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Offline AKIron

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« Reply #285 on: November 02, 2007, 07:45:45 AM »
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Like the "global warming my arse" club could live a day without running an suv dry.

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I drive a honda while Al Bore drives a fleet of SUVs.

Make you a deal, if you can get all the GWA to completely give up using any petroleum products for a year I'll join in whatever solution they want to try. Buying carbon credits doesn't count.
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« Reply #286 on: November 02, 2007, 08:37:33 AM »
arlo.. I would say that I haven't addressed your point because you don't have a point.. I can't tell your jon stewart imitation from a point at the very least.. I can't tell if you really are as dumb as you seem in other words.  I think you might find that... despite your scientific bumper sticker study... DC votes left and blue.

tigress... I asked for one solution that we could discuss.  To break it down and we would take your points.. you gave me a rambling 7 points that anyone would look at as not reality.    

Pick one of those seven and we will rip it a new one.. otherwise.. I just have to say that... blanket statement..... they are all wishful thinking and/or impossible and or/just plain silly

As for blue and red... it is a big deal.. I don't care if we "win" if that means we become more of a blue country... if a few vaporized blue countries get them to mind their own bussiness and stop making laws to take away freedom of the red areas... so be it.. it will be worth it.

I don't want to pull together with the blue people.. I don't want their idea of America.

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« Reply #287 on: November 02, 2007, 09:29:53 AM »
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arlo.. I would say that I haven't addressed your point because you don't have a point.. I can't tell your jon stewart imitation from a point at the very least.. I can't tell if you really are as dumb as you seem in other words.  I think you might find that... despite your scientific bumper sticker study... DC votes left and blue.

tigress... I asked for one solution that we could discuss.  To break it down and we would take your points.. you gave me a rambling 7 points that anyone would look at as not reality.    

Pick one of those seven and we will rip it a new one.. otherwise.. I just have to say that... blanket statement..... they are all wishful thinking and/or impossible and or/just plain silly

As for blue and red... it is a big deal.. I don't care if we "win" if that means we become more of a blue country... if a few vaporized blue countries get them to mind their own bussiness and stop making laws to take away freedom of the red areas... so be it.. it will be worth it.

I don't want to pull together with the blue people.. I don't want their idea of America.

lazs


You have a choice... pick one.

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« Reply #288 on: November 02, 2007, 02:36:31 PM »
tigress.. I think that like all women.. you are the real hydra.. when it comes to "debate" that is..  cut down one arguement and you see it has grown 7 more heads that had nothing to do with the first.

but.. Ok.. I will play.. you said pick one... I will start with one.   number zero, the fuel cell thing is unworkable at this time and I don't want the government to waste tax money on something free market should do soooo...

number one on your list..

"1. Establish an international agreement by the G-7 nations declaring the Present Islamic Religion as a common threat to Humanity and kick Russia off the G-8."

uh...  do what?   an international agreement?  you mean get all these muslim filled countries that are afraid of their own people.. who are afraid to publish a cartoon fer chrissakes... you mean get them to declare a whole region as lepers and scum and a threat to humanity based on their religion of islam?   and then...    throw russia out like some beggar at the table who didn't have the proper attire?

Not that I think that this would not be great... entertaining at the least but... do you really think this is something we could even speak of much less do?  

seriously... do you want me to go on to the rest of your list?

lazs

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« Reply #289 on: November 02, 2007, 03:37:57 PM »
How sweet of you to call me  Hydra. Are you Hercules?

Or are we back to Tarzan and Jane again? :rofl

You are so big and powerful and smart and I am just a woman.

awwww.... it it time for me to just hush-up and be obedient? :lol

I know how to play this game!

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« Reply #290 on: November 02, 2007, 08:40:30 PM »
unconditional surrender won ww2, and it is the only way this war can be won as well! either by us, or them, or our gov. you may talk about how hittler was defeated but the people of germany were defeated as well, in dresden, and other places! hiroshima showed the japanese what lay ahead of them if they did not surrender! now what can we show the muslim world  that will make them  change there minds about global domination? the threat of extinction? that is the only way we know that has worked! soviet leaders used this tactic to survive the cold war as well as us. the threat of total annihilation wins the war with less casualties than any other! the alternative is u.s. gov. surrender so that the free people of this country can destroy the threat as it presents itself without fear of anything exept death! sounds pretty harsh im sure but i am a realist i dont like to play this game for real. i am way more comfortable in ah shooting down bad guys that just reup in a new plane so givin the chance i would defend this country, and my freinds, to the death,, but hope that the threat of this would, in itself, prevent the need to do so !!!
war is not pretty, it is not fun,  but it must be fought to win when used.
my intent was not to hurt your feelings but to give my perspective, as i have lived as a soldier and stood on that line pulled the trigger and pulled it again, wishing the bad guys would stop coming so i didnt have to shoot them anymore.
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« Reply #291 on: November 03, 2007, 05:01:44 AM »
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the threat of total annihilation wins the war with less casualties than any other!




a very interesting point there.

look at this for a minute and tell me whats different about 1945 and now.


1) A-bomb dropped. bodes total anihilation for the enemy and therefore ends a war.

2)Planes flown into buildings. Bodes total anihilation for ourselves and therefore starts a war.

this war will never end. i dont think even an A bomb will be enough to stop it, the survivors will still fight on.
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« Reply #292 on: November 03, 2007, 05:58:18 AM »
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 Might I point out, that the Soviets are picking themselves up off the map, wiping the blood off they're chin, and getting ready to go another round? And this time, they'll have China for a tag-team partner.Deny it all you want, The truth is, China is becoming the economic powerhouse-Soon, they will be the technological and military one, as well.


Well at least I got a chuckle out of that one.
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« Reply #293 on: November 03, 2007, 07:34:34 AM »
planes flown into a building did not bode total anihilation, it was a wake up call,  alot like pearl harbor, only against the people, not the military. i hope we didnt hit the snooze button to long!
the end of our way of life is what is at stake , not just our lives. i dont want to fight them but will not run away.  i think i will leave this thread alone for a while as i dont like how it makes me feel. im just here for the fun right now
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« Reply #294 on: November 03, 2007, 07:54:05 AM »
WWhiskey,

There are a lot of people who are in denial about a lot of things. I just let them shuffle along thinking what they have made up their minds to think and their inventing of stuff instead of being informed.

Anyone watch the program last evening on The History Channel about Iran? I only got to see part of it... drats

It made me feel a little better to see information about the Special Ops used against Iran and the serious economic arm-twisting the US exerted against China to force them to stop directly exporting nuclear technology to Iran.

I don't trust China and Russia as far as I can spit but also I think we create fear in them causing them stand against us. go figure

mmmm.... serious economic arm-twisting of China; that was on my list.

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« Reply #295 on: November 03, 2007, 07:55:53 AM »
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Well at least I got a chuckle out of that one.


You and Lazs are endless sources of chuckles for me dear! :rofl

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« Reply #296 on: November 03, 2007, 07:57:38 AM »
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You and Lazs are endless sources of chuckles for me dear! l

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« Reply #297 on: November 03, 2007, 10:15:45 AM »
second that... u should read the PM's I get.

tigress.. debate with you is the hydra.   you are all over the map.. show that one of your main points is total bs and you pretend you never said it and go into song or something while going on a whole other tangent.   or seven.

I took one of your points (not counting the hydrogen one) and explained patiently how it was not workable.. what we are doing is workable.

shall we take your other points and laugh at them?  I don't think anyone took them seriously tho.

"wake up"??  are you kidding?  from the start I have said we will have to fight these guys sooner or latter and there or here.. they are 9th century and 9th century is all about conquer and enslave.   Hell... if you go to communism.. it is 19th century but still...  conquer and enslave.  

We made mistakes with them..  Patton was right..we should have kept on going and beaten russia.   So what?  in the end we won anyway.

we keep winning because our system is superior and... we are the most moral superpower the world has ever known.

I am an optimist... we may not always be the most moral superpower the world has ever known but it will be because an even more moral one takes our place.. not because we will lose our way.

your depressing scenario depends on communism and islam remaining steeped in the past and the world simply accepting that type of morality.

I say.. they will change...not us.

lazs

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« Reply #298 on: November 03, 2007, 10:28:32 AM »
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Well at least I got a chuckle out of that one.


And that is the attitude(from the west) that has let China become the threat they are today.

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« Reply #299 on: November 03, 2007, 10:31:01 AM »
and if they wont change, they will die..


Even the trees in the forest are fighting each other for sunlight. life is conflict by nature so we may as well be good at it, eh?
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