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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Rob52240 on June 02, 2010, 05:39:59 AM
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I'm starting a list for all the idiots who attacked the memorial flight last night.
1. Trooper2
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i understand how badly people wish to call out the flyers who gave no respect to the Memorial flight. Trust me, i truly want to also. but you cannot really say the names without violating forum rules... the people know who they are and getting angry at them will not change their attitudes to it. Be happy that the Bishops had enough respect to empty bays and guns before the flight so as to not be tempted to kill anyone also and make the memorial flight become a furball
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I know it a Business...
But I think the people that did it (provided they knew what was going on) should be banned for life!
Just my 2 cents
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Think you should have held it the TA.
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I know it a Business...
But I think the people that did it (provided they knew what was going on) should be banned for life!
Just my 2 cents
It was impossible to not know what was going on. Text buffer was full of <S> VEGA's as well as the memorial flight's location being called out on 200.
8-10 P-51's parked alongside the runway, wing tip to wing tip, all got vulched by him in a 152.
Not cool.
I hope the rest of WoT deal with this properly.
:salute VEGA
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No respect what so ever.
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The Special Events Arena is available for use for anyone who wishes to pay their respects in this manner. Please contact a member of the events team to discuss your requirements for any future memorial flights, we'd be more than happy to help.
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No respect what so ever.
Scenario 1, I come in to an arena full of people flying or parked up on ground i say "hello chaps whats goin on"..hey presto i now know ...the correct way to behave :aok
Scenario 2, I come in to an arena take off see parked planes lined up nice and neatly i ignore all text buffer chat and vulch the bloody lot.... :furious.......unfortunately this is the mentality of an awful lot of players in aces nowadays who are more interested in getting the "score" rather than the "kill" ther is a huge difference, I dont fly so much in the MA at the present time but will be more often as it seems no longer can you get a good old punch up in the DA anymore again its full of "scoretards" hehe i made that word up i like it .
There are a few people that i have been lucky enough to kill or be killed by(mostly killed by hehe) that have been both "good sticks" and Honourable yes i get laughed at all the time when mentioning the word honour and yes i will say something to the idiot who picks me after flying past 5 of my squadmates to get me, I am disgusted by those people who did not bother to look or just did not care and opened fire during last nights mark of respect for an Exceptional pilot and a thoroughly nice person.
But unfortunately unless the do get a seriously long ban from the game then nothing we say will make a difference to a person like that...i salute all those who know me and understand what im about, to the rest of you i refuse to stoop to your level and have nothing more to say....Merlin out :salute VEGA
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i understand how badly people wish to call out the flyers who gave no respect to the Memorial flight. Trust me, i truly want to also. but you cannot really say the names without violating forum rules... the people know who they are and getting angry at them will not change their attitudes to it. Be happy that the Bishops had enough respect to empty bays and guns before the flight so as to not be tempted to kill anyone also and make the memorial flight become a furball
THIS
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It's a big world, folks, full of people of shallow & selfish character. Like ol' Johnny Cash says, "Sooner or later, God's gonna cut ya' down". Rest comfortably knowing that inevitable fact.
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I attacked that huge bomber mission. All due respect to your fallen friend, but for us that didnt know him and couldnt figure out WTF was going on by the idoits writing on 200, it was attack or be attacked.
:salute your fallin friend
<Finger> to all the turds who flame people for attacking that mission.
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couldnt figure out WTF was going on
I call B.S. It was posted here. It was posted there (in game). Not that difficult. <RD> JunkyII. ;)
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I attacked that huge bomber mission. All due respect to your fallen friend, but for us that didnt know him and couldnt figure out WTF was going on by the idoits writing on 200, it was attack or be attacked.
:salute your fallin friend
<Finger> to all the turds who flame people for attacking that mission.
wow....just.....wow
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I attacked that huge bomber mission. All due respect to your fallen friend, but for us that didnt know him and couldnt figure out WTF was going on by the idoits writing on 200, it was attack or be attacked.
:salute your fallin friend
<Finger> to all the turds who flame people for attacking that mission.
It wasn't a mission you blithering idiot, it was a Memorial Flight to show respect for a fallen comrade. Your claimed ignorance means nothing. Your infantile behavior, however, speaks volumes...
<Salute> Vega. RIP
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Well sorry I grew up in a place where we dont accuse someone of being guilty unless proven guilty. And the god I believe in forgives for honest mistakes.
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lol this thread reminds me of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJVolaC8pw
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It will happen every time!I was in one during AW,and the guy behind me,in the flight shot me,an "A" of course.I asked him why he did it.He said he just couldn't stand a "B" being in front of him,and he lost it and had to shoot. You just can't get a arena to do something special like a Memorial Flight w/o some people messing it up it up.
:salute Vega
Dobey
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I actually got close to shooting one of these missions once. I logged in, put on auto and went for a smoke. When I came back I was very close to a huge formation of bombers. As I got vis someone finally said something about the plane approaching the mission to not fire. Read 200 more closely and joined the mission also.
However, if I did not have 200 tuned, someone would have taken some bullets. That was when I was new and had no idea what these missions were. Junky should know better.
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He does know better. His earlier post was bs.
The VERY little respect I had for him is gone.
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It was impossible to not know what was going on.
:salute VEGA
Agreed.
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I dunno...I would think a memorial flight that degenerated into a giant furball would be pretty cool if I was the one being memorialized.
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lol this thread reminds me of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJVolaC8pw
I was just thinking of that, too.
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It was impossible to not know what was going on. Text buffer was full of <S> VEGA's as well as the memorial flight's location being called out on 200.
Not true.
Aces high has many players that have very little, or even no command of the English language. We have many players that are'nt only not tuned to 200, but simply log on, takeoff, go afk and come back to shoot whatever is in front of them without looking at the text chat at all.
I'm not defending anyone deliberately attacking that mission...
But by organizing that event in the MA, on a TT, and flying just overhead A1, the default starting field for everyone on that side is kinda proving the disgusting events I was witnessing yesterday.
It turned out exactly like I predicted. You can't make sure nobody will shoot, and once the bullets start to fly, behaviour goes downhill.
And it did. I saw "vets" in that memorial flight repeatedly typing out stuff like "I hope your mother dies". Truly a way to behave and show some dignity & respect that someone would expect. And don't come with "but they did it first!"
We had some great services like that in SEA in the past, with a huge turnout. All kinds of trouble are very easy to avoid there. You have an arena message, and you have mods that can easily remove anyone causing trouble without causing a stir.
Doing this kind of things in a battle hotspot like V2-A1 is just asking for that kind of trouble. That may be sad, but that's the way it is, and a lot of guys should have known better.
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I attacked that huge bomber mission. All due respect to your fallen friend, but for us that didnt know him and couldnt figure out WTF was going on by the idoits writing on 200, it was attack or be attacked.
:salute your fallin friend
<Finger> to all the turds who flame people for attacking that mission.
Junky and others, from what I gathered, the mission you attacked was NOT the memorial flight, but a large raid of rooks that bombed the Knight strat about an hour before the memorial flight was to take place. Some D-bags on the rook side, in the mission apparently, called it out as the memorial flight and said "don't attack us" and then others apparently 'in the know' came on immediately and said "no, that is NOT the memorial flight, it does not start for another hour." I saw you call out on 200 that you and the POTW were going after it. I was in the process of climbing to check it out as well.
I'll say right now you guys in that rook mission who tried to use the memorial flight as your "cover" are no less trash than the couple guys who shot up the real memorial flight. Shame on you.
I didn't know for sure one way or the other if the mission in question was or was not the memorial flight until I climbed to about 25K and got within icon range, and was immediately jumped by 2 P-47's, a P-51, and a F4U-4. So I feel pretty confident in my assessment that the Rook mission you attacked was NOT the memorial flight, Junky, not unless their intention was to bomb the Knight strat and shoot down any Knights who came near as part of the memorial.
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The Pigs lost a good friend a year and half ago. We held a private memorial flight/21 gun salute in the TA. Amazingly, no one shot at us or interrupted... :headscratch: This event should never have been held in the main arenas gentlemen. My .02 cents.
My sincerest condolences again to Vega's family, friends, squaddies.
:salute
Way
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I was in the flight and the people who attacked it were well within range of there co-country mates which I'm sure were telling them on range not to shoot on the flight, yet they shot anyway. I have the utmost respect for the Rooks and Knights that honored the flights intent, as for the few idiots, well they are immature punks in my opinion.
As far as having the event in the MA, well Vega flew his missions in the MA and his Squad and his wife believed that it was the proper place for the memorial flight and the was enough for me and most of AH community with a few exceptions.
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The MA was the perfect venue. <S> to all who participated: Rooks, Knights, and Bish. Two bad apples did not ruin the whole barrel in this case.
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I think Lusche has the right of it. If a person was only barely aware that the memorial was taking place, it would be quite possible for someone not heavily involved in it to accidentally open up on the wrong thing if the wrong sequence of events happened. I would've personally done it in an SEA if people wanted to ensure that there'd be no interference. The vast majority don't read the forums. Many don't tune 200. Many don't really even look at the text buffer during the course of their evening. Just because those of us who do read the forums and constantly monitor channels are in the know doesn't mean everybody else is. English is also not a primary language for many.
I personally chose to log last night before it happened to avoid the possibility that I might accidentally shoot someone in the memorial down. I was having trouble putting together in my head where all of the flights to avoid were going to be, so I figured a bit of downtime would be preferable to interfering with something like that. I didn't know him at all, but :salute Vega. Loss of life diminishes us all.
The deliberate attackers, if there were any, I have no respect for. I don't care to know or to have it made known who they are publically, but that's low, protesting someone's funeral low. Stealing from charity low.
Wiley.
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I wasn't able to get in last night..... It would have been only the third time in my AH history a ceasefire would have been called.
The 1st time was a Rook 190 over my Bish vBase, who managed to take out 2 sets of Knit Lancs and a silly Spitty. He then flew close enough to us, we saw him roll his wings back and forth (Universal Sign)...... But I was a Newb and had to be yelled at about firing......We (I) ceased fire and let him give us a flyby before he RTB'd.
The 2nd time, deep in BishLand, some dirty rotten scoundrel had pummeled several of my brothers in a Pony. He didn't see me. But my aim wasn't so great and I flew right by. We danced for a bit, a great stick this man, far better than I. With a lucky pass I took half of his wing off, then on 200 explained how he was safe since I was out of ammo, as was he..... We kept that conversation going and I found myself flying with his broken craft along the "danger zone." Managed to call off the first two guys, but sadly the last one to come in was a Newb and didn't care what I said. But at least for a little while, there was honor among enemies.
THIS 3rd almost time....................... I'm surprised it wasn't a Newb.
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Why so serious?
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There were only a few cheapjacks trying to get some free kills over the 90 or so minutes the whole thing took, so on a whole the memorial flight we quite successful. <<S>> to all who participated.
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Has anybody you have ever been a friend of passed away? Or maybe died in the line of duty? What about your parents? Now what if you wanted everybody to get together for a moment to honor the fallen.......... Do I have to go on?
Why so serious?
Why so thick headed?
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I'm starting a list for all the idiots who attacked the memorial flight last night.
1. Trooper2
#1 We had no idea it was a memorial flight at first...there was like 60 B-17s going to our HQ.
#2 I didnt attack so shhh
#3 Why would you hold a memorial flight in an arena like that, so it in TA, or SEA
:salute to those we lost.
-BigBOBCH
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Has anybody you have ever been a friend of passed away? Or maybe died in the line of duty? What about your parents? Now what if you wanted everybody to get together for a moment to honor the fallen.......... Do I have to go on?
Why so thick headed?
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you guys act like a bunch of WoW kids haha
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:rolleyes:
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I know Lusche. Is there a pie chart for this one?
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This kind of thing has happened in every memorial flight I've ever seen. Sadly, it won't stop. Someone will always have an excuse, be it valid in their eyes or not. Seeing that these flights are special events, it only makes since to have these things held in the special events arena.
There's just too many players in the main arenas. To try and stop a handful of them from ruining such things is just unrealistic.
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That youtube vid sunfan1121 posted was pretty hilarious if I may say so!!!
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you guys act like a bunch of WoW kids haha
EDIT: And uptown does speak the truth. I remember 2 other Mem's that got shot up and it was a never ending argument the rest of the night.
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The important thing isn't what happened by a few, it's what happened by many. Remember last night for the tribute, not the tribulation.
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you guys act like a bunch of WoW kids haha
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You make a very valid point!!!
The important thing isn't what happened by a few, it's what happened by many. Remember last night for the tribute, not the tribulation.
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He does know better. His earlier post was bs.
The VERY little respect I had for him is gone.
I don't need your respect, from what I understand it wasn't the memorial flight I attacked but it was rooks saying it was, point your fat fingers at them when you point at the people who attacked your mission
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are you a rook? and what's your call sign on the game?
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Classic example of a sweet notion leading to silly expectations. Like so many other things in life.
My condolences to Vega's friends and family. I am confident he was more than just an AH player. Much more.
:airplane:
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I was wondering what big of a dar that was growing near A1. Didn't have balls to go fly over and see it myself so I left it be. :bolt:
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I was defending a bish base from a knit mission just to the southeast of the m flight. I saw this huge bloob of yellow heading south and wondered where the hell are they going? enemy was north. As the bloob passed into a bish radar ring red dots appeared and i thought bombers and 163's. Still that many returning from a mission seemed wrong so I turned on 200, (i allmost never tune 200 ) It took about 3 miniutes to figure out what it was. Honestly I cannot see how anyone could have takin the time to close with that formation and not have known what it was by the time they pulled the trigger. If the vega memorial flight folks had called for a memorial furball over tank town then shooting would have been the right thing to do, but they didn't " damn poor show" for those who did pull the trigger.
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no more whining please! haha why so serious!?!?
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I'll bet VEGA is having a good chuckle from on-high about this....I know I would if I were him.
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I'll bet VEGA is having a good chuckle from on-high about this....I know I would if I were him.
Ditto
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I thought 99.9% of the ones involved with the flight was a class act. I flew 47N's in 4 man formations and had Knit 51's and 47's in formation with us as close as 200 for several sectors without incident.
It was good to see a community come together for a cause, a purpose, for a fellow human being that enjoyed this game as much as we all do to show the restraint and respect for that event in his honor.
Doing something that he would have enjoyed and to have shared that with everyone was priceless, I hope that this brought some comfort for his Wife and Family to know that so many respected him as a fellow human being and a well known AH pilot, he will surely be missed.
To the ignorant and thoughtless children that did behave the way they did, I hope you eventually find it in yourself what this really meant to some others besides yourself and pray that your parents have the ability to teach you better than they have to this point about having some respect for others, I suspect the Apple does not fall far from the tree.
A life lesson you have failed to comprehend thus far.
Mark my words kiddies, If you don't "get it" yet, or "understand" it yet, you will inevitably run into someone one day that will gladly teach you this invaluable life lesson the hard way.
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Damn, I left again just as the drama happens :(
#1 hold it it special events or TA, it was not wise to do it in the MA.
#2 OMG showing respect thru a video game is hardly honor and certainly takes very little effort
#3 If it was respect you wanted to show, buy a plane ticket and go to the mans funeral proper like! sitting at a computer desk drinkin whiskey and eatin cheetos is hardly true respect and honoring :aok
Personaly I didn't know him as I would say most of the population also didn't know him.
For me honoring one who passed means HONORING that pesons LIFE not so much the mourning of their passing.
This should have been private for the folks who were really touched by this persons life!!
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JunkyII is a TARD and should be GAYng raped for the next year :aok :bolt:
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I don't need your respect, from what I understand it wasn't the memorial flight I attacked but it was rooks saying it was, point your fat fingers at them when you point at the people who attacked your mission
Well, then I apologize. I was just responding to your earlier post.
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Damn, I left again just as the drama happens :(
#1 hold it it special events or TA, it was not wise to do it in the MA.
#2 OMG showing respect thru a video game is hardly honor and certainly takes very little effort
#3 If it was respect you wanted to show, buy a plane ticket and go to the mans funeral proper like! sitting at a computer desk drinkin whiskey and eatin cheetos is hardly true respect and honoring :aok
Personaly I didn't know him as I would say most of the population also didn't know him.
For me honoring one who passed means HONORING that pesons LIFE not so much the mourning of their passing.
This should have been private for the folks who were really touched by this persons life!!
+1 this is a game, why so serious?
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Damn, I left again just as the drama happens :(
#1 hold it in special events or TA, it was not wise to do it in the MA.
#2 OMG showing respect thru a video game is hardly honor and certainly takes very little effort
#3 If it was respect you wanted to show, buy a plane ticket and go to the mans funeral proper like! sitting at a computer desk drinkin whiskey and eatin cheetos is hardly true respect and honoring :aok
Personaly I didn't know him as I would say most of the population also didn't know him.
For me honoring one who passed means HONORING that pesons LIFE not so much the mourning of their passing.
This should have been private for the folks who were really touched by this persons life!!
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Damn, I left again just as the drama happens :(
#1 hold it it special events or TA, it was not wise to do it in the MA.
#2 OMG showing respect thru a video game is hardly honor and certainly takes very little effort
#3 If it was respect you wanted to show, buy a plane ticket and go to the mans funeral proper like! sitting at a computer desk drinkin whiskey and eatin cheetos is hardly true respect and honoring :aok
Personaly I didn't know him as I would say most of the population also didn't know him.
For me honoring one who passed means HONORING that pesons LIFE not so much the mourning of their passing.
This should have been private for the folks who were really touched by this persons life!!
I'm not buying it. I think you just wanted to take a cheap shot at people who flew in the memorial. at least man up to that....
and oh by the way.. who the **** are you to tell hundreds of people here how they should properly mourn someone's passing?
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I'm sure he is a paying subscriber who thinks who are you to tell him how to fly in the MA on TT of all days.
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I'm sure he is a paying subscriber who thinks who are you to tell him how to fly in the MA on TT of all days.
Pot:Kettle:Black
I call Bull**** on you as well, kid...
you apparently attacked some of the planes in the flight..and now you and you pal are doing here as well. there's much more at play behind your contempt than you may be willing to admit to yourself.
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You forgot to say Why so serious? (like in your other 14 posts)
I'm sure he is a paying subscriber who thinks who are you to tell him how to fly in the MA on TT of all days.
EDIT: And shreck, could you possible imagine extra people at a funeral? I can't... It would be more of a circus. Keep real life away from this world is an important aspect of our sanity. :D
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You forgot to say Why so serious? (like in your other 13 posts)
lest we forget his "haha" comments here in the thread...and on channel 200 last night, during a memorial flight about a members passing.
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having a big memorial flight in a main arena on a busy evening is like putting out a fly strip next to a heap of festering garbage. You have got to expect that you are going to get some stuck flys. (No insult intended)
Schedule memorial displays for the SEA or just have fun with it in the MA and expect to get hassled.
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that's not even the issue anymore though..these punks lowered the bar even further by coming into this thread and laughing about it.
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Pot:Kettle:Black
I call Bull**** on you as well, kid...
you apparently attacked some of the planes in the flight..and now you and you pal are doing here as well. there's much more at play behind your contempt that you may be willing to admit to yourself.
HAHA "kid". No I did not attack any planes. Yet I find this all very amusing. Perhaps I should apologize for NOT thinking this is anything more than just a game. Haha, I don't think so!!! Why so serious?!?!?1 :)
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HAHA "kid". No I did not attack any planes. Yet I find this all very amusing. Perhaps I should apologize for NOT thinking this is anything more than just a game. Haha, I don't think so!!! Why so serious?!?!?1 :)
your constant "haha" is your tell.
if you're not physically a kid..you most certainly are emotionally... but I'm sure you and the family already know that, right tina?
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MENTAL NOTE: Do not play cards with ZetaNine, it's all he thinks about! :cheers:
your constant "haha" is your tell.
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Was that a burn?
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I came on late and saw a huge blob over a Rook base. I figured it was just a big horde so I upped a plane and started for it. It was talking to a squaddie who informed me what was going on. If not for him I probably would have been ignoring the <S> Vega's and attacked. It can happen...if it had been a friday and I was drunk...good Lord.
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Was that a burn?
surrender noted.
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I had fun flying my 51 amongst friend and foe alike. Was trying to give that poor nit 38 a show :lol
:salute Vega
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Haha you are so jaded... and sooo serious
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... and sooo serious
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JunkyII is a TARD and should be GAYng raped for the next year :aok :bolt:
I totally agree with you on this but not for last night. :D Junky probably attacked the EPIC! :rolleyes: Tuesday Night Rook HQ horde raid.
Interesting taking place around the initial starting time of the Bish DHBG VEGA Memorial flight. If you followed 200 you could probably figured which and where. Tried to get to the Mem flight just kept getting discoed or jumped lol. :rolleyes: As for trooper2 vulching lined aircraft hmmm. I got 1 rook I can now use for bait! ;) Still think SEA would've been a better place.IMO
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Damn, I left again just as the drama happens :(
#1 hold it it special events or TA, it was not wise to do it in the MA.
#2 OMG showing respect thru a video game is hardly honor and certainly takes very little effort
#3 If it was respect you wanted to show, buy a plane ticket and go to the mans funeral proper like! sitting at a computer desk drinkin whiskey and eatin cheetos is hardly true respect and honoring :aok
Personaly I didn't know him as I would say most of the population also didn't know him.
For me honoring one who passed means HONORING that pesons LIFE not so much the mourning of their passing.
This should have been private for the folks who were really touched by this persons life!!
LMFAO
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In my opinion, if this thread continues, it will be remembered more then the memorial flight will be. How about we remember what the flight was for, and not dwell on a couple of guys that took advantage of it. I think jumping in on it was wrong, but the flight was for Vega so why doesn't everyone dwell on that. Lesson, there will always be someone to rain on your parade. Right or wrong, remember what the parade was for and honor them accordingly.
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+1 this is a game, why so serious?
Why do you keep responding to everything with the "why so serious?" line? Lots of us here have flown with each other since the early to mid 1990's and some even longer and we pretty much know them well and have gone through their hard times (divorces,deaths,job losses,births of children, computer breakdowns, and other calamities). We do take memorial flights seriously and just because you are either a blithering idiot or just an uninformed newbie, it's no excuse to continue responding to post with the same old line. I would recommend that you purchase a "clue-Rake", then you might understand just why we are serious.
All the Best...
Jay
PS.. I believe that "NoBaddy" once opened a "Clue-Rake" online store and it may still be in operation.
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Why do you keep responding to everything with the "why so serious?" line? Lots of us here have flown with each other since the early to mid 1990's and some even longer and we pretty much know them well and have gone through their hard times (divorces,deaths,job losses,births of children, computer breakdowns, and other calamities). We do take memorial flights seriously and just because you are either a blithering idiot or just an uninformed newbie, it's no excuse to continue responding to post with the same old line. I would recommend that you purchase a "clue-Rake", then you might understand just why we are serious.
All the Best...
Jay
PS.. I believe that "NoBaddy" once opened a "Clue-Rake" online store and it may still be in operation.
I keep asking because of posts such as this!!! Haha, if they are serious then put them in the SEA as suggested haha
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I don't need your respect, from what I understand it wasn't the memorial flight I attacked but it was rooks saying it was, point your fat fingers at them when you point at the people who attacked your mission
I wasn't there, but if you see a huge group of planes from 3 different countries flying together without any shots being fired, why fire?
Cmon dude.
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I totally agree with you on this but not for last night. :D Junky probably attacked the EPIC! :rolleyes: Tuesday Night Rook HQ horde raid.
Interesting taking place around the initial starting time of the Bish DHBG VEGA Memorial flight. If you followed 200 you could probably figured which and where. Tried to get to the Mem flight just kept getting discoed or jumped lol. :rolleyes: As for trooper2 vulching lined aircraft hmmm. I got 1 rook I can now use for bait! ;) Still think SEA would've been a better place.IMO
Well Junky has been a drama queen of the BBS for ages and he knew full well of the memorial flight. Had it been anyone else that wasn't a constant BBS drama queen, I would have agreed with you but not in this case. :(
All the Best...
Jay
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I wasn't there, but if you see a huge group of planes from 3 different countries flying together without any shots being fired, why fire?
Cmon dude.
I believe he was saying that it wasn't the memorial flight but a flight of those pretending to be it so as to attack headquarters. And that they should be as ashamed as those who attacked the flight for using it as an excuse to go untouched.
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My thoughts are with the grieving families and friends. I would be honored to host any memorial flight anyone would like to hold at any time in the SEA so that it does not get interrupted for any other reason then why it is being held. Keep me in mind and send me a message. I can access the SEA on an off event night with advance notice and work on the details with those who want specifics (missing man formation, gun salute etc.) I just ask that for now the discussion on those who were there with other intentions stop. They have had enough "press" and IMHO will feed off any more attention. I am sure it is not what I would want to read if it were my family member or friend and I will try to watch for memorial flights and offer the SEA as long as I have enough notice so let's keep the memory going of our fallen friend and the memorial in his honor.
:salute VEGA RIP
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I disagree on taking it to the TA. A memorial flight for someone should be a decent reminder to anyone in the MA, that there are far more serious things in life then anything to do with cartoon airplanes. Those that took the time to plan and participate in such a memorial flight seem to understand this.
Will there be folks who don't understand it and whose cartoon egos believe blowing up pixels is more important? Sure.
Thankfully it sounds like the majority of folks respected the memorial flight for what it was.
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I believe he was saying that it wasn't the memorial flight but a flight of those pretending to be it so as to attack headquarters. And that they should be as ashamed as those who attacked the flight for using it as an excuse to go untouched.
I can see what he means. Now that is even worse.
I am still quite bothered by trooper2.
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I think the MA was a fine place for it, but as those who didn't read my earlier post, there will be those that go after it anyway. Seeing the numbers involved it seems that it went very well and honorable having 3 countries flying together. It could have been more but only having a couple attack, I can't say that the flight wasn't a success.
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It simply wouldn't mean the same thing in SEA or TA or DA.................... Get it?
MA is the game, the game is where Vega flew, the game is where the flight took place. It all falls into line that way.
ANd let me tell you about SERIOUS for a second..... Vega & the Dickweeds rarely used auto-pilot. Now that is serious!!!
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Vega would have been honored to have his cartoon airplane memorial flight attacked by cartoon renegades lol. Now wouldn't he :)
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I'm not buying it. I think you just wanted to take a cheap shot at people who flew in the memorial. at least man up to that....
and oh by the way.. who the **** are you to tell hundreds of people here how they should properly mourn someone's passing?
DUUUUUDE!
RELAX, take a midol! I'm not "cheap-shotting" anyone. I see it like this, someone passes across town and all the folks across town want to the pressesion to got thru everyones neighborhood and yard to show respect yet no-one but "across towners" know who the crap it is! Now the "across towners" get all upset cause everyone isn't so keen on this parade going thru their neighborhood and yards!
As I said if you have a great respect for this spirit then go to the funeral and HONOR your relationship and memories properly, or at the minimum get all the folks who have been affected and do something privately.
No where did I say I was taking "cheap-shots" I am just speaking truth!
Do you honor everyone who dies in your R/L community? I think not! The AH community is just another diverse community of peeps all with their priorities and responsibilities that may not be in alignment with yours! sorry but that is how I see it!
It is truely sad for his family though!! Maybe a better way to honor him is to do something for his family, but that may take actual effort :aok
:salute
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Vega would have been honored to have his cartoon airplane memorial flight attacked by cartoon renegades lol. Now wouldn't he :)
Well maybe not have felt honored but I bet he would have had a chuckle, and after all that is what really matters isn't it? :cheers:
He who can laugh at death is the true winner! ;)
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I don't really see the point of this post other than to continue bad feelings.
Vega is gone, and a bunch of you honored his passing, the rest is unnecessary.
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I am in no way trying to argue with you shreck!!! But I probably know more dead people than most people do and so I always try to at least spend a few hours thinking about good ole days. That does not include some neighbor I barely know however. So either you worded the question carefully, or you may not be thinking about it right.
Do you honor everyone who dies in your R/L community?
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JunkyII is a TARD and should be GAYng raped for the next year :aok :bolt:
lol I'm gunna start a thread about this...
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Organizing this thing in the MA was a stupid idea to begin with. :headscratch:
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The people in the mission I attacked were Claim Jumpers....
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In any case, if you were JunkyI it wouldn't have been a problem. :lol
The people in the mission I attacked were Claim Jumpers....
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The people in the mission I attacked were Claim Jumpers....
So They used the mission to HQ and said it was the bomber formation? Gotcha...how dweebish.
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The people in the mission I attacked were Claim Jumpers....
Yes it would've been a nice gesture to not run the stupid, err epic rook hq raid lastnite. Rather instead organizing with the Vega flight. :old:
Rebuttal: Whateva whateva, I do what I want whateva neernerrr lulululu. :neener:
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It was understood from the moment the Memorial launched that there would be 'somebody' that attacked the flight. No one returned fire so it was pretty obvious that if someone made more than one attack they knew what was happening... but so what?
The MA is the ONLY place to hold memorial flights and the 'DO NOT ENGAGE' rule for the flight is the only way to do these memorials. The only thing that could be even more beautiful is if there was a common VOX transmission calling the deceased to action. It is always the last call that no one can answer.
:salute VEGA
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The MA is the ONLY place to hold memorial flights
So the great 68KO memorial was held in the wrong arena?
Nonsense.
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So the great 68KO memorial was held in the wrong arena?
Nonsense.
The Snailman knows :aok
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I say that because there are a lot of people that dont read the BBS and in the MA even if the flight has already started the broadcast of the flights position and so on can bring more and more people in to join.
Also it seems so very appropriate to have aircraft that are participating remove themselves from action indicating their thoughts are upon the lost member of the community and not upon making a perfect film (although that can be nice too).
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it was attack or be attacked.
Fibber.
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I was in said EPIC mission for the first leg of the flight but landed to attend the memorial. I don't recall anyone claiming to be the memorial flight, but then again I only flew a couple of sectors with them. One of my squaddies was with them the entire flight though and I'm interested to hear his take on things.
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This was held in the Main Arenas?
I thought most are held in the TA or Special Arenas so this type thing does not happen.
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I was in said EPIC mission for the first leg of the flight but landed to attend the memorial. I don't recall anyone claiming to be the memorial flight, but then again I only flew a couple of sectors with them. One of my squaddies was with them the entire flight though and I'm interested to hear his take on things.
I flew in Swoops' Epic mission, lift to landing and heard no such claim at anytime...
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I have a feeling that it was just confusion. I'd rather give the benefit of the doubt than jump to conclusions.
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I personally thought it went well. 2 or 3 idiots with 500+ people online is way less than I gave AH credit for. We came, we flew, we remembered and honored a great friend and pilot. Those guys barely scratched the surface of the memorial. I agree with Phan, that anything further is unnecessary.
As for the rash things said on 200, I agree that some were well over the line. Although I know that several of the people who said such things knew Vega in RL very well. It was an emotionally charged situation and sometimes even the best of people have a hard time acting with class when these things happen. I just hope they are somewhat remorseful.
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Next TT in honor of VEGA lets do the same thing. But this time honor him by all three sides upping to 20k and enMass meet at an agreed time over the center of the map and have the biggest no holds barred Furball in the history of the game. We can call it VEGA's Rumble.
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MA is the place to hold these memorial flights, I have been in one so far, sadly I did not make last nights, I did not know Vega, but I would have honored this memorial the same way I did the last one I was in, Flying along side a huge crowd of nme cons, with out a single bullet fired. I will remember that Memorial flight for a very long time.
we all auger'd into the ground at the end it was awesome.
those that attacked this one, if they knew it was a memorial flight they should be slapped by every one who was in it.
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I am in no way trying to argue with you shreck!!! But I probably know more dead people than most people do and so I always try to at least spend a few hours thinking about good ole days. That does not include some neighbor I barely know however. So either you worded the question carefully, or you may not be thinking about it right.
Well I agree for the most part. Knowing more dead people than most others is a rather large and weird statement but, so be it! Ofcourse the folks that you've known should be remembered and they're lives reflected upon and embraced, but everyone else doesn't know who you've known and thus they have no memories of them so why drag they're wake thru everyone elses reality is all I meant to say!
Honor, caring and respect would be better served IF those that knew him gathered some funds to relieve the surviving family members of the additional financial stress they will encounter, this is always the best way to show care from affar! IMO
Now IF I knew this man then I may think totally different, I doubt it but maybe. That I will freely admit.
:cheers: :salute
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The problem with having these in the MA's, is no refs. There was one on the Knight side that was repeatedly told that this was a memorial flight and do not attack on range, and attacked anyway. Unfortunately no powers in the MA's so I couldn't make him watch tv, but I really wanted too. All in all I think it went fairly well, and actually didn't turn out to be as big of a mess as I predicted it could become. I do believe that most, if not all, that attacked the actual memorial flight were told on range by their own countrymen what the deal was. I know on the Knight side over A1 everyone was told on range what was going on.
:salute
BigRat
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I don't really see the point of this post other than to continue bad feelings.
Vega is gone, and a bunch of you honored his passing, the rest is unnecessary.
:aok I have to agree with you Rino :aok. Vega would not have wanted everyone arguing like this. I flew with Vega and the other Dickweeds on here, off and on for 9 years. Vega was a very, very respectful man and pilot (both in real and in game). I have a lot of respect for Vega and the Dickweed Heavy Bomber Group. Now put yourselves in his shoes. Would he have wanted this in the forums??? Would his wife appreciate this??? Would the Dickweed Heavy Bomber Group appreciate this??? I don't think so..........THINK ABOUT IT!!!! Have some respect for his family, friends, and squaddies. They not only lost their C.O., but their close friend and family member.
:salute Vega
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I also thought it went well and I enjoyed every minute of it. Me and several squad mates all upped B-17's or 24's and joined up. For a memorial flight in the MA it went a lot better than I expected. I only had one qualm last night and that was getting shot down by Ernst21 ( :furious :mad:). I agree with Big Rat. There was to my knowledge only one player on the Knight side who attacked the flight even though he was warned over vox and the text buffer about 30 times. I must say that I felt bad to be on the same side as someone who would have the gall to land his kills too. All in all it was a very fun and enjoyable, though somber experience.
:salute to Vega and and prayers for his family and friends sent.
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:salute Won't argue anything you said my Brotha!!!
Well I agree for the most part. Knowing more dead people than most others is a rather large and weird statement but, so be it! Ofcourse the folks that you've known should be remembered and they're lives reflected upon and embraced, but everyone else doesn't know who you've known and thus they have no memories of them so why drag they're wake thru everyone elses reality is all I meant to say!
Honor, caring and respect would be better served IF those that knew him gathered some funds to relieve the surviving family members of the additional financial stress they will encounter, this is always the best way to show care from affar! IMO
Now IF I knew this man then I may think totally different, I doubt it but maybe. That I will freely admit.
:cheers: :salute
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Well when you see a huge formation - with pilots from all three countries - and no one is opening fire on each other...i mean come on...you'd have to be severely retarded, to the point of near incapacitation, to not realize something was going on....and when you get behind 4 sets of bombers in a form, shoot all of them down and realize no one has opened up on you...i mean...really....anyone who says they didn't know are full of it.
But all in all, it was a GREAT tribute that went very well. All 3 countries came together as a whole in memory of a leader, a foe, teacher and friend. I know that Vega would have been proud of everyone who took part, and would have been extremely happy with us Dickweeds for not opening up on the losers. He also would put a price on their heads ;)
<S> VEGA
MarineUS
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Didn't that ultra melon trooper2 come in and vulch 8 guys?
Bet he felt mighty proud of that one. Guy sucks in the MA.
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1:spikes, ever think trooper may be a little kid around 11 or even less? Listen, theres explanations for things.
2:this thread freaking NEEDS TO STOP. YES people shot at all of us, NO we never fought back out of respect for Vega
(by the way, his wife flew with the Dickweeds in one of the bombers...I'm pretty sure if family is involved then the flight was a perfect way to honor the man...)
3:people will be jerks or completely stupid. you gotta deal with it, ignore what happened and be thankful the flight went the way it did.
4:I am PROUD of how most of us acted in that flight. I was the fighter lead, we flew WITH other enemy fighters. some of us even winged with a 262 who joined us in a 4 person V. i saw 3 knight P51Ds 2 rook P51s and 2 Bish P51s wing in a formation and i saw 4 knight 109 Fs (1 was a G) flying a perfect diamond making flybys on the formation. Respect the people who gave respect. IGNORE the ones who didnt give respect because they either did it for attention, perks, score, fun, or they are either too childish (or a child), or could not speak english and saw what was going on as a bomber run. For most of the explanations for their actions they will not change their attitude no matter how you flame them...
Just deal with it, move on, and deal with life...
<S> to Vega and all who truly knew him. I wish I had... This was for them, not for all of us in game pilots who barely knew him unlike the Dickweeds and others.
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Man, some of those formations were unreal keeping tight through their passes. It was definately a sight to behold.
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Far less shooting than I had anticipated, there was little doubt that there would be a few that didn't know or didn't care.
That being said;
During the flight I winged with my squaddies for a while, a Knight for a bit, and Rook for short time, I thought it was awesome. To look around at hundreds upon hundreds of red and green cons, and know that all these people took the time to join up to show respect for someone a lot of them didn't even know made me feel good about this community. And admit it or not it's the community that keeps a very large number of us coming back, if not we would disable chat and not visit the BBS. I thought it was a wonderful tribute to a person who obviously enjoyed this game and community enough to keep him here for over a decade.
<S> Vega
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Didn't that ultra melon trooper2 come in and vulch 8 guys?
Bet he felt mighty proud of that one. Guy sucks in the MA.
If you did not want shot at or vulched, the flight should have been in the SEA or the TA. Because in the MA I view any RED icon as FAIR GAME. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, also you don't pay my subscription, so I will play the game the way that I want to.
Also <S> VEGA. My Condolences for his family.
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I'm glad I wasn't flying.
I only read selected posts on the BBs, not every one. I knew there was something going on regarding a memorial but didn't have a clue where or when it would be.
Once in the arenas I largely ignore 200 and the entire text buffer in general unless I've just killed someone, been killed by someone or landed kills so I'd likely never have picked up on 200 chatter.
I would NEVER have expected anyone flying a memorial in the MA's. That's just a STUPID idea. Sorry for being blunt.
I could have easily seen myself stumbling into this unwittingly. Fortunately I didn't.
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I disagree on taking it to the TA. A memorial flight for someone should be a decent reminder to anyone in the MA, that there are far more serious things in life then anything to do with cartoon airplanes. Those that took the time to plan and participate in such a memorial flight seem to understand this.
Will there be folks who don't understand it and whose cartoon egos believe blowing up pixels is more important? Sure.
Thankfully it sounds like the majority of folks respected the memorial flight for what it was.
QFT
Obituaries, funeral processions, grave sites, memorials etc are all done publicly to honor those who have passed....the MA is our public arena...
idiots who interrupt these events are attention seeking immature fools who want the attention taken away from the fallen and redirected on themselves...
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Let us not forget what this was all about. The fact that two kids are getting this much attention is really overshadowing the entire point of the mission.
<S> VEGA, the Mission was a huge success.
Also, someone mentioned this was just a game, remember;
The planes are fake, the people are real.
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c'mon people. Stop feeding the trolls & shades.
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I'm glad I wasn't flying.
It would have been really obvious with red and green icons flying just yards from each other and zero tracers. Doesnt matter either way... our boys understood not to fire even when fired upon. It is inevitable that someone would either not put it together or would not get the message or (as always theres one) just ignore everyone. I do not believe it spoiled the memorial and I dont think any more should be said about it.
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If you did not want shot at or vulched, the flight should have been in the SEA or the TA. Because in the MA I view any RED icon as FAIR GAME. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, also you don't pay my subscription, so I will play the game the way that I want to.
Also <S> VEGA. My Condolences for his family.
The ultra melon I presume?
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Of course we absolutely knew there would be shots fired.
We wanted the most people available to pay respect, and that is what I remember about the mission. If I had a penny for every display of respect towards a fallen AH'er I would be rich.
Yes it happened. I do want to believe that the someone that did it simply didn't know any better.
I won't remember those parts of the mission.
I will remember......
All the DHBG almost choking up when DNR911 (His widow and long time AH'er herself) announced she was online and in Papafox's airplane.
The Bish lining up on our first overflights followed by all the <S>'s thrown out.
Approaching the first NME base and everyone instinctively calling out the cons only to have them wing up and fly with us. Then more, and more, and more, till the sky was filled with as many red icons as green and 99% of the game showing respect.
Then flying over the second NME base and having two different NME red icons all in one big furball. My wife next to me grabbing Kleenex after Kleenex at the sheer output of respect.
NME 262's and 234's completely vulnerable and flying WITHIN the ranks............easy pickings....and no shots fired.
I and others were angry at the shots fired, but like we said we knew it would happen and it was less than expected.
Those shots will be forgotten.
The honor and respect given by all who attended was overwhelming.
I've personally known Vega for over a decade. He is the one who got me into AH. He was a friend.
I know he was watching and didn't mind.
Remember the actions of the hundreds who were there and not the bad ones that were expected and could have been accidental.
SERIOUSLY FOLKS
<S><S><S><S><S><S><S> to all who have shown their respects here and in the flight.
Tapakeg
DHBG
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i understand how badly people wish to call out the flyers who gave no respect to the Memorial flight. Trust me, i truly want to also. but you cannot really say the names without violating forum rules... the people know who they are and getting angry at them will not change their attitudes to it. Be happy that the Bishops had enough respect to empty bays and guns before the flight so as to not be tempted to kill anyone also and make the memorial flight become a furball
Well said, but just FYI, DHBG had full ammo on-board every aircraft, we just didn't shoot back (and neither did our Escorts, mighty <S> to them for that also)
Salute
Steely
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Well sorry I grew up in a place where we dont accuse someone of being guilty unless proven guilty. And the god I believe in forgives for honest mistakes.
right Emilio,
your innocent..... :neener:
edit cause i had too.
that is all
froger
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Next TT in honor of VEGA lets do the same thing. But this time honor him by all three sides upping to 20k and enMass meet at an agreed time over the center of the map and have the biggest no holds barred Furball in the history of the game. We can call it VEGA's Rumble.
This would be fun :aok
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really folks look at what your doing to what may be the last post that may contain Vega's name. tarnished.
so you held the flight in the MAIN ARENA yes not the smartest thing to do.
best thing to do is to hold it in the SEA.
the TA will not handle mass number of players.
the CM's will be more than happy to set it up for you and hang out for the duration of the event. just to make sure no unwanted company screws things up.
DA is not the place for a memorial flight, lots of newbs and dweebs fly there.
in all seriousness stop whining and b|tching here.
tapakeg made the best post i read on here <S> tapakeg.
Vega is gone sad thing to have happen great guy. its time to move on and do what he would have wanted the DHBG to do and that's to move on and keep going like he would want it to.
Salute to DNR911 and your Family miss, may god be with you in this time of sorrow.
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Poorest taste imaginable
I think it was the words of EG2Hawk that should be brought here "Days like today, there are no sides"
And on the furball Idea, I would think we should all fly VEGA's fave plane in a gigantic furball.
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I need a Dickweed to confirm but, it would be pretty crazy seeing 50 Bish, 50 Rook & 50 Knight B25H at 20k furballing.
And on the furball Idea, I would think we should all fly VEGA's fave plane in a gigantic furball.
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Maybe a way to give something in this "venue" would be for ALL to up 262s fly to the same location and cerinoniously AUGER all those perks in HONOR of the fallen! At least in a strange AH way you would be sacrificing something "in rememberence" :aok Just a thought :cheers:
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I auger them anyways, it would be nice to have a reason to do so!!! :aok +1
Maybe a way to give something in this "venue" would be for ALL to up 262s fly to the same location and cerinoniously AUGER all those perks in HONOR of the fallen! At least in a strange AH way you would be sacrificing something "in rememberence" :aok Just a thought :cheers:
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I was in said EPIC mission for the first leg of the flight but landed to attend the memorial. I don't recall anyone claiming to be the memorial flight, but then again I only flew a couple of sectors with them. One of my squaddies was with them the entire flight though and I'm interested to hear his take on things.
I flew the epic mission the whole flight and never once did I hear or see anyone using the memorial flight as cover either. Have to call B.S. on anyone that has used that as and excuse to attack the memorial flight.
And the epic mission was a strat run, not and HQ run.
<S> Vega
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At the end of the day, this kinda stuff shouldn't really be held in the MA.
1. It's the MA people are paying to play and kill other players regardless of circumstance
It doesn't matter what you say to people about whats going on where it's going on, people will still kill other players if given the chance, all of it could have been avoided by holding it in the TA. I am pretty sure those who wanted to remember and pay their respects would have turned up.
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connery has it right.
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I hate it was attacked but, if youre going to do something like that in the MA, expect those kind of things. It should have been in the TA or SEA like all the others in the past. The average IQ in the MA is probably around 30. Even if it was posted on 200 i wouldnt expect 70% of the people in there to understand what the words meant. There is no excuse for others retardation. Junky can say what he wants. But if he attacked it (knowing he tunes to 200) then he is a complete sweetheartbag for doing so. But he might be one of those 70% that cant read (so he claims). Along with some n00blet named trooptard2.
:salute to Mr.Vega
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vega was always a first rate guy when I run into him online, :salute vega rip
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a guy did attack me durring the memorial flight....he died.
999000
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a guy did attack me durring the memorial flight....he died.
999000
too bad his hard drive didnt catch fire.
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a guy did attack me durring the memorial flight....he died.
999000
:rofl All the buffs in that mission and he picked the very one he shouldn't have. Sweet justice :rock
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1st i wanna say :salute and condolences to family friends neighbors squaddies of VEGA sorry for the loss. Losing a loved one is more than words can explain. Death is not to argue about/whine about/ point fingers or in any way disrespect.
I missed memorial flight due to power company servicing our power lines.
I caught the end tho soon after the buffs landed<knits> i buzzed their tower w my 262, came out without a scratch, flew by couple knits they cuda hoed me but didnt <S>
<S> VEGA
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Of course we absolutely knew there would be shots fired.
We wanted the most people available to pay respect, and that is what I remember about the mission. If I had a penny for every display of respect towards a fallen AH'er I would be rich.
Yes it happened. I do want to believe that the someone that did it simply didn't know any better.
I won't remember those parts of the mission.
I will remember......
All the DHBG almost choking up when DNR911 (His widow and long time AH'er herself) announced she was online and in Papafox's airplane.
The Bish lining up on our first overflights followed by all the <S>'s thrown out.
Approaching the first NME base and everyone instinctively calling out the cons only to have them wing up and fly with us. Then more, and more, and more, till the sky was filled with as many red icons as green and 99% of the game showing respect.
Then flying over the second NME base and having two different NME red icons all in one big furball. My wife next to me grabbing Kleenex after Kleenex at the sheer output of respect.
NME 262's and 234's completely vulnerable and flying WITHIN the ranks............easy pickings....and no shots fired.
I and others were angry at the shots fired, but like we said we knew it would happen and it was less than expected.
Those shots will be forgotten.
The honor and respect given by all who attended was overwhelming.
I've personally known Vega for over a decade. He is the one who got me into AH. He was a friend.
I know he was watching and didn't mind.
Remember the actions of the hundreds who were there and not the bad ones that were expected and could have been accidental.
SERIOUSLY FOLKS
<S><S><S><S><S><S><S> to all who have shown their respects here and in the flight.
Tapakeg
DHBG
Enough said :salute
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I flew the epic mission the whole flight and never once did I hear or see anyone using the memorial flight as cover either. Have to call B.S. on anyone that has used that as and excuse to attack the memorial flight.
If you're saying you didn't read numerous statements on 200 saying that the supposed "EPIC" mission coming out of rookland was the memorial flight, you either weren't paying attention or didn't have 200 tuned. I KNOW because I saw the huge dar and multitude of red dots, and upped 3 sectors in front of them and spent the entire climb monitoring 200 and trying to figure out what was going on. I knew the Memorial flight was that night, but knew nothing else about it (not even that it was originating Bish, not rook). I figured I'd either join this huge formation coming our way, or attack it if it was not the memorial flight. REPEATED questions went out on country and on range about the nature of the huge formation, and REPEATEDLY comments were made to the effect of "this is the memorial fligt, don't attack us" - that were later replied to by others with "that's not the memorial flight, it doesn't take off for another hour." Junky made repeated statements that he intended to attack the formation headed east to Knight strats, to which replies were made such as "this is the memorial flight" and "if you attack us you're a $%#$%"....... those people making those replies knew that the memorial flight was not up yet, and they weren't part of it. I don't recall the names, and unfortunately didn't have film rolling, but I know for a **** fact it did happen.
I SAW Junky attacking the rook formation, I was within icon range (for those of you too dense to still not understand that he was NOT and to my knowledge DID NOT attack the actual memorial flight) of him when he was engaged by a Pony and 2 47's that were escorting the buffs.
Here's a request, for someone whom may have been either attacking the EPIC mission or was a part of it, and happened to have film rolling: Post up the film of the epic mission, beginning to end, and I'll gladly go through every second of it and post up here exactly who said what and what they said, and we'll see that what I said happened did actually happen. Any takers?
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lol this thread reminds me of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJVolaC8pw
lmao what was that...
umm....nerd fest...
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Here's a request, for someone whom may have been either attacking the EPIC mission or was a part of it, and happened to have film rolling: Post up the film of the epic mission, beginning to end, and I'll gladly go through every second of it and post up here exactly who said what and what they said, and we'll see that what I said happened did actually happen. Any takers?
I think I filmed it.. If so I'll get it to you as soon as I can dig it up... As I said earlier, I don't recall anyone trying to use the Memorial flight as "cover", that doesn't mean it didn't happen.. I can't think of anything more dweebish or lowley.. The whole point of the Epic missions is get into a fight not avoid one... :salute
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lmao what was that...
umm....nerd fest...
Got some news for you. People that don't play AH think this is a nerdfest too. ;)
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Got some news for you. People that don't play AH think this is a nerdfest too. ;)
True be that..
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Fellow pilots,
We Dickweeds have resolved our issues with the memorial flight and ask you to move on to other topics now. We're back to leveling your cities and taking hits from you fighter jocks (and shooting back, of course), as it should be.
I don't think there's a one of us who regrets flying the event in the main arena.
Salute!
Papafox
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Fellow pilots,
We Dickweeds have resolved our issues with the memorial flight and ask you to move on to other topics now. We're back to leveling your cities and taking hits from you fighter jocks (and shooting back, of course), as it should be.
I don't think there's a one of us who regrets flying the event in the main arena.
Salute!
Papafox
91st Bomb Group will be right there with ya'. <S> :)
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Actually, I almost mistook a massive bombing run on the bish(?) strat as the memorial flight, I can see how some could do the converse, as they were both in the air at the same time. Not sure if that was intentional on their part or not... :noid
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Got some news for you. People that don't play AH think this is a nerdfest too. ;)
i guess ha :rock
froger
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To the ignorant and thoughtless children that did behave the way they did, I hope you eventually find it in yourself what this really meant to some others besides yourself and pray that your parents have the ability to teach you better than they have to this point about having some respect for others, I suspect the Apple does not fall far from the tree.
A life lesson you have failed to comprehend thus far.
Mark my words kiddies, If you don't "get it" yet, or "understand" it yet, you will inevitably run into someone one day that will gladly teach you this invaluable life lesson the hard way.
:salute Very well stated sir
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Just my worthless opinion but all this could have been avoided if the event was scheduled and held in the S.E.A. where ammo load and weather conditions etc. could have been regulated or done away with all together. If they have no bullets then good golly it was nipped in the bud and 20 pages of upset blather could have been avoided.
Even holding it in the TA where there is no damage may have been a thought. I agree we should be able to hold it where ever one feels like they want it but look at all the childish bickering , name calling , dweeb you ho'ed me crap and just all the overall FOOLISHNESS exhibited on a day to day basis and YOU are surprised this happened ?
Not defending anyone or taking sides ..... simply saying next time don't insult your own intelligence thinking guidelines will be followed by everyone in the arena. Some may have not known Vega and may have wanted to continue play. In that case find a target out of the memorial flight area and get down to it .. no harm done !!
Shoot you don't have to say it .... I don't know Jack .... just a quick view
To Vega ... :salute :angel: RIP PAL Never know vega might have been laughing his butt off at the huge furball that ensued...maybe / maybe not
here I'll save someone the trouble of telling me ------>>> (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d148/patrickclancy/icons/shutup.png)
Does anyone remember the story the indian told Micky and Mallery in his little TeePee in Natural Born Killers ?
Basically he said there was a lady with a pet rattle snake that bit her one day and as she lay there dying she asked the snake why did you bite me ? I took care of you and the snake looked at her and said "B%$#@* YOU KNEW I WAS A DANG SNAKE ... NUFF SAID
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Does anyone remember the story the indian told Micky and Mallery in his little TeePee in Natural Born Killers ?
Basically he said there was a lady with a pet rattle snake that bit her one day and as she lay there dying she asked the snake why did you bite me ? I took care of you and the snake looked at her and said "B%$#@* YOU KNEW I WAS A DANG SNAKE ... NUFF SAID
Killed a snake around my coy pond for that simple reason. Not to ask where did my fish go ? Just got home and theres a new visitor. Seems one of Kermits cousins has stopped in. Im amazed how he got his big bullfrog but through the fence. :D You can stay for a day or two Kermit, but I'm not running a hotel here or a sushi bar.
PS. and STFU at night Kermit! :furious
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Simple, very simple question.
Why hold or even suggest holding a memorial in an empty arena? What does that commemorate? 21 gun salute with silencers on anyone? Didn't think so. It is the 'risk' that makes an MA Memorial so much more poignant. When red icons form up with a green icons it speaks volumes of respect, condolence and the understanding that there are more important things than our phoney war.
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Simple, very simple question.
Why hold or even suggest holding a memorial in an empty arena?
very very simple answer. It wouldnt be empty. Lol
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very very simple answer. It wouldnt be empty. Lol
Exactly, a 21 gun salute with silencers on.
Bit of a stretch but imagine we asked for D-Day commemorations to be conducted in sealed warehouses where only the participants were afforded or allowed admittance.
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Exactly, a 21 gun salute with silencers on.
Bit of a stretch but imagine we asked for D-Day commemorations to be conducted in sealed warehouses where only the participants were afforded or allowed admittance.
You are completely wrong.
Memorials have been held in SEA with a huge turnout. And completely without risk of being interrupted or degrading into and insultfest.
And the DDay commemoration comparison is way off.
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And the DDay commemoration comparison is way off.
It was an analogy, not a comparison. Different things entirely.
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It was an analogy, not a comparison. Different things entirely.
Ok: Your analogy is way off
(analogy & comparison are both "Vergleich" in German, that's why I confused them)
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ok my two cents. As the Operations Officer Of the Dickweed Heavy Bomber Group. I had advertised This Memorial flight for a week.
1. why the main arena: Vega flew the main arena all the time. it was where he wated our squad night to be. in the T T arena where the most people flew. and he was well known and respected by all country's.
2. I addvertised the memorial flight on vox 200 for a week. up to the day of the flight.
3. It was posted in the forum. not only by me but other's as well.
4. I have friends in the rook and the knight communities that also posted and passed along the memorial flight & day.
5. THE BIG BLOB ON THE DAR. LOOK. FORMATIONS OF BOMBER'S,FIGHTER'S,BISH,KNIGHTS & ROOKS.FLYING CLOSE TO GETHER AND NOT FIRING.HMMM
6. Plus during the flight, on all country's ch. The chatter was this is a memorial flight, do not fire.
7.So with all these factor's how do you not no that it was a memorail flight.figure it out. there was no accusses. Case Closed
Operations officer GrnEagle.
thank's to all who attended. :salute
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I agree. It seems that the only solution we have to offer is to give the griffers license to do as they please, when they please while we run away to some empty arena. Total BS. A memorial flight should only be carried in the MA and the comunity should take care of the griffers since the people who can wont.
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The Special Events Arena is available for use for anyone who wishes to pay their respects in this manner. Please contact a member of the events team to discuss your requirements for any future memorial flights, we'd be more than happy to help.
What he ^^^ said.
Having any sort of memorial flight in the MA is just a very bad idea. Contact the SE staff on this forum and let them help you from there to schedule your flight.
ROX
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I understand you want a fallen buddy's memorial seen by the community in the MA. You do need to accept that the individual player may vulch, spawn camp, or otherwise mutilate any event in the MA.
If you want to have a memorial flight unmolested, do it in the SEA as this community cannot/will not police itself.
(for the record, when I die I want a bunch of P38s to auger into the HQ of the highest numbered country at the moment)
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I understand you want a fallen buddy's memorial seen by the community in the MA. You do need to accept that the individual player may vulch, spawn camp, or otherwise mutilate any event in the MA.
If you want to have a memorial flight unmolested, do it in the SEA as this community cannot/will not police itself.
(for the record, when I die I want a bunch of P38s to auger into the HQ of the highest numbered country at the moment)
I suppose you're going to make us all wait for this.....
:devil
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And when I go, you must all continue playing like normal so you don't waste your .50 cents that night.
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i wish to send my respects :angel: :saluteVEGA
as to the attckers thats not cool ma or sea its called respect and honor our fallen comrades and and those who
defile these memorial flights should be punished with a weeks suspension from flyin thats my 2 cents
RatmanCH :airplane:
:salute VEGA :angel: may he own the sky in heaven and keep a cap over us who are otw there RIP fellow flyer
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i wish to send my respects :angel: :saluteVEGA
as to the attckers thats not cool ma or sea its called respect and honor our fallen comrades and and those who
defile these memorial flights should be punished with a weeks suspension from flyin thats my 2 cents
RatmanCH :airplane:
:salute VEGA :angel: may he own the sky in heaven and keep a cap over us who are otw there RIP fellow flyer
They would have to have us sign some sort of code of conduct when we signed up, otherwise I believe the suspension would be illegal.