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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: PanosGR on December 14, 2010, 12:18:31 PM
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Map is already here, jet community is well established. Only thing we need is just two planes: MiG-15 plus F-86E. If I recall correct, from some oldtimers Air Warrior used to have a Korea Arena. Thus the plane software FM should be somewhere in HTC archives. If this is true, and can be retrieved, why not make a new arena with only these two planes plus any GV you may want. Maybe it is not so simple, as I describe it, but at least it is feasible. Isn’t it?
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The Korean Arena in Air Warrior was Relaxed Realism.
I'd be all for it though.+1
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The Korean Arena in Air Warrior was Relaxed Realism.
I'd be all for it though.+1
Pretty sure FR had one, too. It was difficult not to black out all the time in the jets.
- oldman
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I like the idea for a Korean War arena better than a WW1 arena because you'd still have the option to fly many WW2 airplanes, and even get some of the later variants that didn't see action in WW2.
I think the problem with the AW KW arena was that jets were always enabled. I'd prefer to see them perked, and have the base of the arena remain prop planes. I'm probably in the minority.
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I due not think we should seprigate arenas based on nationality. That’s just my opinion though. If HTC wants to set a president like that who am I too say know? Its they’re can of werms to opin. Not mines. Sew bee it.
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Pretty sure FR had one, too. It was difficult not to black out all the time in the jets.
- oldman
I do not remember it, in AW3 in particular.
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I like the idea for a Korean War arena better than a WW1 arena because you'd still have the option to fly many WW2 airplanes, and even get some of the later variants that didn't see action in WW2.
I think the problem with the AW KW arena was that jets were always enabled. I'd prefer to see them perked, and have the base of the arena remain prop planes. I'm probably in the minority.
P51s were the most widely used plane in Korea iirc... but iirc also that the North Koreans didnt use any prop planes but just the Russian Migs... And from battling in 262s i know for a fact that the Mig15 and the F86 wont be blackouts all the time. (no, i havent just fought high Gs in 262s just in jet week...)
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I would love to see a Korean War arena. Having said that: I feel the WW1 arena wasn't started off on the best footing (the DR1 Anti Gravitational generator "aka Tie Fighter" comes to mind).
I am not at all sure that HTC is going to do any more there to try and make the WW1 arena a better more interesting experience. Korea arena unfortunately is not something I see happening anytime soon, if at all in AH.
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but iirc also that the North Koreans didnt use any prop planes but just the Russian Migs
LA7, LA10, Yak3 and 9, IL2 and 10, and, Bed Check Charley, the PO-2
(http://www.hans-egebo.dk/images/po2-2.gif)
wrongway
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-1 I'd rather they spend the time improving the WW2 game. If they want to add more jets, the He-162, Meteor, and P-80a are always available.
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LA7, LA10, Yak3 and 9, IL2 and 10, and, Bed Check Charley, the PO-2
Heh,
La-7, Yak-3 or Il-2 didnt fight in the Korean war...and there's no such thing as La-10.
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The Korean war was the start of the jet age. (if you exclude ww2 witch I do) I'v ben looking for a Korean war game. we got ww1 why not the Korean war? +1 with a score of 10 +2 thumbs up! lol :D
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-1 I'd rather they spend the time improving the WW2 game.
+1 to that statement.
Still think it would end up as empty as the WWI arena after the "new shine" wore off.
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Heh,
La-7, Yak-3 or Il-2 didnt fight in the Korean war...and there's no such thing as La-10.
La-9, La-11, and Il-10 off the top of my head. Didnt some more versions of the Yak see combat?
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+1 to that statement.
Still think it would end up as empty as the WWI arena after the "new shine" wore off.
If it was a strictly "Korean War" arena, then you'd probably be right.
If it was a "1946+" arena, I think it'd stand a good chance.
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La-9, La-11, and Il-10 off the top of my head. Didnt some more versions of the Yak see combat?
Talking about fighter aircraft, Yak-9P was brief service. A lesser type, Yak-18 also saw combat.
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+1
I want to see this purely as when its done it would make the game complete.
Because the late war aircraft like F4U's and P-51's served in Korea. And with the new B-29 we see bombers as well. Add in the Shooting star (American jet that could be perked in Late War) with an F-86. Add an LA and a Yak while Modelling a Mig-15. Put in Shermans and T-34s with M3's and Sdfkz's (for soviets) for GV wars.
And then with that you see WW1, WW2, Korea. All full realism (respectively) in one game. The market would go up I think as we encompass every era of pure gun air to air combat.
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well i just think it will be my dream come true ti kill a B-29 with a MIG :D
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Because the late war aircraft like F4U's and P-51's served in Korea. And with the new B-29 we see bombers as well.
And we just got a nice new Korea map. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if a Korea arena was in the near future.
- oldman
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Korean Arena would be fun for these:
(http://www.kitcutters.com/Zir/ZirA1Skyraider.jpg)
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And we just got a nice new Korea map. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if a Korea arena was in the near future.
- oldman
SHHHHHH!!!!! :O
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How about just a JET arena, say 1945-1965, guns only!
I think this might stand a chance
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Nobody remembers the Korean War weekend we did a few years back?
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/f86_2.jpg)
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Nobody remembers the Korean War weekend we did a few years back?
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/f86_2.jpg)
:rofl Thats just cruel........ :lol
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Two Weeks Pyro. Two weeks :pray
Since Im praying, hows the dev work coming on the SE5a and Albatross :x
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Nobody remembers the Korean War weekend we did a few years back?
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/f86_2.jpg)
sooooooooooooooooooooo whens the next one, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :D guys time to mail a case of booze off to HT
Edit... after looking at that pic over and over I'm thrown into a depression :( pssst whats the .plane# code fer that bad boy :devil
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Nobody remembers the Korean War weekend we did a few years back?
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/f86_2.jpg)
AND I MISSED IT?!?!?!?!?! :furious :cry
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Nobody remembers the Korean War weekend we did a few years back?
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/f86_2.jpg)
Dang, he was just sitting there lurking for the right time and " Wham!!" a teaser. :bolt: :salute
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Hawker Sea Fury :rock
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Nobody remembers the Korean War weekend we did a few years back?
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/f86_2.jpg)
Cant wait for this, :aok
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I think the problem with the AW KW arena was that jets were always enabled. I'd prefer to see them perked, and have the base of the arena remain prop planes. I'm probably in the minority.
If there was going to be a Korea arena in AH, you're right in that at least the F-86E would have to be perked, otherwise you'd just have an arena full of Sabres fighting each other.
ack-ack
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P51s were the most widely used plane in Korea iirc... but iirc also that the North Koreans didnt use any prop planes but just the Russian Migs... And from battling in 262s i know for a fact that the Mig15 and the F86 wont be blackouts all the time. (no, i havent just fought high Gs in 262s just in jet week...)
Communist forces also flew the Yak and many other prop planes during the Korean War.
ack-ack
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Communist forces also flew the Yak and many other prop planes during the Korean War.
ack-ack
yeah a few people already mentioned all the planes used. didnt expect that many honestly
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Nobody remembers the Korean War weekend we did a few years back?
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/f86_2.jpg)
Kind of makes one wonder if that is a genuine screenshot, or just something photoshopped... the world may never know (at least not for a couple of weeks)
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yeah a few people already mentioned all the planes used. didnt expect that many honestly
Not to mention a lot of US piston planes like the F-51/-82/B-26 invader (it switched to B designator)/F4-U/Skyraider/Bearcat and a few others as well as the B-29's etc...
All the Best...
Jay
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Talking about fighter aircraft, Yak-9P was brief service. A lesser type, Yak-18 also saw combat.
Yak-9U also saw service with the NK air force as well as the Yak-11 and Yak-16.
One thing I didn't know was that the B-17 also saw action during Korea, not as a bomber but as a SAR aircraft.
ack-ack
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Pretty sure FR had one, too. It was difficult not to black out all the time in the jets.
- oldman
I recall a FR Korea arena as well.
ack-ack
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Add in the Shooting star (American jet that could be perked in Late War)
Never saw any combat in WW2, so it couldn't be perked in the LW arenas as it wouldn't qualify to be added to the WW2 planeset.
ack-ack
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yeah a few people already mentioned all the planes used. didnt expect that many honestly
This is a good site that has a chronological timeline of the planes introduced on each side during the Korean War.
Korean Air War and Surrounding Events (http://www.korean-war.com/AirChronology.html).
This is another site that has a nice .pdf on the enemy planes that the US expected to see in combat as well as an analysis of what kind of enemy planes the US and UN forces will face as the war dragged on. Sadly, I can't find the complete report, just this section on enemy planes.
Enemy planes in Korea (http://www.history.navy.mil/a-korea/jun51-18.pdf)
Also note for the person said that the La-7 didn't see action, well on 06/29/1950, a B-29 damaged a Yak 9 and a La-7.
ack-ack
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This is a good site that has a chronological timeline of the planes introduced on each side during the Korean War.
Korean Air War and Surrounding Events (http://www.korean-war.com/AirChronology.html).
This is another site that has a nice .pdf on the enemy planes that the US expected to see in combat as well as an analysis of what kind of enemy planes the US and UN forces will face as the war dragged on. Sadly, I can't find the complete report, just this section on enemy planes.
Enemy planes in Korea (http://www.history.navy.mil/a-korea/jun51-18.pdf)
Also note for the person said that the La-7 didn't see action, well on 06/29/1950, a B-29 damaged a Yak 9 and a La-7.
ack-ack
:aok <S>
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Yak-9U also saw service with the NK air force as well as the Yak-11 and Yak-16.
Do you have source for Yak-9U being there? I haven't seen one. Several lesser Yak-types were flown, yes.
Also note for the person said that the La-7 didn't see action, well on 06/29/1950, a B-29 damaged a Yak 9 and a La-7.
Finns also claimed to have shot down Spitfires, P-51s and even a P-38 during WWII, yet none of them appeared on our front. Misidentification of enemy types in a war is common place. That article for example talks about Yak-3 which certainly wasn't in Korea. It is a written with the knowledge of that time. I haven't heard of any NK/USSR units that used La-7s in the war, there's plenty of La-7 claims though.
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I might even come back full time instead of just during Xmas. :)
Some of us have been waiting along time for a Korean theater!
Here are some planes to think about:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,27420.0.html
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well not a hijack but i did notice were missing 2 WW1 arena's now, they could of been gone before this patch never really noticed it till today :noid
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This would mean Sea Fury...I'm game.
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Do you have source for Yak-9U being there? I haven't seen one. Several lesser Yak-types were flown, yes.
From the link I posted with the chronological events of the Korean air war.
500625 (06/25/1950) 0400 hours -- KPA commences "First (Seoul) Phase"
KPAFAC starts war with 239 aircraft, of which 129 are Yaks and 43 are Il-10s; the remainer are Po-2, Yak-11, Yak-16, or Yak-18 types.
KPAFAC Attacks -- Yak-9P and Yak-9U committed to combat.
USAF SB-17 and RB-29 committed to combat
0900 -- US Embassy determines that all-out offensive had begun.
ack-ack
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P51s were the most widely used plane in Korea iirc... but iirc also that the North Koreans didnt use any prop planes but just the Russian Migs... And from battling in 262s i know for a fact that the Mig15 and the F86 wont be blackouts all the time. (no, i havent just fought high Gs in 262s just in jet week...)
Most F86s aces had more kills on LAs then any other plane if the stuff I read in Korea was right :aok
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From the link I posted with the chronological events of the Korean air war.
Hmm...
According to the Gordon L. Rottman's Korean War order of battle, Korean Peoples Air Force's OOB in the beginning of the war consisted of:
1st Assault Aviation Regiment 93x Il-10
1st Fighter Aviation Regiment 79x Yak-9P
1st Combined Aviation Regiment 40-50 trainers, transport, liason etc.
People's Air force did have other combat aircraft but it is my understanding that the two former units primarily engaged in combat operations during the first couple months (when talking about prop planes).
Anyway, communist day time prop-job operations became practically non-existant in just couple of months into the war. After that, the communist side operations were practically day time Migs and night harrasment with lesser types with couple exceptions.
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if we get a Korean war arena I WANT HELICOPTERS!!!! :rock there has to be helicopters
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can I have Hot Lips Hoolihan along with the helicopter?
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yes you can but a helicopter in here would be awesome lol fun to see how many ppl try and take off lol even better try and land haha, anyways the helicopter could be a transport or drop supps etc all that stuff
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Anyway, communist day time prop-job operations became practically non-existant in just couple of months into the war. After that, the communist side operations were practically day time Migs and night harrasment with lesser types with couple exceptions.
Agreed though it does appear that North Korea were still using or at least had in their inventory prop planes. On May 5, 1951 the USN and USAF put in claims of 38 destroyed North Korean planes (mix of Yak-9s, IL-10s and at least one La-5) at Sinuiju. But I would venture to say, at least in this stage of the Korean War, North Korean forces had pretty much taken a back seat in the war with China replacing them as the primary communist forces in the war.
ack-ack
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I voted "Not interested" for the WWI poll. If there were a similar poll for a Korean War Arena, I would vote "Yes please".
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I do not remember it, in AW3 in particular.
Think it was a short-lived thing they did prior to the FR "Korea 51" scenario to prep folks for the event. I was GL of a Sabre group in that one so I remember that happened.
Jets were fun. I liked the differences between the F-86 and Mig-15. Made for some good fights. Took a while getting the flap/brake/power thing down. Problem is we don't have those birds here. Seems to me that would equal a lot of work for HTC for what would be for a small arena's worth of use. We gots bigger fish to fry plugging up a few more holes in the WW2 planeset before we start to fast forward into a whole 'nother war IMO. Be a nice thing to have when we run out of ideas here.
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Not to mention a lot of US piston planes like the F-51/-82/B-26 invader (it switched to B designator)/F4-U/Skyraider/Bearcat and a few others as well as the B-29's etc...
All the Best...
Jay
the F-82 twin mustang :x ! woot woot!!
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yes you can but a helicopter in here would be awesome lol fun to see how many ppl try and take off lol even better try and land haha, anyways the helicopter could be a transport or drop supps etc all that stuff
pic up ppl who bailed out :D give them more perks then being captured (well if the helicopter lands lol).
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Think it was a short-lived thing they did prior to the FR "Korea 51" scenario to prep folks for the event. I was GL of a Sabre group in that one so I remember that happened.
Jets were fun. I liked the differences between the F-86 and Mig-15. Made for some good fights. Took a while getting the flap/brake/power thing down. Problem is we don't have those birds here. Seems to me that would equal a lot of work for HTC for what would be for a small arena's worth of use. We gots bigger fish to fry plugging up a few more holes in the WW2 planeset before we start to fast forward into a whole 'nother war IMO. Be a nice thing to have when we run out of ideas here.
Agreed.
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Question for Hitech if he would care to answer. Is the F-86 in warbirds yours or did it come after your time?
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no way cooldued thats not what i want it for dude, thats like asking for the PBY now its ridiculous.
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North Korean forces had pretty much taken a back seat in the war with China replacing them as the primary communist forces in the war. ack-ack
To this day I wonder what would have happened if Truman would have left MacArthur in command. I cant help but think it would have been a better outcome for the entire Korean peninsula. I just don't know....
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To this day I wonder what would have happened if Truman would have left MacArthur in command.
It most like would have resulted in a general war between the Chinese/Soviet Union and UN forces, which would have immediately spiraled out of control into World War III and possible atomic weapon exchanges between the US and Soviet Union.
ack-ack
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To this day I wonder what would have happened if Truman would have left MacArthur in command. I cant help but think it would have been a better outcome for the entire Korean peninsula. I just don't know....
I too often wonder what would have happened. Would him going in to China and stopping the communist there prevent the spread to Vietnam or would it, like ack-ack put it, spiral out of control into WW3. We will never know.
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It most like would have resulted in a general war between the Chinese/Soviet Union and UN forces, which would have immediately spiraled out of control into World War III and possible atomic weapon exchanges between the US and Soviet Union.
I believe MacArthur actually wanted to use nukes along the border between China and North Korea, where the Chicoms were concentrating their forces.
Will have to check, relying on memory here.
- oldman
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If done in the manner of the WWII and WWI arenas, what would stop it from simply being almost all F-86Es, or if those were perked, almost all MiG-15s? It seems to me that done in the fashion where any unit can be picked by any side it would pretty much be a United States military hardware fratricide.
If done in a UN vs Communist forces style, it seems to me that it would start as 400 UN players against 10-50 Communist players and devolve into 10 UN players searching in vain for the 0-1 Communist player.
None of that sounds like good gameplay to me.
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Well, I guess the first question I have is "Strat enabled?"
Or is it going to be a 2 field, one plane, pointless moshpit like...you know.
:cool:,
Wab
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If done in the manner of the WWII and WWI arenas, what would stop it from simply being almost all F-86Es, or if those were perked, almost all MiG-15s? It seems to me that done in the fashion where any unit can be picked by any side it would pretty much be a United States military hardware fratricide.
If done in a UN vs Communist forces style, it seems to me that it would start as 400 UN players against 10-50 Communist players and devolve into 10 UN players searching in vain for the 0-1 Communist player.
None of that sounds like good gameplay to me.
As Ack-Ack has pointed out before, until the introduction of the F-86E, the MiG-15 was equal if not superior.
IIRC there were more MiGs flying in the AW Korea Arena than Sabers.
wrongway
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See Rule #2
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Don't forget the Kim-Chee pots, Binjo ditches, hooches, mamasons & Oxcarts....Oh yea, & that smell, what the hell is that smell? :old:
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See Rule #2
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See Rule #2
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Like others said, I think F-86E variant should be perked.
Also, what's the difference between MiG-15 and MiG-15 bis? Should bis be perked?
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See Rule #2
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See Rule #2
Well thats, something new. I cant expand my own topic.
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Well thats, something new. I cant expand my own topic.
Not in that direction.
P.S. We all saw it coming. ;)
Wab
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-1 I'd rather they spend the time improving the WW2 game. If they want to add more jets, the He-162, Meteor, and P-80a are always available.
+1....I can only stand dying regularly in one arena.
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Map is already here, jet community is well established.
I'm all for this. Then shove the 262s and 163s into it and kick 'em the hell out of the prop plane arena. :) :devil
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Not in that direction.
P.S. We all saw it coming. ;)
Wab
i honestly didn't :lol
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Well thats, something new. I cant expand my own topic.
No! shame on you. They have hired new thread police, undercover DOH!. UhOh Flame baiting? :bolt:
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Ya'll know that the B-29 was the main bomber for the Korean War right? And we're gettin one pretty soon. :D
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I believe MacArthur actually wanted to use nukes along the border between China and North Korea, where the Chicoms were concentrating their forces.
Will have to check, relying on memory here.
- oldman
You weren't there?
:bolt:
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Wasn't that long ago the threads were about wanting a WW1 arena and look how popular that is today. :rolleyes:
<S>...-Gixer
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Wasn't that long ago the threads were about wanting a WW1 arena and look how popular that is today. :rolleyes:
<S>...-Gixer
Unfortunately the initial plane set was very VERY limited. Basically its a one plane arena and thus has extremely short legs to hold most anyones interest for any durable length of time. Hopefully HTC will flesh it out more and make it more
interesting. I hope this makes sense Gixer. <S>
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Yeah of course it makes sense. Point I've been making ever since AH2 was released was that I'd rather see HT complete all existing AH1 aircraft to AH2 levels, before spending time and resources on new toys and sandpits. <S>
<S>...-Gixer
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Nobody remembers the Korean War weekend we did a few years back?
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This for real?
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This for real?
no
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no
Insert Reverse Smiley.
Though the 1946 arena sounds swell.
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no
yes :aok
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Jet vs. jet is lame imho...I went to ava during jet week and I chased another deuce for 20 minutes 600 off him.
I fired every last round eventually without scoring a hit....it was like my round dissapeared before it could reach him...was very frustrating :bhead
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Jet vs. jet is lame imho...I went to ava during jet week and I chased another deuce for 20 minutes 600 off him.
I fired every last round eventually without scoring a hit....it was like my round dissapeared before it could reach him...was very frustrating :bhead
Maybe ,just maybe . You forgot to turn your time circuits on and amde sure your flux capacitor was fluxing.
oh and Yes Preaze.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxvAwBnyL1U&feature=related
Just a lil sum sum.
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(http://assets.head-fi.org/4/4e/4e0bd4a6_Bump6.jpg)
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As an Air Warror Vet I can say this.
AW's WW1 arena was always way under-populated, just like here. AW's Korean war arena was much the same. just not enough interest. Its not much of a war with less than ten people. My thoughts: Keep the WW1 arena if you want. Its already here, but don't waste the resources and time on Korea. Put it all into making WW2 even better.
On the other hand I think "1946" would be a hoot.
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Hey Box <S>. Maybe my memory is not as clear as it could be but I flew AW Korea pretty much exclusively after it opened untill the game itself shut down. I must disagree with you about the low numbers there. Very late at night it was pretty sparse but there was always plenty of action during the day and I personally enjoyed the arena very much. I am actually not advocating for a Korean arena nor against one. HTC will make a business decision that involves alot more information than I am privy to. I respect his decisions and will find plenty of fun no matter where or what I fly in this most excellent of games. :rock
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I like the idea for a Korean War arena better than a WW1 arena because you'd still have the option to fly many WW2 airplanes, and even get some of the later variants that didn't see action in WW2.
I think the problem with the AW KW arena was that jets were always enabled. I'd prefer to see them perked, and have the base of the arena remain prop planes. I'm probably in the minority.
:aok
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You know you want a Skyraider.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uw9BkjyY1E
+1 for Korea
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I remember the korean arena in AW. It was a constant battle of blackouts and stalls. Not really that much fun for me. I would love to see us go backwards, rather than forward in modeling. Ki-43, Cr32 and 42, Hawk, He-111, etc.... :salute
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I remember the korean arena in AW. It was a constant battle of blackouts and stalls. Not really that much fun for me. I would love to see us go backwards, rather than forward in modeling. Ki-43, Cr32 and 42, Hawk, He-111, etc.... :salute
We need our old Spanish Civil War proponent Arlo to log in here.
- oldman (would love a CR32)
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(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182699_10150098522932949_700532948_6463168_5641739_n.jpg)
mmmm...art deco at it's best. Those Italians could pen some gorgeous line.
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Me Rikey very much
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/ronery_1.jpg)
N Korea Best Korea :rofl
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Me Rikey very much
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/ronery_1.jpg)
N Korea Best Korea :rofl
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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Korean Arena would be fun for these:
(http://www.kitcutters.com/Zir/ZirA1Skyraider.jpg)
Ugliest Plane ever.
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Hey Box <S>. Maybe my memory is not as clear as it could be but I flew AW Korea pretty much exclusively after it opened untill the game itself shut down. I must disagree with you about the low numbers there. Very late at night it was pretty sparse but there was always plenty of action during the day and I personally enjoyed the arena very much. I am actually not advocating for a Korean arena nor against one. HTC will make a business decision that involves alot more information than I am privy to. I respect his decisions and will find plenty of fun no matter where or what I fly in this most excellent of games. :rock
LOL My memory is slipping too. But I still don't recall much support in the AW Korean area. I started there in'94 and flew it off and on until it died. I never recall flying Korea.
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Nobody remembers the Korean War weekend we did a few years back?
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/f86_2.jpg)
yes please.. :D
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Hey Box <S>. Maybe my memory is not as clear as it could be but I flew AW Korea pretty much exclusively after it opened untill the game itself shut down. I must disagree with you about the low numbers there. Very late at night it was pretty sparse but there was always plenty of action during the day and I personally enjoyed the arena very much. I am actually not advocating for a Korean arena nor against one. HTC will make a business decision that involves alot more information than I am privy to. I respect his decisions and will find plenty of fun no matter where or what I fly in this most excellent of games. :rock
+1
AW Korea and AW3 Korea both rocked. There was plenty of action.
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AW Korea and AW3 Korea both rocked. There was plenty of action.
its different from constant furballs in WWI. there would actually be a reason behind jets and there can be alot of prop planes in there also with a style of gameplay like the MAs. I'm all for Korea.
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I like the idea for a Korean War arena better than a WW1 arena because you'd still have the option to fly many WW2 airplanes, and even get some of the later variants that didn't see action in WW2.
I think the problem with the AW KW arena was that jets were always enabled. I'd prefer to see them perked, and have the base of the arena remain prop planes. I'm probably in the minority.
Nope it would be a good idea actually. Though "1946" MA sounds better xD.
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+1
AW Korea and AW3 Korea both rocked. There was plenty of action.
As my faulty memory recalls Grizz, we spent way too much time in Korea hating on each other, I was better of course, but there is that faulty memory thingy.
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As my faulty memory recalls Grizz, we spent way too much time in Korea hating on each other, I was better of course, but there is that faulty memory thingy.
Lol I remember us being tight. Aw007 also. Remember him as well?
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Lol I remember us being tight. Aw007 also. Remember him as well?
I remember someone telling me they never played AW! :headscratch:
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I remember someone telling me they never played AW! :headscratch:
You must be misremembering
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Lol I remember us being tight. Aw007 also. Remember him as well?
Yup, we had a ball, and we had alot of late night just us knock down drag out battles, no one else around, and yeah I do remember Aw007 and Predr, and his buddy whose name I forget.
Bring on Korea! Would love to engage a flight of B29's in a MiG15 (salivating).
I also seem to remember that very good sticks in prop planes were very tough to fight. It wont be just jets in there playing is my guess .
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You must be misremembering
right
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Yup, we had a ball, and we had alot of late night just us knock down drag out battles, no one else around, and yeah I do remember Aw007 and Predr, and his buddy whose name I forget.
Bring on Korea! Would love to engage a flight of B29's in a MiG15 (salivating).
I also seem to remember that very good sticks in prop planes were very tough to fight. It wont be just jets in there playing is my guess .
Cujo^ ?
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Cujo.
Man, wonder where he is. Good job on that memory thingy Grizz.
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(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182699_10150098522932949_700532948_6463168_5641739_n.jpg)
mmmm...art deco at it's best. Those Italians could pen some gorgeous line.
totally unrelated to Koweeuh Awena discussion, but them Italianz got nothin on the Brits for art-deco goodness
Chilton DW-1
(http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/attachments/classics/7907d1286866680-chilton-dw-1-build-nz-202-20chilton-20dw_1.jpg)
De Havilland DH88 Comet Racer
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Cujo.
Man, wonder where he is. Good job on that memory thingy Grizz.
Of course to clarify, Predr and Cujo played AW1 Korea and were in the dragons and flew Mig15's. You and Deth7 were the F86 guys in the PigStompers. In aw3, I don't recall seeing Predr or Cujo, but rather guys like Aw007, KIKBT, meat!, and others I can't seem to remember. Maybe Muzik played, I can't recall..
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LOL PigStompers.
"We shall kill no swine before its time"
and Squeeeeeeeeeeee!! (had a macro for that)
and my favorite macro after I got a kill "Kill of ***** by Zoney. Your son will not be returning home because you passed on defective genes"
and Deth7. You know he looked like the biker guy in Village People right?
But this needs to stop. I am feeling very old suddenly and really want a Korean Arena in AH now. Man I loved that F86.
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cujo? that was you? Yea I popped into korea on occasion. I remember cujo, Deth7, KIKBT and meat! Aw007 and Predr vaguely.
I might as well be on topic at least once. The only way the korean arena in AW could be compared to AH WW1 arena is (Late night AW korea = prime time AH WW1)
As for the "business strategy" argument, a korean arena would be good for business. Not great because, if done like the ww1 arena, it's unlikely to ever have a large following or a big impact on subscriptions. But it will certainly be more popular than WW1.
As for the other side of that argument, business in AH will not grow anymore than normal by "finishing the ww2 set before doing something new." Even if we got every plane in ww2, AH isnt going to see any real growth. At least with Korea, the internet publicity would surely grab a few more customers.
This is basically the same game we had 15 years ago and the only way it will see significant growth is if it expands beyond Hitechs current ideal. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
+1 Korea
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Cujo was not myself or Grizz. Grizz was Grizz and I was Zoney. Alot of the guys playing here now with 5 digit handles have kept them from AW days. Predr is an IT guy now, he briefly played AH about a year ago and Predr is still friends with Cujo. As I recall Cujo is a technician with one of the IndyCar race teams now. My favorite handle from AW is a guy who only used symbols, no letters, as that was allowed then. His name was <'^>< we called him shark I believe. I was always jealous of his creativity.
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I voted "Not interested" for the WWI poll. If there were a similar poll for a Korean War Arena, I would vote "Yes please".
My sentiments as well, though I'd much rather see work finished on WWII first (update remaining planes cockpits, fill in planeset gaps, add more game strategy options).
I'd be interested in flying an F9F Panther off a carrier, or trying out an F-82 Twin Mustang. I believe the Gloster Meteor saw some service against MiGs, too?
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Cujo was not myself or Grizz. Grizz was Grizz and I was Zoney. Alot of the guys playing here now with 5 digit handles have kept them from AW days. Predr is an IT guy now, he briefly played AH about a year ago and Predr is still friends with Cujo. As I recall Cujo is a technician with one of the IndyCar race teams now. My favorite handle from AW is a guy who only used symbols, no letters, as that was allowed then. His name was <'^>< we called him shark I believe. I was always jealous of his creativity.
Cujo I think came over as well during the Exodus but faded away after a time.
ack-ack
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P51s were the most widely used plane in Korea iirc... but iirc also that the North Koreans didnt use any prop planes but just the Russian Migs... And from battling in 262s i know for a fact that the Mig15 and the F86 wont be blackouts all the time. (no, i havent just fought high Gs in 262s just in jet week...)
Not quite bro. These are the ones I can think of off of the top of my head. :rock
Soviet
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis
Yakovlev Yak-17UTI
Chinese
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis
Yakovlev Yak-9P
Lavochkin La-9
Ilyushin Il-10
Tupolev Tu-2
Yakovlev Yak-17UTI
Yakovlev Yak-18 trainer
North Korean
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis
Yakovlev Yak-9P
Lavochkin La-9
Ilyushin Il-10
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North Korea also used the Po-2 and Yak-18 as both trainers and night time harasssment attack planes.
For the communist air forces, the Po-2 was the second most widely used plane and also the second most effective plane used by the communists.
The Yak-18 also enjoyed some success, the most successful Yak-18 night harassment raid took place on June 17, 1953 when a group of Yak-18s hit the fuel dump at Inchon, destroying more than 5 million gallons of fuel.
ack-ack
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As much as I hate to come across as and Ack Ack anklehumper you guys can pretty much take anything he says regarding history and gaming to the bank and come away with a good profit.
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Cujo was not myself or Grizz. Grizz was Grizz and I was Zoney. Alot of the guys playing here now with 5 digit handles have kept them from AW days. Predr is an IT guy now, he briefly played AH about a year ago and Predr is still friends with Cujo. As I recall Cujo is a technician with one of the IndyCar race teams now. My favorite handle from AW is a guy who only used symbols, no letters, as that was allowed then. His name was <'^>< we called him shark I believe. I was always jealous of his creativity.
I remember a couple guys used some form of the handle griz, one who used to fly yaks a lot. I seem to remember running into deth7 not long after getting into AH. And I remember the shark guy.
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Cujo was not myself or Grizz. Grizz was Grizz and I was Zoney. Alot of the guys playing here now with 5 digit handles have kept them from AW days. Predr is an IT guy now, he briefly played AH about a year ago and Predr is still friends with Cujo. As I recall Cujo is a technician with one of the IndyCar race teams now. My favorite handle from AW is a guy who only used symbols, no letters, as that was allowed then. His name was <'^>< we called him shark I believe. I was always jealous of his creativity.
No NO NO... His name was FISH, at least that's what we called him in the Confederate Knights (an all cop squad) and he was a squadmate of mine. We were in RR2ETO and Worro was the squad leader. Before some idiot starts with the racist stuff... we were NOT racist and had a variety of races in the squad.
All the Best...
Jay
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Not quite bro. These are the ones I can think of off of the top of my head. :rock
Soviet
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis
Yakovlev Yak-17UTI
Chinese
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis
Yakovlev Yak-9P
Lavochkin La-9
Ilyushin Il-10
Tupolev Tu-2
Yakovlev Yak-17UTI
Yakovlev Yak-18 trainer
North Korean
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis
Yakovlev Yak-9P
Lavochkin La-9
Ilyushin Il-10
yeah mash. this is an old bumped thread. we actually discussed the planes used for a while :aok thanks for the list though <S>
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No NO NO... His name was FISH, at least that's what we called him in the Confederate Knights (an all cop squad) and he was a squadmate of mine. We were in RR2ETO and Worro was the squad leader. Before some idiot starts with the racist stuff... we were NOT racist and had a variety of races in the squad.
All the Best...
Jay
Yeah, his handle was FISH. I remember him getting flak sometimes because people would think he was preaching with his CPID. Remember the CK's but didn't know they were all cops, explains why one of the old time 479th guys, =BILL got along so well with you guys.
ack-ack
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Haven't flown AH for 2 years now, ever since the upgrade that made win 98 not work with the game. Been riding motorcycles alot (almost like flying). If korea shows up here color me comp upgrade and in a jet!!!!!!
Squeeeeeeeeeeee Zoney!!
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Haven't flown AH for 2 years now, ever since the upgrade that made win 98 not work with the game. Been riding motorcycles alot (almost like flying). If korea shows up here color me comp upgrade and in a jet!!!!!!
Squeeeeeeeeeeee Zoney!!
Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeee Deth7. I miss you bud <S>. Please come back soon! Man, we haddalottafun, more to be had.