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Title: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 14, 2013, 09:25:06 AM
This thread makes me wonder:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.390.html

3992 views and 397 replies so far.


I post the original pilot's notes of the Westland Whirlwind (it's just an example (oh yeah, and a plug)):

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,313538.msg4621051.html#msg4621051

...and not one reply.


Is this forum now simply a soap opera for grown men, flaming, griefing, mocking and judging others? More smack talk than 1,000 Muhammad Alis locked in a cupboard! Is no one interested in aircraft or ACM anymore?

 :frown:


Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Lusche on June 14, 2013, 09:29:28 AM
The forum is being much less used now in general (See forum stats). Maybe a 'generation' issue. In the age of FB, Twitter, and others, forums as a way of communication are perhaps going the way of Usenet, IRC, ...


Is no one interested in aircraft or ACM anymore?

That may be a player 'generation' issue as well.  And I don't mean that in any degrading or inflammatory way.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: LCADolby on June 14, 2013, 09:29:47 AM
I downloaded the pilots handbook, when you posted it... A few more trips to the loo, and I'll post my thoughts  :old:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: gyrene81 on June 14, 2013, 09:30:43 AM
Is this forum now simply a soap opera for grown men, flaming, griefing, mocking and judging others? More smack talk than 1,000 Muhammad Alis locked in a cupboard! Is no one interested in aircraft or ACM anymore?

 :frown:
where have you been, it's been this way since before i started here...i've seen the same crap in many other forums over the years, it's nothing new.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bozon on June 14, 2013, 09:40:23 AM
Not sure what you expect. You posted the pilot notes for a plane we do not have in AH and few people know about, in a thread in the wishlist forum that even fewer read. Then you compare the responses to those from a thread in the main general forum that people not only Whirlwind fans read and anyone without any knowledge of aviation or history can respond to.

I now noticed the pilot notes and downloaded them. Thank you for posting, in case that is what you wanted to hear.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 14, 2013, 09:50:56 AM
Not sure what you expect. You posted the pilot notes for a plane we do not have in AH and few people know about, in a thread in the wishlist forum that even fewer read. Then you compare the responses to those from a thread in the main general forum that people not only Whirlwind fans read and anyone without any knowledge of aviation or history can respond to.

I now noticed the pilot notes and downloaded them. Thank you for posting, in case that is what you wanted to hear.

Thank you but it wasn't really the purpose, just trying to get players interested and sharing information.

You're saying the 'other' thread hold more accessible interest, even though it reads like two gangs of grandmas standing on opposite sides of the street waving their handbags at each other?  :eek:


where have you been, it's been this way since before i started here...i've seen the same crap in many other forums over the years, it's nothing new.

For some reason when I search I mostly get threads from ten years ago. They seem different to me. More aircraft discussion and ACM. A bit of smack talk for sure, but nowadays this seems to be everywhere

Maybe my tolerance has run out  :old:

Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Triton28 on June 14, 2013, 10:00:21 AM
I'm just guessing here, but I think keyboard commandoitis has been around since Gore invented the internet.  All it took was for one guy to realize, "Hey, they can't see me behind this keyboard, and the chance of actual repercussions from what I'm about to say are almost zero... lolz watch this loosers!!!11!".

I've never been a member of any internet community where tardish toughguywannabe's didn't distort the signal to noise ratio.  On the plus side, it's fun to read sometimes.  When it's not, I don't.   :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: gyrene81 on June 14, 2013, 10:01:50 AM
it's the nature of the retardnet bud...anonymity removes the filters controlled by real world constraints.

might be a good time for htc to consider, no active subscription = no forum posting.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: dirtdart on June 14, 2013, 10:08:10 AM
This used to be a good place to improve your knowledge of the game. I recall recently a new guy posting about an accomplishment, now in a self aggrandizing manner, merely as a comment on progression of skill and gameplay. The flaming began almost instantly. I have learned so much from the forums. I hardly now post in them anymore given the sad nature of some folks to just continue to be negative.

Maybe there should be two member levels... how many posts and love muffin level.

Dirtdart
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: zack1234 on June 14, 2013, 12:17:26 PM
 :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Lusche on June 14, 2013, 12:25:30 PM
The forums are declining since 2008.

Now look at Zack's registration date.

Coincidence?

I think not....    :noid
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 14, 2013, 12:35:16 PM
The forums are declining since 2008.

Now look at Zack's registration date.

Coincidence?

I think not....    :noid


 :rofl :rofl

So Lusche in a way the Petri dish will eventually go, taking the bacteria which grew there with it?  :old:

I just wanted to clarify that I have met some fantastic people on the forums, intelligent, articulate and interesting, it's just for every one of those there seems to be about three arsemonkeys  :old:


I downloaded the pilots handbook, when you posted it... A few more trips to the loo, and I'll post my thoughts  :old:

What news from the Throne of Knowledge Dolby? Somewhat like the illegitimate lovechild of a back-alley affair betwixt Mosquito and Emil perhaps? Could this be the one British aircraft that Dr. Dolby might fly from time to time?  :rock





Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Zacherof on June 14, 2013, 12:35:30 PM
it's the nature of the retardnet bud...anonymity removes the filters controlled by real world constraints.

might be a good time for htc to consider, no active subscription = no forum posting.
why?
When I'm in the navy I'm not going to be able to play for some time so my account payer might cancel my sub.  But I'll for sure be able to access the Board. Should I be penalized?(someone for sure is going to say something :rofl)

I understand where your coming from. Maybe tweak it to allow post only by peoe you were active for atleast a year?
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: gyrene81 on June 14, 2013, 12:51:51 PM
no Zacherof, that would not accomplish anything. some of the worst dipsticks are former players who are just circling the gut wagons. that's not to say that there aren't some former players who don't contribute a great deal of knowledge and insight, because there are, and without them some discussions would just fail.

when you go into the navy, you should have plenty of more interesting things to do other than buzz around these forums posting silliness...
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Dragon on June 14, 2013, 12:52:55 PM
The forums are declining since 2008.

Now look at Zack's registration date.

Coincidence?

I think not....    :noid

Yeah, all Zacks fault.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: LeDragon on June 14, 2013, 12:54:29 PM
Yeah, all Zacks fault.

Says another guy from 2008.



























 :noid
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bj229r on June 14, 2013, 01:20:43 PM
If you're over the age of 17, there aren't too many discussions here that would interest you
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Larokkit on June 14, 2013, 01:28:49 PM
To me its like 200 , its degraded to the point of being sad . The recent slapfight your referring to is worse than useual though  imo. wouldnt  bother except for occasionally there are good interesting post re aircraft and such.
<S> shida
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: whiteman on June 14, 2013, 01:34:10 PM
my viewing here has gone down since there seems to be a few that post useless garbage for no other apparent reason other than to have a large post count. I spend most my time cruising the wish list and aircraft forums.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 14, 2013, 01:34:52 PM
To me its like 200 , its degraded to the point of being sad . The recent slapfight your referring to is worse than useual though  imo. wouldnt  bother except for occasionally there are good interesting post re aircraft and such.
<S> shida

I agree. I also think the next slapfight will be worse, and the one after that worse still...  :rolleyes:

<S> Rokkit.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: BiPoLaR on June 14, 2013, 01:47:47 PM
Muhammad Ali
Exactly what most of them are. Ali was nothing but talk and a whole lot of suck. Think he wouldve been known without that runny mouth he had? NOPE.

Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 14, 2013, 01:48:34 PM
Exactly what most of them are. Ali was nothing but talk and a whole lot of suck. Think he wouldve been known without that runny mouth he had? NOPE.


Hey Bip, you back flying?
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: BiPoLaR on June 14, 2013, 01:50:11 PM

Hey Bip, you back flying?
yeah, every once in a while. Depends on if I actually get that bored.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: MrKrabs on June 14, 2013, 02:31:58 PM
People primarily post meaningful stuff on their own squad sites...
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Arlo on June 14, 2013, 02:39:45 PM
People primarily post meaningful stuff on their own squad sites...

I think it depends on the subject and the op's need for attention. There's still some
relevant material being posted. For instance, I posted my suggestion for plane
additions based on not just my picks but other players in the wishlist sub-forum:

(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/Aircraft_of_Aces_High_II_003a2_zps763f9b60.png)
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/Aircraft_of_Aces_High_II_003b2_zps34cf72ff.png)

Reviews were mixed.  :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 14, 2013, 02:40:57 PM
One of my most vivid AH memories, winging with BiP at the furball lake  :rock

 :salute

Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bozon on June 14, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
Thank you but it wasn't really the purpose, just trying to get players interested and sharing information.

You're saying the 'other' thread hold more accessible interest, even though it reads like two gangs of grandmas standing on opposite sides of the street waving their handbags at each other?  :eek:

For some reason when I search I mostly get threads from ten years ago. They seem different to me. More aircraft discussion and ACM. A bit of smack talk for sure, but nowadays this seems to be everywhere

Maybe my tolerance has run out  :old:
The analogy is two guys having a vocal and "juicy" argument in the middle of the street and an interesting poster about the innerworking of some machine hanging on a dark corner of the street - of course the arguing pair will get a lot more attention than the poster from the random people passing by... :)

But you are correct - there used to be a lot more "professional" discussion on these boards, about history, technical plane details, aerodynamics and air combat tactics. Some of it slowed down because those who are interested in this have been around these boards for 10 years now and read it all and there are not enough new players to revive/repeat these discussions. In addition you have to remember that not all AH players are nerds like some of us.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: ink on June 14, 2013, 02:54:30 PM
I guess I will take the blame........ :o


cant help but speak my mind.

whether its here or in person. :aok
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Arlo on June 14, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
I guess I will take the blame........ :o


cant help but speak my mind.

whether its here or in person. :aok

Eh, it may have been going on longer than it shoulda but I reckon you're a good sort
once things get sorted out. Kinda like he friendships that came out of fistfights that
only went so far as to blacken some eyes (ok and maybe jettisoned a tooth or two).
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Changeup on June 14, 2013, 02:59:18 PM
I'm just guessing here, but I think keyboard commandoitis has been around since Gore invented the internet.  All it took was for one guy to realize, "Hey, they can't see me behind this keyboard, and the chance of actual repercussions from what I'm about to say are almost zero... lolz watch this loosers!!!11!".

I've never been a member of any internet community where tardish toughguywannabe's didn't distort the signal to noise ratio.  On the plus side, it's fun to read sometimes.  When it's not, I don't.   :)

Soooo very true.  It gives people an opportunity to be what they aren't in front of people they don't really know.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: ink on June 14, 2013, 03:00:34 PM
Eh, it may have been going on longer than it shoulda but I reckon you're a good sort
once things get sorted out. Kinda like he friendships that came out of fistfights that
only went so far as to blacken some eyes (ok and maybe jettisoned a tooth or two).

jettisoned a tooth or two....... :rofl



Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 14, 2013, 03:02:39 PM
I think it depends on the subject and the op's need for attention. There's still some
relevant material being posted. For instance, I posted my suggestion for plane
additions based on not just my picks but other players in the wishlist sub-forum:

(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/Aircraft_of_Aces_High_II_003a2_zps763f9b60.png)
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/Aircraft_of_Aces_High_II_003b2_zps34cf72ff.png)

Reviews were mixed.  :)

That's really nice Arlo  :aok


But you are correct - there used to be a lot more "professional" discussion on these boards, about history, technical plane details, aerodynamics and air combat tactics. Some of it slowed down because those who are interested in this have been around these boards for 10 years now and read it all and there are not enough new players to revive/repeat these discussions. In addition you have to remember that not all AH players are nerds like some of us.

Perhaps also people used to just play previously, without playing to get 'something' out of it like reputation or status. Another discouragement from helping people. Look how VolderMidway turned out  :lol


I guess I will take the blame........ :o


cant help but speak my mind.

whether its here or in person. :aok

Wasn't directed at you Brother Ink. You're a good sort.  :salute



Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Guppy35 on June 14, 2013, 04:39:39 PM
I don't believe anything has changed other than the turnover of players.  Having been around a while what I've noticed is the same questions get asked over and over.  Each new wave of players asks the same old stuff, except it's not old for them.   

If you've been around a while you've seen numerous latest and greatest players, latest and greatest squads and self proclaimed legends.  It's the same whines about gameplay, aircraft etc.

For the folks who stick around it becomes a question of how much you want to repeat yourself or participate in the same old discussions such as the one linked in your op.

As long as folks are having fun, I guess it's all good.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: ozrocker on June 14, 2013, 04:44:34 PM
The forums are declining since 2008.

Now look at Zack's registration date.

Coincidence?

I think not....    :noid
:rofl

<S> shida,
Seems to be same old, same old in the Forums.


                                                                                                                      :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: The Fugitive on June 14, 2013, 05:31:15 PM
The analogy is two guys having a vocal and "juicy" argument in the middle of the street and an interesting poster about the innerworking of some machine hanging on a dark corner of the street - of course the arguing pair will get a lot more attention than the poster from the random people passing by... :)

But you are correct - there used to be a lot more "professional" discussion on these boards, about history, technical plane details, aerodynamics and air combat tactics. Some of it slowed down because those who are interested in this have been around these boards for 10 years now and read it all and there are not enough new players to revive/repeat these discussions. In addition you have to remember that not all AH players are nerds like some of us.



Thats one of the reason why I haven't been doing many cartoons. The boards have become very much the "same old stuff". How many ways can you draw a cartoon about two guys going "DID SO!" "DID NOT!"  :devil

I also blame the loss of the "good discussions" about planes, tactics and WWII on the new player. Most of the new players are gamers looking for another game to play. Sure we get some "history" types now and then but no where near the numbers of gamers. Gamers are more interested in the "game", how to win, and if there are any "codes" available  :rolleyes: They don't care about the history, or tactics, how how such and such a plane should fly/handle. They pick the biggest baddest and go for it.

The boards, like the game is dieing a slow death.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 14, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
This thread makes me wonder:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.390.html

3992 views and 397 replies so far.


I post the original pilot's notes of the Westland Whirlwind (it's just an example (oh yeah, and a plug)):

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,313538.msg4621051.html#msg4621051

...and not one reply.


Is this forum now simply a soap opera for grown men, flaming, griefing, mocking and judging others? More smack talk than 1,000 Muhammad Alis locked in a cupboard! Is no one interested in aircraft or ACM anymore?

 :frown:




You gotta admit, the swim is catchy! :banana:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Shifty on June 14, 2013, 06:14:09 PM

Thats one of the reason why I haven't been doing many cartoons. The boards have become very much the "same old stuff". How many ways can you draw a cartoon about two guys going "DID SO!" "DID NOT!"  :devil

I also blame the loss of the "good discussions" about planes, tactics and WWII on the new player. Most of the new players are gamers looking for another game to play. Sure we get some "history" types now and then but no where near the numbers of gamers. Gamers are more interested in the "game", how to win, and if there are any "codes" available  :rolleyes: They don't care about the history, or tactics, how how such and such a plane should fly/handle. They pick the biggest baddest and go for it.

The boards, like the game is dieing a slow death.

I disagree I don't see the game or the boards dieing. This game has been around for a long time I still see people in it I remember from Air Warrior and Warbirds. I've been in AH for nearly 12 years now and for most of those years I keep reading about the death of AH. Yet every year it is still here. People come and go, people come and stay, people come and go and come back. Look at the resurgence of the 56th FG as proof. As long as HTC continues to add and improve I'll be here, probably longer than my eyesight holds out. Every year to year and a half there's a new crop of high intensity BBS personalities. They think they have to post in every thread and every thought they have no matter how interesting or uninteresting must be shared with the whole community. Occasionally people that know better do or say something they wish they hadn't in the game or on the boards. Occasionally people get involved in a purse fight so intense it makes all participants look foolish. It really doesn't matter because within a couple of days there will be a fresh steaming pile for everyone to sniff point at and argue over. The current combatants and objects of everyone's attention will be forgotten so energy can be spent on the newest bit of AH drama. This game these boards and all this crap isn't going anywhere anytime soon.  :D
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Stampf on June 14, 2013, 06:17:22 PM
I disagree I don't see the game or the boards dieing. This game has been around for a long time I still see people in it I remember from Air Warrior and Warbirds. I've been in AH for nearly 12 years now and for most of those years I keep reading about the death of AH. Yet every year it is still here. People come and go, people come and stay, people come and go and come back. Look at the resurgence of the 56th FG as proof. As long as HTC continues to add and improve I'll be here, probably longer than my eyesight holds out. Every year to year and a half there's a new crop of high intensity BBS personalities. They think they have to post in every thread and every thought they have no matter how interesting or uninteresting must be shared with the whole community. Occasionally people that know better do or say something they wish they hadn't in the game or on the boards. Occasionally people get involved in a purse fight so intense it makes all participants look foolish. It really doesn't matter because within a couple of days there will be a fresh steaming pile for everyone to sniff point at and argue over. The current combatants and objects of everyone's attention will be forgotten so energy can be spent on the newest bit of AH drama. This game these boards and all this crap isn't going anywhere anytime soon.  :D

Werd.

Every morning I get up and check the price of Scotch and Aviation fuel.  Neither are getting cheaper.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Babalonian on June 14, 2013, 06:35:59 PM
I finished moving my office, I'll be back to contributing my 2-cents 5-6hours a day, 5-days a week, real soon.  :o

Werd.

Every morning I get up and check the price of Scotch and Aviation fuel.  Neither are getting cheaper.

If you got 50-grand lyeing around in gas money, like maybe in a drawer somewhere, I know where there's a jet capable of mach 0.9 that we can go take up and fly around the landing pattern... maybe twice....
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Oldman731 on June 14, 2013, 06:39:53 PM
I disagree I don't see the game or the boards dieing. This game has been around for a long time I still see people in it I remember from Air Warrior and Warbirds. I've been in AH for nearly 12 years now and for most of those years I keep reading about the death of AH. Yet every year it is still here. People come and go, people come and stay, people come and go and come back. Look at the resurgence of the 56th FG as proof. As long as HTC continues to add and improve I'll be here, probably longer than my eyesight holds out. Every year to year and a half there's a new crop of high intensity BBS personalities. They think they have to post in every thread and every thought they have no matter how interesting or uninteresting must be shared with the whole community. Occasionally people that know better do or say something they wish they hadn't in the game or on the boards. Occasionally people get involved in a purse fight so intense it makes all participants look foolish. It really doesn't matter because within a couple of days there will be a fresh steaming pile for everyone to sniff point at and argue over. The current combatants and objects of everyone's attention will be forgotten so energy can be spent on the newest bit of AH drama. This game these boards and all this crap isn't going anywhere anytime soon.


Agreed.

I'm still having fun.

- oldman
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Guppy35 on June 14, 2013, 06:51:10 PM
Quote from 2003 that I responded to then.  Same old same old.
Originally posted by beet1e
"MuckMAW. It's easy to understand.  There is a huge swathe in this community that has no interest in WW2, no interest in learning ACM (which is why you see all the HO) and who just want to pummel a fire button and make stuff go boom. The Spit and LA7 are the easymode planes. P51 is a good survivalist plane if not quite as easy, but still easy enough. Just as folks can't be bothered to spend more than 5 minutes to get to a fight, so are they victims from their own lack of attention span when it comes to learning new ideas/planes. So instead, they'll just choose an easymode ride.

Do not confuse the fact that these oft chosen planes feature so prominently in the obituaries with the reason why they are chosen in the first place. More of them get killed because so many idiots fly them. Look at the kill stats for any pilot ranked in the top 200. In most cases the P51, Spit ix and LA7 will be in the top 5 in his list of fighter kills."


Sound familiar Fugi? :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Lusche on June 14, 2013, 06:51:39 PM
  :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: NikonGuy on June 14, 2013, 08:01:47 PM
<S> Shida

Yeah man the forums are a joke .. there is some good info for sure but mostly 12 year olds or 40 year olds acting like 12 year olds puffing theirs chests.  I must admit I rarely post due to the fact that I know a majority of the replies are going to be nothing but BS smack talking attention seeking bananas that thrive on sabotaging all the good within a thread that may well be informative.

I think there should be more moderators that just delete posts should they sway off topic into personal abuse.  Its unacceptable behaviour ...

Am now awaiting a 12yo to reply to this to call me names and throw stones ..   :bolt:

The DA is the same now .. I remember years ago you could go in there and meet up with people and learn/teach, sure there was the odd idiot but generally people wanted to learn acm.  Yesterday I was in there trying to fight a guy and had 4 trying to pick me from both countries.  When I merely asked guys can I please fight this guy 1v1 I got a "whaaa .. go cry somewhere else".  Simply requesting some time you get abuse.

It would be amazing if somehow there could be two arenas where the kids could go and do their HOing picking BS but also have an arena where only the serious, interested guys could go to duel, no perk planes, no 25k temps screaming down and picking you on takeoff blah blah .. I know a pipe dream but it would be nice to be able to go to a place where you know the other guy is as interested as you in a GOOD fight.

Sorry may be a little off topic :P

<S>
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Larokkit on June 14, 2013, 08:06:01 PM
"Exactly what most of them are. Ali was nothing but talk and a whole lot of suck. Think he wouldve been known without that runny mouth he had? NOPE."


  you must not have watched many of his fights.I did growing up, he was amazing.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: The Fugitive on June 14, 2013, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from 2003 that I responded to then.  Same old same old.
Originally posted by beet1e
"MuckMAW. It's easy to understand.  There is a huge swathe in this community that has no interest in WW2, no interest in learning ACM (which is why you see all the HO) and who just want to pummel a fire button and make stuff go boom. The Spit and LA7 are the easymode planes. P51 is a good survivalist plane if not quite as easy, but still easy enough. Just as folks can't be bothered to spend more than 5 minutes to get to a fight, so are they victims from their own lack of attention span when it comes to learning new ideas/planes. So instead, they'll just choose an easymode ride.

Do not confuse the fact that these oft chosen planes feature so prominently in the obituaries with the reason why they are chosen in the first place. More of them get killed because so many idiots fly them. Look at the kill stats for any pilot ranked in the top 200. In most cases the P51, Spit ix and LA7 will be in the top 5 in his list of fighter kills."


Sound familiar Fugi? :)


Certainly does, and bettle hasn't been seen in years.

Those of us who stay are the hard core players. We play for the fights and even if we only find one or two a night it is what brings us back because its enough. We can find fun in the many things available in this game.

The problem is we are quickly approaching the population/kd numbers we had 13 years ago. Of those numbers from years ago the vast majority where hard core/ history type players. You flew and fought looking to beat guys like wldthing, bettle, blumax, and many others. At least that was how I went into it. They weren't my "heros" but I certainly wanted to get good enough to beat them.

Today the vast majority are players who look toward running in hordes to grab bases and win the war as quick as they can.... or at least before mommy comes in and tells them its time for bed  :neener: These players get bored doing the same NOE missions time after time and go looking for the "next best thing" in gaming. I'd be willing to bet the turn over of players these day is pretty high. Players just aren't staying like they use to.

My son is a hard core gamer. He has all the game systems, all the most popular games and will use his vacation time to run marathon gaming sessions to beat a new game in as few sittings as possible. I've asked him to look at Aces High and tell me what he thought. The only thing he liked about it was the actual fighting. Flying too a fight is a waste of "game time" flying back??? Why bother! Whats the object of the game..... just fight?  :rolleyes:

Like Fester posted in the other thread, running "grinds" to finish side quest and such is an attractive option for these players, there is an END GAME. Fighting doesn't end, there is always another fight. To a gamer there is no end game. So fighting isn't that attractive to a gamer. Capture a base... end game. Win the war.... end game.

Why do you think COD and WoW have "new updates" with these big changes, new worlds, different eras, different weapons? Because they KNOW the players will get bored and move on. If they bring out the new stuff often enough they can keep them happy and playing. Unfortunately that is how todays gamers are. That is the gaming world they were brought up in and it is how they are "trained".

Don't get me wrong, I love this game and will be here until they close the doors.... just like Air Warrior (they said that one wouldn't die too). I thing the reason the numbers are dropping as slow as they are is because of the awesome people at HTC. They have put out one heck of a product, I just don't think it is enough to KEEP todays players on board.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Guppy35 on June 14, 2013, 10:23:27 PM
It's fun reading my old posts.  You mention your son Fugi.

I said this about my son in 2003 :)

 "After a week in the MA he'd become a pork em, capture their bases kinda, win the reset player, much to my disappointment.

NO MORE!   I dragged him in this week and now he's headed in on his own.  Tonite he was talking so fast and doing so much hand flying, that I couldn't keep up with his story, but it had lots to do with flying an F4F with references to 'dragging Zekes" and 'shooting em off another F4F's tail" etc etc.  Absoultely no mention of bombers, or porking their bases to get back at em for porking ours, kinda talk.  Gun convergence, and how to best use the Wildcat was what he wanted to know."


It's still on us to teach em right :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: BiPoLaR on June 14, 2013, 10:38:11 PM
One of my most vivid AH memories, winging with BiP at the furball lake  :rock

 :salute


How loudly was I screaming?
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: masterjock on June 15, 2013, 12:51:37 AM
Thank you but it wasn't really the purpose, just trying to get players interested and sharing information.

You're saying the 'other' thread hold more accessible interest, even though it reads like two gangs of grandmas standing on opposite sides of the street waving their handbags at each other?  :eek:


For some reason when I search I mostly get threads from ten years ago. They seem different to me. More aircraft discussion and ACM. A bit of smack talk for sure, but nowadays this seems to be everywhere

Maybe my tolerance has run out :old:
 triton28, ack ack, zoney are some of these folks that you speak of. The negativeness and the judging of others these 3 take the cake.

Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 15, 2013, 02:13:17 AM
<S> shida,
Seems to be same old, same old in the Forums.


                                                                                                                      :cheers: Oz

<Salute> Ozrocker!

Actually I'm afraid to think it is going more & more in the direction that I don't like.   :uhoh


<S> Shida

Yeah man the forums are a joke .. there is some good info for sure but mostly 12 year olds or 40 year olds acting like 12 year olds puffing theirs chests.  I must admit I rarely post due to the fact that I know a majority of the replies are going to be nothing but BS smack talking attention seeking bananas that thrive on sabotaging all the good within a thread that may well be informative.

I think there should be more moderators that just delete posts should they sway off topic into personal abuse.  Its unacceptable behaviour ...

Am now awaiting a 12yo to reply to this to call me names and throw stones ..   :bolt:

The DA is the same now .. I remember years ago you could go in there and meet up with people and learn/teach, sure there was the odd idiot but generally people wanted to learn acm.  Yesterday I was in there trying to fight a guy and had 4 trying to pick me from both countries.  When I merely asked guys can I please fight this guy 1v1 I got a "whaaa .. go cry somewhere else".  Simply requesting some time you get abuse.

It would be amazing if somehow there could be two arenas where the kids could go and do their HOing picking BS but also have an arena where only the serious, interested guys could go to duel, no perk planes, no 25k temps screaming down and picking you on takeoff blah blah .. I know a pipe dream but it would be nice to be able to go to a place where you know the other guy is as interested as you in a GOOD fight.

Sorry may be a little off topic :P

<S>



<Salute> NikonGuy!

I think the knee-jerk "cry / whine" gambit is just the fastest way of saying: "shut up, this game is all about me and I'll do exactly what I want when I want to do it". I'm afraid the days of the Breakfast Club at the Furball Lake are long gone. Shame.



How loudly was I screaming?

Actually it was rather the other players screaming. Never have I seen anyone dispensing ego / reality checks with more surgical efficiency. BiPoLaR here actually made a guy log out after a 60 second transmission on range. I never saw him since, lolz.






Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: zack1234 on June 15, 2013, 03:00:20 AM
Get a life Shida!
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 15, 2013, 04:19:31 AM
Get a life Shida!

 :lol

Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Masherbrum on June 15, 2013, 07:56:24 AM
<S> Shida

Yeah man the forums are a joke .. there is some good info for sure but mostly 12 year olds or 40 year olds acting like 12 year olds puffing theirs chests.  I must admit I rarely post due to the fact that I know a majority of the replies are going to be nothing but BS smack talking attention seeking bananas that thrive on sabotaging all the good within a thread that may well be informative.

I think there should be more moderators that just delete posts should they sway off topic into personal abuse.  Its unacceptable behaviour ...

Am now awaiting a 12yo to reply to this to call me names and throw stones ..   :bolt:

The DA is the same now .. I remember years ago you could go in there and meet up with people and learn/teach, sure there was the odd idiot but generally people wanted to learn acm.  Yesterday I was in there trying to fight a guy and had 4 trying to pick me from both countries.  When I merely asked guys can I please fight this guy 1v1 I got a "whaaa .. go cry somewhere else".  Simply requesting some time you get abuse.

It would be amazing if somehow there could be two arenas where the kids could go and do their HOing picking BS but also have an arena where only the serious, interested guys could go to duel, no perk planes, no 25k temps screaming down and picking you on takeoff blah blah .. I know a pipe dream but it would be nice to be able to go to a place where you know the other guy is as interested as you in a GOOD fight.

Sorry may be a little off topic :P

<S>

Concise and to the point, excellent post.   The only ones who would disagree, would be the culprits themselves Nikon.

It was great flying FSO again with 9 GIAP.     :salute
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: The Fugitive on June 15, 2013, 08:53:31 AM
It's fun reading my old posts.  You mention your son Fugi.

I said this about my son in 2003 :)

 "After a week in the MA he'd become a pork em, capture their bases kinda, win the reset player, much to my disappointment.

NO MORE!   I dragged him in this week and now he's headed in on his own.  Tonite he was talking so fast and doing so much hand flying, that I couldn't keep up with his story, but it had lots to do with flying an F4F with references to 'dragging Zekes" and 'shooting em off another F4F's tail" etc etc.  Absoultely no mention of bombers, or porking their bases to get back at em for porking ours, kinda talk.  Gun convergence, and how to best use the Wildcat was what he wanted to know."


It's still on us to teach em right :)

And how old was he then, late teen? Mine is 27, and has been a gamers since he was 4. He is a computer programer for a software company and is looking to get into programming games. Gaming is what he does, period. Your son grew up in a house full of the "history" surrounding the era this game plays in so it was only natural for him to follow you. My son didn't have that background as I'm the odd one that likes history a bit. I don't have books and books on the subject, nor did I do trips to talk with spit pilots and other squadrons in my youth so they was none of that history here. To my son it is just a game.

Now look at today's people. How much WWII history is covered in school these days? Very little, so nothing to peek a youngsters interest. How about movies? Can you picture anyone in their 20's and under watching Where Eagles Dare, Casablanca, The Great escape, Hell in the Pacific, even Schindler's list tho it's newer? I KNOW my kids wouldn't. Today, people want CGI and big bangs, story is unimportant.

While in the old days we had boasting, and calling people out over the radios and on the boards it was a bit more civil, now it has all fallen to a much more childish rant. "I PWND's YOU!"  I have only a few people on "ignore" and so when I scroll through the boards almost half of the posts are "You are ignoring....." what does that tell you about the boards?

If we go by Lusche's graph, and things continue the way they are we should be BELOW the numbers we had in mid 1999 by Christmas next year. How much do you think the cost of running HTC has gone up since 1999? How long until the money no longer makes since for them?
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: ozrocker on June 15, 2013, 09:35:41 AM
Just read again what Guppy posted on page 3 to Fugi Sir :aok
Tis the same old  :old: forum that we've all come to love.
Same stories, different times :salute

Hey NikonGuy,  :neener: :neener:
 :banana: :salute


                                                                                                                                                       :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: SAJ73 on June 15, 2013, 12:06:46 PM
<S> Shida

Yeah man the forums are a joke .. there is some good info for sure but mostly 12 year olds or 40 year olds acting like 12 year olds puffing theirs chests.  I must admit I rarely post due to the fact that I know a majority of the replies are going to be nothing but BS smack talking attention seeking bananas that thrive on sabotaging all the good within a thread that may well be informative.

I think there should be more moderators that just delete posts should they sway off topic into personal abuse.  Its unacceptable behaviour ...

Am now awaiting a 12yo to reply to this to call me names and throw stones ..   :bolt:

The DA is the same now .. I remember years ago you could go in there and meet up with people and learn/teach, sure there was the odd idiot but generally people wanted to learn acm.  Yesterday I was in there trying to fight a guy and had 4 trying to pick me from both countries.  When I merely asked guys can I please fight this guy 1v1 I got a "whaaa .. go cry somewhere else".  Simply requesting some time you get abuse.

It would be amazing if somehow there could be two arenas where the kids could go and do their HOing picking BS but also have an arena where only the serious, interested guys could go to duel, no perk planes, no 25k temps screaming down and picking you on takeoff blah blah .. I know a pipe dream but it would be nice to be able to go to a place where you know the other guy is as interested as you in a GOOD fight.

Sorry may be a little off topic :P

<S>

This has become the truth, the sadly truth.
I see the same things more often, trolling and personal attacks has become the daily deal. And the DA I don't even care to visit anymore, and I used to fly in DA all the time before. The only troll we had in DA back then was Charger vulching the field in his F4U4 on occations.  :lol
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: LCADolby on June 15, 2013, 12:11:29 PM

What news from the Throne of Knowledge Dolby? Somewhat like the illegitimate lovechild of a back-alley affair betwixt Mosquito and Emil perhaps? Could this be the one British aircraft that Dr. Dolby might fly from time to time?  :rock



I noticed that when carrying bombs it says not to do any aerobatics or exceed 350mph in a dive... I sense a mountain of snapped off parts forming already  :eek:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 15, 2013, 02:16:04 PM
This has become the truth, the sadly truth.
I see the same things more often, trolling and personal attacks has become the daily deal. And the DA I don't even care to visit anymore, and I used to fly in DA all the time before. The only troll we had in DA back then was Charger vulching the field in his F4U4 on occations.  :lol

I use to fly in the DA a lot also.  Matter of fact it's where I met a really nice guy named nrshida.  He never talked, but showed me cool stuff and was just generally all around awesome nice. Then somehow things deteriorated to where we won't even speak to each other.  I suppose that's just life... many good things deteriorate over time.  Just like any natural process making room for the next one.  Wear and tear takes its toll. :frown:

Some can overcome this rather negative tendency, with strength of will and character, that is.  :old:

 :salute nrshida :rock

 :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 15, 2013, 03:25:16 PM
I noticed that when carrying bombs it says not to do any aerobatics or exceed 350mph in a dive... I sense a mountain of snapped off parts forming already  :eek:

Yeah it wasn't designed for bombs, that was an adaptation.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 15, 2013, 03:48:08 PM
... and some can't. :frown:

 :salute nrshida :rock

 :cheers:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Gixer on June 15, 2013, 06:20:19 PM
Is no one interested in aircraft or ACM anymore?

Doesn't seem so, which is reflected in player numbers, and Snail's graph. Other reasons imho is that due to slow game development over past 10 years doesn't leave much to talk about which hasn't already been discussed 100 times before. Also too many egos and internet tough guys, one squad in particular likes to think of itself as the "Seal Smacking" squad which ownz everyone either in MA, CH200 or forums which does nothing at all for the game especially for new guys.

Personally I got bored with forums when O'Club got muted around 2003-2004 to where it is now and most of the  discussion revolves around guns,cars and sports. General, Aircraft/Vehicles  just repeat similar subjects on a consistent basis with the usual contributors trying to dominate any threads with their opinion of "I don't have to be right, I just have to say it" attitude.

All of which kills off discussion in the forums.


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: BiPoLaR on June 15, 2013, 07:02:03 PM

Actually it was rather the other players screaming. Never have I seen anyone dispensing ego / reality checks with more surgical efficiency. BiPoLaR here actually made a guy log out after a 60 second transmission on range. I never saw him since, lolz.

Now I know you weren't flying with me. The only surgical efficiency I have is whacking trees =/
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bj229r on June 15, 2013, 08:59:50 PM
Doesn't seem so, which is reflected in player numbers, and Snail's graph. Other reasons imho is that due to slow game development over past 10 years doesn't leave much to talk about which hasn't already been discussed 100 times before. Also too many egos and internet tough guys, one squad in particular likes to think of itself as the "Seal Smacking" squad which ownz everyone either in MA, CH200 or forums which does nothing at all for the game especially for new guys.

Personally I got bored with forums when O'Club got muted around 2003-2004 to where it is now and most of the  discussion revolves around guns,cars and sports. General, Aircraft/Vehicles  just repeat similar subjects on a consistent basis with the usual contributors trying to dominate any threads with their opinion of "I don't have to be right, I just have to say it" attitude.

All of which kills off discussion in the forums.


<S>...-Gixer

was gonna mention that as well. A myriad of things USED to be discussed in the O'club before the 'great purge' 4-5 years ago. Those same people (intelligent adults, for the most part) came here as much, or MORE, for the O'club as much as anything else, and once here, they contributed to the other sub-forums as well. After enough 'rule #4....#23...#5, etc, they left completely, and we're left with Midway and the 3 word story game
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Zacherof on June 16, 2013, 03:19:21 AM
no Zacherof, that would not accomplish anything. some of the worst dipsticks are former players who are just circling the gut wagons. that's not to say that there aren't some former players who don't contribute a great deal of knowledge and insight, because there are, and without them some discussions would just fail.

when you go into the navy, you should have plenty of more interesting things to do other than buzz around these forums posting silliness...
I come here more often than Facebook. Way more entertaining and I learn a thing or two.
And who knows what will happen in 3 months.

Aces high kept me outa of trouble for the most part in my youth, and 7 years later, made a name for myself while meeting some awesome people. I'll be back in the MA for sure tho. No matter what happens.

If you see an SBD at 10k going to a horde it's probably me :D
 :salute
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 16, 2013, 04:09:21 AM
I use to fly in the DA a lot also.  Matter of fact it's where I met a really nice guy named nrshida.  He never talked, but showed me cool stuff and was just generally all around awesome nice. Then somehow things deteriorated to where we won't even speak to each other.  I suppose that's just life... many good things deteriorate over time.  Just like any natural process making room for the next one.  Wear and tear takes its toll. :frown:

Some can overcome this rather negative tendency, with strength of will and character, that is.  :old:

 :salute nrshida :rock

 :)




Midway,

I'm sorry if this comes across as nasty, it is more motivated by my own limitations but I just don't want to associate with you. I find your activities in AH disturbing, objectionable, weak of character and dishonest, both to yourself and to others. You are all about making yourself feel better by making others feel worse and I think that is awful and a really ugly facet of human behaviour.

I tried in your first weeks here to encourage you to enjoy the activity for what it is by trying to teach you some basics but I failed. I therefore choose to insulate myself from you and players like you. I won't let you ruin this hobby for me.

You've already decided that Midway > nrshida, by your own reckoning of all things so please, just leave me alone.


Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: zack1234 on June 16, 2013, 04:25:01 AM
I love you both in a manly way only :old:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 16, 2013, 07:35:36 AM



Midway,

I'm sorry if this comes across as nasty, it is more motivated by my own limitations but I just don't want to associate with you. I find your activities in AH disturbing, objectionable, weak of character and dishonest, both to yourself and to others. You are all about making yourself feel better by making others feel worse and I think that is awful and a really ugly facet of human behaviour.

I tried in your first weeks here to encourage you to enjoy the activity for what it is by trying to teach you some basics but I failed. I therefore choose to insulate myself from you and players like you. I won't let you ruin this hobby for me.

You've already decided that Midway > nrshida, by your own reckoning of all things so please, just leave me alone.




Well you are wrong about your "findings" but I forgive you for your misperception.  We all make mistakes including me and I'm sure I have misperceived others as well, on occasion.  Too bad things had to deteriorate to this level with you and me.  I still and always will appreciate your help and insight and am disappointed by this situation in which you seem unable and unwilling to see my true nature and sincerity.

And yes, I do think I can win the majority of fights with you now, but sadly those victories are hollowed out by my disappointment of your misperceptions of me.  :frown:

 :salute


<3 nrshida
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 16, 2013, 07:43:32 AM
I love you both in a manly way only :old:

The feeling is quite mutual.  :old:
Please offer nrshida his favorite meat pie and tell him I sent it.  :old:
I say the GFC are a great group of manly fighters and much appreciated.  :old:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: SPKmes on June 16, 2013, 07:48:29 AM

And yes, I do think I can win the majority of fights with you now, but sadly those victories are hollowed out by my disappointment of your misperceptions of me.  :frown:

 :salute


<3 nrshida

I need to ask this ...purely because ....well, just because ... with this statement above... if 10 different planes from the hanger were to be used one after the other ..... would this still ring true?
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Myg on June 16, 2013, 07:50:40 AM
Midway, maybe there is some part of your personality you are hiding which causes people to get misperceptions of you, if you are genuinely trying to be otherwise.

Because I have to admit, the more I read stuff from you; the more I shudder. Although I can tell from your otherwise apparent consistency that you do not try to mean it.

It could be as simple as accepting that part of yourself would just simply fix the way you present yourself and voila, everyone would see you as you picture yourself  :)

Of course, things never translate instantly, but it could be a start?
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: zack1234 on June 16, 2013, 08:10:49 AM
Midway is awesome and should never change :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 16, 2013, 08:28:59 AM
Midway, maybe there is some part of your personality you are hiding which causes people to get misperceptions of you, if you are genuinely trying to be otherwise.

Because I have to admit, the more I read stuff from you; the more I shudder. Although I can tell from your otherwise apparent consistency that you do not try to mean it.

It could be as simple as accepting that part of yourself would just simply fix the way you present yourself and voila, everyone would see you as you picture yourself  :)

Of course, things never translate instantly, but it could be a start?

Likely true, but a good "presenter" of myself I admittedly am not.  I simply am who I am and do get misinterpreted by many, but only get disappointed by a few when that happens. Nrshida being one.  Can't really think of many others where I feel this disappointment, which tells me generally I'm fine with how I present myself not being an expert at it.

I suppose my talking too often is a big part of being misinterpreted.  If I said very little, few would be able to misinterpreted what little I would say. I admit I like to talk and think out loud as much as that irritates some people.

However I do hear from many that they like what I say, most of the time.  :)

...and the back and forth can be fun.   :aok
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Myg on June 16, 2013, 08:30:46 AM
Midway is awesome and should never change :)

I disagree, I think that for his sake; he would be better off if he wasn't seen as "something" to the community, and just seen as himself. The "village idiot" comment earlier hints towards that.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 16, 2013, 08:31:43 AM
I need to ask this ...purely because ....well, just because ... with this statement above... if 10 different planes from the hanger were to be used one after the other ..... would this still ring true?


I don't know but I'll guess with at least half of the 10, yes. Ask Changeup what he thinks... we recently dueled in ponies and jugs.  :D
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 16, 2013, 08:35:28 AM
I disagree, I think that for his sake; he would be better off if he wasn't seen as "something" to the community, and just seen as himself. The "village idiot" comment earlier hints towards that.

Zack is more awesome than me, that is true.  :old:

Myg, I do know that I can be silent, disappear, be the quiet mystery pwner, interact with just a few, be like most people, not say anything controversial like the underlined word, not risk getting misinterpreted, etc... but that would be boring.  :D
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Myg on June 16, 2013, 08:38:18 AM
Likely true, but a good "presenter" of myself I admittedly am not.  I simply am who I am and do get misinterpreted by many, but only get disappointed by a few when that happens. Nrshida being one.  Can't really think of many others where I feel this disappointment, which tells me generally I'm fine with how I present myself not being an expert at it.

I suppose my talking too often is a big part of being misinterpreted.  If I said very little, few would be able to misinterpreted what little I would say. I admit I like to talk and think out loud as much as that irritates some people.

However I do hear from many that they like what I say, most of the time.  :)

...and the back and forth can be fun.   :aok

Midway, you are stuck in a recursive state of mind. You box yourself in mentally and when you talk you box yourself in more, that is why you recognise talking as your own undoing, yet you have to do it to make other people understand it, which is inherently pointless. I think a good start is to recognise that its not talking that's boxing you in at all, there are plenty of good talkers out there on this forum who do well with it, its how you perceive what your talking does. If you think your talking is your undoing, it will be your undoing because, you will look for and seek your own undoing in it.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 16, 2013, 08:53:36 AM
Midway, you are stuck in a recursive state of mind. You box yourself in mentally and when you talk you box yourself in more, that is why you recognise talking as your own undoing, yet you have to do it to make other people understand it, which is inherently pointless. I think a good start is to recognise that its not talking that's boxing you in at all, there are plenty of good talkers out there on this forum who do well with it, its how you perceive what your talking does. If you think your talking is your undoing, it will be your undoing because, you will look for and seek your own undoing in it.

Talking is fun, on occasion, as is our back and forth here. If I had not said anything your somewhat deep thinking post wouldn't be here to be appreciated and I/we wouldn't be able to learn from it.  :aok

I admit I'm still trying to figure it out as I'm not the brightest bulb in the room at the moment.  :headscratch:

Zack, a little help please.  :old:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Myg on June 16, 2013, 08:55:53 AM
Talking is fun, on occasion, as is our back and forth here. If I had not said anything your somewhat deep thinking post wouldn't be here to be appreciated and I/we wouldn't be able to learn from it.  :aok

I admit I'm still trying to figure it out as I'm not the brightest bulb in the room at the moment.  :headscratch:

Zack, a little help please.  :old:

In moments like this, don't talk about it; just think about it. Externalizing things is sometimes used as a defense mechanism (quite valid as well, infact it always is a defense mechanism) but it can stop you from learning what you need to learn.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Nath[BDP] on June 16, 2013, 09:16:04 AM
FYI:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,162018.0.html
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: LCADolby on June 16, 2013, 09:28:29 AM
FYI:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,162018.0.html

So the forums continue to peak and trough. ~
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Myg on June 16, 2013, 09:29:28 AM
FYI:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,162018.0.html

"Externalizing things is sometimes used as a defense mechanism (quite valid as well, infact it always is a defense mechanism) but it can stop you from learning what you need to learn."

Maybe that's why things haven't changed for the better?

They ignore our complaints as to the degredation of the game, yet they give out about our degredation? Didn't HT himself give out about the behaviour of people here recently, within the last year or so?

We understand the context of the game, and the quality of people who are seeked out to play it, but how does that explain all the kids we had here years ago and "titanic Tuesdays" as well as the "broz" and "trolls" which naturally come with the more younger ecosystem?

Aces High really needs a more valid route to keep the "undesirables" out, if they really expect to keep player QA, maybe a higher price? Or some sort of photo Id on signup? <--- this really belongs in the wishlist forum.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: zack1234 on June 16, 2013, 09:33:37 AM
I disagree, I think that for his sake; he would be better off if he wasn't seen as "something" to the community, and just seen as himself. The "village idiot" comment earlier hints towards that.

How dare you !!!!!!

The title of "Village Idiot" is mine and everyone knows I have got this title through many years of toil and strife :old:

Its a outrage and Midway has no right to my crown at all even though he is awesome :cry
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Myg on June 16, 2013, 09:36:50 AM
How dare you !!!!!!

The title of "Village Idiot" is mine and everyone knows I have got this title through many years of toil and strife :old:

Its a outrage and Midway has no right to my crown at all even though he is awesome :cry

Well, I hope you can throw me in with that lot when HT gets a hold of me.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: zack1234 on June 16, 2013, 09:49:58 AM
He will never get hold of you because you are awesome :old:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Zacherof on June 16, 2013, 03:22:12 PM
Zack doesn't know how to check his 6 :old:
that's how he got a tater in his arse :neener:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: SPKmes on June 16, 2013, 03:23:28 PM
is it just me or is zack and midway melding
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 16, 2013, 04:30:06 PM
is it just me or is zack and midway melding

Zack is awesomer. :old:
I am but a cheap imitation of his prowess. :old:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bj229r on June 16, 2013, 10:21:46 PM
FYI:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,162018.0.html
That was a damn fine thread, a few insults which Skuzzy found the need to mod, but overall the quality of the discussion is LIGHT years ahead of what has some to be the norm now...this post by the venerable Toad exemplifies a decade-old debate (he refers to a map which Hitech felt harmed overall gameplay...it had a furball isl;and in the middle, which looks quite similar to the DA Lake)
Quote
I think the issue is pretty clearly defined now that we have a FighterTown in the MA.

There can be absolutely no doubt that players in FT do not affect the Capture/Reset gameplay model of the MA.  Players in the FT area are no factor in winning the war. Further, you don't see players in FT posting the non-stop "join my mission" stuff.

OTOH, it seems that the idea of players just "mindlessly furballing" in the FT is anathema to some of the base capture crowd.

It's been pointed out several times that the map can be reset and the war "won" without any bases in FT changing hands.

So why can't the Capture/Reset crowd focus on that aspect of MA gameplay and leave FT out of it?

I'm a furballer; cheerfully admit it. I think this map is the best thing to happen to AH gameplay in (at the minimum) last two years.

The Capture/Reset crowd has a huge 512x512 map to wage their war upon, to enjoy their particular version of gameplay. If they leave FT alone, they do not affect the Furball gameplay in any fashion.

The Furball crowd has a tiny area on that map in which to enjoy their favorite sport. They do not affect the Capture/Reset gameplay in any fashion.

By definition, the Furball crowd, confined to a tiny, nearly inaccessible area on the map cannot "grief" the Capture/Reset players.

The converse is not true. The Capture/Reset crowd can and does "grief" the Furball players.


All that is required is for the Capture/Reset players to have some respect for people that choose to furball. That is the crux of the issue.

As for finiding 1v1's, that is precisely what the DA is for. The FT area is for taking any fight that comes your way. Odds don't matter. Plane types don't matter. Only the FIGHT matters. Obviously it's not for everyone. I personally find it the most exciting AH gameplay available. I generally favor the F4F; landing two kills in it after combat in that situation is much more satisfactory than landing 10 kills in a late war plane in the MA or in FT itself.

I go for the challenge. I get shot down a lot. But if you want to improve SA, improve your lead turns, your gunnery, your tactics.... it's the place to go because the action is non-stop.

Sure, there are the players that stay up high using some high performance plane as their crutch and just cherry pick the low fights. There are some elements of the MA, some personality types that will always be with us.

But if you're willing to hang it all out... there's nothing close.

I love it.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Changeup on June 16, 2013, 10:49:09 PM
FYI:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,162018.0.html

It hasn't changed because it's the phenomenon of the intardnet.  You can say what you want, to whomever you want, for whatever reason you want.  Decorum goes flying out the door
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Bobcat81 on June 16, 2013, 11:50:55 PM
I suppose my talking too often is a big part of being misinterpreted.
(http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w614/Bobcat812/lZUTs_zps97c5e17c.gif)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Guppy35 on June 17, 2013, 02:17:13 PM
One thing that has changed.  We've never had a village idiot on these boards with such stamina as the one we have now.

In that regard there is little point in trying to start any kind of conversation as they tend to end up in the same place every time regardless of the original topic.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bj229r on June 17, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
One thing that has changed.  We've never had a village idiot on these boards with such stamina as the one we have now.

In that regard there is little point in trying to start any kind of conversation as they tend to end up in the same place every time regardless of the original topic.
I'll agree with that....a handful of wannabes following closely
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Arlo on June 17, 2013, 04:14:12 PM
One thing that has changed.  We've never had a village idiot on these boards with such stamina as the one we have now.

In that regard there is little point in trying to start any kind of conversation as they tend to end up in the same place every time regardless of the original topic.

(http://myheartistheprisonerofmysoul.com/pages/thanksgiving/i_m_thankful_ben_files/image001.jpg)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Myg on June 17, 2013, 04:42:11 PM
Midway is an enigma wrapped in a mystery, and only he can unravel it; but it would be easier if you actually listened, midway. You might hear something that will start the process for you.

The kind of thing you got going on in your head, is like having a wild animal on steroids let loose on your thoughts. The moment something goes in, it shreds it and throws it back out at us again and the best you can do is make sure it doesn't fling it's feces.

Its a really sad, painful and lonely way to exist I bet.

But there is always hope middy, but you need to look inside yourself and tame that animal so you can get back to using all that brain matter properly again.

Then you will never feel the way you do, again!  :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 17, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
Midway is an enigma wrapped in a mystery, and only he can unravel it; but it would be easier if you actually listened, midway. You might hear something that will start the process for you.

The kind of thing you got going on in your head, is like having a wild animal on steroids let loose on your thoughts. The moment something goes in, it shreds it and throws it back out at us again and the best you can do is make sure it doesn't fling it's feces.

Its a really sad, painful and lonely way to exist I bet.

But there is always hope middy, but you need to look inside yourself and tame that animal so you can get back to using all that brain matter properly again.

Then you will never feel the way you do, again!  :)

I listen to everything I hear and read... and, unfortunately have to ignore much of the irrational trash thrown about... I won't mention names... but if you look at my prior posts and the responses, it will be obvious.  :aok

Don't fall in the trap of creating some silly version of me in your head as so many others do.  I'm fully sane, normal, a good pilot, and we could likely be best buds in RL if we lived near one another.  I'm blessed with an outstanding family, kids, job, life, friends, health, and hobby(s).  

You'll find many find me a nice and good pilot with substantial enthusiasm and aspirations and having improved much in my short 2 1/2 years in Aces High and am a decent tanker as well.  Being able to pwn virtually 95% of pilots with my mighty Spitfire being just one such achievement that I'm quite proud of. :D

I do admit I talk a lot and therefore get a lot of flak... but it really doesn't bother me because there are gems of knowledge and wisdom to be found among the flak that make it all worthwhile.  I wish I had Badboy's knowledge and insight and my FPH's skills and awesomeness... then I wouldn't have much to say except to help others.  That's certainly not the case... yet.  :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Butcher on June 17, 2013, 05:49:45 PM
I have up having any interest in any threads, whine or cheese I really only want new toys added in game, and to use the message function if i want to say hello to someone.

Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Fud on June 17, 2013, 05:56:33 PM
Yeah Shida....I've always wondered why some posts get mega views and replies while others get squat.  :banana:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Myg on June 17, 2013, 06:15:21 PM
Midway, it just seems like you are tightly balancing on a very thin line between two places, that no one here can seem to properly perceive the difference between.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bj229r on June 17, 2013, 10:11:14 PM
Midway, it just seems like you are tightly balancing on a very thin line between two places, that no one here can seem to properly perceive the difference between.
Are you yet another of his idiotic shades?
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Fruda on June 17, 2013, 11:00:57 PM
I really don't see what the fuss from... One or two people is all about, considering the forums are about as active as they've ever been.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: uptown on June 17, 2013, 11:25:53 PM
One thing that has changed.  We've never had a village idiot on these boards with such stamina as the one we have now.

In that regard there is little point in trying to start any kind of conversation as they tend to end up in the same place every time regardless of the original topic.
That's it in a nutshell. It never fails that as soon as he posts anything the original topic goes to hell and it then becomes all about him. 200 channel the same way. Hour after hour of mouth....nonstop.  :bhead
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: The Fury on June 18, 2013, 04:38:36 AM
Well its obvious telling him to shut up isn't working, you could always de-tune 200 ingame I have killed/picked midway a few times recently and heard nothing from him I even get a salute every now and again, the trick is to actually just ignore his posts act like he isn't there, now I don't mind middy and I do usually read his posts but it would be quite easy not to respond to any of them or even acknowledge them if I didn't like him.

All you are doing is giving him reason to post like right now he has exactly what he wants because my post is about him but I will not be dragged into any sort of e-peen contest with him or any of you for that matter. Can we block people on here so we cant see there posts? there must be a few ways to mute people surely? beats having to listen to you guys moan about him.

Zack is awesome  :old:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 18, 2013, 08:03:46 AM
Well its obvious telling him to shut up isn't working, you could always de-tune 200 ingame I have killed/picked midway a few times recently and heard nothing from him I even get a salute every now and again, the trick is to actually just ignore his posts act like he isn't there, now I don't mind middy and I do usually read his posts but it would be quite easy not to respond to any of them or even acknowledge them if I didn't like him.

All you are doing is giving him reason to post like right now he has exactly what he wants because my post is about him but I will not be dragged into any sort of e-peen contest with him or any of you for that matter. Can we block people on here so we cant see there posts? there must be a few ways to mute people surely? beats having to listen to you guys moan about him.

Zack is awesome  :old:

 :aok

:cheers:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Slate on June 18, 2013, 08:35:39 AM
   When Midway is one of your countrymen he is a helpful asset and is quite cordail. When you type I think the disconnect happens when you Spit out thoughts that you would not normaly say in a conversation.

   Midway your are the best Troll I have seen in many years and I'm sure you enjoy the reactions you get from the simple minds. But be careful you may get a reaction you don't expect.

 (http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq244/Benjafun/punked_fail_thumb.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Benjafun/media/punked_fail_thumb.gif.html)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 18, 2013, 08:53:27 AM
  When Midway is one of your countrymen he is a helpful asset and is quite cordail. When you type I think the disconnect happens when you Spit out thoughts that you would not normaly say in a conversation.

   Midway your are the best Troll I have seen in many years and I'm sure you enjoy the reactions you get from the simple minds. But be careful you may get a reaction you don't expect.

 (http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq244/Benjafun/punked_fail_thumb.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Benjafun/media/punked_fail_thumb.gif.html)

 :uhoh    :headscratch:

I am just a pilot that enjoys discussing Aces High related things and answering questions and responding to people on topics of interest such as this.  You would never find me hiding in a trash can and doing something like that guy.  I would more likely be the guy with the microphone interviewing the person of interest to learn from them.

HiTech posted this great video defining what a troll is:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,335729.msg4414819.html#msg4414819

Or for the reading impaired .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg

HiTech

I am not a troll.  I fly far too often (roughly 50,000 victories in game in two and a half years) and post less than one post on BBS for every 15 sorties) and almost all on topics that are Aces High related.  Check my posting history and you'll see for yourself. :aok

 :old: :airplane: :joystick:

:)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: SAJ73 on June 18, 2013, 09:10:54 AM
Have you hijacked this thread also Middy?!  :rofl

I must admit, I think the whole trolling is sort of funny. You are persistant, I'll give you that!  :aok





 :lol
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 18, 2013, 09:29:24 AM
Have you hijacked this thread also Middy?!  :rofl

I must admit, I think the whole trolling is sort of funny. You are persistant, I'll give you that!  :aok


 :lol

We are discussing the supposed decline of the forums which, I believe, was the OP's intent. :old:
Having been accused here in this very thread of participating in this postulated decline, with which I disagree...
...I am defending my honour and good name from said accusations. :old:

I will be more than happy to also defend said good name in-game and let my hispanos and ACM, in part taught to me by the OP, speak in my defense as well.  :joystick:

 :angel:

 :)
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Guppy35 on June 18, 2013, 09:35:27 AM
We are discussing the supposed decline of the forums which, I believe, was the OP's intent. :old:
Having been accused here in this very thread of participating in this postulated decline, with which I disagree...
...I am defending my honour and good name from said accusations. :old:

I will be more than happy to also defend said good name in-game and let my hispanos and ACM, in part taught to me by the OP, speak in my defense as well.  :joystick:

 :angel:

 :)

I rest my case your honor
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on June 18, 2013, 10:10:59 AM
Hmm, 8 pages of attention already. I wonder if the OP is now content or does he want more?  :devil
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Bruv119 on June 18, 2013, 10:28:06 AM
Hmm, 8 pages of attention already. I wonder if the OP is now content or does he want more?  :devil

anyone got gscholz #? 
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 18, 2013, 10:32:14 AM
Hmm, 8 pages of attention already. I wonder if the OP is now content or does he want more?  :devil

The OP is reconsidering the sanity of expecting reasonable communication and interaction through this medium I should imagine.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Arlo on June 18, 2013, 10:35:32 AM
The OP is reconsidering the sanity of expecting reasonable communication and interaction through this medium I should imagine.

Unrealistic expectations seldom result in realistic outcomes. - Elmo P. Gartenheimer III
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: SAJ73 on June 18, 2013, 10:37:43 AM
It makes great entertainment though, in a soapy manner I might add..  :rolleyes: :P
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 18, 2013, 11:15:15 AM
The OP is reconsidering the sanity of expecting reasonable communication and interaction through this medium I should imagine.

"Well, well, well, well, well. This thread has taken an unexpected turn into the productive....Gotchya, Badboy. I knew I'd get you eventually...."

After this post: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625003.html#msg4625003  as a recent example, I can see how some might think there is a decline... false accusations, "gotchyas", etc.. with no firm supporting facts and lacking any sort of apology for falsely disparaging an outstanding, and possibly the best, forum contributor's good name ("Badboy") can speak to a decline and negative sentiment to some. :frown:

I tend to overlook such moment(s) of weakness and ignore most of the irrational rubbish that gets thrown about, unless, of course, if it involves my good name and requires a proper defense.  Otherwise I focus on the good, the value add, those that are phenominal contributors, such as Badboy... among others. :aok

If you want to see awesome posts, then compare and contrast the above link to the treasure chest that represents Badboy's posts... the awesomeness of Badboy's "value add" to the forums will stand out immediately.  Take a look at this animated gif post of Badboy's as an example: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2314;sa=showPosts

(http://www.badz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Animations/Animation6.gif)


One must learn to appreciate the good and the very best and forgive and ignore the false accusations and "gotchyas" and other such disparagements to see the real value in this forum.  I see great value in the forums... others do as well and I see no decline.  It all depends on how and what you choose to listen to in this forum and in life in general. :)

There are ponies to be found: http://www.pony-expressions.com/Articles.asp?ID=249 :old:

Ironic, isn't it, that the OP'er posted the false "gotchya" accusation calling so many mean names and so recently, yet at the same time falsely disparages probably the most valuable poster in all of Aces High history... all while lamenting in the OP about just such activities?  :confused:

...and then even further falsely impugning said most valued contributor's good name: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625597.html#msg4625597 :huh

The forums are not in decline, if one learns how to ignore the rubbish and falsities and instead focuses on the awesome value to be found.  :salute

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350080.msg4626079.html#msg4626079 :O


At least there are some that can help guide us to see truth as truth (I call them Fighter Pilot Heros aka FPHs): http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625649.html#msg4625649
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625661.html#msg4625661
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625870.html#msg4625870

Choose carefully whom you listen to. :old:

I rest my case... I rest my case indeed. :old:


<walks away, shaking head, disappointed in the OPer's hypocrisy>
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Zacherof on June 18, 2013, 12:50:12 PM
Midway, please learn to condense your post please :old:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Midway on June 18, 2013, 12:57:06 PM
Midway, please learn to condense your post please :old:

Fine...

Nrshida is wrong.  I am right.  FPH's agree.  Go read Badboy's posts and learn something about ACM and fighting prowess.  Nuff said. :D

 :bolt:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Zacherof on June 18, 2013, 01:00:11 PM
Fine...

Nrshida is wrong.  I am right.  FPH's agree.  Go read Badboy's posts and learn something about ACM and fighting prowess.  Nuff said. :D

 :bolt:
And that sir was awesome :aok
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bj229r on June 18, 2013, 01:15:05 PM
Throughout the course of this thread (this PAGE, for that matter) has it occurred to anyone else that a forum-member ignore feature would be nice? I've seen it in other forums, prolly dependent upon the particular software.....but there are about a half-dozen of our more prolific posters who, between NOW and the end of days, are NEVER going to type anything I wish to read.I'd gladly trade them for hair restoral ads stuck in the center of each page
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Zacherof on June 18, 2013, 01:17:10 PM
Good thing were buddies then :D
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bj229r on June 18, 2013, 01:42:46 PM
Hold that thought
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: JunkyII on June 18, 2013, 02:23:00 PM
Exactly what most of them are. Ali was nothing but talk and a whole lot of suck. Think he wouldve been known without that runny mouth he had? NOPE.


Brian.....you can't compare any of the forum clowns to a past World Heavyweight Champ. Ali talked toejam but he also backed that toejam up.

Sorry but someone had to say something on that.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: 68Raptor on June 18, 2013, 03:17:06 PM
One thing that has changed.  We've never had a village idiot on these boards with such stamina as the one we have now.

In that regard there is little point in trying to start any kind of conversation as they tend to end up in the same place every time regardless of the original topic.

One of the reasons the SMF gods gave us the ignore function on the boards. The HTC gods gave us the .squelch in the game. Certain individuals here are automatically ignored so I'm not bothered by those. In game I've gotten into the habit of .squelching certain names as soon as I see them. I'm only exposed to a single line of their attempt at notoriety.  :banana:
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: nrshida on June 18, 2013, 03:41:14 PM
Fine...

Nrshida is wrong.  I am right.  FPH's agree.  Go read Badboy's posts and learn something about ACM and fighting prowess.  Nuff said. :D

 :bolt:


Go and read my latest post junior.

Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: whiteman on June 18, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
One of the reasons the SMF gods gave us the ignore function on the boards. The HTC gods gave us the .squelch in the game. Certain individuals here are automatically ignored so I'm not bothered by those. In game I've gotten into the habit of .squelching certain names as soon as I see them. I'm only exposed to a single line of their attempt at notoriety.  :banana:

down for a game of whose ignore list longer? Mine is rather lengthy and includes many of tools and fools who can't get enough of themselves.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: Lusche on June 18, 2013, 03:54:44 PM
One of the reasons the SMF gods gave us the ignore function on the boards. The HTC gods gave us the .squelch in the game. Certain individuals here are automatically ignored so I'm not bothered by those. In game I've gotten into the habit of .squelching certain names as soon as I see them.


Unfortunatley, at some point it doesn't help anymore. Namely if the troll is reeling so many in, that every thread becomes nothing but a spamfest.
Back in the day I finally left CH 200, because squelching Midway & manawar didn't help - the channel was still all about them. Instead of ignoring them, players would basically yell "shut up" at them for hours.

I'm afraid it's about the same with the forum. What does it help to squelch Midway only see 9 out of 10 postings in a thread either quoting him directly or, again, telling him to "shut up" - often in several paragraphs. I am very tired of that.

If you think he or others are spamming the forum our "ruining it", yo are not anything better if you constantly give in the need to reply. Actually, you are the stupid, not him.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bj229r on June 18, 2013, 03:58:21 PM
down for a game of whose ignore list longer? Mine is rather lengthy and includes many of tools and fools who can't get enough of themselves.
is it possible to do that here? Never saw an option
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: whiteman on June 18, 2013, 03:58:48 PM

Unfortunatley, at some point it doesn't help anymore. Namely if the troll is reeling so many in, that every thread becomes nothing but a spamfest.
Back in the day I finally left CH 200, because squelching Midway & manawar didn't help - the channel was still all about them. Instead of ignoring them, players would basically yell "shut up" at them for hours.

I'm afraid it's about the same with the forum. What does it help to squelch Midway only see 9 out of 10 postings in a thread either quoting him directly or, again, telling him to "shut up" - often in several paragraphs. I am very tired of that.

If you think he or others are spamming the forum our "ruining it", yo are not anything better if you constantly give in the need to reply. Actually, you are the stupid, not him.

This for the love of god!!!!
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: whiteman on June 18, 2013, 03:59:55 PM
is it possible to do that here? Never saw an option

profile, and it's under "Personal Message Options." Works for the message board. I only have 22, thought it was more.
Title: Re: The Decline of the Forums
Post by: bj229r on June 18, 2013, 04:10:53 PM
profile, and it's under "Personal Message Options." Works for the message board. I only have 22, thought it was more.
wouldn't have thought to look there. YOU SIR, are on my Christmas list!