Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Kazaa on April 18, 2010, 10:50:09 AM
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According to Bruv, Fighter Ace 3 is going out of business and will be shuting down their servers soon.
/discuss.
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One thing I can say: It's better for us. Were going to have either more competition, or more costumers, or maybe even a bit of both.
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One thing I can say: It's better for us.
As long as they don't say on the old game forums that we all suck, the FM is horrid and continuously push for a change in the game on our forums.
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One thing I can say: It's better for us. Were going to have either more competition, or more costumers, or maybe even a bit of both.
YAYyy more thorisms to post on how the FM is buggerd up on such and such AC. :devil
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As long as they don't say on the old game forums that we all suck, the FM is horrid and continuously push for a change in the game on our forums.
That sort probably generate the same respect on other forums as they do here. No worries.
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As long as they don't say on the old game forums that we all suck, the FM is horrid and continuously push for a change in the game on our forums.
Well I can't judge what people are going to say lol all I know is (and it doesn't take much to figure this out) that there will be people coming from FA, weather or not they're good or not we'll have to see. :P
and better for us probably better for HTC. More money for them lol
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my source is extremely reliable.
they had a good innings and lasted a whole 5 years more than I anticipated. Plenty of decent folk will become AH subscribers because of this and we can all help these old timers learn new tricks.
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after checking their forums I see some of them talking about warbirds and wildbill is going to save them all :noid
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my source is extremely reliable.
There is an offical post on the fighter ace forums.
For many of you, Fighter Ace has been a 13-year journey of friendship and learning. For me, Fighter Ace has been a 20-year saga of hard work, fascinating friendships, world travel and an unmatched education in things both technical and philosophical. Like all good things, though, Fighter Ace must come to a close.
after checking their forums I see some of them talking about warbirds and wildbill is going to save them all :noid
I have turned to my long-time friend, “Wild” Bill Stealey, the CEO IEntertainment who owns and operates Warbirds, who is himself a retired USAF Lt. Colonel. Bill has been a major contributor to the flight sim genre as the founder of Microprose, and I am sure many of you remember playing Microprose’s games. For me Bill’s games were an inspiration, and his example was instrumental in helping me launch my own Fighter Ace vision.
WarBirds would like to welcome any Fighter Ace players who would like to join the WarBirds online community. As his welcome to all of you, Bill is offering FA players a FREE 60 Day account to WarBirds. You can sign up for FREE at the special URL that has been set up just for FA players: http://www.totalsims.com/aviatorssignup.php. You can also email Bill at his email address with your questions: wildbill@ient.com
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haven't they suffered enough Hitech do something please :D
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Full Court Marketing Press.......................
Hitech do something please :D
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2 months free trial! That's so sly! I love it.
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2 months free trial! That's so sly! I love it.
Free 2 months of that other game for everyone!!1!.
How will they know?
wrongway
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Well, 2 free months of that donkey will surely help them really appreciate AH when they finally wake up and try a good flight sim.
YAYyy more thorisms to post on how the FM is buggerd up on such and such AC. :devil
And I've noticed your first hand aeronautic engineering and WWII fighter pilot experience setting the record straight...try looking at some things from a point of view outside the brown nose circle.
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See Rule #4
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Well, 2 free months of that donkey will surely help them really appreciate AH when they finally wake up and try a good flight sim.
And I've noticed your first hand aeronautic engineering and WWII fighter pilot experience setting the record straight...try looking at some things from a point of view outside the brown nose circle.
If I had a problem with the FM I'd try and find some documentation to back it up before opening my yap. That sir is the difference. :aok
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You assume that FA3 has a "flight model" to compare to WB or AH. It's truly an arcade game. If anything I think most of the players will flunk out of whatever game they go to (be it WB or AH or IL2... well IL2 lets most folks in so who knows?)
Doubt there'd be that kind of debate going on about our flight models when in my mind I see them all going "flight models? What in tarnation are those?"
:cheers:
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You assume that FA3 has a "flight model" to compare to WB or AH. It's truly an arcade game. If anything I think most of the players will flunk out of whatever game they go to (be it WB or AH or IL2... well IL2 lets most folks in so who knows?)
Doubt there'd be that kind of debate going on about our flight models when in my mind I see them all going "flight models? What in tarnation are those?"
:cheers:
LOL every once in a while you make a funnay. :aok
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You assume that FA3 has a "flight model" to compare to WB or AH. It's truly an arcade game. If anything I think most of the players will flunk out of whatever game they go to (be it WB or AH or IL2... well IL2 lets most folks in so who knows?)
Doubt there'd be that kind of debate going on about our flight models when in my mind I see them all going "flight models? What in tarnation are those?"
:cheers:
someone in the FA forums noticed that when they logged into WB, the number of people online were less than FA's.
ack-ack
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someone in the FA forums noticed that when they logged into WB, the number of people online were less than FA's.
ack-ack
"That there's what you call eye-ron-ick"
(http://content6.flixster.com/question/54/48/34/5448344_std.jpg)
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Go forth my minions, troll the Fighter Ace 3 forums and collect us some seal pups to club.
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Go forth my minions, troll the Fighter Ace 3 forums and collect us some seal pups to club.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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Doom and gloom on that forum......
Gave fighter ace a try was not my cup of tea.
Sounds like they are going to warbirds how is that game?
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Sounds like they are going to warbirds how is that game?
DEAD just needs dirt tossed over it. :D
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Sounds like they are going to warbirds how is that game?
I played with my poo one time, it was about the same.
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Sounds like they are going to warbirds how is that game?
Well, as someone in the FA forums noticed, when they logged on it has less people online than FA did. WB used to be good, when HiTech and crew were developing and running it but it quickly went into the crapper as soon as WildBill took over.
ack-ack
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Doom and gloom on that forum......
Gave fighter ace a try was not my cup of tea.
Sounds like they are going to warbirds how is that game?
Warbirds sucks. The grass is dead and dried on the other side of that hill.
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Winnie? :D
I played with my poo one time, it was about the same.
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DEAD just needs dirt tossed over it. :D
:rofl
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Someone that can post over at the FA forums should invite the FA refugees over to AH. It would be a disservice if we let them waste their money on WB.
ack-ack
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I wouldn't say WB is dead. It has a strong community keeping it alive, even if somewhat diminished.
I would say it is less desirable and less fun than AH, though.
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Someone that can post over at the FA forums should invite the FA refugees over to AH. It would be a disservice if we let them waste their money on WB.
ack-ack
was just gonna post the same sentiment.
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was just gonna post the same sentiment.
one of the FA guys has started a facebook page, so I left a little note there.
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Did you offer them the 2 weeks free phatzo :lol
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Did you offer them the 2 weeks free phatzo :lol
no but warned about nothing but crickets chirping in warbirds most of the time.
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So, is WB free to download and can I play a couple weeks for free? I grow tired of all the great things HTC has created for me in Aces High II and want to see what others think is "good". :neener:
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So, is WB free to download and can I play a couple weeks for free? I grow tired of all the great things HTC has created for me in Aces High II and want to see what others think is "good". :neener:
if you go to the fa forum and follow the links you might be able to scam yourself 60 days, but honestly its just a distraction and kind of dinky.
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Sounds like they are going to warbirds how is that game?
Put it this way...there are a couple of aircraft there that we don't have here but...if you don't mind flying under trees that look like q-tips hanging 50 feet off the ground...1997 skin graphics (unless you pay extra to see the good ones)...IL2 fm's and a game that is using programming code from the late 90s and hasn't progressed since it's creation...then WBs is a good place for you to spend $20 a month.
As of right this minute the arena list shows 71 people in the main arena...that probably includes a few "trial period" people.
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I'd never even heard of Warbirds until I started reading the AH forums.
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does this mean we're going to get an anti-gravity arena?
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I'd never even heard of Warbirds until I started reading the AH forums.
I have not heard of warbirds, FA or AHII till 2005 when i saw a commercial of AHII. Since then it has been AHII and now heard of the other two. AHII seem to have a clue on how to develop the better gaming system and advertising it. I feel that Hitech and crew will continue to better the game.
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Aces High 2 is the best flight sim period, I've played them all and nothing even comes close. True stoy.
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Aces High 2 is the best flight sim period, I've played them all and nothing even comes close. True stoy.
Just imagine one day that Hitech, Pyro and crew will retire one day. :( :uhoh
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Just imagine one day that Hitech, Pyro and crew will retire one day. :( :uhoh
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then it all goes down the crapper?? FA guys coming over to AH may just create more whiners IMO
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the 3 guys from fighter ace that come over will not be that big of a deal
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then it all goes down the crapper?? FA guys coming over to AH may just create more whiners IMO
So more players to populate the arenas and extra money for HTC wouldn't be good for you, just becasue there may be more whiners on the forum.
/facepalm.
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the 3 guys from fighter ace that come over will not be that big of a deal
:rofl
I know a lot of people who play Fighter Ace 3 and refused to play anything else.
They need to come to the light.
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MAY key word and never said it would be a bad thing for buisness etc.
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the 3 guys from fighter ace that come over will not be that big of a deal
:rofl :aok brilliant
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:rofl
I know a lot of people who play Fighter Ace 3 and refused to play anything else.
They need to come to the light.
Do you still play?
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Just imagine one day that Hitech, Pyro and crew will retire one day. :( :uhoh
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That will be the end of the world.
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By that time Aviation will be dead :(
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What's funny is that WildBill is probably looking at this as the one thing that is going to save WB and lift it out of the gutter he put it in.
Edit: LOL...reading the forums, I finally figured out where KenJr. and his B-17s stories went to. Gawd, hope he doesn't come here.
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Didn't know that AKAK? Maybe he'll come to AH and offer free rides :)
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Didn't know that AKAK? Maybe he'll come to AH and offer free rides :)
With each ride in his B-17, you get a free PC! :rofl
ack-ack
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Go forth my minions, troll the Fighter Ace 3 forums and collect us some seal pups to club.
again with the seal pup clubbing :headscratch:
lets try an RPK or somethin belt fed please :rock
froger
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With all the joking aside. There are alot of virtual pilots who just had their cosy rug snatched from underneath them. how would you guys feel if the same happened to HTC?
IF they have the desire to keep flying and dying they will need assistance. Over the last 5 years I've had several guys come to me and ask for my help. Stick mapping, View preferences, WTH is going on in the MA.
Some very good sticks who have flown for years couldn't grasp not having a padlock system or a forced cockpit. Of course they will need to want to learn and expect to get shot down.
As a community I would ask to spend a few hours in the training arena to assist. You might just make some friends you never knew you had.
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With all the joking aside. There are alot of virtual pilots who just had their cosy rug snatched from underneath them. how would you guys feel if the same happened to HTC?
There are quite a few of us that fully sympathize and understand the feelings those at FA are going through and if the reception the FA players get if they come in here, I'm sure it will be just like the reception we ex-AW'er received during our Exodus. In other words, don't worry. The AH community will welcome them as it welcomed us 10 years ago.
ack-ack
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I just do not think many of them will come over to aces high. On their forum it doesn't even seem like an option. Wish I could post and tell em to come over. I think Thorsim came from over there and he is a good guy to fly with.
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I just do not think many of them will come over to aces high. On their forum it doesn't even seem like an option. Wish I could post and tell em to come over. I think Thorsim came from over there and he is a good guy to fly with.
Nah Thorsim was Thorwb in warbirds when I was there a few years ago. Funny same stuff in their forums too. I'm almost tempted to sign up to the game so I can be a sort of missionary and lead them away from wildsatanbill. Lots of complaints on their forum about how long warbirds is taking to download. They even mention WWII online as an option, two weeks of that and I was over it.
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I just do not think many of them will come over to aces high. On their forum it doesn't even seem like an option. Wish I could post and tell em to come over. I think Thorsim came from over there and he is a good guy to fly with.
thorsim was from WB.
ack-ack
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No :old:
With all the joking aside. There are alot of virtual pilots who just had their cosy rug snatched from underneath them. how would you guys feel if the same happened to HTC?
IF they have the desire to keep flying and dying they will need assistance. Over the last 5 years I've had several guys come to me and ask for my help. Stick mapping, View preferences, WTH is going on in the MA.
Some very good sticks who have flown for years couldn't grasp not having a padlock system or a forced cockpit. Of course they will need to want to learn and expect to get shot down.
As a community I would ask to spend a few hours in the training arena to assist. You might just make some friends you never knew you had.
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I didn't see even a mention of AH on their boards, seems like someone could post on the AF boards about AH........mabye let them know how good we have it. Dudes were looking at WW II online....screw that.
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I just let off some posts thanks to a friend whose forum account works.
Lets see how quickly PPS removes the shameless advertising of Aces High. :bolt:
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Having flown in Fighter Ace extensively after AWIII folded, my observation is that community has it's good pilots as well as a percentage of ultra melons.
The real action there was always in the arcade arena rather than (the more realistic) total combat. AH is the better game, though.
I think we should welcome these people. The weak should fall be the wayside quickly. There is also a percentage of old AW people there who know their way around. :aok
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Well I guess I am now forced to fly this damn game!
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Admiral
ps: Bruv I changed the subject to accurately state the version.. lol (like it matters)
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Well I guess I am now forced to fly this damn game!
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Admiral
ps: Bruv I changed the subject to accurately state the version.. lol (like it matters)
Being forced to play Aces High 2 is like being forced to make babies with Scarlett Johanson.
Oh the humanity.
Admiral, it's up to you to lead your flock over to safety.
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I wonder what fuzz's problem is, we're only trying to help. I think a chill pill is in order and all he needs to do is come and try it out.
I just popped onto their forum - and I am sure they'll troll as well to see this. Apparently the powers at be don't seem to welcomed to make money because they seem to be trashing FA players. I think it's funny because it is supposed to be a business, right? The initial trash is against Ken Jr. and then goes to the general populace of current FA players, and onto WarBirds ownership as well as a big "told ya so" to FA ownership.
I may just go over there to give them an asswhoopin' in the name of FA - that's right AH subscribers - watch for Fuzz!
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well facebook works!! :D
~S~ drake
Welcome to rescue FAer HQ. Warbirds is not the answer and the more people we can turn to the light the better :banana:
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Having flown in Fighter Ace extensively after AWIII folded, my observation is that community has it's good pilots as well as a percentage of ultra melons.
The real action there was always in the arcade arena rather than (the more realistic) total combat. AH is the better game, though.
I think we should welcome these people. The weak should fall be the wayside quickly. There is also a percentage of old AW people there who know their way around. :aok
Thats the spirit mack. As long as their good pilots have some backbone and patience they will do just fine. Look at me :uhoh
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I get AJAX Muha ha ha (rubs evil chin) :devil
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"I will be giving that game another go and look forward to slapping Bruv and Kazaa around like little school girls." :rofl
I nearly spilt my TEA !! :O
You have some brass balls that is for sure. My Spitfire > than your K4 anyday. Bring it :D
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Being forced to play Aces High 2 is like being forced to make babies with Scarlett Johanson.
Dude, you really need to get out more.
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Either I'm missing seeing posts, or my CO and fellow squaddies are talking to themselves.
:D
Wurzel
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"Just to be clear, we have no problem at this time with our players discussing any other game options here, due to the circumstances.
However we do have a problem with players who violate our CoC and EULA. Bruv is no 'friend' here, he was blocked a long time ago for using our servers to try to recruit our players away from FA to AH.
He has once again violated our rules by using another players account to post here, while at the same time bashing some of our players and staff in the AH forums. The account he used has been blocked, and any further attempts will result in those players accounts blocked as well."
Good ole PPS living up to his reputation. For the record i put a guy straight on his comparison between FA and AH 5 years ago. I did not suggest that AH was a better game with my post or provide any links. I just alluded to this players misconceptions. Playing for one week and commenting nonsense wasn't a fair discussion or debate. Of course any Adult conversation that PPS judges to be against the greater good of his community he stamps on. It is this over bearing moderation that has stifled any in game banter or discussion.
He needs to look alot closer to home as to why the place is a ghost town. I mean come on blaming the global economic downturn. More people will be turning to online games because it is a cheap way to have endless entertainment. People play to have fun and crack a few jokes.
Can someone please quote me where I bashed another FA player in this thread? It was just one member of staff too him... :rolleyes:
I guess a grudge is still a grudge huh. I raise a glass to democracy and freedom of speech!!
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This bloke sounds like a total moderator-power Nazi! I hope he comes over to Aces High 2, I'm sure you will enjoy punting him of his pedestal.
Gratz on getting your mates account band, I'm sure he's well happy with you.
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This bloke sounds like a total moderator Nazi. I hope he comes over to Aces High 2, I'm sure you will enjoy punting him of his pedestal.
Gratz on getting your mates account band, I'm sure he's well happy with you.
its ok Bamb said he didnt give a poop what I did with it. Not that I posted anything breaking their CoC apart from posting under another account :)
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This bloke sounds like a total moderator-power Nazi! I hope he comes over to Aces High 2, I'm sure you will enjoy punting him of his pedestal.
Gratz on getting your mates account band, I'm sure he's well happy with you.
he couldnt fly for his supper anyhow.
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Dude, you really need to get out more.
Swoop, he's too busy looking at pics of Scarlett Johansson to leave the house.
I noticed a couple of the refugees have started in the *cough* WBs trial period *cough*...I think ole vileBill is up to 75 active players now...doesn't look like his other deal has panned out like he expected either...there are just so many ways you can package crap before people stop even opening the package to see the crap.
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Swoop, he's too busy looking at pics of Scarlett Johansson to leave the house.
It's a tuff job, but someone has to do it!
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Well I guess I am now forced to fly this damn game!
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Admiral
ps: Bruv I changed the subject to accurately state the version.. lol (like it matters)
Welcome to our little community, it's where we put the Fun back in dysfunctional. :salute
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Welcome Admiral. :salute
Sorry to hear that the game you and your fellow FA'ers enjoyed is going to end. Just like you, I've made some great friends here and to know that I would only have a few more months to correspond/fly with them would be difficult to describe.
I hope that you and other FA players do come to AH and find a new home here. I'm sure that many of the AH community will look forward to having new players joining our ranks. Best of luck to all of the FA players, wherever they decide to go. :cheers:
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I am willing to log some hours in the TA w/ any FA refugees to help get them up to speed.
Just let me know either in game or here via private message.
And welcome aboard!
I am sure you will love AH just as much as we do.
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I am willing to log some hours in the TA w/ any FA refugees to help get them up to speed.
Just let me know either in game or here via private message.
And welcome aboard!
I am sure you will love AH just as much as we do.
I 2nd that. Having someone able to talk you through the controller setup is a must to get things done as painlessly as possible.
If your really nice I might be able to share some of my Jedi tricks. :noid
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I 2nd that. Having someone able to talk you through the controller setup is a must to get things done as painlessly as possible.
If your really nice I might be able to share some of my Jedi tricks. :noid
Bruv is the prettiest looking girl in Aces High!
<---waits for free lessons. :D
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Bruv is the prettiest looking girl in Aces High!
<---waits for free lessons. :D
i've been giving you free lessons ever since I started playing. :neener:
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I hope that the FA players do make there way over to AH, it's by far their best option out there now that their game has come to an end, the other flight sims out there are just crap compared to AH, so welcome to AH any FA pilots out there. :salute
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Being forced to play Aces High 2 is like being forced to make babies with Scarlett Johanson.
As much as I like AH 2, making babies with Scarlett Johanson is better. I guess until then, AH 2 will do :).
just saying.
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Not to side track the saving of an entire community but all this talk of Scarlett Johansson justifies a picture because pictures make threads interesting :D
(http://fuzzythoughts.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/scarlettjohansson.jpg)
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motorboat anyone?
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Very...uh...well that is to say...uh...very...er...fluffy .
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Kazaa what is you in-game cpid please!
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Kazaa what is you in-game cpid please!
It's Kazaa.
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That's because Skuzzy is a saint.
How kind, I feel the same way: he's a gentle giant. He keeps our forums clean and stops topics when they go too far- come on Skuzzy, keep herding those cats!
-Penguin
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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How kind, I feel the same way: he's a gentle giant. He keeps our forums clean and stops topics when they go too far- come on Skuzzy, keep herding those cats!
-Penguin
Careful though when Skuzzy makes a sudden turn, would hate to see that neck of yours snap.
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akak said that not me :angel:
I knew KenJr before he moved to FA. He used to claim that he and his father owned a B-17 and offered to fly it to one of the AW Cons and give out rides. Of course, the plane never showed up nor did he to the best of my recollection, at least I didn't see him there. He also promised to supply PCs for the Con as well, and like the B-17, those PCs never showed up either.
ack-ack
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wildbill has added me on facebook and wants to be my friend :uhoh
what do i do?? Ignore or ADD :headscratch:
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wildbill has added me on facebook and wants to be my friend :uhoh
what do i do?? Ignore or ADD :headscratch:
LOL! Honestly, I always thought his handle was amusing since all he did was fly trash haulers in the AF.
ack-ack
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Maybe he's looking for AH tips Bruv? :D
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Apparently you need a thicker skin to mingle here. Welcome those who care to try this out or let 'em stew in their own misery.
This game has one of the highest average ages I've seen through my limited online experience. We have much less of the 12-year-old trashtalk and immature crybabies (note I'm not saying we have zero :D), but we have more adult and gutsy fights because of it. So, I'd say I agree.
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See Rule #4
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Sooo maybe I should look at AH again. Only thing is, about the FM, it really does need some work!!! :bolt:
funny guy fess :)
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I 2nd that. Having someone able to talk you through the controller setup is a must to get things done as painlessly as possible.
If your really nice I might be able to share some of my Jedi tricks. :noid
I think that is the biggest issue. When I left AW I went to WW2OL and simply learning the controls was the biggest challenge. Flew it for a while a few months back and once I had worked out the controls it was actually ok. I have given AH a couple of quick tries and it is ok. Setup is so important as we need to feel comfortable with the controls in order to make good decisions. I will miss the padlock and full screen view but I did ok without it in AW and will manage to do it again. I do like the TrackIR support though and the more realistic FM :)
Do not know where I will end up, I do know that it will be weekends only so the learning process is going to be pretty long and slow. It happens :)
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funny guy fess :)
Did not think I would let you down m8.
Seems you may get me in here on a more regular basis after all lol
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I am going to make some general statements here.
First, anyone from "Fighter Ace" is welcome here. I know little about that game, but it cannot feel good your choice product/service/game is shutting down. That, in of itself, can be very frustrating for those who made it a home to feed their zest for flying and fighting in the WWII genre.
Switching to any other sim/game is going to be a challenge. The initial desire to compare the differences between the old and new is unavoidable. For some, finding the flaw in the new is a right of passage to start feeling comfortable with the new. Losing that feeling like you are cheating on an old friend can be difficult. We would like to do whatever we can to help ease that transition.
Hopefully we can save some time and get that comfort level up as quick as possible. Aces High is not perfect. It has flaws. We work everyday on solving them. In the process, we might even add some more flaws, which we will work on again. While it is never our intent to add flaws to the game, it does happen.
One area we pride ourselves is our flight models. We have a pretty good library of data available on every plane in the game. However, like anything in a book, it can be subject to interpretation, depending on the nature of the data. We know that. We welcome anyone to join in the "Aircraft and Vehicles" forum who has solid data on a model which could help improve our modeling. We do not accept the "History Channel", "Discovery Channel", "Wikipedia" nor "a pilots observations" as qualified references for flight modeling. If you go into that forum and state, "The flight model is wrong", you will not get very far. If you are not willing to post sources for your data, it will not change a thing. We have to have sources for the data so it can be verified.
Ok, next. I see some tension between the forums occurring in this thread and I would ask everyone to please drop it. What happens at other forums should stay there. It is too easy to take things out of context when all parties are not involved. It also serves to provide a disruptive start for those who are having to find a new home for their hobby. Just place yourself in their position. There is always a certain amount of pride involved in our choices. If someone makes a derogatory remark about your choice, you will defend it. It is human nature. So let's not go down that path. It serves no purpose other than to plant a seed of angst/frustration/anger.
Everyone here has a basic foundation to build from. A love of the WW2 flight genre. It is a good place to start forging new relationships and welcoming those who are losing a dear friend.
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Do not know where I will end up, I do know that it will be weekends only so the learning process is going to be pretty long and slow. It happens :)
If you and any other FA players that come over need help, just ask. There are some great people here that are very willing to help out. The training arena is a great place to start. You will find that the learning curve can be pretty steep here. I can imagine that the transition from FA to AH may be overwhelming for many. Don't hesitate to ask questions here.
I hope that you and other FA players can think of AH as a new home. Either way, Good luck. :salute
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Yet another reason why I want to have Skuzzy's babies.
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The Ace High Trainer Corp is ready to help.
If nothing else works any FA pilot can contact me at
ghosth@netaces.org
Or PM me here.
We will endeavor to make your transition as painless as possible.
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The "TA" (training arena) is the place to start for sure, beyond that many others are willing to help. I'd milk bruv (and all others) for all you can as well. If your flying knights 71SQD was actually started by a few (3 I think) guys who came over from FA years ago. We use vox 171 (the far right channel with the "V" on radio text buffer). We've got an open channel policy on squad vox and any FA guys are more then welcome to fly along with us while you get settled in....
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The "TA" (training arena) is the place to start for sure, beyond that many others are willing to help. I'd milk bruv (and all others) for all you can as well. If your flying knights 71SQD was actually started by a few (3 I think) guys who came over from FA years ago. We use vox 171 (the far right channel with the "V" on radio text buffer). We've got an open channel policy on squad vox and any FA guys are more then welcome to fly along with us while you get settled in....
I'm not to sure about being milked but yea the general sentiments are there :aok
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Hi all! Former FAer here. While I was bummed about FA going under I must say that after flying a bit in the offline mode and checking out the website/forums i'm pretty stoked about AH!
I'm the Training Officer for an FA Squad called The Wrecking Crew (actually a gaming clan as we have presence in several different games), and we're trying to figure out where we want to call home. A few of us have flown AH before and really like the challenge of a more realistic FM.
Im in the process of setting up my stick, and plan on being in game tomorrow evening. Looking forward to getting shot down by many of you over the next ???? days/week/years that it takes to learn the new game.
Let the hazing begin!
TWC_Jaxx :cool:
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Hi all! Former FAer here. While I was bummed about FA going under I must say that after flying a bit in the offline mode and checking out the website/forums i'm pretty stoked about AH!
I'm the Training Officer for an FA Squad called The Wrecking Crew (actually a gaming clan as we have presence in several different games), and we're trying to figure out where we want to call home. A few of us have flown AH before and really like the challenge of a more realistic FM.
Im in the process of setting up my stick, and plan on being in game tomorrow evening. Looking forward to getting shot down by many of you over the next ???? days/week/years that it takes to learn the new game.
Let the hazing begin!
TWC_Jaxx :cool:
<S> sir. cant wait for more action with FA flyers :aok
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Welcome Jaxx, if you (or any other former FA players) see me online, more than willing to provide a target so you can try out things in Ah.
Wurzel
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I'm the Training Officer for an FA Squad called The Wrecking Crew (actually a gaming clan as we have presence in several different games), and we're trying to figure out where we want to call home. A few of us have flown AH before and really like the challenge of a more realistic FM.
If you have time, I am more than willing to work with you or your squadron as they come over to Aces High.
Drop me a message on these forums or e-mail me if you're interested in making the steep climb to comfort within AH a little easier.
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If you have time, I am more than willing to work with you or your squadron as they come over to Aces High.
Drop me a message on these forums or e-mail me if you're interested in making the steep climb to comfort within AH a little easier.
Thanks, Sir! I will take you up on that offer. I'm already digging all the AC data you guys make availalble. I spent hours and hours flight testing AC in FA to build a solid data set and was not looking forward to doing it all over in AH.
Are there posts that show recomended stick configs? We have a lot using X52s and 3d pros. :salute
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All of the trainers here are glad to help anyone with the transition. People get used to the atmosphere and feel of a game, so I'm sure it's disappointing to have to start over. We can try to make it easier. I trust you'll grow to appreciate Aces High.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/planeperf.php
From the homepage, community > scores & stats > plane performance charts.
If you click on search here on the forums and type in X52 profiles that should get some results....
Personally I prefer setting up each button manually so you can work out what button does what. If anyone flies with CH stick / pedals / rudders I can send them my profile.
To make things easier you could spend some time in the keyboard mapper and change all of the default keys to do the same things as they did in FA. Like Ctrl + W for WEP or B for brakes, G for gears, D/ F for flaps etc.
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Careful though when Skuzzy makes a sudden turn, would hate to see that neck of yours snap.
ack-ack
This post probably has some hidden meaning, but I am currently in the state of ignorance to its finer nuances; care to elaborate?
-Penguin
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I think he is referring to the Jekyll & Hyde thing. On one hand I have a heck of a sense of humor and can be quite jovial and easy going, until the forum rules get violated. Then I turn into your worst nightmare. Violate them over the weekend, when we are closed, and I will be a complete arse about it.
It is pretty simple really. I give what I get. Show the forums and people no respect and expect none to come back at you.
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Not to side track the saving of an entire community but all this talk of Scarlett Johansson justifies a picture because pictures make threads interesting :D
(http://fuzzythoughts.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/scarlettjohansson.jpg)
Not that great looking. Sorry bud, there's some retouching to be done on her skin. The light, is terrible (almost like the headlights of a car :uhoh ). Finally, she looks like she's either drunk, high, or sleep deprived because of that glazed look in the eye.
-Penguin
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Thanks, Sir! I will take you up on that offer. I'm already digging all the AC data you guys make availalble. I spent hours and hours flight testing AC in FA to build a solid data set and was not looking forward to doing it all over in AH.
Are there posts that show recomended stick configs? We have a lot using X52s and 3d pros. :salute
First off Welcome to the forums :salute second here are some sites you should check out if you want some comparison data.
http://netaces.org/ : good overall site with tactics and other links to get you started.
http://gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php : really cool site thats easy to use in comparing FM data against planes.
http://members.shaw.ca/soda_p/models.htm :This one has model specific write ups that detail how to fight in/against other aircraft.
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I think he is referring to the Jekyll & Hyde thing. On one hand I have a heck of a sense of humor and can be quite jovial and easy going, until the forum rules get violated. Then I turn into your worst nightmare. Violate them over the weekend, when we are closed, and I will be a complete arse about it.
It is pretty simple really. I give what I get. Show the forums and people no respect and expect none to come back at you.
Aha! That makes sense- nobody likes to work on their day off. Yet trouble never rests, sleeps or recharges.
-Penguin
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Welcome to all the FA players.
I can relate to what you are going through. Like many other AW players I migrated to AH after AW was shut down.
The transition can take some time but the same basic fundamentals of aerial combat still apply.
AH has a good community that is willing to help those that are willing to learn. We have WW1 now too, and that's still new for all of us.
Take advantage of all the help that is available and the transition wont be bad at all.
:salute
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I'd milk bruv (and all others) for all you can as well.
Hehehe...Bruv has a new title...the wet nurse of AH! :D
ack-ack
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Hello I am also a FA refugee. I just downloaded AH2 yesterday and the learning curve is going to be steep so I can use all the help the community can give :) I look forward to the challenge and will probably stay offline for a bit.
:salute Vampire
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Hello I am also a FA refugee. I just downloaded AH2 yesterday and the learning curve is going to be steep so I can use all the help the community can give :) I look forward to the challenge and will probably stay offline for a bit.
:salute Vampire
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dont forget to check out the offline missions section, you can download some user made missions, or try and make your own using the mission editor :D
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Hello I am also a FA refugee. I just downloaded AH2 yesterday and the learning curve is going to be steep so I can use all the help the community can give :) I look forward to the challenge and will probably stay offline for a bit.
:salute Vampire
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Offline won't be a good idea if you think the learning curve is steep...it was the offline mode that kept me from jumping into AH 2 years earlier.
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Hello I am also a FA refugee. I just downloaded AH2 yesterday and the learning curve is going to be steep so I can use all the help the community can give :) I look forward to the challenge and will probably stay offline for a bit.
:salute Vampire
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well maybe just until August 1st?
Always welcome on our vent vampire.
:salute
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Are there posts that show recomended stick configs? We have a lot using X52s and 3d pros. :salute
If you do a search of the forums you'll find plenty of threads on x52 & 3d pros profiles.
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Actually "offline" is great for getting everything configured. Just getting all the custom views set, for whatever planes you might fly, can take some time.
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Hello I am also a FA refugee. I just downloaded AH2 yesterday and the learning curve is going to be steep so I can use all the help the community can give :) I look forward to the challenge and will probably stay offline for a bit.
:salute Vampire
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welcome to AcesHigh the greatest WW2 combat sim by far, FA was kinda fun, that was what I started with in 04. you should enjoy AH very much, screw the offline play, unless it's the missions, pull up your pants and jump into the late war arena it is a BLAST :aok
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Thanks Bruv!
Offline won't be a good idea if you think the learning curve is steep...it was the offline mode that kept me from jumping into AH 2 years earlier.
What do you mean offline is not a good idea?
Actually "offline" is great for getting everything configured. Just getting all the custom views set, for whatever planes you might fly, can take some time.
Yeah I am definately using it for setup. And if I move online too soon I will just be lost. I know I am going to get shot down repeatedly but I at least want to be familar with the controls and views.
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Yeah I am definately using it for setup. And if I move online too soon I will just be lost. I know I am going to get shot down repeatedly but I at least want to be familar with the controls and views.
I remember being "lost" in this game...it was Great.
Welcome. :aok
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Thanks I am looking forward to the journey! If you love WWII planes and pilots you just can't stop because your game goes out of business!
Look forward to getting to know you all. :salute
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after checking their forums I see some of them talking about warbirds and wildbill is going to save them all :noid
I'm still subscribing to Warbirds but find it to suck compared to AH. I can't quite define it but generally find the graphics to be more cartoonish and the response to be somehow laggy when I compare it to AH.
I still haven't cancelled because I can't be bothered to go over there and drop a turd in the punchbowl - but that day is coming, and I expect it to be a nice load of high-pressure bean w/shredded beef, as opposed to a discrete and well-formed baloney-oid.
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Thanks I am looking forward to the journey! If you love WWII planes and pilots you just can't stop because your game goes out of business!
Look forward to getting to know you all. :salute
once you get your feet wet with the game check the AvA, its a historical setup arena with No icons.
ahevents.org is also a good site to see some of the events and times.
:salute and welcome
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If your gonna do offline first at least do the offline missions, those will definitely get you ready for online play.
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You guys are missing what is important for any new person coming to Aces High. Offline is a great way to get used to the user interface, all the commands, the configuration options, getting sticks setup, testing flight models and a plethora of other things that have to be done before you can actually "play" the game.
Let them take thier time. There is no rush for them to get online. They certainly can use the offline missions if they want and when they are ready.
One thing I caution about flying offline is, do not use the external views as a crutch to see what is going on. That will wreck any chance of you being able to enjoy the game.
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Thanks I am looking forward to the journey! If you love WWII planes and pilots you just can't stop because your game goes out of business!
Look forward to getting to know you all. :salute
:aok
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You can get a lot out of offline play, You can get your field and carrier landings down, and in the offline missions, you can practice your gunnery and get the feel for maneuvers.
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My advice is don't join the first squad that asks if you'd like to join. There are many, many squads and if you shop around, you will find one that suits your play style and/or personality. Welcome to our addiction. :salute
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You guys are missing what is important for any new person coming to Aces High. Offline is a great way to get used to the user interface, all the commands, the configuration options, getting sticks setup, testing flight models and a plethora of other things that have to be done before you can actually "play" the game.
Yeah, what Skuzzy said. I flew offline for close to a month. I used to fly Falcon4.0 and needed to learn the new keyboard commands, view system, how to take off, fly without crashing, land without crashing, etc. etc. :D Last thing I wanted to do is waste my free two-week trial by just trying to get airborne and do basic pilot stuff.
To the Fighter Aces guys who are thinking of coming over to Aces High...welcome. I'm sure you'll find more people willing to help and form new friendships with, than the few truely ultra melon numpties who's only goal in life is to pee on everyone's cornflakes. If you bring your FA squaddies, there's no reason you can't re-form the squad here. But in any case, fly around and see who flies and fights the way you want and ask if they'd be willing to let you tag along for a while. No reason to join up or expect anyone to ask you to join up with a squad right away.
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Hello all ex FA players.
Im the one to ask about stuff around here, the AH community looks up to me immensly. I used to fly F4 Phantom in Vietnam, F16a in Gulf War 1, and AH64 in Afghanistan, IRL of course. Im currently not ingame much, since im on a undercover mission in Iran, doing some work here for the CIA.
But if you have any questions, dont hesitate to PM me.
And never forget, if you aint with us, you are against us.
:salute
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Thanks Bruv!
What do you mean offline is not a good idea?
Yeah I am definately using it for setup. And if I move online too soon I will just be lost. I know I am going to get shot down repeatedly but I at least want to be familar with the controls and views.
what planes do you like/ have an interest in?
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Offline won't be a good idea if you think the learning curve is steep...it was the offline mode that kept me from jumping into AH 2 years earlier.
Offline is a good way to get familiar with the flight model before dipping your toes into the wading pool. It's also a good way to practice gunnery skills to practice how to lead the target.
ack-ack
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Also while warming up to the game checkout the community here, from the events and scenarios to the custom sounds forum/guys. Upgrading the sounds in AH is a huge improvement and worth the time/trouble, but not worth the trouble for those less-than mediocer PC users (the process requires diving into your game files, cutting, copying and pasting your sound folder(s)).
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Hello all ex FA players.
Im the one to ask about stuff around here, the AH community looks up to me immensly. I used to fly F4 Phantom in Vietnam, F16a in Gulf War 1, and AH64 in Afghanistan, IRL of course. Im currently not ingame much, since im on a undercover mission in Iran, doing some work here for the CIA.
But if you have any questions, dont hesitate to PM me.
And never forget, if you aint with us, you are against us.
:salute
You forgot to add when you're not doing super duper secret missions for the CIA, you're busy helping Chalenge write the next and greatest flight sim.
¡Vive el escorpión rojo!
ack-ack
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Im the one to ask about stuff around here, the AH community looks up to me immensly.
...I've never heard of you.
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Also while warming up to the game checkout the community here, from the events and scenarios to the custom sounds forum/guys. Upgrading the sounds in AH is a huge improvement and worth the time/trouble, but not worth the trouble for those less-than mediocer PC users (the process requires diving into your game files, cutting, copying and pasting your sound folder(s)).
Actually, adding a custom soundpack just requires replacing your old, empty, default Sounds folder with a new Sounds folder(the soundpack). Only takes a few seconds once the pack is downloaded.
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Just remember all you Cherrys!!! You have to deack all the fields with Spit 1s until a Gold furom member tells you that its now ok to VULCH!!!!!
:devil
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Actually, adding a custom soundpack just requires replacing your old, empty, default Sounds folder with a new Sounds folder(the soundpack). Only takes a few seconds once the pack is downloaded.
Especially now that all the default sounds are contained in a "low priority" .res file. If you add any custom sounds to the sounds folder, it gets used instead of the one in the .res file.
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BANZAI_SPARKS here another FAer thought I would give your game a chance,besides i love fighting Vampire,so if you guys can handle some new baby seals there just might be a lot of Banzai coming over.
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BANZAI_SPARKS here another FAer thought I would give your game a chance,besides i love fighting Vampire,so if you guys can handle some new baby seals there just might be a lot of Banzai coming over.
The more the merrier, I think you'll find the AH community to be a great one and were glad to welcome any refuges from FA. I know it has to suck losing your game but maybe in the long run you'll come to enjoy AH just as, if not more then FA, so welcome to the sky's of AH. :salute
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Welcome to the game gents.
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You guys are missing what is important for any new person coming to Aces High. Offline is a great way to get used to the user interface, all the commands, the configuration options, getting sticks setup, testing flight models and a plethora of other things that have to be done before you can actually "play" the game.
Let them take thier time. There is no rush for them to get online. They certainly can use the offline missions if they want and when they are ready.
One thing I caution about flying offline is, do not use the external views as a crutch to see what is going on. That will wreck any chance of you being able to enjoy the game.
I played offline for quite some time (6-8 months) before I actually started to play. In fact, some of my fondest memories and best pictures lie in that time. I feel tears of joy welling up just remembering it, I think I'm going to :cry
-Penguin
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BANZAI_SPARKS here another FAer thought I would give your game a chance,besides i love fighting Vampire,so if you guys can handle some new baby seals there just might be a lot of Banzai coming over.
Welcome and enjoy your stay.
ack-ack
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Noo! I feel, n00bs in the force... strong in numbers, oh lord have mercy!
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Wellcome to all new FA refugees. I moved here from FA back in 02 and never looked back, good friends and a good game. It will take awhile to get used to but it is worth the effort.
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I do want to see anybody from Fighter Ace III who is trying Aces High 2 out treated with respect and helped to adapt to the controls. Most people here are good guys, and a few gals, but sometimes the obnoxious ones go the extra mile to be the ones remembered.
I guess this post is for both new players looking into a possible place to continue hanging out with friends, as well as a place to meet new friends, as well as the Aces High players who have been here for years. Remember, none of us started knowing it all, so lets not play the part of snobbish know-it-alls.
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Maybe one of you guys from FA can go over there and post in the forums that the majority of us over here aren't bashing FA & would welcome any players from FA over to AH because I saw on your forums that some people think thats the way we all feel when it's really just a couple bad eggs.
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Maybe one of you guys from FA can go over there and post in the forums that the majority of us over here aren't bashing FA & would welcome any players from FA over to AH because I saw on your forums that some people think thats the way we all feel when it's really just a couple bad eggs.
I have noticed the same thing, I think some under the table deal has been done or something of the likes. I remember you could get text banned in WB for even mentioning AHII while playing. Its also frustrating me not being able to reach out to the Australian players who are going to log on and find 3 people online in Australian prime time. Its like someone purposely wants to keep AHII out of the spotlight except for a smear campaign. :frown:
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BANZAI_SPARKS here another FAer thought I would give your game a chance,besides i love fighting Vampire,so if you guys can handle some new baby seals there just might be a lot of Banzai coming over.
BANZAIIIII!!!!!!!
make sure you bring Bama over too, I'll help him lots :t
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I have noticed the same thing, I think some under the table deal has been done or something of the likes. I remember you could get text banned in WB for even mentioning AHII while playing. Its also frustrating me not being able to reach out to the Australian players who are going to log on and find 3 people online in Australian prime time. Its like someone purposely wants to keep AHII out of the spotlight except for a smear campaign. :frown:
Well Admiral's post didn't get removed and thanks to Ghost I think the message is clear that we are all prepared to lend a hand. Maybe I didn't go about it the right way but hell I can't post from my own account because it was still locked down from ages ago! :rolleyes:.
Luckily I still have enough old friends to get the message across.
Also the owner Mark Vange seems pretty open about discussing other alternatives away from Warbirds. Apart from all the WB's adverts now plastered over the website.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/planeperf.php
Personally I prefer setting up each button manually so you can work out what button does what. If anyone flies with CH stick / pedals / rudders I can send them my profile.
To make things easier you could spend some time in the keyboard mapper and change all of the default keys to do the same things as they did in FA. Like Ctrl + W for WEP or B for brakes, G for gears, D/ F for flaps etc.
Hey m8 I could use that profile. :)
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Hey m8 I could use that profile. :)
You have a combat stick or fighterstick? I have a pretty good template for the combat stick, pro throttle combo if you want to use one as a reference to make your own or to use.
ack-ack
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Do most pilots in AH use track ir? It really wasnt supported in FA (at least as far as I knew), so I've never used it.
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Do most pilots in AH use track ir? It really wasnt supported in FA (at least as far as I knew), so I've never used it.
Been using Track IR in Aces High for over 3 years. I can not fly without it! :aok
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Do most pilots in AH use track ir? It really wasnt supported in FA (at least as far as I knew), so I've never used it.
I wouldn't say most, but there definitely are pilots that use it.
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Do most pilots in AH use track ir? It really wasnt supported in FA (at least as far as I knew), so I've never used it.
Quite a few pilots do use Track IR, I have played around with a squaddies setup and I have to say that it is immersive but I never felt comfortable with the thing on my head and keeping my neck still.
Even watching him fly he seems to concentrate far too much on looking at the cons rather than using his dam throttles and pedals to get on the Bad guys six!! (u know who you are :P)
For 1 vs 1 's I see it working well but in multi-con engagements I would prefer the instant Hat views.
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I do. AH supports it.
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Do most pilots in AH use track ir? It really wasnt supported in FA (at least as far as I knew), so I've never used it.
I can't fly without it anymore. Would rather give up my pedals than my TIR. ;)
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I've tried Track IR several times... I owned a 2, a 3 and now a Track IR 4. I simply cannot get comfortable using my head instead of the ease of hat switches, which I've used since 1993.
I'm waiting for true VR headsets to be viable with a large enough resolution.
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Welcome FA guys, ex FA2 flyer here, left when IL2 came out in erm, 2001?
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I'm waiting for true VR headsets to be viable with a large enough resolution.
Yeah thats gonna be sweet, it'll be like actually being in the cockpit, I just hope when a good one comes out that it's not some ungodly price.
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Been using Track IR in Aces High for over 3 years. I can not fly without it! :aok
You can't fly with it either. /joke.
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Welcome FA guys, ex FA2 flyer here, left when IL2 came out in erm, 2001?
Only took you 10+ years to find your way into AH2? Better late the never I guess.
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Do most pilots in AH use track ir? It really wasnt supported in FA (at least as far as I knew), so I've never used it.
It's supported 100% in AH2, make sure your "Track IR views" box is checked in your settings.
AH2's view system is so good that I feel Track IR doesn't really give you as much of an advantage which you get in other games.
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It's supported 100% in AH2, make sure your "Track IR views" box is checked in your settings.
AH2's view system is so good that I feel Track IR doesn't really give you as much of an advantage which you get in other games.
I use TIR, not for an advantage, but for more immersion.
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AH2's view system is so good that I feel Track IR doesn't really give you as much of an advantage which you get in other games.
Yeah AH2 has an extremely good view system already in place, you might find you like using the hat better then using TrackIR.
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AH2's view system is so good that I feel Track IR doesn't really give you as much of an advantage which you get in other games.
agree 100%, view system is so nice in AH i don't have a need for Track IR
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I came over from FA. lol
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The AA's would be more than happy to wing with any of the FA'ers and help any way we can. We already have a great time in AH, and would like the new cartoon pilots to experience the same level of enjoyment.
<<S>>
AAJagerX
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You have a combat stick or fighterstick? I have a pretty good template for the combat stick, pro throttle combo if you want to use one as a reference to make your own or to use.
ack-ack
I have the fighterstick / pro throttle and pedals.
I will be able to set up a workable profile fairly quickly and then can add / tweak as I find things that I need to be able to do.
Cheers
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Quite a few pilots do use Track IR, I have played around with a squaddies setup and I have to say that it is immersive but I never felt comfortable with the thing on my head and keeping my neck still.
Even watching him fly he seems to concentrate far too much on looking at the cons rather than using his dam throttles and pedals to get on the Bad guys six!! (u know who you are :P)
For 1 vs 1 's I see it working well but in multi-con engagements I would prefer the instant Hat views.
Cant fly without trackir now - and yes, I know I need to work on using pedals and throttle more, cheers for reminding me Bruv :neener:
Wurzel
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OK, so here I am....After checking out Warbirds and Aces High2, I have decided that Aces High would be the better game for me to join after my beloved FA shuts down.(sob)..... And I certainly will have questions when it comes to the joystick setup!...BTW, about this Track IR, is this using the mouse to mimic your head movements?...If so, I`ll stick with the hat functions....Looking forward to meeting everyone, and for you old guys, we former FA guys just might surprise you when we meet up in the skies!...... ;)
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BTW, about this Track IR, is this using the mouse to mimic your head movements?
It's a totally stand-alone system (as in it doesn't "steal" use of your mouse, keyboard buttons, ect; it works on its own) that uses a camera and headgear to watch the motions of your head. As you tilt, pan, strafe, or rotate your head, the game's viewpoint moves. Obviously it's scaled up so that you don't have to turn your head all the way around to check your 6... :D
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OK, so here I am....After checking out Warbirds and Aces High2, I have decided that Aces High would be the better game for me to join after my beloved FA shuts down.(sob)..... And I certainly will have questions when it comes to the joystick setup!...BTW, about this Track IR, is this using the mouse to mimic your head movements?...If so, I`ll stick with the hat functions....Looking forward to meeting everyone, and for you old guys, we former FA guys just might surprise you when we meet up in the skies!...... ;)
1st: Welocme! :)
2nd: A vid tells more than a thousand worlds. Here is one from the manufacturer's page, showing perfectly how TR works
http://media.naturalpoint.com/video/gamedemo/trackir4_and_aces_high_2-500kbps.wmv
See how the player's head is moving, and how that does translate into view movement in game.
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See how the player's head is moving, and how that does translate into view movement in game.
Yes, and, although Lusche doesn't explicitly mention it, the gain (head movement to in-game head movement) is completely tune-able in, if I recall properly (away from gaming keyboard right now), all 3 axes of rotation, and probably in the translationals as well. I always tune my profile a little aggressively in head yaw.
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Welcome FA guys - hope you find AH2 a worthy alternative. You'll find the majority of people here will be welcoming and only too happy to help with the transition. The small number of prats we have to deal with area easily ignored.
Regarding Track IR - ignore anyone recommending it. What will happen if you try it is that when you're not flying into the ground trying to track some guy above you, you'll be barfing into a wastepaper basket beside your computer. Or maybe that's just me :D
Seriously, many of my squadies swear by it, but I just can't get to grips with it. I'm a natural head mover - my head moves in the same direction as my joystick - and that just doesn't work with track-ir. As other have said, the views in AH2 are pretty good without it.
Once again - welcome.
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Yeah, don't get the impression you need TrackIR. Most people don't use it.
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Welcome all FA members.
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Yeah, don't get the impression you need TrackIR. Most people don't use it.
Spot on. I use head-tracking, as do several of my squaddies, but you absolutely do not need it to play AH. It's just a nice way to get more immersion in the game. Aces High's view system is pretty darned good as it is, with huge customization capability, so your hat switch will still get plenty of use.
You're also not locked into using it if you hook one up. You can turn head-tracking off and on with one key press. In addition, AH's hat views work well in tandem with head-tracking, so that you can run TrackIR, and if you're just too busy to move your head or whatever, just hit your rear view on the hat switch and AH will momentarily override the TIR system. Let go the hat switch, and you're back to head-tracking. Best of both worlds.
Also, TrackIR is the standard for this stuff, but if you're on a budget, you can download a free system called FreeTrack (just google it). It's not as slick as TIR, but it's free. You have to do-it-yourself a bit, but it'll save you a lot of money. I use Freetrack in combination with a TrackIR LED headclip ($35 if bought separately). Works fine for me, but YMMV.
You'll find that AH, by design or happy accident, is highly configurable, customizable, scalable, and offers lots of side-activities to keep you busy, even when you're not playing the game itself. You can make historical a/c skins, maps and terrains, develop offline missions, cobble together video AARs and machinimas, create custom soundpacks, organize or participate in scenarios and mini-scenarios, join a racing league... and... and... (what'd I forget?). Lots of folks build simpits for this addiction, and AH works great with 3-monitor+head-tracking systems. I cobbled mine together for pennies on the dollar. In short, if you get bored with arena play, you'll find a lot to do on the side.
Welcome to Aces High. :salute
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For the FA guys, another important thing when setting up your controllers is scaling your stick within AH. Go to the Help forums and search for "stick scaling" and you'll find a few threads with screenshots of different stick scale settings as well as some with instructions on how to manually edit your stick scale settings in the joystick config file.
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For the FA guys, another important thing when setting up your controllers is scaling your stick within AH.
ack-ack
Yeah, that's gonna be HUGE. No such thing existed in FA.
I finally got in the air a bit last night and absolutely loved it. There is so much to learn, though. Almost overwhelming... :x
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There is so much to learn, though. Almost overwhelming... :x
Relish this time, it is the best one you can have... everything is new and exciting, you will learn something each sortie, you will notice quick improvements in many areas, and there are still so many things you haven't done yet. Each sortie brings something new. :aok
I wish I could be that "new" again. ;)
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Lusche, have a short term memory problem like me, every day is a new adventure lol......
I have real problems remembering stuff from a couple of days ago, but can remember from years ago...go figure.
Wurzel
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Again I'd like to emphasize that one of the last things on the to-do list for you new FA players to AH is to concern yourself with track-IR. I personaly don't use it, I find the hatbutton+keypad very compfy and adequate for my purposes, and as others have described themselves I'm a natural head-mover (and I like watching some TV when autoclimbing above 10k).
On the top of the list should be just getting the game up in offline mode and tweaking with your flight options and joystick configurations (stick scaleing (remember for each axis), dampening, button assignments, etc.). Also take this time to disable your stall limitier in your flight options. This is a handy tool for newcomers to flight simming where stalling ones plane isn't a major factor in other games. In short with it turned off you can turn tighter and pull more "agressive" manuversm you also however can put your plane into a stall... not saying it won't be fun but if you're gonna dive into getting some experience recovering from stalls, no better time than now if you think it wont overwhelm you. Last thing I'd do in offline mode before diving into some player vs player action is experiment with various gun packages and convergences and shooting down the unmanned drones in offline mode at various ranges with those various converges. Figure out what distances you like taking your kill shots and adjust your selection of weaponry and convergences for that weaponry accordingly.
Don't hesitate diving into the multiplayer arenas once you feel compfy with the basics of this game. If you have a good fight with someone (win or loose), try to send them a private whisper in the arena thanking them for a good fight, and then prod around for any feedback/input from them for improvement to your flying. Most people are constructive enough in this community to help twords your benefit (if they have the time and aren't otherwise occupied in the game). You're sure to run into some bad apples too in our community (it's inevitable), but it'll be easy to figure out whos wasting your time and who is willing to go outa their way and take some of their time to try and help you (and there are many that will help you if you ask and break teh water, from those offering a couple helpful words to a couple helpful hours in the TA with you).
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Welcome FA castaways. Get the most out of your 2 weeks free.
1.Set up off line. Test and retest views and joystick mapping till it feels like home.
2.Ask a bunch of dumb arsed questions in the designated forum. We were all new and asked so someone knows.
3.Do fly the off line missions. While not the best ACM it will give you practice with the FM.
4.Ack Ack is not evil incarnate... that is my job. :D
Again welcome.. once you become use to this place you'll wonder why you didn't switch sooner. :salute
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4.Ack Ack is not evil incarnate... that is my job. :D
I agree. I'm not evil, I'm just misunderstood. :devil
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Ok...A real dumb-ass question.....Really....I`m slowly getting the joystick calibration right....Hat switches, check.....Start in offline and crash...No prob, but,(sheepishly) how do you re-set to fly again?..I`m sitting there, like a fool, waiting for the game to automatically put me back in a new plane to fly again, but I just sit there with a bent prop and crumbled wing :rolleyes:.....I downloaded the quick reference guide but I guess I`m just a stunned individual....Also, is there a detailed manual to download?.....And explain "scaling"....Told you....
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Ok...A real dumb-ass question.....Really....I`m slowly getting the joystick calibration right....Hat switches, check.....Start in offline and crash...No prob, but,(sheepishly) how do you re-set to fly again?..I`m sitting there, like a fool, waiting for the game to automatically put me back in a new plane to fly again, but I just sit there with a bent prop and crumbled wing :rolleyes:.....I downloaded the quick reference guide but I guess I`m just a stunned individual....Also, is there a detailed manual to download?.....And explain "scaling"....Told you....
/ brings up text bar then .ef . :aok
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click "End Sortie" on the clipboard map will put you back in the tower
Welcome :salute
Edit: And what bronk said :lol
Beat me to it
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ESC for clipboard, click "end sortie" to get back into tower. from there, spawn again or just click on "hangar" to select any other plane
Among tons of other useful information, you will find also a Quick Reference Sheet on the Aces High Trainer Corps Website (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/)
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Bring up your clipboard by hitting the ESC key & hit "End Sortie", or you can bring up the radio by hitting the "/" key and type in ".ef" to end flight.
The game uses a lot of dot commands you type into the radio, you should read up on these.
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Scaling is a balancing act.
Too much scaling can indeed cause nose bounce, too little and your stick can be too responsive to be able to fly with comfortably. However the opposite end of the spectrum can also cause nose bounce. Where you have a sensitive stick, and scaling maxed, any input can cause the plane to veer almost violently from where it was heading with the slightest touch.
As a general rule old wise hands with CH gear can often do without scaling, or have them set where Mtnman has.
Newer hands or more sensitive sticks take some scaling to dial down the input.
Mtnman is I believe the exception not the rule. Most players probably do not have the control to be able to fly well with pitch scaled across the top on most sticks.
On the plus side, yes, that gives you the greatest amount of control possible. But it leaves it all up to you, a single twitch of the stick too hard can cause you to stall and lose the fight.
On the negative side it can be very hard for a new pilot to learn to fly smoothly that way.
Almost impossible with some sticks I would say.
The right answer for most people, especially new pilots is going to lay somewhere in the middle.
Good stick + Good hands = aggressive upward curve.
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Whats right for you only you can say.
And this should about cover it:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,218269.msg2621619.html#msg2621619
( :salute Ghost)
Edit: Actually lets hear what AckAck has to input on this, he's put effort into the past in explaining/helping with stick scaling more than i have.
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Airwolf, there really are no dumb questions. I would rather deal with a 1,000 questions upfront, than one person aggravated by continually trying to figure out by themselves and waiting until they are ready to explode before asking a question.
You know. The difference between:
"Hey guys, how to restart after you crash?"
or
"This is the most fraked up piece of shizz software I have ever dealt with! How the frakin hell do you start another flight?!?!?!?!"
Do you really need to guess which person is more fun to deal with? :)
I know, I know, expecting a guy to ask for directions is counter to everything we have been taught as men.
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fraked
you watched BSG didn't you? hijack over
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Ok...A real dumb-ass question.....Really....I`m slowly getting the joystick calibration right....Hat switches, check.....Start in offline and crash...No prob, but,(sheepishly) how do you re-set to fly again?..I`m sitting there, like a fool, waiting for the game to automatically put me back in a new plane to fly again, but I just sit there with a bent prop and crumbled wing :rolleyes:.....I downloaded the quick reference guide but I guess I`m just a stunned individual....Also, is there a detailed manual to download?.....And explain "scaling"....Told you....
Alt + F4
You heard it here first.
You have been assimilated.
wrongway
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When in doubt
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/ (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/)
Also the Training Arena is a great place to experiment with planes.
Try out ACM, get some gunnery practice, etc.
Just ask before shooting. Not everyone is there to be shot at without warning.
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Yes, this place has a training arena, a dueling arena, several main arenas and special arenas. It's like a WWII aerial Dojo.
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Who are all these people...the names seem familiar...but the posts...they...they.....hmmmm m it's gone all mushy :lol :lol :lol....
Seriously though....there is a huge amount of willing and informed people within this community....Any avatar with AH trainers corps are tops for info on learning and many have particular areas of expertise.....but not only them...this place is full of wisdom (and not just game related) just, as skuzzy pointed out, ask in a mature and reasonable way and you will be helped...don't and...well...you will see :devil
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When in doubt
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/ (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/)
Also the Training Arena is a great place to experiment with planes.
Try out ACM, get some gunnery practice, etc.
Just ask before shooting. Not everyone is there to be shot at without warning.
This site is a great place to start! Another site I used when I started was :www.netaces.org (http://www.netaces.org)
When I started flying, I didn't have a clue (still don't according to a few people). There was the training arena and one big arena. That was it. Come to think of it, I don't think I landed a plane my first 3 months playing. :D
Lots of people are offering help. That's great to see. Use the off-line training. The best place to start and get used to the flight models.
Good luck. :salute
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Lusche, have a short term memory problem like me, every day is a new adventure lol......
I have real problems remembering stuff from a couple of days ago, but can remember from years ago...go figure.
Wurzel
ROFLMAO ::::cleaning beer off monitor::::::: Thanks ::::: raising fist to sky:::: Dam you 70's :rofl
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I just went and signed up with Warbirds, finally. I logged in and found myself flying a P51. I was duly impressed by the graphics and realism. Here I was finally flying against other real people in some of my favourite historical aircraft over realistic scenery produceed with state of the art graphics. This is the future :salute...............in 2001.
Then I realised that this was not 2001 and I was not playing on my brother's Gateway 486 or was it a 386? Do they still exist? It's 2010 and the world has moved on. I can only wonder what today's generation experienced with Playstation and Xbox graphic heavy games would make of it all. Cartoon like graphics, weird engine sounds. Even a Cessna 150 sounds more fighter like. Scenery is poor and cartoon like.
I actually thought you guys were exaggerating. It really couldn't be that bad? But it is. Now I know AH2 is not state of the art graphically. It can't be given the variety of PC it's customers use. But it always had an immersive quality. I am a pilot in real life too and sometimes AH2 feels like real flying and sometimes real flying reminds me of AH2. Sometime I even do stuff in real life that I previously attempted in AH2 :o That could never happen with warbirds. It's a gamey experience, arcadey in fact.
One of the most unsurprising aspects was the lack of people there. 49 tonight. When you are used to hundreds in the AH main arena. This is shocking.
But the really unfortunate aspect is the fact that at the moment. I'm out of AH2 due to an unfortunate credit card malfunction. They unreasonably expect you to pay them occasionally. Bankers eh? One rule for them, another for the rest of us. So I am busy flying the real thing in order to pay my bills so I can fly online again and get shot down by all those new FA guys. :( So my only outlet is the two month freebie on Warbirds :(
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I ran into a player who just moved over from FA today.
He seemed like a nice guy and was enjoying AH2,infact he already is participating in FSO so I set the TA to manual calibration and helped him through some of the calibration quirks and if he's an example of the type of players we can expect then I say welcome aboard!
I hope we see a huge influx of new players and they take the time to use some of the resource AH2 has to offer.
:salute
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I was in orange last night and saw a FA player asking questions. Replies were honest and forthcoming. <S> to all of those involved. :cheers:
I was looking at the FA forums today, Skuzzy is there to help anyone interested in more info. <S> Roy. :salute
The mild bashings that have been posted are a bit bothersome though. A few bad apples posting about relations and incidents that happened years ago made it to the FA forums in a matter of minutes and the FA community didn't take very well to the berating of owners and management of FA. :furious
again. :salute all those willing to help the soon to be homeless find a new happy place.
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The mild bashings that have been posted are a bit bothersome though. A few bad apples posting about relations and incidents that happened years ago made it to the FA forums in a matter of minutes and the FA community didn't take very well to the berating of owners and management of FA.
Hi All
Just to let you know Skuzzy and I are keeping a close eye on both forums, and I can assure you they will stay civil. At FA we take a dim view and firm action against players who 'bash' others, the staff, or other games. As you can imagine, we have a lot of upset players who are losing their home of 13 years, and are looking closely at many other games, AH included. We are doing our best to help with the transition, and if you see any post in the FA forums bashing AH, please inform Skuzzy and I will see it's handled immediately.
Thanks to all who have volunteered to help our players, it's much appreciated.
PPS@HQ
Fighter Ace Community Manager
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Hi All
Just to let you know Skuzzy and I are keeping a close eye on both forums, and I can assure you they will stay civil. At FA we take a dim view and firm action against players who 'bash' others, the staff, or other games. As you can imagine, we have a lot of upset players who are losing their home of 13 years, and are looking closely at many other games, AH included. We are doing our best to help with the transition, and if you see any post in the FA forums bashing AH, please inform Skuzzy and I will see it's handled immediately.
Thanks to all who have volunteered to help our players, it's much appreciated.
PPS@HQ
Fighter Ace Community Manager
Good to hear you will be monitoring that very closely. If your feeling any forgiveness in your heart please un ban 'tea_bruv' so I do not break any CoC violations. Now that Skuzzy has access to post I only need to wave goodbye to some former friends.
If not then I wish you well in your future adventures. :salute
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howdee FOLKS!
been lookin over both games this and WB
like the full realism will need time to be assimilated
Im sure BRUV will have plenty of help for me...mostly finding the bail button I suppose
<S>LTD_BERN1
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howdee FOLKS!
been lookin over both games this and WB
like the full realism will need time to be assimilated
Im sure BRUV will have plenty of help for me...mostly finding the bail button I suppose
<S>LTD_BERN1
Enter x3, then O to open the chute? :aok
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Drama....it's EVERYWHERE!!!
Howdy folks! This is Spot, long time FAer. It's good to see some old friends and squadies over here. :salute
Take it easy on the guys and gals as they make the transition to a new home. If ya don't, it might not be a new home.
As far as the end of FA, there is finger pointing in all directions. It's not just one thing or person. So just let it be and welcome the new influx of players here.
Just think, more friends and ENEMIES!!! :banana:
I'll see you all in the skies soon.
~S~ Spot
Oh yeah, don't make too much fun of Admiral's speedos. He has a complex about them. :neener:
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<S> welcome Spotlight, first thing i recommend is detuning channel 200, that's the drama channel, i think you'll find out that most of the AH Community is very cool and very helpful, sure we have a few of the play it how i think you should type , but heck every game has those, its just up to you how much fun you want to have :aok Again Welcome :salute
Edit.... about the Speedo.... um one of our squadies took a pic of him in a bike race.......Bike Speedo :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl we will NEVER let him live that down :rofl :rofl
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Drama....it's EVERYWHERE!!!
Howdy folks! This is Spot, long time FAer. It's good to see some old friends and squadies over here. :salute
Take it easy on the guys and gals as they make the transition to a new home. If ya don't, it might not be a new home.
As far as the end of FA, there is finger pointing in all directions. It's not just one thing or person. So just let it be and welcome the new influx of players here.
Just think, more friends and ENEMIES!!! :banana:
I'll see you all in the skies soon.
~S~ Spot
Oh yeah, don't make too much fun of Admiral's speedos. He has a complex about them. :neener:
Hi Spot,
Once we have ventured past PPS's ankle i'm sure everyone coming over will get a very warm and helpful reception. I look forward to flying with you again. I remember you taking my wing as a noob! ;) we were TEA!!!! GB were the team that ruled the skies!
Good memories. I'll get on late next weekend (Saturday) you have my email addy or send me a PM here with any questions don't hesistate to ask.
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Hi Spot,
Once we have ventured past PPS's ankle i'm sure everyone coming over will get a very warm and helpful reception. I look forward to flying with you again. I remember you taking my wing as a noob! ;) we were TEA!!!! GB were the team that ruled the skies!
Good memories. I'll get on late next weekend (Saturday) you have my email addy or send me a PM here with any questions don't hesistate to ask.
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TEA rule the skies??? not when i was taking your squad on alone :neener:
all kidding aside its great to hear from old friends again cant wait to shoot at you AND with you.
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Bruv's vent server is a refuge for FA players so feel free to come chill with us. I'm sure he's already PMed people with server details.
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Welcome Spot and any other FA players that are considering Aces High. :)
If any of you would like to give Friday Squad Operations (FSO) a try please feel free to PM or e-mail me. I will be glad to get you set up. FSO is a single life event that recreates many of the major air battles of WWII. Campaign Managers (CM's) send out the objectives ahead of time to the CiC that week. The CiC then gives squads on his side (Allied or Axis) specific orders. FSO runs 3 weeks on then 1 week off. We currently have about 450 players attending FSO. Should several FA players wish to give it a try I can arrange your participating with some experienced FSO players that can help show you the ropes till you are up to speed and ready to go it on your own.
Details on all our events can be found here.
http://ahevents.org/
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<S> all former FAer's. Normally, I would be all about spending time with people in the DA or TA but I am in a position now where it is not possible. The lag I have on my system at present would not be good to teach someone with. If you see me online, by all means ask me questions, I will give the best possible answers (according to me :) ).
For those who do not know many of the players here, I would recommend learning from ACK-ACK, WMLute, Kermit, Bruv119 and some others. They are all outstanding sticks in the game and have a wealth of knowledge of how to fight most any air frame.
I am sorry for the loss of FA as I know it would be a challenge to lose the community here in AH.
Once again I bid you welcome and wishes for many a great fight.
WMTom
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Drama....it's EVERYWHERE!!!
Howdy folks! This is Spot, long time FAer. It's good to see some old friends and squadies over here. :salute
Take it easy on the guys and gals as they make the transition to a new home. If ya don't, it might not be a new home.
As far as the end of FA, there is finger pointing in all directions. It's not just one thing or person. So just let it be and welcome the new influx of players here.
Just think, more friends and ENEMIES!!! :banana:
I'll see you all in the skies soon.
~S~ Spot
Oh yeah, don't make too much fun of Admiral's speedos. He has a complex about them. :neener:
Hiya Spot! Nice to see some more familiar faces..
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howdee FOLKS!
been lookin over both games this and WB
like the full realism will need time to be assimilated
Im sure BRUV will have plenty of help for me...mostly finding the bail button I suppose
<S>LTD_BERN1
Howdy Bern!
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:salute TWC_Jaxx Welcome aboard, hope you have a good time playing the game, check everything out, :cheers:
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I ran into a player who just moved over from FA today.
He seemed like a nice guy and was enjoying AH2,infact he already is participating in FSO so I set the TA to manual calibration and helped him through some of the calibration quirks and if he's an example of the type of players we can expect then I say welcome aboard!
I hope we see a huge influx of new players and they take the time to use some of the resource AH2 has to offer.
:salute
Thanks again for that help Morfiend. Was much appreciated and very informative.
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well maybe just until August 1st?
Always welcome on our vent vampire.
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Don't fall for it Vampire.. All Bruv wants to do is play with your goat again.. Remember the last time he played with your goat?!!! (the horror!)
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ps: It's true Vampire own's a goat!
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Hello all ex FA players.
Im the one to ask about stuff around here, the AH community looks up to me immensly. I used to fly F4 Phantom in Vietnam, F16a in Gulf War 1, and AH64 in Afghanistan, IRL of course. Im currently not ingame much, since im on a undercover mission in Iran, doing some work here for the CIA.
But if you have any questions, dont hesitate to PM me.
And never forget, if you aint with us, you are against us.
:salute
Maniac,
I am curious.. Will Verizon ever support the Iphone?
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Oh yeah, don't make too much fun of Admiral's speedos. He has a complex about them. :neener:
I will be using my Speedoman nick to get thru the learning curves of AH2. Unfortunately, my favorite speedo's are no where to be found. Last I saw them was the night you and Bruv asked to borrow some tea..
=s=
Admiral
ps: All you AH2 guys, watch out for Spotlight, he's considered one of the top in FA. He is far better than Bruv ever was.. haha!
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all this talking and I don't see no killing. Things never change :neener:
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I will be using my Speedoman nick to get thru the learning curves of AH2. Unfortunately, my favorite speedo's are no where to be found. Last I saw them was the night you and Bruv asked to borrow some tea..
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Admiral
ps: All you AH2 guys, watch out for Spotlight, he's considered one of the top in FA. He is far better than Bruv ever was.. haha!
8 character max there Drake. Perhaps SexyBait would be more suitable. Hop on The Few channel when you guys are in Orange/Blue MA.
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Admiral,
Would you happen to know if Riddler will be transitioning over to AH2 also? I'm sure he remembers me, I was always the name above his on the scoreboard in BF2. :D
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Lethal,your welcome sir!
TWC Jaxx,I had a chance to help out twcHap this afternoon,again I must say the quality of folks coming over here is great. I just hope I didnt overwhelm him with all the imformation,but he seemed to be catching on quick.
If any of you new guys need any assistance please come to the training arena and dont be afraid to ask questions,if a trainer isnt available there's usually a player or 2 more than willing to help out.
:salute
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Or he could spell it SpotLite
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welcome whoever joins ah. just remember we joke around alot here. dont get frustrated if anybody tells u to press alt f4 for more ammo, or enter 3 times for warp speed. all is done in fun. somebody mentioned to detune 200 channel. I find it quite entertaining, that's where all countries joke, make fun or yell at somebody else. mostly it stays civil ( :confused:), k maybe not but sometimes its more fun to talk on 200 than actually flying, specially late at night. just have fun your way, not how somebody else tells you to play.
semp
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Admiral,
Would you happen to know if Riddler will be transitioning over to AH2 also? I'm sure he remembers me, I was always the name above his on the scoreboard in BF2. :D
I know he's been playing Bad Company 2 when he has the time to play, but will let him know about the move to AH2.
=s=
Admiral
ps: I recently rebuilt my system, redownload AH2 last night and configured my keys. I should be on tonight to rack up some kills .. hehe
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