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[Mr Big]

Originally posted by Rolex
It must be awful to feel so helpless and powerless. All of the life is drained out of you. Cheer up, man! You need a dose of optimism.

Good thing you weren't around in 1776.

You've got time on your hands. You just going to barbeque and sit around waiting to die? Go visit your Congressman and Senators. Ask them what they're going to do about it. You're like a bulldog when you make up your mind about something.

Run for Congress.

What the hell are you waiting for? Your next life?

......says the American living in Japan, doing nothing other than telling us that the "sky is falling"

[Toad]

That's not an answer.  

I suspect you come up with the same answer I do. Slim to none and we both know that's pretty accurate. That's realism, not optimism.

As for poor wittle ole me... not to worry.

I stay a bit busier than I really want to be; I have more hobbies than I can pursue adequately and I'm a far cry from spending my last shekel of silver.

Oh... and I can't run for Congress. My parents were married (still are, 63 years and going strong).

[Toad]

The newest addition to one of my hobbies, Chestlehurst Emma.



Busy, busy, busy all the time. Damn but they are cute and fund. This one is going to be really good; the apple does not fall far from the tree and the parents are stellar.

[Mr Big]

Nice!

[E25280]

Originally posted by Rolex
It must be awful to feel so helpless and powerless. All of the life is drained out of you. Cheer up, man! You need a dose of optimism.

Good thing you weren't around in 1776.

Wow.  Learn some history.  1776 was all about removing the hand of a tyrannical government from the people, not relying on a government.  And oh, by the way, they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.  It was a bunch of businessmen who threw off the yoke and designed a government of the people, by the people, for the people -- with a constitution that was supposed to restrict the power of the government, not the people.

And now you say government is the answer and imply that is what 1776 was all about??  Shameful.

Toad is exactly right.  Government is not going to "solve" anything.  The best thing they can do is GET THE   H E L L   OUT OF THE WAY and let the businessmen and entrepreneurs do what they do best -- see a need and fill it.

[Toad]

Understand what Rolex was saying. He thinks I'd have given up in despair in 1776.

He's not comparing the American Revolution to the price of oil/need for alternatives.

As for me giving up in 1776.... back then you could shoot your governmental tormentors. In fact, there was a lot of shooting of government minions.

The announcement that "we're from the Government and we're here to help" would likely bring a volley of musketfire.

Now if we could get away with something like that today, I'd be a whole lot more involved in bringing about change.  

[E25280]

If you are saying I read too much into his posts, well . . . maybe.

But I was overdue for my "monthly tirade against something."

I'm feeling MUUUCH better now!:aok

[Rolex]

1. Great looking dog there!

2. Shut up, Nuke! (how ya doin' by the way? )

3. Relax a little numbers guy. You don't have to scream. I'm not the evil boogey man. We're not serious here. We just like to act like we know what we're talking about.

[Toad]

And you know the chances of the US government doing much of anything in the next 10 years, much less an all-out commitment like Sweden's, is slim to none.
 
That's what we were talking about.


Yep, Emma's a beauty. Smart, stylish and fun to work.

[FiLtH]

My wife wants a dog. If she saw that she'd melt. I like dogs, but we have two cats. I don't want to mess up the dynamic we have.  Not to mention having to take it out for walks.

[bj229r]

Originally posted by Rolex

Iraq was always about securing oil. It was never about Iraqis or terrorism or Saddam Hussein or WMD. We all know that the decision to invade Iraq was made before 9/11, so let's not fool each other about that, okay?

If that was the only goal, we could have snagged Venezuela a LOT more easily, and got rid of that salamander Chavez as a bonus;) , + it is in Eastern time zone, I believe, making it a LOT easier to follow the war!

[bkbandit]

One things for sure, gas keeps goin this way there goin to be alot more bikes here in the city.

[lazs2]

LOL.... so rolex suggests that we (the government) start up nuke plants... and explore alternative sources and educate students?

LOL... it is the government (mostly democrats) who are stopping all nuke plants and exploration and.... by rebate...stopping all meaningful research into solar... the greatest breakthrough in solar wil come from a private engineer who has been hampered by rebates and the lazy get rich off the government solar scam artists with their 3% efficient panels that the government sponsors with stupid rebates!!!

As for education.... this is beyond funny... the government controls all education with an iron fist.... the democrats again...

How would letting the government have even more control of education help anyone but the teachers union?

Nope.... johnny who can't read in the 12th grade from government interferance in education will not be able to find his way to the nuke plant after four years of government education...

A solution to education is vouchers and competition... a solution to alternative energy is to get the government out of it..

let private companies explore and build..  let private schools teach...

Our "government" has spent countless billions on education and subsidies and rebates for alternative fuels and on making sure that there is enough red tape to tie up a whole nation of people willing to do something.

rolex.... your solution is to give even more power to the people who are holding us back.  Amazing.... we aren't japs or swedes You probly forgot that we are Americans or what that means.

lazs

[Mr Big]

Originally posted by lazs2
Our "government" has spent countless billions on education and subsidies and rebates for alternative fuels and on making sure that there is enough red tape to tie up a whole nation of people willing to do something.

rolex.... your solution is to give even more power to the people who are holding us back.  Amazing.... we aren't japs or swedes You probly forgot that we are Americans or what that means.

lazs

I freakin love Lazs.

Don't know if this will offend you Lazs, but to me you make sense in a Ross Perot kind of way.

[lazs2]

uh... thanks for the sentiment but... I never liked much about perot.  and.... I have a girlfriend but... I will take application in case there is an opening.

I think perot was more big government... he just wanted it to be HIS kind of big government.

I just get a little fed up with all the doom and gloomers here who don't even live here.   I am really really fed up with those who cry big crocadile tears about how mean and powerfull the booooosh republicans are when in reality....

They want an even more powerfull all encompassing governmet but THEIR kind of powerful one.... They want to be in charge of the government suppression... they want to supress and ban the things they don't like or care about.  They want to bleed even more money from us to payu for their worthless government programs...

I just see us all fighting to get a bigger and bigger government and the politicians laughing their butt off at us....

"so you want less freedom?  We can do that but it will cost ya.."

mushheads...

lazs