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« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2002, 12:28:16 PM »
Hazed, let me  lay it out for you. What funkedup is refering to in the squeeky wheel, is not that the items you disagree with in the game are the squeeky wheels, wrather that YOU are a squeeky wheel. The resone why are simple statements like this.
 
"The cooling times question i asked I tried my damndest to understand your explanation but I still dont have a clear indication of the reasons for the differing times in AH."

On that issue I answered you twice. Yet here we are at least a month later and you are once again squeeking about it.

We try look into any VALID discussion of flight modling that could be incorect, and have responded to some like the rocket pod jetison before.

That question is a choice on our part to make them not jetisonable, because all players would just jetison after use, and that is not how they were used. The jetison was for emergancy only, and not disposable. There for in an effort to be more realistic we chose not to have them jetisonable. And now once again just this statment will lead to another heated argument.

So now who is it that is causing the "TONE" of this type of statements?

"As i see it the whole tone of some of the threads is detrimental to AH as they often hint at HTC ignoring or avoiding the issues brought forward."

HTC by not spending the time holding the hands ,and giving a few squeeky players extra atention?

Or the "SQUEEKY" players who tend to only bring up items that would make there beloved planes better?

I'm not positive about this, but where in the last year have you posted an item where any LW plane is to good at somthing?

And if you realy belive that me answereing your first question would make an issue stop, I belive you are greatly mistaken.

The out come would be one of a few.

If I said yes, we are looking into it. Then we decided it's ok. You would come right back at us and argue some more that it's NOT ok.

If I said we have looked into it, and it's OK you would then bring the topic back up again in 2 weeks. Or just go away stomping your feet claming we don't care about accuracy.

A lot of the time the best way for us answere this stuff, is to not respond until we are positive we are going to change somthing.

Even then it can work out better if we just change it, and put it in the readme at release.

There was a post a few days back how incorect or ar234 was because it had a skid not wheels, should I imeaditly respond that we will look into it. Or that no you are mistaken, take time diging up the resources on which version had what to get into that discusion?


Please realize that when you belive that somthing is incorect the burden of proof lies with you, it is not our job to prove what we have is correct. The resone is simple, how many times and to many people would have to keep proving it.

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« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2002, 12:31:49 PM »
The Typhoon, like many a/c had its share of development problems.

There were 26 known failures structurally in 3 years of service, from the spring of 1942-45. Thats a big 10 per year on average.

That  it was a "pos" simply isnt true, it was kept in service as it should have been, as a fighter-bomber and a medium-low altitude fighter. It had a very good combat record and was popular with its crews. It filled roles the RAF needed filled.

The only difference between an earlier Typhoon IB and the Typhoon IB of 1944 (and AH) is the 4 bladed prop and the slightly better canopy. Also the rocket rails. Other than that, the actual a/c is the same. Airframe and engine.

Btw the 109F had problems with its tail section coming off early in its career as well, and the 190 had engine fire problems with early front line versions. Many a/c had development problems in WW2. Ki-84 (hydraulics),  N1K2 (engine) P-38 (compressability)...I could go on.

The pace of war always pushed the designers, pilots and air forces much faster than peacetime ever would have permitted them to do. The Tiffie was certainly one of the more troublesome for the RAF, but no more so than other types in other air forces that were eventually succesfull designs.
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« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2002, 12:35:26 PM »
Hitech but wouldnt that "emergency" be like running for your life, or getting bounced then needing to dogfight so you drop them? Just like somebody would drop a DT or bomb in an "emergency".  I see no reason for you to be so extreme on this issue while AH is very relaxed on many loadout options on many airplanes.   Why care so much about that issue? Just gives us that option, and why not add a seperate 21cm rocket with the fuze set to detonate on impact for ground attack - just let that be an option in the hangar.

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« Reply #48 on: November 25, 2002, 12:39:55 PM »
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Hitech but wouldnt that "emergency" be like running for your life, or getting bounced then needing to dogfight so you drop them? Just like somebody would drop a DT or bomb in an "emergency".  I see no reason for you to be so extreme on this issue while AH is very relaxed on many loadout options on many airplanes.   Why care so much about that issue? Just gives us that option, and why not add a seperate 21cm rocket with the fuze set to detonate on impact for ground attack - just let that be an option in the hangar.

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« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2002, 12:43:52 PM »
"And now once again just this statment will lead to another heated argument."


Hardly heated HT....

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« Reply #50 on: November 25, 2002, 12:50:47 PM »
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We try look into any VALID discussion of flight modling that could be incorect, and have responded to some like the rocket pod jetison before.

That question is a choice on our part to make them not jetisonable, because all players would just jetison after use, and that is not how they were used. The jetison was for emergancy only, and not disposable. There for in an effort to be more realistic we chose not to have them jetisonable. And now once again just this statment will lead to another heated argument.



Yea, I figured that was the reasoning behind it.  Course, you are right, thats why I wanted em jettisonable in the first place :).

I didn't know you had answered it before, or I wouldn't have posted a new question about it.  I did a BBS search but only 2 threads came up.  

Thanks for answering my question.

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« Reply #51 on: November 25, 2002, 12:58:39 PM »
I have to agree with HiTech,WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #52 on: November 25, 2002, 01:09:12 PM »
WTFG HiTech.  

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« Reply #53 on: November 25, 2002, 01:31:37 PM »
HiTech:

1 - Looking for improvements to make your favorite plane better is perfectly reasobable when these improvements are going to make the sim more accurate and some players happier.

2 - IMO, If HTC is going to answer general doubts about some part of the simulation replying "we looked are that and it is ok (END)" is not enough, mainly when some customers have spent a lot of time just digging into documents and charts and posting here the results. I think this is a matter of replying with "That is ok/not ok BECAUSE blah blah blah" or just not replying.

3 - And most curious, I'm almost convinced my written english is far far better than yours. And I'm 100% convinced my written english is crap :D

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« Reply #54 on: November 25, 2002, 04:08:09 PM »
He doesnt need to watch for typos, he owns the place.

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« Reply #55 on: November 25, 2002, 04:16:45 PM »
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3 - And most curious, I'm almost convinced my written english is far far better than yours.


Maybe so, but your comprehension needs alot of work.

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« Reply #56 on: November 25, 2002, 04:24:58 PM »
Hi Hitech,

>That question is a choice on our part to make them not jetisonable, because all players would just jetison after use, and that is not how they were used. The jetison was for emergancy only, and not disposable. There for in an effort to be more realistic we chose not to have them jetisonable.

Let me pull another game design axiom out of my hat ;-)

"Players don't like a hard limit, but they like a tough choice."

Aces High has a powerful point system that could be used to penalize rocket tube drops. If the penalty is adjusted so that players think twice (or thrice) about jettisoning the tubes, realism will be improved, and the players will have the satisfaction of being in control.

(Just a quick example ... I really haven't thought this through to the end :-)

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« Reply #57 on: November 25, 2002, 04:27:11 PM »
I only see answers on questions that are IMO low on the list.  What about the 152?  What about the deck speed of the 190A5?  What about different loadouts for the 190F8?  What about impact warheads for the 21cm?  If you want me to post all the data I have on the launchers having detonators for the release of the tubes I will go dig them up if that is what it takes to make them that way.  I see threads that start off as offering information that get turned round into a Luftwaffe whine.  It clearly shows what is going on here.

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« Reply #58 on: November 25, 2002, 04:28:53 PM »
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...I'm almost convinced my written english is far far better than yours...


maybe, but dont start a sentence with a conjunction.

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« Reply #59 on: November 25, 2002, 04:35:32 PM »
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"Players don't like a hard limit, but they like a tough choice."




Perk da tubes  ???  Lose them then lose the perks.......

Seems to meet requirements both sides.........so one day when it shuffles to the top of the list.................. I like it

Perk the third cannon on an La7?............or gondola's on the 109's? loose an AC with uber load out then lose the perks.........

maybe .......one day....... would be nice.....
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