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Title: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Latrobe on August 08, 2014, 02:08:04 AM
8 years ago I would have never thought this day would come but I have decided to cancel my account for AH2.

When I started playing this game 8+ years ago my only goal was to learn the art of aerial combat, fight everyone and everything, and try to become one of the best fighter pilots in the game. That is the only reason I play this game - for the fights. I do not care about the war. I do not care about the perks. I do not care about getting kills or landing them. I do not care about the chess piece loyalty. I do not care about bombing or gving. I do not care about score. Other people do play this game for those reasons or other reasons, and that's fine but for me it was, has been, and always will be about the fight. These past 2 or 3 years though I have been noticing a severe decline in fights in the MA. These past few months they have almost become non-existent. The last 6 months I have gotten into very few decent fights, most of which have been the result of me having to ask on channel 200 if anyone wants to fight and getting a reply from a close friend in the game. The vast majority of my sorties (I'd say around 98% of them) involve me upping towards a red dar bar, merging with someone, and watching them dive straight to the deck and run to ack. I break off, look for another target, and repeat the same process until I either run out of fuel or bail out from boredom. Heck, I even had one guy PM me asking why I wouldn't fight him! And by fight him he meant "why won't you follow me into my base ack?" This is not what I'm pay $15 a month for.


Biggest <S> to everyone in Aces High 2! You have all been some of the most awesome people I have ever met in my life. I have made so many really good friends from this game from all over the world! I'll still be lurking around the BBS a bit but Latrobe in the MA is no more. If the fighter pilot spirit ever returns to AH2 then maybe I'll make a comeback to the game. Otherwise I don't think I'll be making a return any time in the near future.


Again massive  :salute and farewell my friends.  :cheers:

 :airplane:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: scott66 on August 08, 2014, 02:12:42 AM
Don't go latrobe..I'll treat you too a crab boil tomorrow night all expenses paid..take a break but don't cancel bud..we need all the players we can get and keep the ones that we have especially ones like you..man that was hard to admit LOL :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: RotBaron on August 08, 2014, 02:44:09 AM
 :salute

Hope to see you again. You'll be missed. Thanks for the pointers and training vids you made.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: alskahawk on August 08, 2014, 02:44:28 AM
 Can't say I can disagree with anyone wanting to leave. My squad has lost some good players in the last few months that have dropped their subscription. One was a friend that I started flying these games with back in the early '90s.

Erratic game functions; Bullet drop, bullet dispersion are way off. Too many hits from 800 yards out. Bombers able to hit from 1000+ yards. Dogfighting bombers. Too many HO shot specialists. Large maps that can't be defended with the amount of people playing. Three country system results in the majority of players in two countries attacking the weaker third country. ENY.  Tankers/idle players counting against ENY. Perk system. Erratic damage system. Erratic pilot injuries. Certain planes not performing close to their specifications.  

 There are some fun aspects of the game but much of the fun is fleeting. It doesn't seem like AH cares about fixing these issues (IMO). It's a shame because there is a good game under these problems. Best of luck to you Latrobe. <S>

 
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: danny76 on August 08, 2014, 03:44:57 AM
I am currently in the same frame of mind. Such a shame to lose Latrobe. We are losing the core of players that will actually fight. The cry of "it's my $15" is wearing mighty thin, as are the availability of good fights, and consequently the number of players, in particular, long term, highly skilled ones :old:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: SirNuke on August 08, 2014, 03:59:12 AM
Left for the same reason. I'm not here to attack inanimate objects.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: JimmyC on August 08, 2014, 05:50:26 AM
Was always a pleasure to get my arse handed to me...
Sorry to see you go...
I like a good fight
Even if I get whipped. ...
Again and again
Fair thee well
See you back after your break
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Copprhed on August 08, 2014, 05:58:15 AM
See Rule #7
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: FLOOB on August 08, 2014, 07:23:44 AM
I feel ya Latrobe. The only time I really like playing anymore is when there are only about 60 players online. Anyway, it's aces high you're supposed to take a break every few months. On a year, off a year or two.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BnZs on August 08, 2014, 07:26:15 AM
I promise you 10 fights a week in planes of your choice if you stay. I can only pay up on weekends though. Come on guys, let's pass the fights hat around for Lat.

8 years ago I would have never thought this day would come but I have decided to cancel my account for AH2.

When I started playing this game 8+ years ago my only goal was to learn the art of aerial combat, fight everyone and everything, and try to become one of the best fighter pilots in the game. That is the only reason I play this game - for the fights. I do not care about the war. I do not care about the perks. I do not care about getting kills or landing them. I do not care about the chess piece loyalty. I do not care about bombing or gving. I do not care about score. Other people do play this game for those reasons or other reasons, and that's fine but for me it was, has been, and always will be about the fight. These past 2 or 3 years though I have been noticing a severe decline in fights in the MA. These past few months they have almost become non-existent. The last 6 months I have gotten into very few decent fights, most of which have been the result of me having to ask on channel 200 if anyone wants to fight and getting a reply from a close friend in the game. The vast majority of my sorties (I'd say around 98% of them) involve me upping towards a red dar bar, merging with someone, and watching them dive straight to the deck and run to ack. I break off, look for another target, and repeat the same process until I either run out of fuel or bail out from boredom. Heck, I even had one guy PM me asking why I wouldn't fight him! And by fight him he meant "why won't you follow me into my base ack?" This is not what I'm pay $15 a month for.


Biggest <S> to everyone in Aces High 2! You have all been some of the most awesome people I have ever met in my life. I have made so many really good friends from this game from all over the world! I'll still be lurking around the BBS a bit but Latrobe in the MA is no more. If the fighter pilot spirit ever returns to AH2 then maybe I'll make a comeback to the game. Otherwise I don't think I'll be making a return any time in the near future.


Again massive  :salute and farewell my friends.  :cheers:

 :airplane:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Cremator on August 08, 2014, 07:46:56 AM
Boy that blows. Ive learned a lot from your videos and stuff. You will leave a lasting impression on the game.   :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BnZs on August 08, 2014, 07:56:57 AM
Left for the same reason. I'm not here to attack inanimate objects.

If you guys all leave there will be nothing left for me BUT inanimate objects to attack. And this is the only truly well-designed MMO combat flight sim, so that will be tragic.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BnZs on August 08, 2014, 08:02:49 AM
These past 2 or 3 years though I have been noticing a severe decline in fights in the MA. These past few months they have almost become non-existent. The last 6 months I have gotten into very few decent fights, most of which have been the result of me having to ask on channel 200 if anyone wants to fight and getting a reply from a close friend in the game. The vast majority of my sorties (I'd say around 98% of them) involve me upping towards a red dar bar, merging with someone, and watching them dive straight to the deck and run to ack.

I've got to say old chap, I manage to find people willing to get into mah-neuvering fights with me frequently in today's MA. I note that almost half of your kills last tour were done flying the 109F. Now this is a very maneuverable, but rather slow fighter by LW standards. Moreover you are a known lethal experten in the thing. So naturally you will find people running from you. You have a nice P-51 video on Youtube. Try flying that for awhile. I think you will find most will be unable to run from and will in fact be happy to turn fight a Pony.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Ratsy on August 08, 2014, 08:04:39 AM
Latrobe,
We don't know each other from the main arena.  But I know you from the community because of the generosity of your knowledge and your general involvement in 'what's going on'.

The lakes here in Texas have really suffered in the drought.  Lost shoreline is exposing a lot of ugly.  We don't complain, we just keep hoping it will rain.  We pray for it.  You've got to feel like you're a vanishing breed around here.  I don't think you are.  It's just that the current numbers of players are exposing a lot of ugly, no matter what your game preferences are.

You are entitled to your frustration.  I don't want to see one more player leave the game during this period of low numbers.  I'm hoping that things will turn around and I'm willing to bet they will.

With respect,

Ratsy

Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: SilverZ06 on August 08, 2014, 08:43:46 AM
I completely understand where you are coming from. Just yesterday I had to beg a guy on PMs to quit running to ack and fight me. He was in a superior plane and I was outnumbered by him and his buddies. When he finally decided to stick around and fight we had a great time. I lost 2 out of 3 but had a blast doing it. I do not understand the lack of wanting to fight in this game. It is a combat simulator after all.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Max on August 08, 2014, 08:55:37 AM
Sorry to see you leave Latrobe. You've always been a huge asset to the community.

Game play is what game play is. The pure dogfight, 1v1 from alt down to the deck is a rare commodity...always has been since I arrived in '02. Take a break. The urge will return to play again....always does.

A HUGE  :salute for your training films. I always found them invaluable.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Stampf on August 08, 2014, 09:04:51 AM

<S>

One of the good guys.

Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: aztec on August 08, 2014, 09:17:31 AM
 :salute Latrobe, it was an honor to fly with and against you. I wish you wouldn't leave and also wish all the best to you and yours.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Dragon Tamer on August 08, 2014, 09:22:54 AM
 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: waystin2 on August 08, 2014, 09:43:22 AM
You can check-out anytime you like, but you can never leave...   Enjoy the break Trobe. :aok
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Slate on August 08, 2014, 09:48:20 AM
  
    I can see a one dimensional player getting discouraged with the lower numbers we have these days. Some have not spent 100% of time in fighters to hone the skills needed to compete with a pilot like Latrobe so they opt for survival (cartoon survival) instead.
   I myself will try to fight against the best, you don't learn much from those worse than you.

   Many though find enjoyment in this game from all the other aspects of it not just WW2 dogfighting. The WW1 arena was great on Wednesday even though I had my tail handed to me but all dogfighting.

      Fair skies Latrobe    :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: LLv34_Dictonius on August 08, 2014, 09:55:28 AM
<Salute> Latrobe

Somehow I always waited to meet one P51D that made especially well handled turns and make great big surprices and usually ended up shooting me down. Your flying made me try harder, sometimes even forced me to substitute my usual rides to spit16 just out of frustration. Sad to see that you are leaving. Was always glad to have a good fight with ya.

Take ur leave and we will fight again. When the graphics update is out, I know you can not resist the temptation to chk it out :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BnZs on August 08, 2014, 09:56:44 AM
 
    I can see a one dimensional player getting discouraged with the lower numbers we have these days. Some have not spent 100% of time in fighters to hone the skills needed to compete with a pilot like Latrobe so they opt for survival (cartoon survival) instead.

Running seems like a simple tactic to counter most of the time in AH. Simply get in something very fast yourself, and mostly they won't even try to run, and if they do they'll tend to be caught.

However, doing so involves getting out of earlier, more lightly wing-loaded planes and into craft that may not handle as pleasantly. I think this is why so many players complain about runners instead of simply solving the problem by clicking on something fast in the hangar.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Skyyr on August 08, 2014, 09:57:14 AM
Running seems like a simple tactic to counter most of the time in AH. Simply get in something very fast yourself, and mostly they won't even try to run, and if they do they'll tend to be caught.

However, doing so involves getting out of earlier, more lightly wing-loaded planes and into craft that may not handle as pleasantly. I think this is why so many players complain about runners instead of simply solving the problem by clicking on something fast in the hangar.

Well said.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Hetzer7 on August 08, 2014, 10:08:34 AM
<S> Latrobe
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Kruel on August 08, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
That is the only reason I play this game - for the fights. I do not care about the war. I do not care about the perks. I do not care about getting kills or landing them. I do not care about the chess piece loyalty. I do not care about bombing or gving.

Sounds like you don't give a Damn. :)  The problem is that you are looking for someone else to have the "fighter pilot" spirit, when you need to look within, you DO care about getting kills, everyone does. But you also care in the manner in which you get them (turn fight vs e fight) Sad that you would rather quit than adapt. Sorry to see you go. Good fights =S=.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Aspen on August 08, 2014, 10:32:58 AM
The problem is that he's bored.  Life is busy and short.  Everyone has a different take on the game.  Latrobe was always a positive part of AH.  Loves combat, good attitude, helpful and skilled.

He's a player who's loss takes away from the game.  

Have fun and nice flying with and against you Latrobe <S>

(and buy some dang socks)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Rogue9Volt on August 08, 2014, 10:37:09 AM
<<S>> Sir, I sincerely hope you come back at some point.  It'll be a little dimmer not seeing you around the game. Play some games that you enjoy, and hopefully AH will get a little better in the interim. 

Sw9volt/Lemmy
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Scca on August 08, 2014, 10:53:12 AM
 
    I can see a one dimensional player getting discouraged with the lower numbers we have these days. Some have not spent 100% of time in fighters to hone the skills needed to compete with a pilot like Latrobe so they opt for survival (cartoon survival) instead.
   I myself will try to fight against the best, you don't learn much from those worse than you.

   Many though find enjoyment in this game from all the other aspects of it not just WW2 dogfighting. The WW1 arena was great on Wednesday even though I had my tail handed to me but all dogfighting.

      Fair skies Latrobe    :salute
You make a good point. I guess this is one of the reasons I play all aspects of the game. 

Latrobe, I don't think we ever met in combat, but if we did, I likely got a quick trip to the tower.  :salute  See ya in two weeks  :cheers:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on August 08, 2014, 10:57:01 AM
 :salute

Blue skies for ya Latrobe.

- A sad Whiskey2  :cry
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: edge12674 on August 08, 2014, 11:33:34 AM
Latrobe, your leaving is truly a loss for the MA.  I always search the MA for a good turn fight (I fly the A6M5 almost exclusively) and share your frustration on finding fewer and fewer fights over the years.  Several times you have put my Zero into kit-form using a P-47.  Entering into a fight thinking "that P-47 is meat on the table" only to have you throw that plane around in a turn that I would have thought impossible is not only humbling, but made the fights truly exhilarating.  The fact that other players will brag when they actually shoot you down is testament that you reached your goal of being one of the best.

Best wishes and I hope you will someday return!  <SALUTE>!!! 
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Coalcat1 on August 08, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
A sad day this is indeed...
             :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: dogtag380 on August 08, 2014, 11:55:58 AM
Latrobe - I don't think we ever met but I enjoyed your videos.  They were very informative and definitely helped up my combat skills.

If you're anything like me, you'll get the itch again in a few weeks and you will be back.  If not, thanks for your contributions.

 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Kermit de frog on August 08, 2014, 12:00:59 PM
Hope to see you return Latrobe.
This community needs more fighting spirits such as yours.
 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BaldEagl on August 08, 2014, 12:30:11 PM
Everyone's going to hate me for this but if you were a fighter you wouldn't be running away.  You'd stick around and try to improve the game.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Someguy63 on August 08, 2014, 12:31:13 PM
Hope to see you return Latrobe...and rather soon.

 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: GhostCDB on August 08, 2014, 12:32:53 PM
Has been fun Latrobe, thanks for teaching me how to tailslide.  :(


 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: bozon on August 08, 2014, 12:37:41 PM
8 years ago I would have never thought this day would come but I have decided to cancel my account for AH2.
Request denied. Get back in the game.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: GhostCDB on August 08, 2014, 12:38:47 PM
Request denied. Get back in the game.

 :lol
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Delirium on August 08, 2014, 12:45:48 PM
Latrobe, you are the least hypocritical player in the game. You do as you say, and remain polite to those you disagree with. Aces High is much poorer without your presence. I don't say that lightly, I will miss having you around.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: madrid311 on August 08, 2014, 12:50:15 PM
Must be a burden to be so good. How about coming back incognito and don't fly the signature plane you love so much. See what you can do in other planes with a different name. Anyone sees you knows you will fight, they also know they will die. Remember it's summertime also. I'm going swimming right now and if I can avoid wife ack I'll plop my arse in my chair and log on after i dry out. I guess what I'm saying is, don't go. Peace.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: NatCigg on August 08, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
It was a pleasure to fight against you the few times this happened.  It is a shame your last few months were on the knights because if you would have been any other country i would have been there, on occasion, to kill you.  :devil

The down and dirty fighter style of gameplay you seemed to exude is one that i enjoy playing against.  Very reminiscent of running into greebo or midway. A real Gem in the community.  Its a shame you are quiting although it is not surprising. considering the climb, boom, and run tactics of most fighters and ever present war, it is hard to get guys to fight your fight.  Couple that with your own one dimensional style of play and boredom and frustration is sure to follow.

Oh well, god cant make them all perfect.

Best of luck.

 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Copprhed on August 08, 2014, 12:56:14 PM
Running seems like a simple tactic to counter most of the time in AH. Simply get in something very fast yourself, and mostly they won't even try to run, and if they do they'll tend to be caught.

However, doing so involves getting out of earlier, more lightly wing-loaded planes and into craft that may not handle as pleasantly. I think this is why so many players complain about runners instead of simply solving the problem by clicking on something fast in the hangar.
The problem is that, then, you're sinking to the level of the lest skilled. Score and ratios don't truly indicate ability, and those who run just prove their lack of it. Latrobe is a fighter, not a runner. It comes down to this: the game is about fighting, not running. The decline of the game in the MA is horrible, with those who value an inaccurate indicator like rank or score imagining that they contribute to the game. They're wrong. They are just speeding up the time when there will be nothing but runners in the game, and then....it will just go away.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Badger85 on August 08, 2014, 01:06:58 PM
A couple other ideas, Latrobe, which you've probably already considered but I'll say them anyway:
1). Focus on special events like FSO and Scenarios where enemies can't help but engage in a fight (the best part of AH, in my opinion)
2). Become a trainer in the TA on one (or more) nights a week so all your fans here can take you on and learn from you in the process.

 :salute

Edit: Two more ideas:
3). Try flying a newer sim like IL-2: BoS or ILYA Muromets (http://ilyamuromets.net/), add some videos to your channel, and bring your experience/feedback from there back to AH
4). Come over and fly with VF-17 The Jolly Rogers. You'd missed our great little group of pirates during your squad rotations  :)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 08, 2014, 01:09:56 PM
The last 6 months I have gotten into very few decent fights, most of which have been the result of me having to ask on channel 200 if anyone wants to fight and getting a reply from a close friend in the game. The vast majority of my sorties (I'd say around 98% of them) involve me upping towards a red dar bar, merging with someone, and watching them dive straight to the deck and run to ack. I break off, look for another target, and repeat the same process until I either run out of fuel or bail out from boredom. Heck, I even had one guy PM me asking why I wouldn't fight him! And by fight him he meant "why won't you follow me into my base ack?" This is not what I'm pay $15 a month for.


I feel you brother and I'll miss your goofyness Latydoo. Hitech killed dogfighting when he made the AAA stronger to avoid airbase being vulched :furious. I avoid hordes and go for the single/double con inbound (thank God for the big maps). Even then most hit the deck and run for their AAA. Since I'm in a P47 I rarely catch them before they reach their base. Even P47 Vs Spit16 on 1 on 1 and guys circle their AAA. If you need kills that bad I'll be glad to bail out for christ sake, but don't play a fighter pilot game.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Bear76 on August 08, 2014, 01:13:49 PM
Sounds like you don't give a Damn. :)  The problem is that you are looking for someone else to have the "fighter pilot" spirit, when you need to look within, you DO care about getting kills, everyone does. But you also care in the manner in which you get them (turn fight vs e fight) Sad that you would rather quit than adapt. Sorry to see you go. Good fights =S=.

You really have no clue do you?
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Bear76 on August 08, 2014, 01:14:47 PM
8 years ago I would have never thought this day would come but I have decided to cancel my account for AH2.

When I started playing this game 8+ years ago my only goal was to learn the art of aerial combat, fight everyone and everything, and try to become one of the best fighter pilots in the game. That is the only reason I play this game - for the fights. I do not care about the war. I do not care about the perks. I do not care about getting kills or landing them. I do not care about the chess piece loyalty. I do not care about bombing or gving. I do not care about score. Other people do play this game for those reasons or other reasons, and that's fine but for me it was, has been, and always will be about the fight. These past 2 or 3 years though I have been noticing a severe decline in fights in the MA. These past few months they have almost become non-existent. The last 6 months I have gotten into very few decent fights, most of which have been the result of me having to ask on channel 200 if anyone wants to fight and getting a reply from a close friend in the game. The vast majority of my sorties (I'd say around 98% of them) involve me upping towards a red dar bar, merging with someone, and watching them dive straight to the deck and run to ack. I break off, look for another target, and repeat the same process until I either run out of fuel or bail out from boredom. Heck, I even had one guy PM me asking why I wouldn't fight him! And by fight him he meant "why won't you follow me into my base ack?" This is not what I'm pay $15 a month for.


Biggest <S> to everyone in Aces High 2! You have all been some of the most awesome people I have ever met in my life. I have made so many really good friends from this game from all over the world! I'll still be lurking around the BBS a bit but Latrobe in the MA is no more. If the fighter pilot spirit ever returns to AH2 then maybe I'll make a comeback to the game. Otherwise I don't think I'll be making a return any time in the near future.


Again massive  :salute and farewell my friends.  :cheers:

 :airplane:

Quit being a drama queen lol. See you in a month or two.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: puller on August 08, 2014, 01:18:12 PM
I still haven't had any problem finding a fight of any kind...I understand that Latrobe is a strictly fighter pilot...when I want to be a fighter pilot...I find fights...if I can't find such a fight I make one...cmex and I were on last week couldn't buy a fight...by the time we were done...we were outnumbered 15 to 1 it was awesome...

The game is dying and the sky is falling... :rolleyes:

see your shade in about week sir  :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: wrench on August 08, 2014, 01:21:54 PM
 :salute Latrobe!

Want to let you know I can't fight you and have any chance of winning and here's why:

i've discovered my connection says it excellant (40-79 ping), but there's some kind of lag or packet drops (or both) going on somewhere that makes it almost impossible for me to win in a turny fight against some players (possibly based on their geographical location).

The other players plane is not actually where it appears to me on my computer. Bullets just go right through as if it's a ghost.

Or the other player shoots me down while they are pointed away from me! I stopped flying 262s now because I can't fly near other plays without some odd thing happening to make me lose it.

I don't know if others are experiencing this, but it makes me bail from turn fights as soon as I see my bullets disappear.

The internet is a mess and I don't have many ISPs to choose from. Those of you who don't have to put up with this may not know it's happening to others.

Anyway, take a break and come back when we get this new AH up and running, maybe things will be more fun for you.

Again  :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Randy1 on August 08, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
My bet Latrobe is what you are tired of is the plane you are flying.  It is too easy to win with in ACM.  I challenge you to spend a whole tour in a P-38.  Not as a picker, not with a support group just lone wolf and pure ACM just the way you like it.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: GhostCDB on August 08, 2014, 01:55:00 PM
My bet Latrobe is what you are tired of is the plane you are flying.  It is too easy to win with in ACM.  I challenge you to spend a whole tour in a P-38.  Not as a picker, not with a support group just lone wolf and pure ACM just the way you like it.

P38 isn't that hard to fly once you learn how to  :eek:
Being able to control both engines in the scissor is great.  :D
But I also challenge you, Latrobe, to use a P38 for an entire tour. You will have loads of fun, and aim doesn't matter cause it has lasers.  :old:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Scca on August 08, 2014, 01:57:50 PM
My bet Latrobe is what you are tired of is the plane you are flying.  It is too easy to win with in ACM.  I challenge you to spend a whole tour in a P-38.  Not as a picker, not with a support group just lone wolf and pure ACM just the way you like it.
He makes a good point...  Latrobe got 70% of his kills in a 109 of some sort, 35% in a 109-F4 (not the fastest plane around).  No wonder he couldn't catch anyone...

If you are getting tired in the game, change it up.  I got tired of the Pee-51's and Run-90's so I started flying a 47-M.  Sure, they are both faster normally, but on WEP the M can keep up with both long enough to force them to fight.  

Let this serve as a message.  If you're getting tired of the game, change things up...
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Gman on August 08, 2014, 01:59:54 PM


Huge loss for the AH community, Latrobe has a great attitude both in game and on the BBS, and has always gone out of his way to help people when asked with videos, advice, dueling, training, etc.  I hope you return when the new version arrives Latrobe, and hope the "newness" of it breaths some of the old spirit of past days of AH into things, and good fights will be more prevalent and easier to find.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Stampf on August 08, 2014, 02:07:45 PM
He makes a good point...  Latrobe got 70% of his kills in a 109 of some sort, 35% in a 109-F4 (not the fastest plane around).  No wonder he couldn't catch anyone...

If you are getting tired in the game, change it up.  I got tired of the Pee-51's and Run-90's so I started flying a 47-M.  Sure, they are both faster normally, but on WEP the M can keep up with both long enough to force them to fight.  

Let this serve as a message.  If you're getting tired of the game, change things up...

Look me and mine up anytime you want to fight 190's that don't run.

Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Swoop on August 08, 2014, 02:09:20 PM
Look me and mine up anytime you want to fight 190's that don't run.

The only trouble is, you'll be fighting 20 of em...
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Stampf on August 08, 2014, 02:10:48 PM
I should add...on the topic of 'changing things up'...

I would say that very few folks play a more narrow or limited game in the MA than myself, and the others in the 11th.

I feel Latrobe's pain...

...but for me...it's the guys I play the game with...that keep me playing the game.

Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Swoop on August 08, 2014, 02:11:22 PM
Amen brother.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Scca on August 08, 2014, 02:23:29 PM
Look me and mine up anytime you want to fight 190's that don't run.


:D I shall.  Win or lose it's all about the fight...  The problem is, you sir are a small percentage of the minority.  All I ever see of run-90's is them flying by at mach speed to take out the radar then auger or turning tail after one HO attempt only to return at 30K to repeat the process..
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Stampf on August 08, 2014, 02:27:12 PM
The only trouble is, you'll be fighting 20 of em...

Only 19...you will miss the alarm clock.  ;)

And on topic...Latrobe never minded.  True Latrobe story here.

Taking off with half a dozen mates back on our way to the only good fight on the map.  Guy on range asks/says:  "Where you guys going? There is nothing going on over there".   My reply:  "Are you kidding me!  Latrobe is defending over there.  That means everything is going on!"

Funny part was I didn't realize Latrobe had just switched sides, was in range and heard the whole exchange!  I was a bit embarrassed, but at the same time...glad to have had the man hear with own ears...how highly myself and others not only held him as a skilled player...but one with game too.


:D I shall.  Win or lose it's all about the fight...  The problem is, you sir are a small percentage of the minority.  All I ever see of run-90's is them flying by at mach speed to take out the radar then auger or turning tail after one HO attempt only to return at 30K to repeat the process..


Oh yeah...plenty of those types of 'missions' going on out there.  Big and small.  Can't deny that.  Just hate to see the whole population lumped into one bag...no mater what the bag is.  <S>


Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Rich46yo on August 08, 2014, 02:41:35 PM
Quote
The game is dying and the sky is falling... rolleyes

July last year saw 757,947 K/Ds in LWA. This year 491,152. 2012 saw 831,743 in LWA. In 2009 the LWAs had about 1,300,000. And thats just LWAs.

The sky isnt falling but the game IS dieing. I'd say its lost somewheres between 60% and 70% of its prime player base. In the last few years its lost players it just cant afford to lose. Most of all valued Euro and foreign players.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Kingpin on August 08, 2014, 02:50:58 PM
I hope you simply take a break and return sometime in the future.  I have done this a few times myself when all the negative aspects of the game get to me.

You have contributed much to the AH community and still have much to contribute.  The idea of spending more time in the Training Arena with players might help.  I find that refreshing myself.

<S>
Ryno
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Wiley on August 08, 2014, 02:56:52 PM
I get it, Latrobe, but you'll be missed.  Hopefully a break will let you reset and you'll return when you get the itch.

My Cool Latrobe Story:

His 109F was working in the area I was.  I was in a C205 or something like that.  He was out of ammo, I knew he was out of ammo because he'd hit me with BBs repeatedly and then stopped even though he had shots.  What proceeded next was a couple of the most infuriating minutes of my AH career as I tried to get guns on him, but he just stayed behind me no matter what I did.  We were near the deck and I finally lost the edge and crashed my plane trying to get a shot on him.

It was well done.  I hated him at that moment, but it was well done. ;)

Take care man,
Wiley.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Lusche on August 08, 2014, 02:56:56 PM
Isn't Latrobe a late US night/early morning flyer?
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: GhostCDB on August 08, 2014, 03:04:19 PM
Isn't Latrobe a late US night/early morning flyer?

Nah he logs on throughout the day but he is most commonly online 12-3pm EST and again 7-9pm EST. So EU Prime Time and US Prime Time. I think that is EU Prime Time. . .
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Stampf on August 08, 2014, 03:13:05 PM
I get it, Latrobe, but you'll be missed.  Hopefully a break will let you reset and you'll return when you get the itch.

My Cool Latrobe Story:

His 109F was working in the area I was.  I was in a C205 or something like that.  He was out of ammo, I knew he was out of ammo because he'd hit me with BBs repeatedly and then stopped even though he had shots.  What proceeded next was a couple of the most infuriating minutes of my AH career as I tried to get guns on him, but he just stayed behind me no matter what I did.  We were near the deck and I finally lost the edge and crashed my plane trying to get a shot on him.

It was well done.  I hated him at that moment, but it was well done. ;)

Take care man,
Wiley.

Haha!  Widewing did that to me in the TA when I was like only a few weeks into the game.  I was probably in a fully loaded A-8 or A-5 maybe and he was in some god awful flap monster vulture looking thing of a corsair...no idea what mark it was.

All I thought while he stuck to me like a shadow...never firing a shot was 'I hate this guy'...and all I felt back from him was...'I hate this guy...'   

Combat game. Nuff said.

Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: deadstikmac on August 08, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
Latrobe....


You suck!

You suck in ANY 109!

My face your fist anytime sir.


If you don't go........
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: pipz on August 08, 2014, 03:24:16 PM
Its a outrage!  :old:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: jeep00 on August 08, 2014, 03:34:26 PM
Latrobe,
We don't know each other from the main arena.  But I know you from the community because of the generosity of your knowledge and your general involvement in 'what's going on'.

The lakes here in Texas have really suffered in the drought.  Lost shoreline is exposing a lot of ugly.  We don't complain, we just keep hoping it will rain.  We pray for it.  You've got to feel like you're a vanishing breed around here.  I don't think you are.  It's just that the current numbers of players are exposing a lot of ugly, no matter what your game preferences are.

You are entitled to your frustration.  I don't want to see one more player leave the game during this period of low numbers.  I'm hoping that things will turn around and I'm willing to bet they will.

With respect,

Ratsy



This is very well said.  :aok
Sorry to see you go for a bit latrobe. In general sorry to see anyone go as everyone adds a little bit to the game in their own way.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Slash27 on August 08, 2014, 03:59:13 PM

Again massive  :salute and farewell my friends.  :cheers:

 :airplane:

Damn dude, if I thought you were being serious last night I would have put some effort in to talking you down instead of asking you for your perkies before you left.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Kruel on August 08, 2014, 04:15:02 PM
You really have no clue do you?

I didn't ask you for one, I just expressed my view, that's all.

Again, =S= Latrobe, Good Fights.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Shifty on August 08, 2014, 04:32:17 PM
You're one of the good ones Trobe.  :salute  Hope to see you back before too long.  :aok
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: 1ijac on August 08, 2014, 04:36:44 PM
Cya Latrobe.  We'll keep an aircraft polished and ready for your return.

one-eye
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Chilli on August 08, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
I personally think that you have earned a great deal of respect during your years of play here at AH.  :salute

I sincerely hope that you decide to take a break, even shelve your gear for a bit.  Breathe some fresh air (forget where :headscratch: you live).  Enjoy youth, and come back frequently on the forums to let some of your  :old: old friends know how life is developing.

I take particular interest in this announcement, because it is a complaint from a very "low maintenance" type of player.  Another point of interest, is that Latrobe and I fly during off peak hours at times. 

Perhaps the ground war has crept into our AIR combat game.  I just hope that more folks do not give up, but rather, step back and give it another go on another day. 

Some days, weeks, and months are filled with dreary mind numbing routines, and then one day, something bright and shiny catches your attention, and the world is a marvelous place to ponder about again. 

Wishing you well in all your endeavors Latrobe, but if you leave and don't come fly with me first, I will post your "baby" pictures..... :neener:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Changeup on August 08, 2014, 04:43:08 PM
Trobe,

<S> old friend.  You are the man....
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Bruv119 on August 08, 2014, 04:47:01 PM
July last year saw 757,947 K/Ds in LWA. This year 491,152. 2012 saw 831,743 in LWA. In 2009 the LWAs had about 1,300,000. And thats just LWAs.

The sky isnt falling but the game IS dieing. I'd say its lost somewheres between 60% and 70% of its prime player base. In the last few years its lost players it just cant afford to lose. Most of all valued Euro and foreign players.

2008 and 09 was a good year!    :)

Sorry to hear that latrobe's patience with the dweebery of some AH player types has finally run out.   Latrobe was always a rare diamond in my eyes, no matter the odds or how he was getting his butt handed to him, would come again and again and seemingly not lose his cool outwardly.  

A massive shame that people always look for the easy way out rather than fighting the good fight.   Big Salute and I hope you find something worthwhile and enjoyable to do with your masses of free time!  

 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: 999000 on August 08, 2014, 04:49:52 PM
Trobe, I have 3 free kills for you. <S>
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Latrobe on August 08, 2014, 05:54:55 PM

3). Try flying a newer sim like IL-2: BoS or ILYA Muromets (http://ilyamuromets.net/), add some videos to your channel, and bring your experience/feedback from there back to AH

I have actually done that. I've flown War Thunder (*barf* I said a naughty word), Il-2 Sturmovik, Il-2 Cliffs of Dover (with the team fusion mod as well), and 1 other game that I can't remember the name of. None of these games came even close to AH2. They might have had better graphics, and they might have had more realism, but they didn't have AH2's massive multi-player. They didn't have the instant action with that massive multi-player that AH2 can provide either. AH2 may be aged in the graphics department, and it may not be 100% realism, but the game at it's core is the best around.


My bet Latrobe is what you are tired of is the plane you are flying.  It is too easy to win with in ACM.  I challenge you to spend a whole tour in a P-38.  Not as a picker, not with a support group just lone wolf and pure ACM just the way you like it.

Oh I do that quite often! I did a whole tour in P-47s, a whole tour in P-38s, a whole tour in yaks, a whole tour in the 190s. I have many many favorite planes that I fly quite often. My favorites list in the hangar has 109s, 190's, P-51s, P-47s, P-38s, Mossi, Yaks, Ki-84, La-5, F4U's, F6F, and a few others. All of these planes I take up quite a bit when I get in the mood for them. I'll even jump into a faster plane like the P-51 just to chase down the runners but it's just not fun. I'm don't want to chase some poor guy down and shoot his wing off while he stick stirs everywhere in desperation. I want to get into a good old fashion "I've got bullets and you've got bullets, let's try and kill one another!" fight. if the other guy doesn't at least try and fight back then it's no fun.

Its a outrage!  :old:

Indeed  :P

Quit being a drama queen lol. See you in a month or two.

Shut up bear!  :neener:

Damn dude, if I thought you were being serious last night I would have put some effort in to talking you down instead of asking you for your perkies before you left.


Oh yeah! HiTech, is there a way I can give away my 45,000 fighter perks? I never used them anyways.  :)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Bruv119 on August 08, 2014, 05:56:08 PM
surely HT will let you exchange them for a cuddly toy?    :D
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Slade on August 08, 2014, 05:56:47 PM
Request to leave denied!

Just kidding. Latrobe you have been a rock of great ACM skills flying in and against any plane.  I have learned a lot watching you.  You are a great sport too.

I sure hope this game finds a way to retain your talents.

Slade :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: WEZEL on August 08, 2014, 06:17:49 PM
 :salute This truly is sad news, we did not meet up too much in the MA but it was always awesome being sent to the tower by you when we did  :joystick:  I have learned a ton from you and your videos very upfront and informative and your sabbatical will be a great loss to the community.   
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Biggamer on August 08, 2014, 06:51:40 PM
Latrobe sad to see you go sir i have had some fun fights with you in the MA <<S>>
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Brooke on August 08, 2014, 07:08:41 PM
As I have taken my share of neurobiology courses, I have a perfect solution.

Latrobe, if you have a surgeon sever your corpus callosum and get another full computer setup, you can take up two aircraft, one flown with your right hand and one with your left, and have the left half of your brain dogfight the right half of your brain.

You will never run out of opponents flying in the style that you crave.

This is the perfect solution, and I defy anyone to come up with a better one!
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on August 08, 2014, 07:13:25 PM
Oh and one more thing Latrobe, thank you for the gif you made for me about the B-17 that I use as my profile avatar.  :rock

And Aces High has lost one of it's nicest, funniest, and great 109 sticks.

We'll miss you Latty  :cry
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Zerstorer on August 08, 2014, 07:56:40 PM
See you in a few months.   :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BnZs on August 08, 2014, 08:01:17 PM
I'll even jump into a faster plane like the P-51 just to chase down the runners but it's just not fun. I'm don't want to chase some poor guy down and shoot his wing off while he stick stirs everywhere in desperation.

Dude, if you're in a P-51 and they are in a Spit or something, they'll be dead before they realize they should run. Pretty much the same story if you're in a D9 and they're in a P-51.

I'm encouraging you to stay for purely selfish reasons. This is the only video game that has ever held my attention, I'm afraid it is dying and your leaving won't help matters on that front.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Shrike on August 08, 2014, 08:02:56 PM
Latrobe I only got to merge with you once and there were 3 or 4 other planes in the area.  However, it was a memorable fight and I always hoped I would run into you one more time 1 v 1.  I also enjoy the fight.  To me that is the ultimate high in this game.  You are right on when you say it's about the fight!!!  Another high is flying wingman tactics through a furball.  It's not the easiest task to watch your wingman and to watch yourself.  It's really SA to the max.  I hope you get board and return to the game soon.  If you do you should try out the WWI arena on Wed nights :).

 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Tinkles on August 08, 2014, 08:14:34 PM
Will miss ya Latrobe, but we know you will be back.  At the very least to see the New Terrain Engine  :D .
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: glzsqd on August 08, 2014, 09:11:34 PM
Latrobe.    I love you!  I want you! I need you!


I need you to want to love me!
Ill be waiting in the MA for you until the end of time!
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BnZs on August 08, 2014, 09:13:17 PM
The problem is that, then, you're sinking to the level of the lest skilled.
How is using a fast plane to head off the possibility of the opponent running away "sinking to the level of the less skilled"?

Higher speed allows one to force or deny the engagement, but by itself it doesn't do anything to help you win once you are into the dogfight. For instance, if you compare the 109F to the P-51D, the 109 out-turns and out-climbs the P-51D rather badly. Given equal pilots, the 109F wins a dogfight handily. The only advantage the P-51D really has is the speed to run down more planes, such as other P-51s. The P-51 can run down another Mustang or a SpitXVI, but actually hanging with those planes in maneuvers and winning the fight will be more difficult than it would be in the better-turning, better-climbing 109F.

 IOW, taking the Mustang over the 109F will allow one to force the fight against more opponents, but more skill, not less, will be required to win the fight using a decidedly worse-turning, worse-climbing plane.

As for the rest, you are claiming that people who continue to play the game and pay their $15 a month are killing it...I'm more inclined to think anyone who quits because all sorties don't go to their liking is hurting the game more.

EDIT: I really don't want a noted player like Latrobe to quit either. This bodes not well for my favorite game's future. However, I offered a workable solution to the problem he stated, and he rejected it. *shrug*
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: The Fugitive on August 08, 2014, 09:31:16 PM
Dude, if you're in a P-51 and they are in a Spit or something, they'll be dead before they realize they should run. Pretty much the same story if you're in a D9 and they're in a P-51.

I'm encouraging you to stay for purely selfish reasons. This is the only video game that has ever held my attention, I'm afraid it is dying and your leaving won't help matters on that front.

This is where you prove you don't get it.

What you describe above is called "picking", not "fighting". What Latrobe does is called fighting. He doesn't sneak up on people and shoot their plane down. He flies right up along side, wiggles his wings, tosses a quick wink and then gives them his six and says, "Lets fight!".

Guys like these "mouths" we have on the boards banging their fist on their chests and proclaiming how awesome they are compared to any one else will come and go by the hundreds before we see another like Latrobe.

Fair skies Latrobe, hope to see you soon!
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Skyyr on August 08, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Someguy63 on August 08, 2014, 09:50:03 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BnZs on August 08, 2014, 10:29:12 PM
Actually I do get it, and you are the one obfuscating. By the time someone realizes that this is no ordinary P-51 they are turning with, they will be dead, Latrobe's gunnery being what it is. Your average player in a Spit, Corsair, 109, etc, will upon seeing a P-51 icon thinks "easy kill in a turnfight" and will wade head-long into an angles encounter. Then the P-51 pilot will have them right where he presumably wants them in this case, locked into a close dogfight they probably cannot extend away from.

(The only fly in the ointment is that these planes, flown by a stick of equal competence, will usually defeat the P-51 in turnfights. But if one REALLY doesn't care about winning and losing and is only looking for the challenge of the fight, then my solution to the runner problem remains perfect.)

See,  I don't have problems finding people willing to attack me or hang around and maneuver with me, and I'm generally happy with the game. The reason is because I don't typically fly something much more maneuverable, but also much slower than typical LW rides. IOW, I don't give other players every reason in the world to run away. When I take the Fm2 up though, I do often have people run from me. But do you see me complain about it? Nope, having the prey sometimes slip away is simply the price one pays for flying a highly maneuverable but slow ride.

(BTW, it is almost completely impossible to sneak up on a non-AFK person 1v1. You may have noticed we have these neon red-signs hanging over our planes? So that was a completely fatuous thing to bring up. In almost all fights the opponent will spot you and maneuver to defeat your purpose. Yay icons, I say. I've flown in iconless environments before. An air war where 90% of kills are made on unaware opponents may be historically accurate, but it gets tedious after awhile.)

Nope, the problem with my idea is NOT that hopping into a P-51, D9, or LA7 to forestall running makes the dogfight too "easy" somehow. The problem is that heavy-wingloaded LW monster planes potentially make the dogfight too hard. For instance, given equal pilots a fight between a 109F and the ubiquitous SpitXVI is pretty close. Some would even say advantage to the 109F. Take a P-51D up against a competently flown SpitXVI from an even break OTOH, and it is very likely that even a well-flown P-51 will lose that fight. The Pony or a plane like it simply won't make a pilot "look" as good in stall fighting as something like a 109F will, and it is even possible for a vet in something like a Pony to find themselves *gasp* defeated by a competent but lesser player simply because the lesser player chose a Spit or something. And we can't have that, can we? ;-)

P.S. You know Fugi, this attitude you take with me, as if you were talking to a person who knows not whereof he speaks...it begins to wear a bit thin. I've posted sufficient film of myself fighting more maneuverable planes in a Mustang to dispel any ignorance you may have had on this matter. Thus you are now verging on vindictive falsehood.  I will leave you with a bit of advice: If you quit blaming the "dweebery" of others for your lack of effectiveness and turn your gaze towards yourself, you may begin to progress as a fighter pilot. Take this attitude: If you get shot down, it is your fault. No matter what happened, somewhere along the line YOU made wrong choices for that situation. If you maneuver into an advantageous position but the opponent runs away, it is still YOUR fault. You should have shot better, lured him in better, or picked a faster plane. Still can't find action? Take a P-51, D9, or Jug and fly it below the crowd. I guarantee that there will be many, many planes willing to attack you. Survival and victory will depend on your reversal and gunnery skills, but you're up to the challenge, right ace? You might also try studying a little bit of the aerodynamics related to ACM, as mistaken notions there can lead to one making wrong choices in dogfighting.

This is where you prove you don't get it.

What you describe above is called "picking", not "fighting". What Latrobe does is called fighting. He doesn't sneak up on people and shoot their plane down. He flies right up along side, wiggles his wings, tosses a quick wink and then gives them his six and says, "Lets fight!".

Guys like these "mouths" we have on the boards banging their fist on their chests and proclaiming how awesome they are compared to any one else will come and go by the hundreds before we see another like Latrobe.

Fair skies Latrobe, hope to see you soon!
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: fbEagle on August 08, 2014, 11:09:16 PM
 :salute     :cheers:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: MrKrabs on August 08, 2014, 11:20:57 PM
So glad this farewell thread went from a goodbye to chest-thumping...

Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BnZs on August 08, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
So glad this farewell thread went from a goodbye to chest-thumping...



Who is chest thumping? The OP suggested a problem that is causing him to leave the game, "the other players run away from me instead of fighting". I suggested a simple and rationale solution to this problem, "fly something faster so that running away from you is an impossibility", Fugi and other logic-challenged individuals initiated imprecations and it descended from there. Saying I have no problems getting the other players to try and kill me (and often they succeed!) and explaining why this is so, this is chest-thumping? Bah.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Slash27 on August 08, 2014, 11:53:31 PM
As I have taken my share of neurobiology courses, I have a perfect solution.

Latrobe, if you have a surgeon sever your corpus callosum and get another full computer setup, you can take up two aircraft, one flown with your right hand and one with your left, and have the left half of your brain dogfight the right half of your brain.

You will never run out of opponents flying in the style that you crave.

This is the perfect solution, and I defy anyone to come up with a better one!
I say we all become Borg and add his biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: FLOOB on August 09, 2014, 12:28:57 AM
Bnz I don't know who you are but stop graycliffing.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: glzsqd on August 09, 2014, 12:50:05 AM
Sometimes i wonder what will happen to some of you on the day you realize this is a video game.


By the way, making the BBS look like reddit or a YouTube comments fight is the best way to bring guys back to the game. :aok



This post has been brought to you by a disgusted Glzz.



Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: JOACH1M on August 09, 2014, 12:52:30 AM
 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: olds442 on August 09, 2014, 01:25:49 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: zack1234 on August 09, 2014, 02:25:57 AM
Bye Latrobe

What Hotas set up do you have?. I will give $20 for it :old:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: JDOD on August 09, 2014, 04:14:30 AM
     :salute  Latrobe

 Win or lose was fun fighting ya, though i did like winning.  :)

Hope to see ya back some day bud and hope Life treats ya well

  JDOD
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: save on August 09, 2014, 05:46:36 AM
you will be missed <S>!

Even though I don't fight your dogfighting style, you will always be the 109  ready to  get your spikes into my hippo A8 at the no-mans-land party.

One simple mistake during merge, turn, dive, whatever - I feel the breath of you closing in for the kill.


Sometimes my A8 bite back, and surprise even veterans, but maybe one day they make a fighter out of it in AH, and then I'm ready for it.


Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: SilverZ06 on August 09, 2014, 07:01:30 AM
Bye Latrobe

What Hotas set up do you have?. I will give $20 for it :old:

He flies with a mouse.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: ozrocker on August 09, 2014, 07:44:32 AM
 :salute Latrobe
Cya in 2 weeks :aok




                                                                                                                                                           :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: caldera on August 09, 2014, 07:47:32 AM
If I was anywhere near as good as Latrobe, this game would bore me too.  Luckily there is no chance of that ever happening.  :banana:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: The Fugitive on August 09, 2014, 09:39:53 AM


P.S. You know Fugi, this attitude you take with me, as if you were talking to a person who knows not whereof he speaks...it begins to wear a bit thin. I've posted sufficient film of myself fighting more maneuverable planes in a Mustang to dispel any ignorance you may have had on this matter. Thus you are now verging on vindictive falsehood.  I will leave you with a bit of advice: If you quit blaming the "dweebery" of others for your lack of effectiveness and turn your gaze towards yourself, you may begin to progress as a fighter pilot. Take this attitude: If you get shot down, it is your fault. No matter what happened, somewhere along the line YOU made wrong choices for that situation. If you maneuver into an advantageous position but the opponent runs away, it is still YOUR fault. You should have shot better, lured him in better, or picked a faster plane. Still can't find action? Take a P-51, D9, or Jug and fly it below the crowd. I guarantee that there will be many, many planes willing to attack you. Survival and victory will depend on your reversal and gunnery skills, but you're up to the challenge, right ace? You might also try studying a little bit of the aerodynamics related to ACM, as mistaken notions there can lead to one making wrong choices in dogfighting.


My problem is calling out falsehoods, I don't like BS artists. Many times the walls of text you throw have this element in it and I try to point these little things out so other don't take them as "gospel". Think of it as a community service.  :D As far as flying, Im sorry my score isn't as good as you seem to think it should be. My comments on the game and game play are not for just my benefit, but all players as I have seen this game at its best and only wish to see it climb back to those heights. I know my "skills" as a cartoon pilot will never be in the same league as Latrobe and I'm ok with that. I just don't have the time to put into it. Again, Im ok with that. Todays players don't seem to WANT to be the same type of players Latrobe is..... one of the best. Maybe, like me they just don't have the time, but at least Im not running. Ill stick out until a mistake finds me in the tower again. 

Latrobe is a different breed of player.... a dieing breed unfortunately. Today we are stuck with score hounds, and lemming rolling bases. One avoids fights because with out all the advantages they may mess up their score, the other avoids fights to suicide into the hanger they are trying to get down. This is why the fights are drying up. I see Latrobes points, and agree with his assessment. Still I'd take 100 Latrobes over a thousand players like we have today. 
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Copprhed on August 09, 2014, 10:07:34 AM
My problem is calling out falsehoods, I don't like BS artists. Many times the walls of text you throw have this element in it and I try to point these little things out so other don't take them as "gospel". Think of it as a community service.  :D As far as flying, Im sorry my score isn't as good as you seem to think it should be. My comments on the game and game play are not for just my benefit, but all players as I have seen this game at its best and only wish to see it climb back to those heights. I know my "skills" as a cartoon pilot will never be in the same league as Latrobe and I'm ok with that. I just don't have the time to put into it. Again, Im ok with that. Todays players don't seem to WANT to be the same type of players Latrobe is..... one of the best. Maybe, like me they just don't have the time, but at least Im not running. Ill stick out until a mistake finds me in the tower again. 

Latrobe is a different breed of player.... a dieing breed unfortunately. Today we are stuck with score hounds, and lemming rolling bases. One avoids fights because with out all the advantages they may mess up their score, the other avoids fights to suicide into the hanger they are trying to get down. This is why the fights are drying up. I see Latrobes points, and agree with his assessment. Still I'd take 100 Latrobes over a thousand players like we have today. 
Amen to that, Fugitive. While i enjoy GVing too, the fight is what gives me the most pleasure. If people want to win the easy way, with no real CHALLENGE that's their business, they pay like I do. The FACT of the matter is, their score is a pretty veneer put onto a cheap backing. no substance underneath. Their score is a facade.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: iKo on August 09, 2014, 10:13:43 AM
And that is why you don't see me in the MA with the wannabes (and you know who you are) and only fly the DA.

 :salute Latrobe
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: warhed on August 09, 2014, 10:21:50 AM
I honestly enjoy all aspects of the game, unlike most others there is enough variety to keep me hooked when I get bored with a certain type of play.  But the thing that keeps me coming back is the great dogfights; even, outnumbered, hoards, there are fights everywhere.  

Occasionally a specific type of dogfight or furball (usually the good natured evenish ones) may not exist for a certain country, or maybe not even for any other country.   Which means you are forced to either join the other type of fights that aren't your cup of tea, or log off.  Sometimes the reason we don't like the other types of fighting is because they require us to perhaps fly a little farther, or a different route, or altitude, or we expect our type of gameplay to be served to us on a silver platter.  But I can promise you, there are great fights to be uncovered in almost every situation we get presented with in the MA, and are very easily started if they aren't currently present.

I have not noticed any decline in what I consider good ol' dogfighting since I began in 2003.  If anything, there has been an influx in new players over the last few years that have excelled exceptionally fast and actually tried hard to become good sticks, they have replaced the gaps a lot of the old breed left when they cancelled.

You are always a fun fight Latrobe, win or lose, you're one of those rare pilots that always insure a minute or two of fun when confronted.  But there are plenty of others out there who give great fights, try to keep things fair, and win or lose enjoy the fights, I'm sorry you can't find them.

I can guarantee, if you tune with me to a vox, I can find you a fun fight whenever you want, that's a 100% guarantee.   I just find it offensive when I have easily 10+ good fights every single night, to hear such a seasoned vet exclaim how dogfighting is dead in the MA.  
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: potsNpans on August 09, 2014, 11:21:26 AM
Only Latrobe I knows is Latrobe Brewing Company, oh wait that's gone also. Hope you find a fun hobby like building butterflies, I mean come on who doesn't like a challenge? Keep smiling.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: danny76 on August 09, 2014, 02:23:41 PM
Remove score entirely - change gameplay entirely :old:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Rich46yo on August 09, 2014, 02:27:04 PM
Latrobe struck me as a guy never afraid to fight no matter what the odds. Definitely a much better flier then his stats might show.

Ive seen him mostly in P-38s where he and a wingman can often swing a losing battle into a win, a draw, or at least a prolonged skirmish. He has saved my butt more then a few times.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: scott66 on August 09, 2014, 03:00:24 PM
Remove score entirely - change gameplay entirely :old:
+1
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Changeup on August 09, 2014, 03:25:44 PM
Remove score entirely - change gameplay entirely :old:
+2  Hiya Danny!
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: McShark on August 09, 2014, 04:01:09 PM
And another one gone....

 :salute

Hope to see ya back someday!  :pray
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Vraciu on August 09, 2014, 04:16:32 PM
 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: zack1234 on August 09, 2014, 04:50:45 PM
Remove score entirely - change gameplay entirely :old:

+1

Score = Nothing
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: McShark on August 09, 2014, 05:12:06 PM
Remove score entirely - change gameplay entirely :old:

+1
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Dichotomy on August 09, 2014, 06:11:35 PM
Remove score entirely - change gameplay entirely :old:

this
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Brooke on August 09, 2014, 09:23:36 PM
I say we all become Borg and add his biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.

Your solution is even better.  :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BFOOT1 on August 09, 2014, 10:55:46 PM
<S> Latrobe, I've fought against you several times and I've had a blast every time, and I'm pretty sure I lost all of them but one or two sir. You were/are a rare breed of person that everyone will miss. I hope to see you return again sir. Take care, be safe and have fun.  :salute :cheers:

Here is a little song for you and your future sir  :airplane: :cheers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUz6f7xiVmM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUz6f7xiVmM)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Chilli on August 10, 2014, 12:40:57 AM



Oh yeah! HiTech, is there a way I can give away my 45,000 fighter perks? I never used them anyways.  :)

You could let me vulch your 262 on the runway 225 times.. ;)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: katanaso on August 10, 2014, 02:08:58 AM
You could let me vulch your 262 on the runway 225 times.. ;)

Have him let you do it with the gunner in the Storch. :)

Take care, Latrobe.  Hope you get the itch again.  I was out for 10 years and decided to play again. 

You have a great attitude, bud, and the game could use more folks like you. :)

:salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Threeup on August 10, 2014, 05:59:33 AM
You have always had a go no matter what the odds or circumstances. One has to admire that. I fully understand your frustration and share your sentiment on "runners". Thanks for the fights, both won and lost. keep well <S>. I hope you return at some point.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: kano on August 10, 2014, 06:09:46 AM
Sorry to see ya go latrobe, a true gentleman and one of the most worthy opponents in the game.

Thanks for the tips, the great fights and some of the best AH training films there are.


 :salute EatG
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: BnZs on August 10, 2014, 02:43:45 PM
One, you cannot name a falsehood I have typed.

Two, calling a man a liar sans evidence when not in his *physical preference*...let's just say that says a lot more about courage and character, or lack thereof, than anything one can do puttering about this video game.  :devil

  Today we are stuck with score hounds, and lemming rolling bases.
There are fights to be had when online numbers are decent. Latrobe's statistics and film record indicate a high probability that the game has become too easy for him, which leads to eventual boredom and burnout. But it is not really the fault of other players. Your consistently low rate of killing and complaints about how other people are ruining the game indicate, to a high degree of probability, that you are having the opposite problem. I continue to enjoy the game and willingly pay good money for something I can only log onto 2-3 days a week. Perhaps the middle path is best, as it is in many things, and the moderately skilled enjoyed the game more than people at either extreme end of the spectrum. Or perhaps the *attitude* of viewing *any* tactic the opposition uses as an ACM puzzle to be solved, instead of "OMFG look what the dweeb is pulling!" makes the game more enjoyable.

EDIT: I hope you take to heart my advice about how to adjust your attitude to improve performance and enjoyment in AH. I really, sincerely do. You'll enjoy playing more, and thus you will be more likely to continue financially supporting my favorite game instead of one day posting a topic like this and riding off into the sunset with your $15 per month.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: NatCigg on August 10, 2014, 07:27:04 PM

EDIT: I hope you take to heart my advice about how to adjust your attitude to improve performance and enjoyment in AH. I really, sincerely do. You'll enjoy playing more, and thus you will be more likely to continue financially supporting my favorite game instead of one day posting a topic like this and riding off into the sunset with your $15 per month.

That was fun, Thanks  :aok
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Patches1 on August 11, 2014, 12:52:51 AM

 :salute Latrobe!

It's been a pleasure flying with and against you all of these years! I wish you well in your future endeavors and will miss your contributions to the game. You are, sir, and always have been, a polite and generous player.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Plawranc on August 11, 2014, 04:04:58 AM
Dangit. I make a comeback and you leave. Where is your sense of decency!

See you in the new and shiny AH2 in a few months time Latrobe.  :rock
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: DrBone1 on August 11, 2014, 11:14:35 AM
You ain't leaving go play some other games and come back in 2 months like you know you will.

 :salute :salute Until you're Return you will be missed!! :rock :rock  :salute :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Lusche on August 11, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
Nah he logs on throughout the day but he is most commonly online 12-3pm EST and again 7-9pm EST. So EU Prime Time and US Prime Time. I think that is EU Prime Time. . .

Well, there goes my  hypothesis...
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: JimmyD3 on August 11, 2014, 01:58:01 PM
Latrobe, you are the least hypocritical player in the game. You do as you say, and remain polite to those you disagree with. Aces High is much poorer without your presence. I don't say that lightly, I will miss having you around.

Well said Delirium. Hate to see you go Latrobe. I have enjoyed your videos very much.  :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Debrody on August 11, 2014, 03:36:09 PM
Trobie...

109s suck!
262 vs 190D is a fun turnfight!
are they hording? f... yeah, we get there low and quick...
fear that furballing goon

oh and f you for kicking my butt every single time we met! Still was the best fun this game could ever give.

 :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Golden Dragon on August 11, 2014, 11:47:33 PM
You really have no clue do you?

Hey Bear, I disagree.  He is laying it out there like it is.  Latrobe is bored because people won't fight his way.  Oh well.  I've always enjoyed fighting him but I'm going to fight my way if I'm in my favorite fighter, the mustang.  Frankly, I find the more maneuverable planes less challenging and less fun.  :cheers:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Debrody on August 12, 2014, 12:17:21 AM
Hey Bear, I disagree.  He is laying it out there like it is.  Latrobe is bored because people won't fight his way.  Oh well.  I've always enjoyed fighting him but I'm going to fight my way if I'm in my favorite fighter, the mustang.  Frankly, I find the more maneuverable planes less challenging and less fun.  :cheers:
I have no idea how do you fly, but...

pedalling away from the opponent while asking for help is not really fighting. This is coming from a 190D pilot.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Golden Dragon on August 12, 2014, 05:33:52 PM
I have no idea how do you fly, but...

pedalling away from the opponent while asking for help is not really fighting. This is coming from a 190D pilot.

Yeah, you have no idea.  I've shot down Latrobe plenty and he's done the same to me.  Not only do I not have a microphone but I'd never ask for help if I did.  I'm not "Rocky."  And if you don't like me split-essing away from you and your buddies coming at me with altitude, frankly I couldn't care less.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: cegull on August 12, 2014, 09:25:49 PM
I gave up being an active player a long time ago because it was so hard to find a one on one fight and practice ACM's so I can understand where Latrobe is coming from.  They gang bang thing got pretty old.  I could maybe take on a fighter on the outside of the pack but if the fight got into a couple turns here comes everybody else drooling for kills. 
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: The Fugitive on August 12, 2014, 09:33:11 PM
I gave up being an active player a long time ago because it was so hard to find a one on one fight and practice ACM's so I can understand where Latrobe is coming from.  They gang bang thing got pretty old.  I could maybe take on a fighter on the outside of the pack but if the fight got into a couple turns here comes everybody else drooling for kills. 

Were you in a squad? Squad mates help out a lot when there are too many around. Finding and working with a squad when your new helps you work out the HOWs and WHYs in the game.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Zerstorer on August 13, 2014, 07:50:16 AM
I have no idea how do you fly, but...

pedalling away from the opponent while asking for help is not really fighting. This is coming from a 190D pilot.

Respectfully. 

Why not come back and fly against the individuals you say are running and calling for help.....then pronounce judgements on their fighting style, rather than sit on the couch playing Monday morning quarterback? 

I'm not trolling, or starting a fight.  I'm just sayin'.  To my knowledge you have never fought any of us (unless you are shading....but I highly doubt that's the case). 

So come on back, kill us, then puff like a peacock.  HTC would appreciate the extra subscription, and we would all appreciate someone else to fight.
 
:salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: hotcoffe on August 13, 2014, 09:36:33 AM
Best of luck and wishes Latrobe.

Are you planing to start playing a diff. sim or you are just bored of sims all together ?
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Latrobe on August 13, 2014, 09:40:33 AM
Best of luck and wishes Latrobe.

Are you planing to start playing a diff. sim or you are just bored of sims all together ?



My internet is too slow to download and install any other games and I'm far too lazy to wait the 3 days for them to download, so I'll just be playing a lot of Planetside 2 and The Secret World (the only other 2 games fully installed and ready to go on my computer  :lol )  :cheers:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Tinkles on August 13, 2014, 09:50:55 AM

My internet is too slow to download and install any other games and I'm far too lazy to wait the 3 days for them to download, so I'll just be playing a lot of Planetside 2 and The Secret World (the only other 2 games fully installed and ready to go on my computer  :lol )  :cheers:
Been there, definitely not fun.  :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Debrody on August 13, 2014, 12:51:39 PM
Respectfully.  
oh well...
Why not come back and fly against the individuals you say are running and calling for help.....then pronounce judgements on their fighting style, rather than sit on the couch playing Monday morning quarterback?  
I did not judge anyone i have not seen flying - as i have mentioned, i have no idea who Golden Dragon is, or how he is flying.
I'm not trolling, or starting a fight.  I'm just sayin'.  To my knowledge you have never fought any of us (unless you are shading....but I highly doubt that's the case).  
Nope, youre being sticky. Thats one milder form of trolling, at least in my book. And your knowledge is wrong.
So come on back, kill us, then puff like a peacock.  HTC would appreciate the extra subscription, and we would all appreciate someone else to fight.
I dont want to play with you or anyone from your squad, expect TC. Also, as being unemployed (last year in the university), my wallet cannot take a monthly 15$ for computer gaming. Yes, im poor.

edited for spelling.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Zerstorer on August 13, 2014, 12:59:21 PM
I'm sure you would consider any post I make to be a troll....that's your perspective but it doesn't make it true.  I've certainly never fought you and I've asked others in the squad if they have and received negatives.  We are all pretty open about who we fight, even if we lose. 

I'm honestly sorry you are poor but understand...I was a college student once myself.  I hope things get better for you.   :salute

Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Debrody on August 13, 2014, 01:05:19 PM
I've certainly never fought you and I've asked others in the squad if they have and received negatives.
Nope we had one interaction in the MA, back in 2011. Beta2 map, i think. I was flying my G6 in a random furball, trying to gain some E on a P38 and a Spitty when you came from 20k straight for the pick. You missed the first pass, and were extending to 5k before turning back. You were in a D9, as far as i can remember.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2014, 01:14:52 PM
Yeah, you have no idea.  I've shot down Latrobe plenty and he's done the same to me.  Not only do I not have a microphone but I'd never ask for help if I did.  I'm not "Rocky."  And if you don't like me split-essing away from you and your buddies coming at me with altitude, frankly I couldn't care less.

Who is this man? I like him.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Someguy63 on August 13, 2014, 01:17:08 PM
Who is this man? I like him.

 :noid
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Triton28 on August 13, 2014, 01:36:19 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Changeup on August 13, 2014, 01:46:01 PM

EDIT: I hope you take to heart my advice about how to adjust your attitude to improve performance and enjoyment in AH. I really, sincerely do. You'll enjoy playing more, and thus you will be more likely to continue financially supporting my favorite game instead of one day posting a topic like this and riding off into the sunset with your $15 per month.

That's tough medicine Batmannn considering the attitudes of those you fly with.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: palef on August 13, 2014, 02:13:30 PM
That's tough medicine Batmannn considering the attitudes of those you fly with.

Errr, what?
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Zerstorer on August 13, 2014, 02:45:24 PM
Nope we had one interaction in the MA, back in 2011. Beta2 map, i think. I was flying my G6 in a random furball, trying to gain some E on a P38 and a Spitty when you came from 20k straight for the pick. You missed the first pass, and were extending to 5k before turning back. You were in a D9, as far as i can remember.

This is a cool story.   :aok

I am amazed at your ability to recall things three years back.  However:

a.) I flew only rarely in the MA in 2011.  That was during my long hiatus in the DA.

b.) I was flying as Hoplite, as I had been since tour 55, for most of 2011.  I changed to Fulcrum in mid-Dec before coming back to flying in the MA full time.  I never killed nor was killed by you in the MA while flying as Hoplite or Fulcrum in 2011.

c.) In January of 2012 (tour 144) it seems I did kill you while flying a Dora.  So I was in error...we have indeed met! You have a remarkable memory...though the details are a little off.....you were in a 262 at the time.  

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsinp.php?playername=Fulcrum&selectTour=LWTour144&pindex=44&kname=Debrody (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsinp.php?playername=Fulcrum&selectTour=LWTour144&pindex=44&kname=Debrody)

:)



As far as I can tell that's the only time either of us have killed one another....at least in 2011 or 2012 (my lunch time is over so I can't check Pilot stats at this time).

BTW - I guess I should have clarified my prior statement....none of us recall fighting you recently i.e. while a member of The Damned.

In the interest of not derailing yet another thread, I will not reply further to this discussion.  

:salute sir.  Hope to see you back online soon.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2014, 02:54:20 PM
That's tough medicine Batmannn considering the attitudes of those you fly with.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,364161.0.html

 :rofl
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: pastorblok on August 13, 2014, 03:29:42 PM
Latrobe, Good bye sir <S> It was fun killing you and getting killed by you as well. May you have loads of fun where ever you go.  :airplane: I am BeeLowK!
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Randy1 on August 13, 2014, 03:59:43 PM
I gave up being an active player a long time ago because it was so hard to find a one on one fight and practice ACM's so I can understand where Latrobe is coming from.  They gang bang thing got pretty old.  I could maybe take on a fighter on the outside of the pack but if the fight got into a couple turns here comes everybody else drooling for kills. 

I think you need to work on your defense.
Picking is the safest way to engage a red albeit it is the most boring.  Avoiding the pick is a whole another skill level but has its rewards.  I do pick and will continue to pick when the situation presents itself.  Lazer, vinkman and rocky are probably the best at it in the game.  Avoid them consistently and you have done something.  Avoid snailman and Delirum anytime and you have really achieved a new level.

No doubt the highest level heart beats comes when engaged in a good one on one or one on two.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Changeup on August 13, 2014, 04:03:10 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,364161.0.html

 :rofl

Yes, thank you for confirming

Iamtheknight=BnZ=BoNEZ=Batmannn

 :aok
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Iamtheknight on August 13, 2014, 04:25:40 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,364161.0.html

 :rofl

LOL. Flying on split-screen with a controller in each hand was hard enough...but trying to work both throttles while fighting myself was murder! :noid

Well Skyyr I guess you might as well come clean also, and admit that you are Eace, Badboy, and Ironman. Fess, Fess...come on out and admit that you're Elvis and you've just been hiding in Australia all these years. People need the King's music now more than ever.  :neener:

Saw this skimming thru:
He doesn't sneak up on people and shoot their plane down.
Sometimes that works. Sometimes it doesn't.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/f3cnty5z9dvr55f/fugitiveovershoot.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/f3cnty5z9dvr55f/fugitiveovershoot.ahf)

(Okay, I admit it...I am ALSO really the player known as "Fugitive".  Like I said, working both throttles simultaneously is really hard! That's why He/I overshot myself in this fight instead of killing I/him, even though I totally didn't see me sneaking up on myself until the last minute.)  :rofl
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Vraciu on August 13, 2014, 04:30:49 PM
Who is this man? I like him.

You aren't allowed to like a guy who does a split-s!   :old: (Inside joke.)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Changeup on August 13, 2014, 04:43:34 PM
The fun part, the REALLY fun part comes next...lolz
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Kruel on August 13, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
You aren't allowed to like a guy who does a split-s!   :old: (Inside joke.)

Unless that guy knows when, the why and the how. :cool:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Kruel on August 13, 2014, 04:55:51 PM
The fun part, the REALLY fun part comes next...lolz

:gasp: What could possibly come next? What deep dark secrets will he reveal?

(http://media.giphy.com/media/kKdgdeuO2M08M/giphy.gif)

It's better with sound: http://youtu.be/PkRZRgaTZUk
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: scott66 on August 13, 2014, 05:04:02 PM
I'm sooooooo confused   :headscratch: I need a program with all these aliases..how am I supposed to put people on the naughty list if you keep changing your in game names??!! :bhead :D
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Vraciu on August 13, 2014, 05:40:13 PM
Unless that guy knows when, the why and the how. :cool:

Touché'.  :rofl
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: The Fugitive on August 13, 2014, 07:09:25 PM
LOL. Flying on split-screen with a controller in each hand was hard enough...but trying to work both throttles while fighting myself was murder! :noid

Well Skyyr I guess you might as well come clean also, and admit that you are Eace, Badboy, and Ironman. Fess, Fess...come on out and admit that you're Elvis and you've just been hiding in Australia all these years. People need the King's music now more than ever.  :neener:

Saw this skimming thru:Sometimes that works. Sometimes it doesn't.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/f3cnty5z9dvr55f/fugitiveovershoot.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/f3cnty5z9dvr55f/fugitiveovershoot.ahf)

(Okay, I admit it...I am ALSO really the player known as "Fugitive".  Like I said, working both throttles simultaneously is really hard! That's why He/I overshot myself in this fight instead of killing I/him, even though I totally didn't see me sneaking up on myself until the last minute.)  :rofl

WOW! I'm starting to get quite the group of ankle humpers here lately..... oh wait! Iantheknight=BoNeZ ??? Well ok, that makes sense now.

As for the film, it shows Im in it for the fight. The smart thing would have been to not roll with you and try to stay behind your 3-9 line. In a pony I should have just blown by and avoided any trouble at all, but wheres the fun in that.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Lazerr on August 13, 2014, 07:31:24 PM
Randy,  if i was flying to pick, i would land more than 1/4 of my sorties.  I feel the few times i have ran into you have been pretty fair.  Your.welcome to join my plane for a few sorties to see it from my end.  I don't consider my flying style remotely close to rocky, and vinkman doesnt fall in that category either.   :cheers:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Iamtheknight on August 13, 2014, 08:24:49 PM
Right. No way a Pee-51 can stay  behind a Lala flown by a good stick, even starting out from the Lala's dead six.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfm4i8exr0bbzb4/PonyLa.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfm4i8exr0bbzb4/PonyLa.ahf)   *


As for the film, it shows Im in it for the fight. The smart thing would have been to not roll with you and try to stay behind your 3-9 line. In a pony I should have just blown by and avoided any trouble at all, but wheres the fun in that.

I don't wanna speak outta school, but I think this may be the sort of excuse making Bnzs was warning you against with this piece of advice:
Take this attitude: If you get shot down, it is your fault. No matter what happened, somewhere along the line YOU made wrong choices for that situation.


Iantheknight=BoNeZ

Unpossible. You know for a fact that he knows nothing about flying, right? Thus he couldn't possibly reverse you and shoot you down, even though you started on his dead six. Can't happen. Right?

ankle humpers

On that subject...
What you describe above is called "picking", not "fighting". What [a fellow AH player] does is called fighting. He doesn't sneak up on people and shoot their plane down. He flies right up along side, wiggles his wings, tosses a quick wink and then gives them his six and says, "Lets fight!".

MI know my "skills" as a cartoon pilot will never be in the same league as [fellow AH player] and I'm ok with that. I just don't have the time to put into it. Again, Im ok with that. Todays players don't seem to WANT to be the same type of player [fellow AH player] is..... one of the best...a different breed of player.... a dieing breed unfortunately.  Still I'd take 100 [fellow AH player] over a thousand players like we have today.  

*No disrespect intended towards the always cordial player in this film or any other third parties. Just demonstrating a point.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: The Fugitive on August 13, 2014, 09:11:14 PM
Right. No way a Pee-51 can stay  behind a Lala flown by a good stick, even starting out from the Lala's dead six.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfm4i8exr0bbzb4/PonyLa.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfm4i8exr0bbzb4/PonyLa.ahf)   *


I don't wanna speak outta school, but I think this may be the sort of excuse making Bnzs was warning you against with this piece of advice:
 
Unpossible. You know for a fact that he knows nothing about flying, right? Thus he couldn't possibly reverse you and shoot you down, even though you started on his dead six. Can't happen. Right?
 
On that subject...
*No disrespect intended towards the always cordial player in this film or any other third parties. Just demonstrating a point.

Oh my mistake that was exactly the same situation  :rolleyes:

Could you use a bit of lotion, my ankle is starting to chaff.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: muzik on August 13, 2014, 09:49:26 PM
Lazer, vinkman and rocky are probably the best at it in the game. 

Neither Lazer or Vinkman are "pickers." It may have happened if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but that is not their primary style.

Right. No way a Pee-51 can stay  behind a Lala flown by a good stick, even starting out from the Lala's dead six.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfm4i8exr0bbzb4/PonyLa.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfm4i8exr0bbzb4/PonyLa.ahf)   *

Holy spray and pray deadaman, were you drunk that night?
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: WEZEL on August 13, 2014, 09:57:17 PM
This thread has taken a turn for the worse.......it suppose to show support for a respected player who has left the game.......not the petty BS that this forum is famous for.  :bhead
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Iamtheknight on August 13, 2014, 10:53:42 PM
Could you use a bit of lotion, my ankle is starting to chaff.

Take another look at the fight. I think you need that lubricant in another part of your anatomy.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfm4i8exr0bbzb4/PonyLa.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfm4i8exr0bbzb4/PonyLa.ahf)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Iamtheknight on August 13, 2014, 10:55:52 PM
Holy spray and pray deadaman, were you drunk that night?

Probably. So I am also Dedalos now? DAY-UM, looks like my sub fees are the primary thing keeping HTC's profits in the black these days.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: 100Coogn on August 13, 2014, 11:26:47 PM
Oh my mistake that was exactly the same situation  :rolleyes:

Could you use a bit of lotion, my ankle is starting to chaff.

It's foolishness like this that I will not recommend this game to my friends.
Please disregaurd his recommendations..

Coogan
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Debrody on August 14, 2014, 04:56:12 AM
This is a cool story.   :aok

I am amazed at your ability to recall things three years back.  However:

a.) I flew only rarely in the MA in 2011.  That was during my long hiatus in the DA.

b.) I was flying as Hoplite, as I had been since tour 55, for most of 2011.  I changed to Fulcrum in mid-Dec before coming back to flying in the MA full time.  I never killed nor was killed by you in the MA while flying as Hoplite or Fulcrum in 2011.

c.) In January of 2012 (tour 144) it seems I did kill you while flying a Dora.  So I was in error...we have indeed met! You have a remarkable memory...though the details are a little off.....you were in a 262 at the time.  

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsinp.php?playername=Fulcrum&selectTour=LWTour144&pindex=44&kname=Debrody (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsinp.php?playername=Fulcrum&selectTour=LWTour144&pindex=44&kname=Debrody)

:)



As far as I can tell that's the only time either of us have killed one another....at least in 2011 or 2012 (my lunch time is over so I can't check Pilot stats at this time).

BTW - I guess I should have clarified my prior statement....none of us recall fighting you recently i.e. while a member of The Damned.

In the interest of not derailing yet another thread, I will not reply further to this discussion.  

:salute sir.  Hope to see you back online soon.
oh well. I was mistaken, me, the rotten evil bastage. Still, do you know when it is time to bring up the 262s... when the opposing side is hording like mofo...

My mistake wont justify the style youre "fighting". And for some minor reason, i would rather trust in my friend's stories than in your bragging.

None of you awesomenesses will ever see me flying, i promise that. Your kind have turned this game into what it is now. Empty playgound of cartoon cowardice.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Iamtheknight on August 14, 2014, 05:18:28 AM
Take another look at the fight. I think you need that lubricant in another part of your anatomy.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfm4i8exr0bbzb4/PonyLa.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfm4i8exr0bbzb4/PonyLa.ahf)
Oops. Wrong link.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/f3cnty5z9dvr55f/fugitiveovershoot.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/download/f3cnty5z9dvr55f/fugitiveovershoot.ahf)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: hotcoffe on August 14, 2014, 05:31:15 AM
man look at this sht I left for 3months and the whole AH2 community collapsed !....

apparently I was the only one keeping it together...


ahaiaiahihaiahiah.... feeling so egoistic to day :)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Randy1 on August 14, 2014, 06:32:18 AM
Again, picking is not bad.  It is part of the game that everyone does to one extent or the other.  If I have a chance to pick I will.  My point was to develop skills to avoid picking by SA  and avoidance skills.  The people I mentioned as a compliment to their skills for identifying a target then making the kill.

The people that shout foul when being picked have failed to maintain SA.  I know it makes me mad when I get caught with my pants down.  I think it is anger at ourselves for a momentary lapse in SA.

Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: LCADolby on August 14, 2014, 06:39:41 AM
 :salute :salute :salute :salute :salute

<3 Bathrobe

Dont stay away too long!
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: TwinBoom on August 14, 2014, 06:53:16 AM
Farewell see you in two months
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Randy1 on August 14, 2014, 07:03:52 AM
.  . . I feel the few times i have ran into you have been pretty fair. 

Very fair.  No question there at all.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Delirium on August 14, 2014, 10:10:14 AM
Then why cast aspersions toward anyone, Randy?

I have two films with fights against you and both were single 1v1s.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: HL117 on August 14, 2014, 10:15:46 AM
Farewell see you in two months



Latrobe you got it bad, I give it 1 maybe........................ ..



<S>



HL
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Zerstorer on August 14, 2014, 10:20:43 AM
This thread has taken a turn for the worse.......it suppose to show support for a respected player who has left the game.......not the petty BS that this forum is famous for.  :bhead

You are correct.  I should not have contributed to it.  My apologies.  :salute
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: muzik on August 14, 2014, 08:46:24 PM
Probably. So I am also Dedalos now? DAY-UM, looks like my sub fees are the primary thing keeping HTC's profits in the black these days.

 :headscratch: UM, no. I was talking to him, he seemed under performing. I don't believe I know you well enough to compliment you by calling you dedalos.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Guppy35 on August 14, 2014, 11:53:33 PM
Randy,  if i was flying to pick, i would land more than 1/4 of my sorties.  I feel the few times i have ran into you have been pretty fair.  Your.welcome to join my plane for a few sorties to see it from my end.  I don't consider my flying style remotely close to rocky, and vinkman doesnt fall in that category either.   :cheers:

Wow!  If Lazer has become a picker, the game really has gone downhill.

While I haven't flown in a long long time, I can state with conviction that Lazer was one of the guys who fought from a lower altitude than me, and considering the deck is where I tended to fly, that's saying something :)

Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Reaper90 on August 15, 2014, 01:16:44 AM
Latrobe, you suck, man.

Really. I mean, you and that alternative lifestyle P-47. I don't know how many times I roasted you in my Yak. You really need to step it up a bit. I mean, you leaving the game now? really? When you get your arse handed to you by a 2-bit newb like me?

Geez, have some self respect, man. At least quit when you've actually done something. Well, something other than post vids on youtube of your big monkey feet on the rudder pedals in that weird haxxor tail-slide thingamajig video of yours. Yeh, I saw your monkey feet, bad toenails and all. Jeebus, trim those things, will ya? look like you could climb the hell out of a tree with those monkey feet of yours, though....

Oh well, go ahead and go. Not like you'll be missed. 3 months from now, people will say "Latrobe" and everyone else will say "yeh, well, I don't like New York, and beer from there sucks."







































































































OK, ya got me.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Lazerr on August 15, 2014, 02:36:28 AM
Dan i was trimming hedges and leaking fluids tonight... you would have been proud. :cheers:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Chilli on August 15, 2014, 03:36:39 AM
 :rofl Reaper

I told Latrobe he had an unfair advantage with the tail slide because he used the thumbs on his feet to control his pedals....  :bolt:

C'mon Latrobe, where else you gonna get this kind of razzin' (your sister?)  You better get rested up, and just get ready for round two, when hopefully you will rejoin (like many of us) to stay until your eyes are too bad to know if you were in a fight or not and all the hair you will have left will be on your feet......

..... and there will definitely be no videos (instructional or otherwise) showin' my tired ole dogs.  :neener:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: hotcoffe on August 15, 2014, 03:43:04 AM
Latrobe, you suck, man.

Really. I mean, you and that alternative lifestyle P-47. I don't know how many times I roasted you in my Yak. You really need to step it up a bit. I mean, you leaving the game now? really? When you get your arse handed to you by a 2-bit newb like me?

Geez, have some self respect, man. At least quit when you've actually done something. Well, something other than post vids on youtube of your big monkey feet on the rudder pedals in that weird haxxor tail-slide thingamajig video of yours. Yeh, I saw your monkey feet, bad toenails and all. Jeebus, trim those things, will ya? look like you could climb the hell out of a tree with those monkey feet of yours, though....

Oh well, go ahead and go. Not like you'll be missed. 3 months from now, people will say "Latrobe" and everyone else will say "yeh, well, I don't like New York, and beer from there sucks."







































































































OK, ya got me.

Man he must really have kicked your bellybutton really hard with those big monkey foots of him to make you feel so angry...
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Randy1 on August 15, 2014, 06:32:18 AM
Then why cast aspersions toward anyone, Randy?

I have two films with fights against you and both were single 1v1s.

Yes and all I lost all very badly.

If I hurt someone's feeling then I am sorry for the post albeit I am not sure why folks see picking as a bad word.  

Often picking occurs when saving a fellows green from a sure kill.  Picking happens when a green pulls a red up and another green takes his wings off.  The best pickers have super skills in reading another planes E state and are some of the best shots in the game.  Not sure again how this is seen as a disparaging remark.

The whole point of this is to develop defensive tactics and improve one's SA.  I gave some real good players a compliment as a datum point for measuring .  

The problem seems like is all players pick but most don't think they do.  If a player thinks they never picks then he or she is not playing AH.

Are these player's name associated with Rocky the problem?

I pick and keep picking when the opportunity or situation arises.

Let's let Latrobe have his thread back.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: JimmyD3 on August 15, 2014, 07:37:07 PM
I think this thread has run its course.

 :salute Latrobe

 :bolt:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Slash27 on August 15, 2014, 08:51:04 PM
Wow!  If Lazer has become a picker, the game really has gone downhill.

While I haven't flown in a long long time, I can state with conviction that Lazer was one of the guys who fought from a lower altitude than me, and considering the deck is where I tended to fly, that's saying something :)


He lives!
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: OldNo7 on August 15, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
indeed!  :rock
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Gray on August 15, 2014, 11:06:23 PM
 :salute Latrobe.  Thanks for the schoolin'.   
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: olds442 on August 16, 2014, 05:10:06 AM
Man he must really have kicked your bellybutton really hard with those big monkey foots of him to make you feel so angry...

You're a smart cookie.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Reaper90 on August 16, 2014, 07:05:54 AM
Man he must really have kicked your bellybutton really hard with those big monkey foots of him to make you feel so angry...

(http://i.imgur.com/AIPe3lb.gif)

At least Chilli got it.
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Guppy35 on August 17, 2014, 10:15:28 PM
Dan i was trimming hedges and leaking fluids tonight... you would have been proud. :cheers:

Is there some other way to fly cartoon airplanes? :)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: katanaso on August 17, 2014, 10:55:08 PM
Is there some other way to fly cartoon airplanes? :)

Oh, how some things have changed, Dan.    :lol

But then again, they haven't.  Just a different name to replace those who stopped. :)
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Devil 505 on August 17, 2014, 10:59:30 PM
Later Latrobe.  :cheers:
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: Changeup on August 18, 2014, 07:33:19 AM
The 80th get it....yo Corky, bring your country donut back. 
Title: Re: <S> AH2 Community and Farewell
Post by: kilz on August 18, 2014, 10:05:20 AM
8 years ago I would have never thought this day would come but I have decided to cancel my account for AH2.

When I started playing this game 8+ years ago my only goal was to learn the art of aerial combat, fight everyone and everything, and try to become one of the best fighter pilots in the game. That is the only reason I play this game - for the fights. I do not care about the war. I do not care about the perks. I do not care about getting kills or landing them. I do not care about the chess piece loyalty. I do not care about bombing or gving. I do not care about score. Other people do play this game for those reasons or other reasons, and that's fine but for me it was, has been, and always will be about the fight. These past 2 or 3 years though I have been noticing a severe decline in fights in the MA. These past few months they have almost become non-existent. The last 6 months I have gotten into very few decent fights, most of which have been the result of me having to ask on channel 200 if anyone wants to fight and getting a reply from a close friend in the game. The vast majority of my sorties (I'd say around 98% of them) involve me upping towards a red dar bar, merging with someone, and watching them dive straight to the deck and run to ack. I break off, look for another target, and repeat the same process until I either run out of fuel or bail out from boredom. Heck, I even had one guy PM me asking why I wouldn't fight him! And by fight him he meant "why won't you follow me into my base ack?" This is not what I'm pay $15 a month for.


Biggest <S> to everyone in Aces High 2! You have all been some of the most awesome people I have ever met in my life. I have made so many really good friends from this game from all over the world! I'll still be lurking around the BBS a bit but Latrobe in the MA is no more. If the fighter pilot spirit ever returns to AH2 then maybe I'll make a comeback to the game. Otherwise I don't think I'll be making a return any time in the near future.


Again massive  :salute and farewell my friends.  :cheers:

 :airplane:


one of many reasons why my wings sit on a my floor right now. I have not flown in some time. and I cant say I have the itch yet.

you can never leave, you can always take very long extended breaks bud.  :salute my friend as I shall see you again some day when I decided to come back