and just making one [supersonic] pass and hauling as*. The latter was all Rocky knew how to do. He was an EASY kill when I could catch him. I once killed him in a dead run (when he had advantage to start) and pinged his airplane apart over about fifteen minutes, one piece at a time. Weak.
And FWIW, my FPH can, did, and does whip you any day of the week, any time of year, in whatever ride you choose. I once put you forward as my champion on a lark and you got wrecked. (Standing by for the list of excuses.) I've also taken you on 1 v 1 in Dueling and given you all you can manage, so I am no slouch, and you know it.
I agree that people need thicker skin, but we can all do with a dose of the chill pill before we type on 200 sometimes. Myself included.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Wiley on November 29, 2019, 12:58:54 PM
Ohh puhhleeeaasseee. Don't act like the majority of players in p51Ds and 190Ds dont run when they lose advantage, including you and your FPH. I actually had many great fights with Rocky, seeing as he didn't spend a lot of time in the DA learning how to duel. It's a shame he no longer plays, along with many others.
I for one, think people need to be tougher and meaner to online bullies who PM mean things you or call you names. The online world is very mean and you have to stand up for yourselves and be mean back to them. They are just like bullies in real life. That is something AH taught me very well in my early years of online gaming. Banning speech is never the solution. Smack talking back to them and putting them back in their place is how to solve it. It's a war game for crying out loud. This isn't chess. Get meaner and stop letting people tear you down over online messaging.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present for your consideration "part of the problem."
You'll get the same result talking back and being mean to them as you will ignoring them, plus you don't drag yourself through the mud and expose 200 to your boring, predictable diatribes.
Although TBH sometimes a trip through the mud can be fun.
Wiley.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 29, 2019, 01:04:16 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, I present for your consideration "part of the problem."
You'll get the same result talking back and being mean to them as you will ignoring them, plus you don't drag yourself through the mud and expose 200 to your boring, predictable diatribes.
Although TBH sometimes a trip through the mud can be fun.
Wiley.
There's some wisdom here.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 29, 2019, 01:15:49 PM
Whatever, dude. There's a difference between bugging out when you start to get in over your head (or are getting ganged/picked) and just making one [supersonic] pass and hauling as*. The latter was all Rocky new how to do. I once killed him in a dead run (when he had advantage to start) and pinged his airplane apart over about fifteen minutes, one part at a time to see if he would fight. Weak.
And FWIW, my FPH can, did, and does whip you any day of the week, any time of year, in whatever ride you choose. I once put you forward as my champion on a lark and you got wrecked. (Standing by for the list of excuses.)
I agree that people need thicker skin, but we can all do with a dose of the chill pill before we type on 200 sometimes. Myself included.
Actually that's propaganda and fake news.. you know it and the whole world knows it. :aok
Ladies and gentlemen, I present for your consideration "part of the problem."
You'll get the same result talking back and being mean to them as you will ignoring them, plus you don't drag yourself through the mud and expose 200 to your boring, predictable diatribes.
Although TBH sometimes a trip through the mud can be fun.
Wiley.
Your way never teaches them a lesson and allows them to believe they can still talk trash without any reprocussions.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Wiley on November 29, 2019, 01:17:35 PM
Actually that's propaganda and fake news.. you know it and the whole world knows it. :aok
Your way never teaches them a lesson and allows them to believe they can still talk trash without any reprocussions.
He destroyed you. Your list of excuses is in your post history. I also have films of our fights together. Next you'll be saying you weren't trying. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 29, 2019, 01:26:21 PM
I think it's an extremely optimistic attitude that your way does anything other than create more noise.
Wiley.
You are dead right.
The other thing that talking trash back does is give an inflated sense of skill. Isn't it funny how the people who are advocating trash talking back tend to be rather mediocre themselves?
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 29, 2019, 01:37:55 PM
He destroyed you. Your list of excuses is in your post history. I also have films of our fights together. Next you'll be saying you weren't trying. :rolleyes:
Destroyed me? LMFAO. Funny how you only reference the first scrimmage match drunk at 2am that only a dweeb would take seriously. Can't talk much about that second Duel can you ;)
His main rides in the MA were the La7 and 190D... (Gee I wonder why)
I would have thorughly enjoyed a one tour MA contest in any plane. Too bad he got himself banned. :neener: :rofl
I love watching you get butt hurt defending him with your outrageous statements.
I think it's an extremely optimistic attitude that your way does anything other than create more noise.
Wiley.
It might create more noise in the short run. But it would prevent them from doing it to you, or maybe even other people, again. I know it generally works for me. Plus I don't take it seriously so it's even more fun for me to shut them down. :D
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Wiley on November 29, 2019, 01:53:47 PM
It might create more noise in the short run. But it would prevent them from doing it to you, or maybe even other people, again. I know it generally works for me. Plus I don't take it seriously so it's even more fun for me to shut them down. :D
I've just never noticed it happen where a habitual trash talker changed much. I admit I do it when the mood strikes me when someone starts up with me or occasionally my side, but I don't believe it does anything to change their attitude except possibly feed their persecution complex even more. I guess what I'm saying is, browbeating people is not a public service. :angel:
Wiley.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on November 29, 2019, 03:00:09 PM
I once saw three Nuns shopping. One held up a roll of black material and said. " this could be a habit".
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 29, 2019, 03:05:18 PM
And FWIW, my FPH can, did, and does whip you any day of the week, any time of year, in whatever ride you choose. I once put you forward as my champion on a lark and you got wrecked. (Standing by for the list of excuses.)
Destroyed me? LMFAO. Funny how you only reference the first scrimmage match drunk at 2am that only a dweeb would take seriously.
You heard it here first, folks. I told you so.
:rofl
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Can't talk much about that second Duel can you ;)
His main rides in the MA were the La7 and 190D... (Gee I wonder why)
I would have thorughly enjoyed a one tour MA contest in any plane. Too bad he got himself banned. :neener: :rofl
He got banned precisely for doing what you've been advocating: bullying the bullies back. And he's better than you are in any ride. I've winged with both of you and seen how you each operate. In his case I don't blame him for using the La since he was always diving into a fight outnumbered five/six/seven-to-one while you operate at the edges looking for sheep to cull from the herd. You need a cannon plane with decent speed to fight outnumbered like he does.
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I love watching you get butt hurt defending him with your outrageous statements.
He's better than you. Significantly so. I've already proven that statistically to you as well using YOUR OWN STANDARD OF MEASUREMENT.
I've also fought both of you plenty enough to tell. It's no contest. He would crush you pretty handily, as he has already.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know. When he beats you it's because you're drunk and not taking it seriously.
https://youtu.be/YkHQNYDyoD4
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: FESS67 on November 29, 2019, 10:12:58 PM
Maybe some did. Most probably don't care. Some would probably prefer me to just shut up and put up.
For me it is a bit different. I have asked you on several occasions to stop attacking me based on my origins. You not only refuse to, you double down and take every opportunity to keep pushing. I will not sit down and be quiet while intolerant people like you continue to abuse.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Arlo on November 29, 2019, 10:49:52 PM
Maybe some did. Most probably don't care. Some would probably prefer me to just shut up and put up.
For me it is a bit different. I have asked you on several occasions to stop attacking me based on my origins. You not only refuse to, you double down and take every opportunity to keep pushing. I will not sit down and be quiet while intolerant people like you continue to abuse.
Why don't we just call you Bruce, then.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: FESS67 on November 30, 2019, 01:45:28 AM
He got banned precisely for doing what you've been advocating: bullying the bullies back. And he's better than you are in any ride. I've winged with both of you and seen how you each operate. In his case I don't blame him for using the La since he was always diving into a fight outnumbered five/six/seven-to-one while you operate at the edges looking for sheep to cull from the herd. You need a cannon plane with decent speed to fight outnumbered like he does.
He's better than you. Significantly so. I've already proven that statistically to you as well using YOUR OWN STANDARD OF MEASUREMENT.
I've also fought both of you plenty enough to tell. It's no contest. He would crush you pretty handily, as he has already.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know. When he beats you it's because you're drunk and not taking it seriously.
https://youtu.be/YkHQNYDyoD4
Keep being a little butt hurt beeotltch about it Vraciu. Only in your made up delusional dreams was he better. When you have to fly the easiest fastest planes in the game to pretend you are good in the MA, you might want to check yourself before taking trash. You especially bud. You talk about crap about Rocky yet fly almost the exact same way. Pot calling kettle much. A guy who flies who for 8 hours a day in a 190D/La7 pretending to think he's great in the MA is laughable and pathetic. A one trick Pony who couldnt do much after he lost the E rope merge. Your propaganda is false, your stats are false. Just face it, you have to lie and over exaggerate and defend a person who got banned for cheating. Congratulations!
https://youtu.be/bdfF0kl-z_A
What a real fight looks like.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ciaphas on November 30, 2019, 10:44:14 AM
Why don't you two meet up in the arena, run your film recorder and duke it out haha
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Arlo on November 30, 2019, 11:06:08 AM
Keep being a little butt hurt beeotltch about it Vraciu. Only in your made up delusional dreams was he better. When you have to fly the easiest fastest planes in the game to pretend you are good in the MA, you might want to check yourself before taking trash. You especially bud. You talk about crap about Rocky yet fly almost the exact same way. Pot calling kettle much. A guy who flies who for 8 hours a day in a 190D/La7 pretending to think he's great in the MA is laughable and pathetic. A one trick Pony who couldnt do much after he lost the E rope merge. Your propaganda is false, your stats are false. Just face it, you have to lie and over exaggerate and defend a person who got banned for cheating. Congratulations!
https://youtu.be/bdfF0kl-z_A
What a real fight looks like.
I fly nothing like Rocky and you know it. I can beat most people in this game. You just don't see it because I don't fly easy mode planes. You also know firsthand I can give YOU a handful.
I still laugh about that time you took me into the Match Arena to "teach" me how to shake people off my six and I hung with you turn for turn for turn all day long. It has to be some of the funniest film in my collection.
You can justify it all you like. I've already proven to you categorically by your own standards that he is better than you. I will wager $1000 right now that he can beat you in any plane you wish at least five out of nine times--it'll be more than that. Let's ask Dale for permission to set it up in a free arena. Just don't show up with any excuses when you lose.
And not only did he beat you without trying one on one, he also beat you with stats using TWO accounts. So both of his out ranked you. Also, I've seen him fight in a 51 with half a wing after being outnumbered five to one and win. Having flown with you and against you there's nothing you've done in my experience that approaches it.
He had no trouble beating you in his Spit above. :rofl
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 30, 2019, 11:35:03 AM
Keep being a little butt hurt beeotltch about it Vraciu. Only in your made up delusional dreams was he better. When you have to fly the easiest fastest planes in the game to pretend you are good in the MA, you might want to check yourself before taking trash. You especially bud. You talk about crap about Rocky yet fly almost the exact same way. Pot calling kettle much. A guy who flies who for 8 hours a day in a 190D/La7 pretending to think he's great in the MA is laughable and pathetic. A one trick Pony who couldnt do much after he lost the E rope merge. Your propaganda is false, your stats are false. Just face it, you have to lie and over exaggerate and defend a person who got banned for cheating. Congratulations!
https://youtu.be/bdfF0kl-z_A
What a real fight looks like.
The duel score is 1-1.
https://youtu.be/n6jjnCoBobc
Skyyr is 8-6 against Violator overall.
Oh man. The carnage. https://youtu.be/n6jjnCoBobc
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 30, 2019, 11:36:27 AM
Why don't you two meet up in the arena, run your film recorder and duke it out haha
I'm not denying Violator can beat me. All I am saying is that when he does I am competitive--not an easy kill.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 30, 2019, 11:58:25 AM
What you all are witnessing is a compulsive liar who is mediocre at the game whose opinion about performance is flawwed given that his own metrics and stats prove that he doesn't know what the hell he's taking about.
Hey Vraciu, how many times was Skyyr #1 fighter rank?
Hey Vraciu, how many Koth championships did Skyyr win?
Hey Vraciu, how many times did Skyyr have the most Kills in FSO?
Hey Vraciu, how many times did Skyyr have the most kills in Combat Challenge?
Hey Vraciu, what was Skyyrs best overall K/D per tour?
Hey Vraciu, what was Skyyrs best overall K/D in any specific plane per tour?
Hey Vraciu, how many times did Skyyr have the best K/D in multiple planes per tour?
I'll wait. :rofl
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 30, 2019, 12:12:05 PM
What you all are witnessing is a compulsive liar who is mediocre at the game whose opinion about performance is flawwed given that his own metrics and stats prove that he doesn't know what the hell he's taking about.
Hey Vraciu, how many times was Skyyr #1 fighter rank?
Hey Vraciu, how many Koth championships did Skyyr win?
Hey Vraciu, how many times did Skyyr have the most Kills in FSO?
Hey Vraciu, how many times did Skyyr have the most kills in Combat Challenge?
Hey Vraciu, what was Skyyrs best overall K/D per tour?
Hey Vraciu, what was Skyyrs best overall K/D in any specific plane per tour?
Hey Vraciu, how many times did Skyyr have the best K/D in multiple planes per tour?
I'll wait. :rofl
I already posted all those stats for you in a previous thread. You were in as much denial then as you are now. (See below.)
Edit in: Link added - https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,394512.msg5234879.html#msg5234879
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Skyyr only participated in one Combat Challenge. He ranked #1. Lol!
https://youtu.be/aq_EQLRXiGQ
OOPS.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 30, 2019, 12:19:58 PM
(I consider you a friend, V. We talk about stuff away from the game and you've gone out of your way to help me out on things. I am grateful. Keep that in mind.)
Not sure you're going to like the numbers, but since you asked, here they are, V. Remember, he played eight fewer years than you did (and 25% of the total hours). This is not all of Skyyr's shades. He flew other shades with higher stats than this. I'm giving you a handicap. :salute
(I consider you a friend, V. We talk about stuff away from the game and you've gone out of your way to help me out on things. I am grateful. Keep that in mind.)
Not sure you're going to like the numbers, but since you asked, here they are, V. Remember, he played eight fewer years than you did (and 25% of the total hours). This is not all of Skyyr's shades. He flew other shades with higher stats than this. I'm giving you a handicap. :salute
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: 100Coogn on November 30, 2019, 12:31:43 PM
Looks like channel 200 made it to the forums. Welcome. :rolleyes:
Coogan
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on November 30, 2019, 12:37:46 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 30, 2019, 12:48:30 PM
Let the record show that:
A. Lifetime stats are meaningless.
B. I don't trust his lifetime 109 kills by me. Seeing as how I had 21K kills but my 2 top performing planes only had 4 7K of those kills. Doesn't make sense.
C. Skyyrs lifetime best planes are the two easiest non perked run away fighters in the game, while mine are in 109s with higher enys and much harder to be successful in due to dive performance, ecceleration, guns, and top speed.
Last time I flew a 190D seriously, I went 66-0 for about half the month. That's how easy that plane is.
This all started because he talked crap about Rocky and now has to ankle hump his FPH because I called him out for doing the same crap he accused Rocky of doing.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ciaphas on November 30, 2019, 12:51:40 PM
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: pembquist on November 30, 2019, 12:54:31 PM
You know what strikes me about this little contretemps? Most people who are playing this game have only the vaguest idea what you 2 are talking about, more don't care at all, and a significant portion have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
I did like watching some of the films though. I wish Youtube would show them at a better resolution though.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 30, 2019, 01:05:10 PM
You know what strikes me about this little contretemps? Most people who are playing this game have only the vaguest idea what you 2 are talking about, more don't care at all, and a significant portion have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
I did like watching some of the films though. I wish Youtube would show them at a better resolution though.
It's okay Pembquist. Don't let it bother ye.
The 1v1 fight I won against Skyyr is actually a great duel to be studied. Shows what happens when he couldn't win the E merge. :t
Everyone knows I'm better anyway :devil
:bolt:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Chris79 on November 30, 2019, 01:46:23 PM
I’m not quite getting the fuss. So, pommie/pommy, is some sort of slur against Bogans?
The general theory is it is derived from the uniform prisoners sent from england to australia wore, it had POME on the back - Prisoner Of Mother England. There are other ideas related to the pom poms on sailors hats, or to pomegranate to describe the red faced english in the aussie climate (sun/heat).
Q. Why are the English still called Poms A. Pommie-bashing is seen as fair sport. And you can't complain: a recent High Court ruling in Australia determined that the use of the word 'Pom' is not considered derogatory.
So by law it is legal to call whinging poms in aussie... whinging poms. Fess - you're a whinging pom.
:banana:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Chris79 on November 30, 2019, 01:54:34 PM
The general theory is it is derived from the uniform prisoners sent from england to australia wore, it had POME on the back - Prisoner Of Mother England. There are other ideas related to the pom poms on sailors hats, or to pomegranate to describe the red faced english in the aussie climate (sun/heat).
The general theory is it is derived from the uniform prisoners sent from england to australia wore, it had POME on the back - Prisoner Of Mother England. There are other ideas related to the pom poms on sailors hats, or to pomegranate to describe the red faced english in the aussie climate (sun/heat).
Note: So by law it is legal to call whinging poms in aussie... whinging poms. Fess - you're a whinging pom.
:banana:
I think you are simplistic in your assessment. Your use of the term has always been to insult me and when this all started a long time ago you were derogatory in the extreme and telling me that I should go back to where I came from. I think you used much stronger words than that which I will not repeat here. Ever since that incident you have taken every opportunity you can to harass or insult me based on my national origin. Your intent is to offend and you use race to do that. I do not find that an acceptable practice.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vulcan on November 30, 2019, 03:22:45 PM
Would you be happier if I called you a whinging englishman?
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: FESS67 on November 30, 2019, 03:48:25 PM
We get it. We get it. You're offended by the word 'Pommy' and you equate it to the 'N word' and we should all treat you with kid gloves.
Not to be a downer but "pommy" is a derogatory term. I can send you to the many definitions from many different dictionary sites if you want me to.
It's not racist but it is derogatory.
If dude asked you to stop referring to him in that manner, why would you continue? Some people still wonder why players want cross country chat and PM's removed from the game. You guys have proven, through your own actions, why it should be removed. :aok
:salute
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Arlo on November 30, 2019, 04:47:00 PM
Well goody. :old: :cheers:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Max on November 30, 2019, 05:17:28 PM
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: wardog19 on December 01, 2019, 12:22:55 AM
With just a few posts in this thread, by a few people, conversations turn into verbal slugfests. It happens the same in game and so becomes quite clear that cross country chat(PM's) should be disabled.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: wardog19 on December 01, 2019, 12:26:33 AM
I have the ability to close all cross country messaging. I have been debating if I wan to run a test week with cross country disabled.
Who thinks that it is a good idea to disable cross country chat?
HiTech
With just a few posts in this thread, by a few people, conversations turn into verbal slugfests. It happens the same in game and so becomes quite clear that cross country chat(PM's) should be disabled.
With just a few posts in this thread, by a few people, conversations turn into verbal slugfests. It happens the same in game and so becomes quite clear that cross country chat(PM's) should be disabled.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: icepac on December 01, 2019, 08:22:32 AM
Closing cross country communication would keep alleged spying and shade abuse way down.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: flippz on December 01, 2019, 09:33:27 AM
There’s so much in this thread that’s weird. Achoo claiming he don’t fly like rocky? Max whining for skuzzy? Vulcan continues to harass fees openly with racists insults? I get muted for calling some one a sucktard lol. Must be why hitec doesn’t answer my emails of his mods in abilities to do any thing.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Chris79 on December 01, 2019, 09:47:46 AM
There’s so much in this thread that’s weird. Achoo claiming he don’t fly like rocky? Max whining for skuzzy? Vulcan continues to harass fees openly with racists insults? I get muted for calling some one a sucktard lol. Must be why hitec doesn’t answer my emails of his mods in abilities to do any thing.
:x :x :aok :headscratch:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Arlo on December 01, 2019, 10:10:22 AM
There’s so much in this thread that’s weird. Achoo claiming he don’t fly like rocky? Max whining for skuzzy? Vulcan continues to harass fees openly with racists insults? I get muted for calling some one a sucktard lol. Must be why hitec doesn’t answer my emails of his mods in abilities to do any thing.
:rofl Gawd, the irony of this... :rofl
You're an easier kill than Rocky and make Midway and I seem like mutes. You have one move: to HO. Once you miss that you're toast. I enjoy wrecking you in the DA almost as much as doing it in the MA. You've also just admitted to why you are the prime reason I support Hitech's suggestion we disable cross-country chat. Thank you for pointing it out to us with your "sucktard" reference.
Now, as to the original question... Some people are simply legendary when it comes to toxicity. That's a real issue at the heart of Hitech's question.
Come to think of it, perhaps Hitech should just disable THEIR cross-country chat privileges...
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vulcan on December 01, 2019, 12:52:44 PM
There’s so much in this thread that’s weird. Achoo claiming he don’t fly like rocky? Max whining for skuzzy? Vulcan continues to harass fees openly with racists insults? I get muted for calling some one a sucktard lol. Must be why hitec doesn’t answer my emails of his mods in abilities to do any thing.
If you're gonna use my schtick, do it in the correct manner....it's ACHOO
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: flippz on December 01, 2019, 01:54:11 PM
You're an easier kill than Rocky and make Midway and I seem like mutes. You have one move: to HO. Once you miss that you're toast. I enjoy wrecking you in the DA almost as much as doing it in the MA. You've also just admitted to why you are the prime reason I support Hitech's suggestion we disable cross-country chat. Thank you for pointing it out to us with your "sucktard" reference.
Now, as to the original question... Some people are simply legendary when it comes to toxicity. That's a real issue at the heart of Hitech's question.
Come to think of it, perhaps Hitech should just disable THEIR cross-country chat privileges...
Didn’t really read what you typed. It anyone that lost to judge 100 times in a row needs to shushhhhhhbhhhbh skyrr’s Lil knee sitter.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ciaphas on December 01, 2019, 02:03:07 PM
C'mon. Fess plays the victim card as much, if not more, than Vulcan rubs his nose in it. It's a mutual game of slap `n tickle from my perspective .... blown outa proportion by Fess.
Don't you dare call me a 'yank' or I'll scream bloody protest for years at random moments! :D
I would say it's a bit more than slap 'n tickle. Fess has asked for this crap to end. Respect it and stop doing it. It's really no more complicated than that.
I don't think this has been blown out of proportion. You have two grown adults who continue to act as if they are back on the elementary school playground. What, are we all 6 again?
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Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on December 01, 2019, 02:29:59 PM
It anyone that lost to judge 100 times in a row needs to shushhhhhhbhhhbh skyrr’s Lil knee sitter.
How is Judge relevant here? You can't stand on your own record so you always throw out this bogus "stat" to try and hide your poor performance against me. A lie is a lie no matter how many times you tell it, Bub. Talk about knee-sitting. You are trying to be his Mini-Me. Too bad you're not even one tenth of a percent as good as he is or you might actually beat me once in awhile. :rofl :aok
And as I've already explained to you, there is a difference between practice and dueling. When I practice with Judge (or 2Cmex, or Fess, or JoeBravo, or Mganiev, or Violator, etc.) nothing counts, even if one of us loses 10,000 times in a row. We are trying new things. Different techniques. Seeing how merges of varying types help or hurt a fight. It doesn't matter who wins or loses in those sessions. That's why it's called PRACTICE.
However, when I kill you 56:4 in DUELING where you've challenged me then that DOES count. In fact, I believe our last matchup forced you to rage quit because you kept losing. :banana:
I would say it's a bit more than slap 'n tickle. Fess has asked for this crap to end. Respect it and stop doing it. It's really no more complicated than that.
I don't think this has been blown out of proportion. You have two grown adults who continue act as if they are back on the elementary school playground. What, are we all 6 again?
Exactly.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on December 01, 2019, 02:35:53 PM
I was looking forward to coming home from work next week to play until I read this thread.
Have fun. You'll be fine.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: uptown on December 02, 2019, 07:09:08 AM
Do any of y'all realize how childish all this is? The best thing about Hightech letting these threads go on for so long is it shows everyone who the game's ultra melons are. :rolleyes:
Ultra melons is AcesHigh's word not mine. Ultra melon heads is more like it.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on December 02, 2019, 07:25:30 AM
Do any of y'all realize how childish all this is? The best thing about Hightech letting these threads go on for so long is it shows everyone who the game's ultra melons are. :rolleyes:
Ultra melons is AcesHigh's word not mine. Ultra melon heads is more like it.
This is what I wear when I play. True story. :old:
I have the ability to close all cross country messaging. I have been debating if I wan to run a test week with cross country disabled.
Who thinks that it is a good idea to disable cross country chat?
HiTech
+1 It would serve the game well. I think Game generated Salutes should still be active.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vinkman on December 02, 2019, 10:48:14 AM
Some people handle the trash talking well some don't. I don;t think it's healthy for the game to have everyone see it scrolling across the screen all the time. It just creates so much negative noise for the people that don't want to read it. Perhaps default radio setting would have 200 de-tuned. '.P' messages should come with an out of the way menu box that asks if you want to receive a private message from so-and-so, with option buttons to Mute. If muted you get no more pop ups. Making it easier to mute people might help. Perhaps right clicking on a message in the radio buffer lets you mute the sender.
In the end we should all be more immune to the rantings of aggravated players, but everyone has their limit for dishing and receiving. Some of these change might push that limit out a few hours. :salute
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vinkman on December 02, 2019, 10:55:18 AM
However, I agree that trash talk is bad for the game. I was on the one-sided receiving end of it for years, which is why I finally started giving as good as I got. The "elites" didn't like it when someone fought back. We were expected to sit there and take it like good little noobs.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: lunaticfringe on December 02, 2019, 11:47:05 AM
There’s so much in this thread that’s weird. Achoo claiming he don’t fly like rocky? Max whining for skuzzy? Vulcan continues to harass fees openly with racists insults? I get muted for calling some one a sucktard lol. Must be why hitec doesn’t answer my emails of his mods in abilities to do any thing.
So why do you have to call the losing pilot anything? the pilot already feels bad for getting shot down, but you feel the need to egg him/her, or berate them, why? why can't you just something like good fight etc. when I manage to shoot someone down, I don't say anything unless they pm me and start complaining.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: lunaticfringe on December 02, 2019, 11:56:01 AM
even in this forum some players berating each other, it's so ridiculous.
+1000 to turn off cross country chat and cross country pm's
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on December 02, 2019, 12:11:24 PM
Yesterday one individual was mouthing off over and over. Only one other was really responding at first and then he quickly stopped. The original just kept going and going. Looked pretty silly.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Lusche on December 02, 2019, 12:43:42 PM
+1000 to turn off cross country chat and cross country pm's
How would two players on opposing sides hook up for a quick training session in the TA? How would they meet up for a duel in DA or a private arena? Also that would mean having no cross-country help channel anymore. I'm not sure if that's a good idea in a time when one digit number of players per country are a regular occurrence... :headscratch:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on December 02, 2019, 01:18:42 PM
Again..... why do people who do not like it.... tune to it?
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: SPKmes on December 02, 2019, 01:49:35 PM
Again..... why do people who do not like it.... tune to it?
hey !! don't you come in here being all logilistical and stuff.... you have more important things to do...see this.... this margarita glass is empty. :furious
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ciaphas on December 02, 2019, 01:53:34 PM
However, I agree that trash talk is bad for the game. I was on the one-sided receiving end of it for years, which is why I finally started giving as good as I got. The "elites" didn't like it when someone fought back. We were expected to sit there and take it like good little noobs.
:furious Per Par? I didnt say a thing, dont put that on me! :rofl OOHHH...never mind, I cant understand V when he is inverted :neener:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: flippz on December 02, 2019, 03:09:35 PM
So why do you have to call the losing pilot anything? the pilot already feels bad for getting shot down, but you feel the need to egg him/her, or berate them, why? why can't you just something like good fight etc. when I manage to shoot someone down, I don't say anything unless they pm me and start complaining.
It was directed towards getting muted for something as small as that. Not the actual fight itself. Keep up with us I can’t type any slower.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: TwinBoom on December 02, 2019, 03:21:34 PM
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 02, 2019, 03:35:25 PM
Id make it a vote in the MA for a month before making the decision to just cancel cross country chat. It could have a bigger impact than anyone expects.
I don't agree with banning communications, and don't think cutting 200 or PMs would make any difference. It might make it less fun as you cannot talk to the community anymore.
For all it's worth, if you can't take crap talking from another player, perhaps you should find a nice off-line game to play. Basically any online war game is going to have these types of people.
The .report button should relay a message to the Hitech and if it's bad enough should result in a week radio ban, and if continues, a month ban, and if that continues, than a 6 month radio ban.
The key should be to punish the individual for their actions. Not punish the entire community for the actions of a few.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Oldman731 on December 02, 2019, 04:17:01 PM
This has been proven true in AH. It's part of the reason HTC has posed this question.
- oldman
Yeah, but disabling it for all negates the possibility for positive interaction. It seems to me to make way more sense to give the players the tools to deal with the problem people rather than silencing the entire other side. The community is not just the guys on your side.
Wiley.
Title: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ciaphas on December 02, 2019, 04:24:52 PM
What if Dale added a contacts/friends list?
If you add someone from another country to your contact/friends list and they accept, you can communicate with them all day long.
If you don't accept the invite, then the requesting person can't contact you via PM
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Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: 100Coogn on December 02, 2019, 04:31:17 PM
I don't agree with banning communications, and don't think cutting 200 or PMs would make any difference. It might make it less fun as you cannot talk to the community anymore.
I wouldn't recommend removing them totally from the game.
They should all be persistently configurable, and off by default, so as not to expose new players to the dysfunctional side of AH too soon.
Chan 200 is already that way. I see no reasonable argument not to make cross country PM follow the same model. At some point, players can decide if they want to wade through the cesspool if they are in to that. It should be an Opt-In choice. Join requests too.
You can seldom go wrong giving the player choices on how to configure their experience.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: CptTrips on December 02, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
I would say it's a bit more than slap 'n tickle. Fess has asked for this crap to end. Respect it and stop doing it. It's really no more complicated than that.
Well Fess does have a habit of randomly accusing me of being racist in threads on the BBS and in game. He also accused me of harassing him out of the game and changing my game ID to hunt him down (skyyr style?) - very bizarre as in the 20+ years I have played AH I have never changed my ID once. I have used the same account since the game came out of beta (1999?).
Here is a really good example of what I am talking about: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,395465.msg5249479/topicseen.html#msg5249479
Note that I have never ever participated in KoTH.
I don't really appreciate him constantly labeling me racist when it has been shown the term is not racist in a court of law in the country of his residence. Plus there are players in the game called Pommy, BTPommy and so on. People constantly point this out to him. He earned the whinging label as that is what he did on #200 and here... a lot and continues to do.
If he really wanted it to end he'd have ignored my post - right?
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ciaphas on December 02, 2019, 04:56:27 PM
Well Fess does have a habit of randomly accusing me of being racist in threads on the BBS and in game. He also accused me of harassing him out of the game and changing my game ID to hunt him down (skyyr style?) - very bizarre as in the 20+ years I have played AH I have never changed my ID once. I have used the same account since the game came out of beta (1999?).
Here is a really good example of what I am talking about: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,395465.msg5249479/topicseen.html#msg5249479
Note that I have never ever participated in KoTH.
I don't really appreciate him constantly labeling me racist when it has been shown the term is not racist in a court of law in the country of his residence. Plus there are players in the game called Pommy, BTPommy and so on. People constantly point this out to him. He earned the whinging label as that is what he did on #200 and here... a lot and continues to do.
If he really wanted it to end he'd have ignored my post - right?
Is this grade school? Dude asked you to stop. That should have been the end of it regardless.
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Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: pembquist on December 02, 2019, 05:05:29 PM
hey !! don't you come in here being all logilistical and stuff.... you have more important things to do...see this.... this margarita glass is empty. :furious
ROTFLMAO
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on December 02, 2019, 08:19:47 PM
hey !! don't you come in here being all logilistical and stuff.... you have more important things to do...see this.... this margarita glass is empty. :furious
That was my point. Do you have reading comprehension issues?
I'm trying to get this straight for some reason. Since he asked you to stop calling him whatever this word is have you not called him it?
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Arlo on December 02, 2019, 10:27:39 PM
Etymology of Pommy
Claim: “Pommy” (or “pom”), a slang term for a British person, comes from the acronym POHM, which was used to designate a “Prisoner of His Majesty.”
Status: False.
Origins: “Pommy” (or “pom” or “pommie”) is a primarily Australian (and largely derisive) slang term used to indicate a recent immigrant from Great Britain, or
a Brit in general. The origins of “pommy” having been lost in the mists of time, someone needed to cook up an etymology for it, preferably one equal to the pejorative sense of the word. Accordingly, we now have the story that criminals transported to Australia were designated “Prisoners of His Majesty” or “Prisoners of Mother England” (some versions claim the convicts bore one of these legends printed on the backs of their shirts), and thus the acronym “POHM” or “POME” eventually evolved into the slang term “pom” or “pommy.”
This amusing anecdote is doubtful as anything more than a fanciful invention, as acronymic origins antedating the mid-twentieth century are automatically suspect, and the use of “pommy” has been recorded at least as far back as 1915. Moreover, nobody has yet turned up corroborating evidence that “Prisoner of His Majesty” or “Prisoners of Mother England” were actually common designations for criminals transported to Australia. The best guess at this time is that “pommy” was based on the word “pomegranate” — either because the redness of the fruit supposedly matched the typically florid British complexion, or because (like “Johnny Grant”) it was used as rhyming slang for “immigrant.”
Sources Sources:
Ramson, William Stanley. Australian English: An Historical Study of the Vocabulary, 1788-1898.
Canberra: Australian National University Press, 1966. Room Adrian. The Fascinating Origins of Everyday Words.
Chicago: NTC Publishing, 1986. ISBN 0-8442-0910-4 (p. 136).
West, Paul. The Secret Lives of Words.
New York: Harcourt Inc., 2000. ISBN 0-15-100466-8 (p. 210). The Compact Oxford English Dictionary.
Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1993. ISBN 0-19-861258-3.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pom-pilot/
Calling English fans and players 'Pommy b*st*rds' during the Ashes tour of Australia later this year has been ruled perfectly acceptable by the ruling body of the sport in the country. Cricket Australia said home team fans who used the insult would not be ejected from grounds and nor would English supporters who called Australian spectators or players 'convicts'. The issue arose after reports that South African players were racially abused by Australian fans, who called them kaffirs and kaffir boeties [brothers of blacks], during matches in December and January. The International Cricket Council, based in Dubai, said this week Australia had a 'grave problem' with crowd behaviour and that among the players who were insulted were Herschelle Gibbs, Shaun Pollock and Boeta Dippenaar. Asked if Australian fans might be expelled for yelling 'Pommy b*st*rd' in the Ashes tour, which begins in November, Cricket Australia said the insult could not be compared with racial vilification on the basis of a player's skin colour. 'Our position is that to even discuss the expression 'Pommy b*st*rd' in the same breath as the racism faced by the South Africans trivialises the whole issue,' Cricket Australia's spokesman, Peter Young, said. 'Racism is where people feel sick to the pit of their stomach that they have been vilified because of their racial origin. We are not going to be chucking people out for saying 'Pommy b*st*rd'. In Australia b*st*rd is used as a form of endearment - 'G'day you old b*st*rd', that kind of thing. It's just not in the same league as other racist taunts,' Young said. At least 10,000 English cricket fans, led by the Barmy Army, are expected to journey Down Under from November to February, when Australia will try to reclaim the Ashes after England's spectacular victory last year. The debate recalled a story from the controversial Bodyline series of 1932-33, when the English captain, Douglas Jardine, reportedly complained to his opposite number, Bill Woodfull, that an Australian player had called him a b*st*rd. Scanning the Australian dressing room, Woodfull asked his team: 'Which one of you b*st*rds called this b*st*rd a b*st*rd?' The origins of the word 'Pom' are obscure. One theory has it that it derives from the initials sewn into convicts' shirts, POHM, or Prisoner of Her Majesty. Another suggestion is that it is an abbreviation of pomegranate, a reference to the complexions of early British settlers. Legend has it that during the 1980s a drive-in safari park in Queensland reportedly displayed a sign which read: 'Adults $10, children $5, Pommies on bicycles admitted free'.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ciaphas on December 02, 2019, 10:58:18 PM
So, let's look to the many dictionaries out there and see how "pommy" is categorized.
it as an informal/derogatory word used to describe someone from Britain or something relating to Britain. IE. a pommy accent (a British accent)
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Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: scott66 on December 02, 2019, 11:14:11 PM
86 something that you have to tune into to be apart of really makes sense lol because people don't know how to detune 200 on their own
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: scott66 on December 02, 2019, 11:17:12 PM
All the games I play have the ability to chat with everyone in the match or game unless you turn that option off but let this community hasn't figured that out
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Arlo on December 02, 2019, 11:31:25 PM
So, let's look to the many dictionaries out there and see how "pommy" is categorized.
it as an informal/derogatory word used to describe someone from Britain or something relating to Britain. IE. a pommy accent (a British accent)
There's no confusion. It's as derogatory as 'yank' or 'aussie.' Maybe even 'convict' (when it comes to Limeys referring to Aussies). Vulcan calls Fess a Pommy and Fess gets outrageously emotional - downright offended and publicly protests. I get that. I'm sure everyone here, including Vulcan, gets that. I suppose I shouldn't find it amusing .... but I do. I suppose I can keep that amusement to myself, even. Personally, I don't find Fess appealing enough to call him a 'pommy b*st*rd' nor do I find Vulcan endearing enough to call him a 'convict.' I don't hate either enough to do likewise. I'm kinda apathetic. My part in this useless exercise was, well, a useless exercise.
May all learn how to grow skin and get along whether they like one another or not.
Turn off 200. :D
P.S. That YouTube song brought a tear to my eye. :cry
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Ciaphas on December 02, 2019, 11:43:19 PM
And more importantly why shut down chan 200 if all I have to do is not tune to it.
Besides, if I don't tune to 200, there is no reason to turn it off.
I don't tune to it either. I guess some people can't resist because (insert reason) and that's why channel 200 is so delightful for new and vet players.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: CptTrips on December 03, 2019, 01:00:26 AM
I don't tune to it either. I guess some people can't resist because (insert reason) and that's why channel 200 is so delightful for new and vet players.
I was being snarky.
It's been pointed out multiple time this is not just about chan 200, and then someone pops in with the obvious, "It's simple, just don't tune 200!"
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on December 03, 2019, 03:42:21 AM
It's been pointed out multiple time this is not just about chan 200, and then someone pops in with the obvious, "It's simple, just don't tune 200!"
Probably because 200 was included in what they want banned. Simple as that. Regardless of what else is included in what they want banned it makes the whole request null and void.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: guncrasher on December 03, 2019, 05:45:30 AM
you know about what really bugs me about the game. it's guys that just logging and start whining about why we arent defending this or that base. I dont play often per say, but something I'll play all knight and we defend this base for like 2 or 3 hours and then we get tired or it. and it never fails. some guy will log in and why we arent we defending. always tell them shut up and up a plane and defend it.
semp
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: atlau on December 03, 2019, 06:23:41 AM
you know about what really bugs me about the game. it's guys that just logging and start whining about why we arent defending this or that base. I dont play often per say, but something I'll play all knight and we defend this base for like 2 or 3 hours and then we get tired or it. and it never fails. some guy will log in and why we arent we defending. always tell them shut up and up a plane and defend it.
semp
Stop posting and go defend a base!
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Max on December 03, 2019, 07:03:49 AM
I have the ability to close all cross country messaging. I have been debating if I wan to run a test week with cross country disabled.
Who thinks that it is a good idea to disable cross country chat?
HiTech
Bad idea, Marion Robert Morrison would not approve. Its part of the fun the few times I fly chatting it up with friend and foe. When some one gets out of line, a good verbal slap to the back of the head with a heartfelt sarcastic ear flicking.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Vraciu on December 03, 2019, 10:41:02 PM
Bad idea, Marion Robert Morrison would not approve. Its part of the fun the few times I fly chatting it up with friend and foe. When some one gets out of line, a good verbal slap to the back of the head with a heartfelt sarcastic ear flicking.
he's talking about private messages, it's been disabled for a couple of days now. 200 is still active.
semp
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on December 03, 2019, 11:15:42 PM
Bad idea, Marion Robert Morrison would not approve. Its part of the fun the few times I fly chatting it up with friend and foe. When some one gets out of line, a good verbal slap to the back of the head with a heartfelt sarcastic ear flicking.
Slaps pots with a dead trout
:rofl
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: potsNpans on December 04, 2019, 05:40:29 PM
Seems a bit much to stifle P.M.'s across the platform. Is that the only choice? Many times I'll get or send a P.M. with friendly chat, again that's a part of AH that I've always appreciated. As for you Shuffles, I didn't know that was a fish in your pocket, I just thought you were happy to see me? :kiss:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: nooby52 on December 04, 2019, 05:49:03 PM
Seems a bit much to stifle P.M.'s across the platform. Is that the only choice? Many times I'll get or send a P.M. with friendly chat, again that's a part of AH that I've always appreciated.
Agreed. Benign PMs help sustain and build the AH community. Is it possible to deny PM privileges to certain people but keep that option open for the rest of us? I can think of two bishops and one knight who are a very substantial percentage of the problem, and if they don't get to PM enemies any more said problem would mostly go away.
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: scott66 on December 04, 2019, 11:43:39 PM
doesn't squelch do that? I wouldn't know that is why I'm asking I'm so loved by all I've never had to do that :aok
I don't know. I've never had to use it. If you get shot down by me, you should probably pick a new game to play .
The beat I've ever done is 9 kills in a 110 and that was a fluke. I normally get maybe 1 kill but I do kill a lot of critters when my burning aircraft hits the ground.
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Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: scott66 on December 04, 2019, 11:50:27 PM
I don't know. I've never had to use it. If you get shot down by me, you should probably pick a new game to play .
The beat I've ever done is 9 kills in a 110 and that was a fluke. I normally get maybe 1 kill but I do kill a lot of critters when my burning aircraft hits the ground.
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after I get two kills I usually die or run away in my over modeled brew .. At least that's what others say lol
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: FESS67 on December 05, 2019, 05:28:52 AM
It's what you get if you fly near the oldman for a few minutes.
- oldman
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Slate on December 06, 2019, 04:10:17 PM
I'm pretty fed up with this thread. I expect it to be locked when I get back. :old:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Shuffler on December 06, 2019, 06:56:26 PM
Quick... someone lock the door when he leaves. :banana:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: delta7 on December 10, 2019, 06:50:52 PM
Sounds like the game has degraded a bit since I last played, reading this thread. I was thinking about playing again but yall about talked me out of it. :bolt:
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: delta7 on December 10, 2019, 06:59:45 PM
You got it fixed Hitech! I got in. :aok
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Oldman731 on December 10, 2019, 07:27:09 PM
Sounds like the game has degraded a bit since I last played, reading this thread. I was thinking about playing again but yall about talked me out of it.
Take some time to look back at the active threads when you played the game. If anything, I see improvement.
- oldman
Title: Re: Pretty fed up.
Post by: Traveler on December 11, 2019, 11:36:14 AM