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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Grayeagle on August 26, 2011, 06:44:24 PM
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I really should know better.
Really.
Read a bit of it here an there.
Figured I would give it a try after checkin out the website.. hey ..it's free, and not much of a hard drive footprint.
Next thing I know it's 4am and gettin up outta the chair to go to SLEEP is nigh impossible, but .. I did it.
Honestly ..it's a simple first person shooter dressed in MMO trappings with Tanks.
You wouldn't think I would get sooo sucked in ..but .. I *love* the way they BLOW UP!!
I mean ..a meeting engagement looks like some Junkyards I have been to, only tons more scrap metal . . ROFL.
Hunting .. works.
When I have the patience.
Watching a King Tiger work an engagement is just ..ohh man, he just one-shotted that guy .. holy crap!
(after you get kilt you can right click to watch other team mates work)
The tanks look amazing. HT has better physics by far. Run and gun is the order of the day for us light tankers.
I miss my Jenner, but it is literally the same tactics. I can run around a heavy faster than his turret can traverse, but ..
..I cant do any damage .. best to stay hidden from those guys :)
It's 3 days later now and I swear it's as much of a grind as leveling an Orc .. but ..it's got me.
Fun stuff :)
1Grayeagle in game, I will invariably be in battle on a team, rarely step into chat channel.
-Frank aka GE
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Certainly not as realistic as AH, and that's been beaten to death here. Realistic or not, something about it is addictive and fun. :)
Been playing since Closed Beta so the grind gets old after a while but it still drags me in. Back up to my JagdTiger again. If ya ever want a platoon just give a holler, I got some Low tiers I need to work on (working up every TD line).
<S>
Xcelsior
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THere are quite a few of us playing from over here. We have a clan of about 47 now that are mostly people from over here. If you need an invite for the company just say so.
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Yup I run with bodhi over on world of tanks, along with a bunch of others from here like he said. It's a great game, thats why I am about to cancel my AH account. :)
opposum
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I really should know better.
Really.
Read a bit of it here an there.
Figured I would give it a try after checkin out the website.. hey ..it's free, and not much of a hard drive footprint.
Next thing I know it's 4am and gettin up outta the chair to go to SLEEP is nigh impossible, but .. I did it.
Honestly ..it's a simple first person shooter dressed in MMO trappings with Tanks.
You wouldn't think I would get sooo sucked in ..but .. I *love* the way they BLOW UP!!
I mean ..a meeting engagement looks like some Junkyards I have been to, only tons more scrap metal . . ROFL.
Hunting .. works.
When I have the patience.
Watching a King Tiger work an engagement is just ..ohh man, he just one-shotted that guy .. holy crap!
(after you get kilt you can right click to watch other team mates work)
The tanks look amazing. HT has better physics by far. Run and gun is the order of the day for us light tankers.
I miss my Jenner, but it is literally the same tactics. I can run around a heavy faster than his turret can traverse, but ..
..I cant do any damage .. best to stay hidden from those guys :)
It's 3 days later now and I swear it's as much of a grind as leveling an Orc .. but ..it's got me.
Fun stuff :)
1Grayeagle in game, I will invariably be in battle on a team, rarely step into chat channel.
-Frank aka GE
Jenner ?!! Wow . haven't heard that in a long time . I started playing Mechwarrior when it was a board game called Battledroids. I think Lucas nuked them for copyright infringement and made them change the name . It was called Battletech sfter that . What a fun game .
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Probably a good 200 people from AH scattered about.
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Im on there as well as Vuduvince currently with the clan KIA2(killers in action 2nd Batt.) working my way on up, in the med/heavy tanks.
edit:But for me theres no way it can replace AH for me I always come back. :D
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WoT was good at first...but now you gotta pay just to get out of 1 damn tank. havent played since the full game came out in april.
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WoT was good at first...but now you gotta pay just to get out of 1 damn tank. havent played since the full game came out in april.
Hmm? .. I have been movin up the progression ..took me awhile to figure out how to get into the next tank in series.
Credit earned is what you 'spend' to buy most of the tanks and upgrades .. earned by battles.
Then there's research you have to do in the tier you are in to unlock the tree to allow you to get the next tank.
It takes awhile .. cant just rocket thru it, but it has allowed me to learn a bit for a fact.
I still suck ..but . . got my PzIV with the 75 long gun ..first time I fired it made me jump,
didnt expect it to be so LOUD after alla popguns I had to that point :)
I still hate KV's .. wascals.
Just now learnin how to add friends to a contact list .. will have to troubleshoot mic an see why it's dead.
I enjoy the random battles .. lotsa tanks and mayhem, middle of towns look like a wreckin yard when the battle ends :)
-Frank aka GE
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I heard they revamped Red Orchestra. It is suppose to be better than ever.
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Like Bodhi said there are a bunch of old school AH dweebs over there. Hope to see you guys there. In game Scott12B :salute :rock
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would join the FWs but im already in a clan
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Just got the maus last week, rofl as the 99th round bounces. Artillery still messed up, seeing 4-5 deathstar orbital strike death rays every game
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Hmm? .. I have been movin up the progression ..took me awhile to figure out how to get into the next tank in series.
Credit earned is what you 'spend' to buy most of the tanks and upgrades .. earned by battles.
Then there's research you have to do in the tier you are in to unlock the tree to allow you to get the next tank.
It takes awhile .. cant just rocket thru it, but it has allowed me to learn a bit for a fact.
I still suck ..but . . got my PzIV with the 75 long gun ..first time I fired it made me jump,
didnt expect it to be so LOUD after alla popguns I had to that point :)
I still hate KV's .. wascals.
Just now learnin how to add friends to a contact list .. will have to troubleshoot mic an see why it's dead.
I enjoy the random battles .. lotsa tanks and mayhem, middle of towns look like a wreckin yard when the battle ends :)
-Frank aka GE
When you get into big tanks you will "lol" at KVs when you can one shot them.
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im in as Whels
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Sounds like fun but it won't work for me. Online games are not a good idea with satellite internet and the 2 second lag time on it. :(
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The tank mod (forgot it's name) for Red Orchestra is by far the best multilayer tank game IMO. WoT is a bit too much like run and gun for me. It's been a while since I played RO, so I dunno if there is still many active players but it was by far the most fun I had playing tanks. I never cared for the actual game but the tank mod was pretty nice.
The game was pretty popular out side the US so lots of Russians, Germans, Fins ect played so it kinda added to the immersion when hearing them on coms. Pretty good vid from the game with 2 guys working together and killing quite a few b4 going down. They used deflection positioning pretty damn good in this vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJo8nJGtsgk
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I wonder how I would fair in WOT, I tried downloading it a while ago but it was making my puter crash.
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I wonder how I would fair in WOT, I tried downloading it a while ago but it was making my puter crash.
Could be time for us uber gvers to take a look
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I wonder how I would fair in WOT, I tried downloading it a while ago but it was making my puter crash.
if your good in GV's here, your a god in them in WOT. you could basically snipe a M3 from across the map in artillery...:noid
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if your good in GV's here, your a god in them in WOT. you could basically snipe a M3 from across the map in artillery...:noid
:rofl Thank you for the evening laugh. :rofl
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:rofl Thank you for the evening laugh. :rofl
:rofl no problem! :lol
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:rofl no problem! :lol
They'll be fodder, until they get established and into a Tier 9 or 10.
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This game is very wowlike I finally got it to download....people are raping me in my ww1 piece of crap lol
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I got a pzkphw 2 or something now hope its not such crap lol
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They'll be fodder, until they get established and into a Tier 9 or 10.
That's pretty much the deal. You start out with the tracked equivalent of an M8 (37mm) going against tanks with 75's. You have to die HUNDREDS of times to slowly build up points for your tank, buying little doo-hickys, until you progress to the NEXT tank....which in turn, is matched up against even HARDER tanks than you faced before. (This can be cured by giving them money :noid) I finally gota a tank with a 75mm (Grant (Lee? I forget)....REALLY, was outclassed in 1942 in North Africa)...and I'm facing Tigers and frikkin KV's (had NEVER heard of the KV--Russian tank) I could drive up to a KV....fire point blank from the side...wait 5 seconds or so to reload...fire again....meanwhile, the guy in the KV kills all the people around him one by one...I'm still plugging away with my trusty 75...he goes to the kitchen, gets a beer, takes a dump..reads newspaper...I'm STILL @#@$#@@$# plugging away at him....he finally gets tired of the noise, swings his gun around, kills me with 1 shot :bhead. At the point, I concluded it was gonna be a VERYYYY long time before I enjoyed this game, if ever. (Also missed blabbing with people on local...200, etc. That really doesn't happen there, different sort of environment)
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i have 2 TS3 servers we can use for VOX. 1 is mine, 42 slot, other is with a racing league in im.
Whels
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bj229r,
re: KV-1, from wikipedia:
On August 14, 1941, the vanguard of the German 8th Panzer Division approached Krasnogvardeysk (Gatchina) near Leningrad (St Petersburg), and the only Soviet force available at the time to attempt to stop the German advance consisted of five well-hidden KV-1 tanks, dug in within a grove at the edge of a swamp. KV-1 tank no. 864 was commanded by the leader of this small force, Lieutenant Zinoviy Kolobanov.
German forces attacked Krasnogvardeysk from three directions. Near Noviy Uchkhoz settlement the geography favoured the Soviet defenders as the only road in the region passed the swamp, and the defenders commanded this choke point from their hidden position. Lieutenant Kolobanov had carefully studied the situation and readied his detachment the day before. Each KV-1 tank carried twice the normal amount of ammunition, two-thirds being armour-piercing rounds. Kolobanov ordered his other commanders to hold their fire and await orders. He did not want to reveal the total force, so only one exposed tank at a time would engage the enemy.
On August 14, the German 8th Panzer Division's vanguard ventured directly into the well-prepared Soviet ambush, with Kolobanov's tank knocking out the lead German tank with its first shot. The Germans falsely assumed that their lead tank had hit an anti-tank mine, and failed to realize that they had been ambushed. The German column stopped, giving Kolobanov the opportunity to destroy the second tank. Only then did the Germans realize they were under attack, but they failed to find the source of the shots. While the German tanks were firing blindly, Kolobanov knocked out the trailing German tank, thus boxing in the entire column.
Although the Germans correctly guessed the direction of fire, they could only spot Lieutenant Kolobanov's tank, and now attempted to engage an unseen enemy. German tanks moving off the road bogged down in the surrounding soft ground, becoming easy targets. 22 German tanks and 2 towed artillery pieces fell victim to Kolobanov's No. 864 before it ran out of ammunition. Kolobanov ordered in another KV-1, and 21 more German tanks were destroyed before the half-hour battle ended. A total of 43 German tanks were destroyed by just five Soviet KV-1s (two more remained in reserve).
After the battle, the crew of No. 864 counted a total of 135 hits on their tank, none of which had penetrated the KV-1's armour. Lieutenant Kolobanov was awarded the Order of Lenin, while his driver Usov was awarded the Order of the Red Banner.
The Soviet victory was the result of a well-planned ambush in advantageous ground and of technical superiority. Most of the German tanks in this battle were Panzer IIs, armed with 20 mm guns, and a few Panzer IIIs armed with 37 mm KwK 36 L/46.5 guns. The German tank guns had neither the range nor the power of the 76 mm main gun of a KV-1, and the narrower track width of the German tanks caused them to become trapped in the swampy ground.
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Well there you go--37's/20's against big tank (didn't know the KV series was out in '41 tho...in fact, before that game, I assumed the T34 WAS the only Russian tank)
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I got a pzkphw 2 or something now hope its not such crap lol
Belial I think I killed you today. :cry
Anyway you guys have gotten me hooked too. I downloaded it last night and so far I've put about 12 hours playing time into the game. :eek: :x
Look for me as GenBeefcake, and if we have a clan/platoon going I'd love to join. I'm tired of getting my butt handed to me in the PUG games.
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Beefcake, Look for Bodhi in game he has a clan going and often clan members platoon up as well [-FW-] I haven't played in about a month, I sort of burned my self out grinding up to some decent tanks and It just seems so far to the IS-4 and T-44 from the IS-3 and T-43.
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Belial I think I killed you today. :cry
Anyway you guys have gotten me hooked too. I downloaded it last night and so far I've put about 12 hours playing time into the game. :eek: :x
Look for me as GenBeefcake, and if we have a clan/platoon going I'd love to join. I'm tired of getting my butt handed to me in the PUG games.
PM sent
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You probably did the game is set up for to never get ahead...I guess it could be alright if you had a regular team like on AH but as of now I hate the game.
It's hard to stop though because you que another battle just to see if the random computer generator will finally let your little 37mm kill something with less than 100 hits.
I've got enough points for the skdz38f or whatever or for the panzer3...idk which is better they both have 50mm upgrades.
But I'm just sad that there isn't 6,000 people running around in AH in a tank...you know how much fun that would be?
Oh yea and going from being a wrecking machine in a ah tank to cannon fodder is hard as hell lol
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You probably did the game is set up for to never get ahead...I guess it could be alright if you had a regular team like on AH but as of now I hate the game.
It's hard to stop though because you que another battle just to see if the random computer generator will finally let your little 37mm kill something with less than 100 hits.
I've got enough points for the skdz38f or whatever or for the panzer3...idk which is better they both have 50mm upgrades.
But I'm just sad that there isn't 6,000 people running around in AH in a tank...you know how much fun that would be?
Oh yea and going from being a wrecking machine in a ah tank to cannon fodder is hard as hell lol
If you want to run with us, you're more than welcome.
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I've been playing since May or June. TEDpEMTp in game. I'm up to 39 tanks so far ( I may have a problem.) I'm up to the KV and T34 on the russian side, a VK 3001H for the germans, and I've got the bigger sherman and a slugger for the US. But my favorite vehicle is the russian SU-26 spg, I've taken out many tier 6 and 7 tanks even some tier 8. I also have purchased the Lowe, Churchill, Ram II, and T 14. I bought those early when I still had only a few tanks and I wanted to try somthing larger.
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Lol, the game is crack---they give you JUST enough to keep you trying for the next little thing...the people who coaded it must have consulted with some sociologists
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WoT is cool :D
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What I think I like about it is it only takes a minute from start up to be in a battle. The battles generaly only take ten minutes and if I get knocked out early I can leave the battle, grab another tank and jump into another battle.
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What I think I like about it is it only takes a minute from start up to be in a battle. The battles generaly only take ten minutes and if I get knocked out early I can leave the battle, grab another tank and jump into another battle.
That's what I really love. And even if you get knocked out, but your team still wins, then you get the XP for it. The game really is like crack, fast paced action and no sitting around waiting forever for a battle.
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the only bad thing about WOT is that you need a Golly-geen top of the line #1 computer just to see the ground. i hardly manage 15 FPS with all the graphic settings turned off.
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The thing about WoT and almost every MMORPG/FPS ever made is grind. GRIND, GRIND, GRIND, an then GRIND some more.
I played during beta where they out free gold every day. For about 2 months, I got up to Tier 5, Tier 6, and Tier 2 in the RU, GE, and US trees respectively. If I put all that together in one branch, I'd probably be only at Tier 8 or at the MOST, at the very bottom of Tier 9.
Tier 1-2 Is where you get a taste of action, because tanks here are your level and easily killed.
Tier 3-5 is filled with 88mm guns going against BB guns. The only you CAN do is scout, run into the enemy base and suicide, giving your artilery enough time to bring down their lasers.
Tier 6-8 starts to get even, but only SOMEWHAT, certain tanks (like the Jagdpanzer IV) is uterrly outmatched by IS and IS-3.
Tier 9-10 is what most people try to aim for, the point where you actually have FUN and no more grinding, no more retarded matchups, but then you feel sorry for the sucker who's matched up with you that still has his 88mm L/70.
After beta, when they reset everything, I just couldn't bring myself to grind all that again. Without in-game gold, you sit there for 2 weeks getting to a tier 3 tank and not even enough for a camo net.
If you have gold however, things run fine and you actually HAVE FUN, you don't worry about dying because you make up for it in credits earned.
Just another grindfest MMO, that have a great gameplay, but you have to sit there and grind for 1 month+ to get anything decent.
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The thing about WoT and almost every MMORPG/FPS ever made is grind. GRIND, GRIND, GRIND, an then GRIND some more.
I played during beta where they out free gold every day. For about 2 months, I got up to Tier 5, Tier 6, and Tier 2 in the RU, GE, and US trees respectively. If I put all that together in one branch, I'd probably be only at Tier 8 or at the MOST, at the very bottom of Tier 9.
Tier 1-2 Is where you get a taste of action, because tanks here are your level and easily killed.
Tier 3-5 is filled with 88mm guns going against BB guns. The only you CAN do is scout, run into the enemy base and suicide, giving your artilery enough time to bring down their lasers.
Tier 6-8 starts to get even, but only SOMEWHAT, certain tanks (like the Jagdpanzer IV) is uterrly outmatched by IS and IS-3.
Tier 9-10 is what most people try to aim for, the point where you actually have FUN and no more grinding, no more retarded matchups, but then you feel sorry for the sucker who's matched up with you that still has his 88mm L/70.
After beta, when they reset everything, I just couldn't bring myself to grind all that again. Without in-game gold, you sit there for 2 weeks getting to a tier 3 tank and not even enough for a camo net.
If you have gold however, things run fine and you actually HAVE FUN, you don't worry about dying because you make up for it in credits earned.
Just another grindfest MMO, that have a great gameplay, but you have to sit there and grind for 1 month+ to get anything decent.
it took me a constant grind of getting 13k credits for an AT-1 from the MS-1. and that was 8 hours straight last night. once you buy gold its smooth sailing for a good amount of time. but if you never buy gold (like me) its like winning 10 cents in the lottery...
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You forgot to mention that if you are in a tier 4 light tank, leopard and pz38na to name the german ones, a lot of your matches will be against tier 7-8 tanks. Your gun is less than a bb gun and you have armor made of toilet paper. It's bad enough when you are on the bottom but it's a hell of a lot worse when the top tanks are tiger ii and panther ii. :rolleyes:
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You forgot to mention that if you are in a tier 4 light tank, leopard and pz38na to name the german ones, a lot of your matches will be against tier 7-8 tanks. Your gun is less than a bb gun and you have armor made of toilet paper. It's bad enough when you are on the bottom but it's a hell of a lot worse when the top tanks are tiger ii and panther ii. :rolleyes:
Someone has to do the scouting.
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It's not scouting when you find 2 tanks then get hit and destroyed in one shot by a tank that you can't even see. I will be glad when I am shot of them personally.
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I may have to download and try it.
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It's not scouting when you find 2 tanks then get hit and destroyed in one shot by a tank that you can't even see. I will be glad when I am shot of them personally.
I agree, 98% of the time when I drive my Leopard II I get stuck in a match with lots of Teir 6-8 tanks. Since getting my tier 4 I've only played one match where my tank was one of the better (or evenly matched) tanks on the map. Most of the time I'll try to drive around an scout but I almost always get 1 shotted by a TD or I'll tank 1 hit and lose my engine and track. This is the biggest gripe I have about the game as there is a major gap in gameplay right after tier 4.
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I hate to break it to you guys but when you are in tier 7 tanks all your enemies are tier 8-10 tanks and AT's. Remember to use high explosive shells, they will still do damage even if they don't penetrate. AP shells against a well armored enemy will more likely bounce off, they also lose their effectiveness at long range even against more lightly armored tanks. Use AP rounds if you are shooting at a tank 2 or more tiers below you. And remember the biggest gun isn't always the best choice, sometimes the fastest 1 is better. Keep moving to try to get behind them, less armor there or ram them and try to pin them so arty can nail them. And buy 2 sets of De-Mountable Equipment ( Camouflage Nets, Binocular Telescope, Toolbox.) While 1 is still on a tank knocked out in battle I can mount the other set on another tank and get in another battle.
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Im US SPG and TD specialized. Currently @ M12 and M36.
The game is fun but its got blatant gameplay design issues. It literally is world of heavy tanks. Word of advice: play SPG or heavy tank dont bother with anything else.
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aight, stupid question but i need to know this, just about how long will it take to get all the research XP for the american M40 SPG? im stuck at the M7 now and this is a real grind thats starting to suck.
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Im US SPG and TD specialized. Currently @ M12 and M36.
The game is fun but its got blatant gameplay design issues. It literally is world of heavy tanks. Word of advice: play SPG or heavy tank dont bother with anything else.
My preference is the T-54. I like it better than my IS-7.
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I'd like an invite to the clan... Same handle: Anodizer..
I love the game! Been playing since closed beta... Was mildly upset about losing all my stuff(Tanks, etc.) when it went live...
Haven't been on there much lately, but I'd get back into it if I had people to play with as opposed to being an autonomous target.... :rock
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Anodizer, send Bodhi a PM
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Im US SPG and TD specialized. Currently @ M12 and M36.
The game is fun but its got blatant gameplay design issues. It literally is world of heavy tanks. Word of advice: play SPG or heavy tank dont bother with anything else.
My Patton or T54 will own any tier 10 heavy.
And yes, I have an IS7 and had a Maus in beta, I know how heavies are played.
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My Patton or T54 will own any tier 10 heavy.
And yes, I have an IS7 and had a Maus in beta, I know how heavies are played.
In the worst smackdown I've taken in a company battle the opposing company was all T54's and arty, they seriously kicked our butt.
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In the worst smackdown I've taken in a company battle the opposing company was all T54's and arty, they seriously kicked our butt.
the worst spanking me and my team took was an army of ISU-152's against all of our KV-3's. those guys were sniping the turret off of us from across the map!
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aight, stupid question but i need to know this, just about how long will it take to get all the research XP for the american M40 SPG? im stuck at the M7 now and this is a real grind thats starting to suck.
I currently have the M41.
I will tell you this....enjoy the M7 priest while you have it. The M41 is like playing the Hummel (I have both). If you play anything else besides the M41, it will take you WEEKS to get passed it.
I spend too much time on WoT.
I have in the garage (in order mostly): T34-85, KV (for the free slot coming up, KV-3 (same reason), PnzIV (I love this tank), JadgPanther, Tiger, Tiger II, Lowe, Hummel, T14, T20, T29, T32, M41 & finally an M36 Slugger.
That's off the top of my head lol.
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I d/l and played the game today. too many players with cod mentality. they just rush and try to shoot as many rounds out hoping to hit something. but hey it was different.
semp
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I d/l and played the game today. too many players with cod mentality. they just rush and try to shoot as many rounds out hoping to hit something. but hey it was different.
semp
just go with it for now,you get a lot of that, if you let them piss you off it makes it unenjoyable
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QClM20Q64 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QClM20Q64)
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I'd like an invite to the clan... Same handle: Anodizer..
I love the game! Been playing since closed beta... Was mildly upset about losing all my stuff(Tanks, etc.) when it went live...
Haven't been on there much lately, but I'd get back into it if I had people to play with as opposed to being an autonomous target.... :rock
PM sent.
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Got it downloaded last night. I'll give it a shot tonight after work.
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I currently have the M41.
I will tell you this....enjoy the M7 priest while you have it. The M41 is like playing the Hummel (I have both). If you play anything else besides the M41, it will take you WEEKS to get passed it.
I spend too much time on WoT.
I have in the garage (in order mostly): T34-85, KV (for the free slot coming up, KV-3 (same reason), PnzIV (I love this tank), JadgPanther, Tiger, Tiger II, Lowe, Hummel, T14, T20, T29, T32, M41 & finally an M36 Slugger.
That's off the top of my head lol.
OK. The M41 is NOT like the hummel. the Hummel is worlds better.
Of course it's going to take you weeks to get past. Do you really expect to have an M12 or a Gw Panther within hours? What's the point if grinding if you could have the top tank in a couple days?
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I currently have the M41.
I will tell you this....enjoy the M7 priest while you have it. The M41 is like playing the Hummel (I have both). If you play anything else besides the M41, it will take you WEEKS to get passed it.
by the time i get to the M41, i would have made my M7 an elite already and have blown past alot of tanks in free XP :D also, shells are somewhere around 1000 creds. each, so im going to end my SPG line there and go down the american tank line (im at a pershing, going to start where i left off in the heavy tanks now) and see if ill have enough free xp to work down the russian TD line.
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I'm going down the German line. :lol Play with the tanks until I get elite then go to the next. Of course I keep two elites in my garage for the free xp. I also use one slot for either a US or USSR tank for variety.
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just go with it for now,you get a lot of that, if you let them piss you off it makes it unenjoyable
oh i didnt get upset. i am used to all the new guys upping la7's and spit16 in the ma just to die on the first 20 seconds of the fight :D.
semp
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New tanks coming soon. http://overlord-wot.blogspot.com/2011/04/full-tech-trees-revised-and-improved.html (http://overlord-wot.blogspot.com/2011/04/full-tech-trees-revised-and-improved.html)
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New tanks coming soon. http://overlord-wot.blogspot.com/2011/04/full-tech-trees-revised-and-improved.html (http://overlord-wot.blogspot.com/2011/04/full-tech-trees-revised-and-improved.html)
Date April 30th...one tree is out.
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THere are quite a few of us playing from over here. We have a clan of about 47 now that are mostly people from over here. If you need an invite for the company just say so.
Bohdi, can one of your mates send me an invite? Stoney74 in-game.
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Date April 30th...one tree is out.
The original blog post was April 30th but on the previous page he noted the post was updated august 17th. I'm still almost 2 weeks late in catching it :( If you look close there are a lot of tanks on all 3 trees we don't have yet. And a lot more premium tanks at bottom of each tree including SPG's. :aok
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OK. The M41 is NOT like the hummel. the Hummel is worlds better.
Of course it's going to take you weeks to get past. Do you really expect to have an M12 or a Gw Panther within hours? What's the point if grinding if you could have the top tank in a couple days?
They have the same style. They are fast movers with a slow-ish reload (with rammer) and aim time. Not AWFUL but not great either. The Hummel IMHO IS better, but STATISTICALLY, the M41 is the one you want on your team. ROF and aim time are faster.
As for your question: No, I don't plan on having them in a few hours but compared to the other Tier 6's it takes a while. OBVIOUSLY arty will take longer, I was just letting him know if he played anything BUT his SPG it would take a LONG time.
You have to realize that I've managed to run up EVERY single tree (with the exception of the russian TD & SPG lines), and get to at LEAST tier 6 (with THAT exception being the artillery), and only one tank away from having nothing but Tier 7's. I also love my three Tier 8's. :)
It just makes the arty grind seem MUCH longer compared to the others, which is understandable. Breathe. It'll be O.K. - I promise.
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lol SPGs are like spit16s with tater guns. fun with 1 shot kill ability, but easy to be killed.
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Some of us new guys need to start platooning up and own some newbs in the tier 1-3 battles. :D
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Guys . . it is a battle of manuever.. even in an E-85
(the beast *after* the King Tiger, the one Germany wished they had time to build)
If you try to solo it will be rough.
When I drop into a battle, I look for who is goin out to engage and tag along, hopefully 3 of us or more.
I vulch the *crap* out of any I can.. circle around and hit em from behind while they're busy with someone else.
You'd be amazed how many target fixate and just let you sit there blastin their butt off.
Then there's the fights where no way can you get behind em .. so you sit behind the heavy and listen.
When the opponent fires, move forward, fire, move back behind the heavy or building corner.
Timing is *everything*
It's awesome watching a trio work in a city fight around a corner.
It's even better when yer one of em.
SA .. gotta have it.
Boom an Zoom.. do not stay in one spot after you fire.
Setup yer site using options so it works best for you.
Shoot Straight you Army Pukes!! (from Red Dawn, the original)
Got an invite to a chat channel called 'bigweek' .. search channels for it .. a few always seem to be on there ;)
-Frank aka GE (1Grayeagle in WoT .. in battles mostly .. it truncakes to 1Graye or some such on a battle list)
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Played for about two hours last night. Got my :ahand. I did get all the upgrades for the first german tank researched though. Finally got my first solo kill in my last match of the night.
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Played for about two hours last night. Got my :ahand. I did get all the upgrades for the first german tank researched though. Finally got my first solo kill in my last match of the night.
ive been killin shermans and KV-1's in my VK-3601 since april :t once you get past the PZ3 your put into matches with tanks like the M7 and T29...tier3-7 are all mixed togethor i think. they really screwed up on the balancing.
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I wouldn't even call it a tank. It's a tractor with a cannon.
When I first heard of the game, I assumed I was going to drive real tanks, not tractors.
IMO, the game should've started with tanks from Tier 2 like the M3 Stuart, or Panzer II.
Even then, by the time you start driving REAL tanks, Panzer IV/T34/M4, you start getting blown to bits by artillery and supertanks that were just prototypes during the war. Examples include putting a Hetzer against KV-3s and T29s. You're slow, so you can't scout. Your gun is like a wet noodle.
In other MMOs, at least you can actually DO something while grinding, in WoT, you sit there waiting to get blown up. Only until you reach T9 or T10 tanks does the game FEEL like the way it was meant to play.
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Some of us new guys need to start platooning up and own some newbs in the tier 1-3 battles. :D
Yea my ingame name is belial124 send me some invites guys and my bros name is tf15pin send him one too.
I don't even really enjoy the game but it's a nice break from AH as there are never any good tank fights.
I'm only up to the Panzer3 and the PZ35 or whatever but I'm decent at it, I just started running a TD AT-1 and thats my favorite.
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ive been killin shermans and KV-1's in my VK-3601 since april :t once you get past the PZ3 your put into matches with tanks like the M7 and T29...tier3-7 are all mixed togethor i think. they really screwed up on the balancing.
I knew they wouldn't get that crap straight, why i was done when it went live. No way i was grinding back to Tiger, TigerII & JagdTiger again.
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In game name is.....wow the same as here.....would love to team up with the other AH derelicts.
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I knew they wouldn't get that crap straight, why i was done when it went live. No way i was grinding back to Tiger, TigerII & JagdTiger again.
im past my VK-3601 and onto the Tiger2. im currently working my way up the chain with the M7 priest SPG but that is a grind thats even worse than having to be stuck with tier 6 tanks in a PZ-3. its only worse because of the xp you have to gain then the cost of the M40. i can easily kill a KV-3/1S with a few shots but the way those damn leopards sneak up and dont die from a single hit up close in the turret is screwed up. i wish that i could stick with the guys in the KV's/T29's instead of being groped by 10 A-20's
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I know the clan I'm in (Chewie as well), has been running "grouped platoons" as we call it. We normally end up with two platoons in the same match, on the same side. It's fun. :P
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man id kill to get into a platoon, but alas, someone has cut my pantaloons. meaning, my SPG's arent good enough to kill with the guys in the tier 8-10 class.
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Do we have a channel setup in game we can meet on? I'm usually on every night and I'd love to platoon up with some guys for low tier matches.
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me too will it matter if Im on the euro servers?
if not hit me up anytime Im on as "Vuduvince"
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This AT-1 is pretty nice I don't think i want to upgrade then i'll be dying again lol
Someone invite me to the wutang clan lol I need squaddies.
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This AT-1 is pretty nice I don't think i want to upgrade then i'll be dying again lol
Someone invite me to the wutang clan lol I need squaddies.
the AT-1 is hardly anything. wait till ya get to the SU-100. thats fun!
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the AT-1 was pretty awesome for low teir fighting,im grinding the A20 and M10 right now
ingame:jayboyd
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I will reiterate this again for all the new guys.
There is a combined AH group of players that all run together. Anyone interested can PM me with your ingame name and I will send you an invite. We run together every night and use a TS server for commo.
Again, all are welcome.
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WOB is coming out mid 2012... I'll keep yall abreat of the situation.
World Of Battleships will change names.
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Downloaded it the other day.... I've only played it for about 4+ hours. Oh boy, it's fun! :x And I have not left the starter tank yet. :joystick: I just brought it to elite and really have just been messing around. Here is a fun little tid bit, I did not upgrade the tank in any way till I finally got my 1st kill. It also means that I was spending more than a few battles burning on a field or next to a bush. :lol Now I run my MS-1 around with the 45mm. At the moment though, I'm kind of wondering what route I should take. :headscratch: SPG's look like a bit of fun, but TD's are also a juicy route to follow...
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I've been in there myself, play as 3rdNY_Cpl. Its gamey and goofy, but there just isn't anything better right now for tank gaming. The damage and gunnery is a joke, but it looks pretty and it is a great way to kill a few hours on a night off or unwind for a bit after work.
My main gripe is a ll the drawing-board übertanks that have already been included or confirmed as future additions. I miss the AH rule of 'if it didn't get mass produced and see combat, it doesn't get added'. That and having to face Korean War era US and Soviet stuff in a 1943 German Panzer. :/
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Oh, WoT could no way in hell get me to cancel my sub here. Pffft Eff that. The only real thing WoT has going are, 1) LOT more vehicles; 2) Eye candy; 3) VERY quick to get into fights. WoT is a change of pace, really. Don't wish to do the sim 24/7. Gotta get an arcade fix in there now and again. :D
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Downloaded it the other day.... I've only played it for about 4+ hours. Oh boy, it's fun! :x And I have not left the starter tank yet. :joystick: I just brought it to elite and really have just been messing around. Here is a fun little tid bit, I did not upgrade the tank in any way till I finally got my 1st kill. It also means that I was spending more than a few battles burning on a field or next to a bush. :lol Now I run my MS-1 around with the 45mm. At the moment though, I'm kind of wondering what route I should take. :headscratch: SPG's look like a bit of fun, but TD's are also a juicy route to follow...
stick wit that MS-1 and get as much free XP as you can as it will come in handy later on in the higher tier tanks such as the T34 and KV's. the MS-1 with the 45mm is AMAZING. ive knocked the metal off of loltracktors from 200m away in one shot. but dont take the SPG line unless you like waiting and watching then after your idiots go suicide scout you finally kill something. other than that, id take the heavy tank line over the TD's as you dont die as much in them :lol
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For you new guys: Don't forget that once you die, you can hit escape and leave that battle and hop in one of your other tanks.
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My tank list as it stands
Elite Luchs
Elite marder II
Elite StugIII
Elite pzIV
Elite VK3002DB
Elite Panther
Lowe
Maus
Fully upgraded IS4 except 130mm
Fully upgraded Jagdpz IV
Fully upgraded Hummel
Fully upgraded Panther II
Working on getting 130mm gun on IS4 but my clan RDR (Rommels desert rats) wants me to stick with german
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Working on getting 130mm gun on IS4 but my clan RDR (Rommels desert rats) wants me to stick with german
That is rediculous and a tremendous handicap for the game.
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Just a reminder for anyone that is interested, we have a clan in game made up primarily of AH people. Feel free to PM me and I will send an invite.
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WOT will never float your boat if AH isn't...
If your a pilot, this game is a total waste of time
If your an AH ground junkie then maybe it has something to offer
If your a bomber pilot..it is a huge waste
Played it for 6 weeks and got to the Panzer IV...
Deleted my account and have never looked back
There is nothing here/there unless your a Counterstrike fan and like driving iron instead of bunny hopping with the AWP
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< been playing for a week on EU servers as having a break from AH. Not going to spend any money on it, it is fun sometimes, but the match ups don't work that well, its annoying getting hit by arty from other side of map and on the random servers there's little coordination or strategy. I'm sure I'll get bored soon.
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looked for ya in game Bodhi and got a whole list of 'bodhiXXX' names ..which one are ya?
-Frank aka GE (1Grayeagle in WoT, 1Graye.. on battle list .. the crazy bastage that scouts with a Tigger)
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looked for ya in game Bodhi and got a whole list of 'bodhiXXX' names ..which one are ya?
-Frank aka GE (1Grayeagle in WoT, 1Graye.. on battle list .. the crazy bastage that scouts with a Tigger)
so you like to bounce?
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Bodhi83
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i think you killed me today belial. :( you made me dead with 3 shots i believe into my hull on my PZ-3A :lol that thing sucks when it comes to armor
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i think you killed me today belial. :( you made me dead with 3 shots i believe into my hull on my PZ-3A :lol that thing sucks when it comes to armor
probably lol
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I downloaded the game and then read this thread. Seeing the word 'grind' completely destroyed it for me and I never went online.
How bad of a grind is it?
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It's only a bad grind if you let it bother you. Once you hit Tier 5 it becomes a lot more fun. Or you could whip out 5 bucks and buy a T14. They aren't GREAT but they're decent money makers and good experience makers.
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If you're like me and play about 5 games a day, it takes about a week to buy a fully upgraded Tier 3 Tank. Tier 5 takes 2 weeks. Tier 6-10 is going to be months.
You have to grind TWO things. Money AND Experience. Also note that from Tier 5-8, you are matched horribly against either MUCH stronger tanks (likely) or completely faceroll the other team (unlikely). Prime example is the German TD Hetzer going up against tanks it can't even track.
It's fun if you play it every now and then, but to sit there and grind....God it's a nightmare.
Of course, buying stuff using real life money makes it 100x easier.
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You have to grind TWO things. Money AND Experience. Also note that from Tier 5-8, you are matched horribly against either MUCH stronger tanks (likely) or completely faceroll the other team (unlikely). Prime example is the German TD Hetzer going up against tanks it can't even track.
It's fun if you play it every now and then, but to sit there and grind....God it's a nightmare.
Of course, buying stuff using real life money makes it 100x easier.
the guys who made it really f***** up on the balancing. they said it would be fixed but its no different from beta.
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Yep, like I posted before, I got up to Tier 6 (7? I forgot) with the German TDs. It was easy enough with the free gold they gave out during beta, you really didn't have to worry about money, only experience. Without gold, you might unlock tanks 2 Tiers above but not have enough money to advance to it. The grind is just horrendous in this game.
I can tell you this though, if you decide to go down the German TD tree, the Marder II, and the Stug III are some of the best fun youll ever have.
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I can tell you this though, if you decide to go down the German TD tree, the Marder II, and the Stug III are some of the best fun youll ever have.
im working on the german heavy lines right now, and i gotta say the VK-3601 is more of a grind than anything. when i had my tigers in beta i made creds off them. i only used gold to buy premium so id get thru xp faster. the StuG and jagdtiger are the funnest TD's ever in that game :D
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I honestly think the designers put certain tanks down the tech tree to make us all grind for it. The GOOD tanks are spaced out between long painful grinds to make us want to play more.
Which brings me to another point. After beta ended, the developers put out a contest to see who would hit Tier 10 first. I was AMAZED at the speed of which some guys got there. It took me 3 months WITH gold just to hit Tier 6/7. These guys did it to 10 in a month. Makes me wonder if they sat there 24/7 or had mutiple people on one account.
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I downloaded the game and then read this thread. Seeing the word 'grind' completely destroyed it for me and I never went online.
How bad of a grind is it?
Its not that bad if you don't let it worry you. Just fight other tanks and let the grind take care of itself. Some of the best fun is running around in T1 and T2 battles in an MS-1 or a BT-2.
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Just got a Pzkpwf III/IV I think it's tier 5 actually don't hate the tank for once...and it makes credits even if i lose in it lol
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If you dont want to spend a lot of time grinding, research and elite the marder II. Best tank for its tier by a long way, always earns xp and creds. If matchmaker screws you at its worst, you will be able to put the hurt on anything that shows its face.
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The 3/4 is one of the funnest mediums in the game.
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Delirium <S> Bro long time. I have been playing the game since beta with Bodhi and the clan. I love it! The grid is not that bad when you Platoon up guys, just like AH having help is worth it!
I would love to see you on and playing with us Del :aok :salute
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I downloaded the game and then read this thread. Seeing the word 'grind' completely destroyed it for me and I never went online.
How bad of a grind is it?
I don't think its that bad. Early on is really quick to go from one tank to the other. At higher levels, there is more of a grind involved, but if you work with teammates it can be rather fun. One way I look at it is that luckily, by the time I have enough xp and credits to buy the next tier vehicle, my crew is well trained, and I've learned a lot more about how to employ it, and how to work the maps effectively. I'll caveat that by saying I haven't gone past tier 7 in anything.
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I really do not look at it as a grind either. I am simply having fun and building experience in a crew I am going to move to a new tank. Right now, we are having a blast with the guys we have from AH in our clan and are becoming more and more competitive everyday. Last night we made it to the territory battle after a tough tournament. Everyone involved had an absolute blast, not to mention we got to really stick it to a known group of crap talkers.
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ive been working down the american TD line. im close to getting my M10 wolverine. that looks like a fun TD, even if im just putting around in it.
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I really do not look at it as a grind either. I am simply having fun and building experience in a crew I am going to move to a new tank. Right now, we are having a blast with the guys we have from AH in our clan and are becoming more and more competitive everyday. Last night we made it to the territory battle after a tough tournament. Everyone involved had an absolute blast, not to mention we got to really stick it to a known group of crap talkers.
Yep. :rock
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ive been working down the american TD line. im close to getting my M10 wolverine. that looks like a fun TD, even if im just putting around in it.
The M10 isn't as fun as I thought it would be. You tend to get 1 shotted a lot, but when you get the upgraded turret on the M36 slugger, that's a different story.
One thing you can do is keep your M10 when you get it and save up TONS of XP because the M10 will branch off to the M18 when they release the next US Tank patch.
Another tip for you new guys: Once you get a Tier 5 tank, keep it if you don't have a premium tank. Tier 5 is where the money is at. Once you hit Tier 7, you'll be paying 1K credits per shell.
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The M10 isn't as fun as I thought it would be. You tend to get 1 shotted a lot, but when you get the upgraded turret on the M36 slugger, that's a different story.
One thing you can do is keep your M10 when you get it and save up TONS of XP because the M10 will branch off to the M18 when they release the next US Tank patch.
Another tip for you new guys: Once you get a Tier 5 tank, keep it if you don't have a premium tank. Tier 5 is where the money is at. Once you hit Tier 7, you'll be paying 1K credits per shell.
i get 1 shotted alot in my priest by the scouts that feel the need to put a massive gun on their tank that only damages arty because the penetration sucks on it.
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They load it with HE. ;)
I'd do it too. Being a scout sucks imho. :P
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i get 1 shotted alot in my priest by the scouts that feel the need to put a massive gun on their tank that only damages arty because the penetration sucks on it.
Did you get my PM about the priest skorpion?
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Did you get my PM about the priest skorpion?
yes sir and thanks for the info aswell <S>
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I think the most fun German TD is the Marder II- got a 9 kill run on it on my old account (restarted after I got sick of a bunch of the guys I had been playing with). The German mediums, especially the Pz III and the Pz III/IV are a blast, but from my experience before restarting, anything higher than the VK series of experimentals lose so much money when you lose the battle without a premium account that they ruin you- I went bankrupt less than a week after I got my Panther, and I never got enough xp to upgrade it much. Thing was a shell magnet in every battle, and the matches it got put into, the stock 75 bounced off everything. It was the Leo all over again.
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I think the most fun German TD is the Marder II- got a 9 kill run on it on my old account (restarted after I got sick of a bunch of the guys I had been playing with). The German mediums, especially the Pz III and the Pz III/IV are a blast, but from my experience before restarting, anything higher than the VK series of experimentals lose so much money when you lose the battle without a premium account that they ruin you- I went bankrupt less than a week after I got my Panther, and I never got enough xp to upgrade it much. Thing was a shell magnet in every battle, and the matches it got put into, the stock 75 bounced off everything. It was the Leo all over again.
my driver likes to catch every single shell that comes my way :uhoh
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Got the VK3601 with the 88mm favorite tank so far
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Got the VK3601 with the 88mm favorite tank so far
:rock whoo! finally, someone with a tank just as good as mine! 88mm on that thing is a beast. took out a KV-1S in a single shot.
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Got the VK3601 with the 88mm favorite tank so far
My favorite so far between the two runs is the VK 3002 DB with the 88 and all the other upgrades. Fast, agile, well sloped armor and great gun. Its just so... evil.... >:}
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I dominated with the Sherman 105mm In the beta. Good sniping tank. Was great at annoying tigers&Is-3 with. Got some hate msgs with it too. Ah how i miss it...
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I dominated with the Sherman 105mm In the beta. Good sniping tank. Was great at annoying tigers&Is-3 with. Got some hate msgs with it too. Ah how i miss it...
how could the 105mm possibly penetrate a tigers armor? let alone a IS-3? it had a penetration of 53/150 (150 on very rare occasions) and that completely sucks, unless your loading all HEAT rounds then your not gonna do much damage. you would have been better off with a normal 75mm.
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how could the 105mm possibly penetrate a tigers armor? let alone a IS-3? it had a penetration of 53/150 (150 on very rare occasions) and that completely sucks, unless your loading all HEAT rounds then your not gonna do much damage. you would have been better off with a normal 75mm.
1. The stats on the tanks in WoT's are notorious for being innacurate to what they really are in game. From the front shot on a Tiger from Close range, i was chipping away atleast 20-30% damage, Sides were usually a 35-40% damage shot. Behind was 40-45%.
2. I was in The Britannia clan in the beta, We experimented on Each tank and learned their weak spots. Each tank has specific spots that allow critical hits. The 105 is great at getting Critical hits.
3.Like i said, the 105mm sherman just had a fun factor to it as well which kept me using it.
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1. The stats on the tanks in WoT's are notorious for being innacurate to what they really are in RL. From the front shot on a Tiger from Close range, i was chipping away atleast 20-30% damage, Sides were usually a 35-40% damage shot. Behind was 40-45%.
in game is what were talking about, not real life, the sherman 105 is tiger food. especially at long ranges. a tiger would pop that turret right off from 600m in 2 shots. as for the IS-3. well, that beast would 1 shot a sherman easily.
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in game is what were talking about, not real life, the sherman 105 is tiger food. especially at long ranges. a tiger would pop that turret right off from 600m in 2 shots. as for the IS-3. well, that beast would 1 shot a sherman easily.
I meant in-game, I reread and noticed my mistake of saying RL, and changed it, guess it didn't show up on your screen.
The sherman 105 is Not a front-line tank. I Played it as a TD. Staying back, and Sniping. Which was very effective. Feel free to look up my Beta stats with the 105 if they are still available. You'll see i have many kills on tiger 1-2's.
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I meant in-game, I reread and noticed my mistake of saying RL, and changed it, guess it didn't show up on your screen.
The sherman 105 is Not a front-line tank. I Played it as a TD. Staying back, and Sniping. Which was very effective. Feel free to look up my Beta stats with the 105 if they are still available. You'll see i have many kills on tiger 1-2's.
the sherman cant even penetrate a tiger2's frontal armor, and by the time a tiger2 realized a low speed, low velocity shell hit him, he had his turret turned around to you and you would probably have been dead before you got to reload...i think your starting to BS about the game a bit...:noid
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the sherman cant even penetrate a tiger2's frontal armor, and by the time a tiger2 realized a low speed, low velocity shell hit him, he had his turret turned around to you and you would probably have been dead before you got to reload...i think your starting to BS about the game a bit...:noid
Like i said, feel free to look up my stats.
Or have a friend up a tiger/tiger 2, And take shots on it with the 105 from Various angles, and you'l see how much you are wrong.
And the tiger cant get his sights on me if he doesn't even see me, thanks to WoT's broken spotting system.
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Like i said, feel free to look up my stats.
Or have a friend up a tiger/tiger 2, And take shots on it with the 105 from Various angles, and you'l see how much you are wrong.
And the tiger cant get his sights on me if he doesn't even see me, thanks to WoT's broken spotting system.
ive taken potshots at a tiger2 in my VK3601 up close at its sides with HE rounds that penetrated and hardly did 30% damage. (88MM gun) and ive tried that before i got my E8 sherman. the 105 does NOT penetrate 150mm of frontal armor. unless your shoving your 105 rounds right up his arse, then your not going to do much damage. especially at long ranges like you said.
EDIT: the IS-3 you said you could penetrate with the 105mm is pure BS. im not stepping in it because the IS-3 has 210mm of frontal armor and 140mm of side armor. try again.
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Loving the Ah WoT community so far. :rock
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how could the 105mm possibly penetrate a tigers armor? let alone a IS-3? it had a penetration of 53/150 (150 on very rare occasions) and that completely sucks, unless your loading all HEAT rounds then your not gonna do much damage. you would have been better off with a normal 75mm.
You don't use AP when using the 105. Just like the 152mm on the KV, you use strictly HE. Unlike AH, the HE in WoT explodes when it comes in contact with an enemy tank (most of the time they do NOT penetrate, but still do damage - less if the enemy has spall liner).
I would lol so hard if someone whipped out the 152 with AP rounds.
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The sherman 105 is Not a front-line tank. I Played it as a TD. Staying back, and Sniping. Which was very effective. Feel free to look up my Beta stats with the 105 if they are still available. You'll see i have many kills on tiger 1-2's.
1.) Sniping and Sherman 105 don't belong in the same sentence.
2.) Kills don't mean squat.
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You don't use AP when using the 105. Just like the 152mm on the KV, you use strictly HE. Unlike AH, the HE in WoT explodes when it comes in contact with an enemy tank (most of the time they do NOT penetrate, but still do damage - less if the enemy has spall liner).
I would lol so hard if someone whipped out the 152 with AP rounds.
HE hardly does any damage to the IS-3 if its a 105 sherman. especially at long ranges like hes BSing about. maybe 5% damage if it even reaches it. the Tiger2 would take about 7% damage. if it penetrated (VERY unlikely) it would only do 20% damage. once again, hes lying about his sherman. the 105 sherman wouldnt even be paired up with an IS-3 because its a tier 8 tank. sherman is tier 5. the Tiger2 is a tier 7 and the sherman MIGHT get paired up with it.
just his dose of BS, but im not gonna step in it.
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HE hardly does any damage to the IS-3 if its a 105 sherman. especially at long ranges like hes BSing about. maybe 5% damage if it even reaches it. the Tiger2 would take about 7% damage. if it penetrated (VERY unlikely) it would only do 20% damage. once again, hes lying about his sherman. the 105 sherman wouldnt even be paired up with an IS-3 because its a tier 8 tank. sherman is tier 5. the Tiger2 is a tier 7 and the sherman MIGHT get paired up with it.
just his dose of BS, but im not gonna step in it.
Tiger 2 is a Tier 8. The Sherman 105 does do good damage to tier 8 tanks. Before you bash other people, get your facts straight, tard.
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Tiger 2 is a Tier 8. The Sherman 105 does do good damage to tier 8 tanks. Before you bash other people, get your facts straight, tard.
so your saying a low velocity 105mm does good damage when it doesnt even penetrate? ok, go into the game with a 105 sherman against a tiger2 and see how many rounds he shrugs off. ive seen a 105 hit a tiger2 from a good distance and hardly do 5% damage.
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I don't currently have a Sherman (skipped it for now), but I had that line in Beta and used the short 105 the Sherman gets on the T-20 and Pershing just for the hell of it. The gun is hardly fit for high tiers but it does a hefty amount to a Tier 8 target if it doesn't bounce (know how to aim and it won't bounce much), but it is not an AP gun no short-barrel gun is really. The short 105 is not a gun fit for sniping at 0.48 accuracy. The 76mm is more fitting, but the 105 can easily do damage to a Tiger II.
As for the Tiering an M4 vs Tiger II, easily possibly. The match making allows a T5 medium to go into T5-9 battles.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mKg4f3fdOZA/ThMXzbyo5qI/AAAAAAAAAow/wggaiNHyGYM/I/MMS_chart.jpg)
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/10168-match-making-system/page__pid__129225#entry129225
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so your saying a low velocity 105mm does good damage when it doesnt even penetrate? ok, go into the game with a 105 sherman against a tiger2 and see how many rounds he shrugs off. ive seen a 105 hit a tiger2 from a good distance and hardly do 5% damage.
Because the 105 is a derp, not meant for distance.
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so your saying a low velocity 105mm does good damage when it doesnt even penetrate? ok, go into the game with a 105 sherman against a tiger2 and see how many rounds he shrugs off. ive seen a 105 hit a tiger2 from a good distance and hardly do 5% damage.
Youre right it doesn't penetrate because it is a Howitzer, i.e. it is High Explosive. And if it happens to penetrate (obviously not a King Tiger) it kills alot of things inside. The 105mm Howitzer on the M4 will DAMAGE any tank in game including a Maus (maybe 10 hitpoints).
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Because the 105 is a derp, not meant for distance.
from what tyrannis is saying, he said that he was poppin off turrets from (maybe) 500m+ and that is a load of BS. what im trying to get at is that he could have killed a tiger2, maybe an is-3 but not from the "long" ranges hes saying. his form of sniping is probably using a buckshot round in a shotgun at a piece of paper up close. what he's saying is that hes punching thru a piece of sheet metal with an explosive bb from 500m+ will it do damage? yes. will it do very much? no.
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I haven't played in awhile, but was in beta with a good number of the FW crowd. I didn't really feel it was a grind either, just fun.
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from what tyrannis is saying, he said that he was poppin off turrets from (maybe) 500m+ and that is a load of BS. what im trying to get at is that he could have killed a tiger2, maybe an is-3 but not from the "long" ranges hes saying. his form of sniping is probably using a buckshot round in a shotgun at a piece of paper up close. what he's saying is that hes punching thru a piece of sheet metal with an explosive bb from 500m+ will it do damage? yes. will it do very much? no.
What tanks do you have in this game?
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What tanks do you have in this game?
in beta i had a E8 sherman, a VK 3601 and a tiger1.
right now im grinding my way down the american TD line, im at the M40 working on the M10. i sold most of my tanks so i could have some extra cred's when i buy my M10 and when i buy my M40 in the SPG's.
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from what tyrannis is saying, he said that he was poppin off turrets from (maybe) 500m+ and that is a load of BS. what im trying to get at is that he could have killed a tiger2, maybe an is-3 but not from the "long" ranges hes saying. his form of sniping is probably using a buckshot round in a shotgun at a piece of paper up close. what he's saying is that hes punching thru a piece of sheet metal with an explosive bb from 500m+ will it do damage? yes. will it do very much? no.
for 1. have you ever even HAD the Sherman 105? How can you say it DOESN'T do something when you yourself haven't even played around with the tank?
2. Learn the weak points of every common tank you run into, and even from distance, you can do a great amount of damage. HE rounds are great for killing The little guys inside, and crippling the tank.
3.I never payed attenchian to the exact distance i was, but i'll give you an example of the sniping distance i was at:
On the desert map. The one with hills on both sides, and a little down down in the middle, Most tanks like to sit ontop of their hill and snipe anyone who travels down into that little town.
I decided to hide in a bush on the top of the hill, and snipe at any of the campers on the other hill. As my team moved up, they started spotting the enemy tanks.
From the little bush on my side of the hill, i was sniping all the way to their other side. I took out 3 tanks. a tiger1. a T1, and a Panzer IV just sniping from one hilltop to the other. And took out a t34 who had snuck around our side of the hill and was attempting to take our flag.
Tiger 2's are fearsome, But even they have their weakness.
-I spot a tiger 2.
-Fire on his tracks.Tracking him.
-If i can get a shot on his engine, i'll start firing on that.
-If he has the back of his turret exposed to me, I'll fire for the escape hatch.
-If his tank is facing me. I'll fire for the Drivers Slit.
-The tiger II has a weak point in it's side armor but i dont remember what it is, havent played WoT in awhile.
Now, you can keep saying "Oh well you cant do that!.." skorpion, But from both this thread and the other thread its blatantly Obvious are a tard who has no idea what they are talking about. So your best to just drop the subject.
If ever i get back into WoT i'd be happy to 1v1 your tiger in a 105. Last i left off on was a Lee, so im pretty close.
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RE: 105mm Sherman.
I haven't played WOT as my computer likes it even less than AH2, but.....
Is the 105 Sherman in WOT the 105mm Howitzer or the 105mm CN 105 F1 (http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product519.html) used in the Israeli M-51 Super Sherman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Sherman)?
Kind of a difference.
wrongway
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105 SPH M4L23.
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for 1. have you ever even HAD the Sherman 105? How can you say it DOESN'T do something when you yourself haven't even played around with the tank?
2. Learn the weak points of every common tank you run into, and even from distance, you can do a great amount of damage. HE rounds are great for killing The little guys inside, and crippling the tank.
3.I never payed attenchian to the exact distance i was, but i'll give you an example of the sniping distance i was at:
On the desert map. The one with hills on both sides, and a little down down in the middle, Most tanks like to sit ontop of their hill and snipe anyone who travels down into that little town.
I decided to hide in a bush on the top of the hill, and snipe at any of the campers on the other hill. As my team moved up, they started spotting the enemy tanks.
From the little bush on my side of the hill, i was sniping all the way to their other side. I took out 3 tanks. a tiger1. a T1, and a Panzer IV just sniping from one hilltop to the other. And took out a t34 who had snuck around our side of the hill and was attempting to take our flag.
Tiger 2's are fearsome, But even they have their weakness.
-I spot a tiger 2.
-Fire on his tracks.Tracking him.
-If i can get a shot on his engine, i'll start firing on that.
-If he has the back of his turret exposed to me, I'll fire for the escape hatch.
-If his tank is facing me. I'll fire for the Drivers Slit.
-The tiger II has a weak point in it's side armor but i dont remember what it is, havent played WoT in awhile.
Now, you can keep saying "Oh well you cant do that!.." skorpion, But from both this thread and the other thread its blatantly Obvious are a tard who has no idea what they are talking about. So your best to just drop the subject.
If ever i get back into WoT i'd be happy to 1v1 your tiger in a 105. Last i left off on was a Lee, so im pretty close.
yes, i have had a sherman 105. kind of how i got my E8 sherman. so i know what im talking about, the 105 sherman hardly damages a tiger2. let alone the IS-3 you said. you hit the tracks? well, thats just gonna annoy him and he looses a track. hit the engine and it dies, not much going on there. hitting the drivers slit? really? that does nothing but kill the driver and not much else.
the distances, those are over 600m from hilltop to hilltop the accuracy for a 105 sherman at 100m is .48, seriously, you only wish you could snipe with that much accuracy at 600m. unless you have a long barrel 105 then your not doing much damage to a tiger unless hes already hurting bad. the sides of each tank are obviously softer, but your saying your killing IS-3's? yeah...ok.. :rolleyes: i find your level of intelligence to be minimal having to call me a tard when your saying to look up your stats that are no longer available? obviously there are weak spots, but you getting a shot at the tiger/IS-3 each time is BS as your saying you do, and getting a killshot each time with it. im not saying you cant kill a tiger in the 105 im saying that its EXTREMELY hard to do so, especially on the IS-3. if you dont have any proof, then dont bring it up. if you did, then id believe it until that happens (probably never will) dont even make up a lie like that. the 105 sherman is such a low velocity gun that its hard to penetrate a tigers armor at just 200m. and yes, i do know this because i did do the research unlike you. your argument is nil.
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yes, i have had a sherman 105. kind of how i got my E8 sherman. so i know what im talking about, the 105 sherman hardly damages a tiger2. let alone the IS-3 you said. you hit the tracks? well, thats just gonna annoy him and he looses a track. hit the engine and it dies, not much going on there. hitting the drivers slit? really? that does nothing but kill the driver and not much else.
no. no you dont. which youve proven already both in this thread and in the f6f vs p47 thread. Im done arguing with such a hard-headed person. have fun thinking your "right skorpion. Hope it makes you feel better about youself in life :banana:
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no. no you dont. which youve proven already both in this thread and in the f6f vs p47 thread. Im done arguing with such a hard-headed person. have fun thinking your "right skorpion. Hope it makes you feel better about youself in life :banana:
are you butthurt? or do you know your wrong? because i did research, i did test this out with a friend, and i did write down the facts. i put a 105mm howitzer on my T40 in WOT recently and i got into a match with a IS. i hit him 3 times and only did 20 damage with all 3 shots combined togethor, and i was shooting him in the sides. you want proof, go grab an IS, let me use my 105 howitzer T40 on it and show you how much the gun sucks. especially at long ranges. (HE shots)
and do you have your proof that im wrong yet? no? ok, that works.
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are you butthurt? or do you know your wrong? because i did research, i did test this out with a friend, and i did write down the facts. i put a 105mm howitzer on my T40 in WOT recently and i got into a match with a IS. i hit him 3 times and only did 20 damage with all 3 shots combined togethor, and i was shooting him in the sides. you want proof, go grab an IS, let me use my 105 howitzer T40 on it and show you how much the gun sucks. especially at long ranges. (HE shots)
and do you have your proof that im wrong yet? no? ok, that works.
lol. You seem to call everyone else "butthurt" when in reality, its you. Did it in the other thread, doing it in this thread.
My proof is my own personal experiance with the sherman 105mm, coupled with the knowledge of weak points of various common tanks.
And also the fact that you rarely know what YOU are talking about, which makes most of what you say "Nil"
Like i said in the p47 vs f6f thread, where you were trying to say "in your hands" a p47D11 can "Easily" outturn an f6f, Record your tests, upload to mediafire, then post them here. So we can all evaluate. Your research doesnt mean squat if all you can do is say "this&this happened.." without Some type of results to show for others to inspect.
Ibfor"imnotdoingthisforyou..." :rolleyes:
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lol. You seem to call everyone else "butthurt" when in reality, its you. Did it in the other thread, doing it in this thread.
My proof is my own personal experiance with the sherman 105mm, coupled with the knowledge of weak points of various common tanks.
And also the fact that you rarely know what YOU are talking about, which makes most of what you say "Nil"
Like i said in the p47 vs f6f thread, where you were trying to say "in your hands" a p47D11 can "Easily" outturn an f6f, Record your tests, upload to mediafire, then post them here. So we can all evaluate. Your research doesnt mean squat if all you can do is say "this&this happened.." without Some type of results to show for others to inspect.
Ibfor"imnotdoingthisforyou..." :rolleyes:
i find your butthurt even bigger now that your bringing in other threads. your 19, arguing with me being 14, and you think that because your older, your smarter on everything? yeah...ok...sure. i did the research, and i have screenshots of the shots i made with the 105 howitzer on the IS and the damage. you want them? because i have my proof and you still dont.
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i find your butthurt even bigger now that your bringing in other threads. your 19, arguing with me being 14, and you think that because your older, your smarter on everything? yeah...ok...sure. i did the research, and i have screenshots of the shots i made with the 105 howitzer on the IS and the damage. you want them? because i have my proof and you still dont.
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whatever helps you think your right skorpy. Im out.
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:rofl
whatever helps you think your right skorpy. Im out.
alright, dont want my proof then? fine. anyone else want it?
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RE: 105mm Sherman.
I haven't played WOT as my computer likes it even less than AH2, but.....
Is the 105 Sherman in WOT the 105mm Howitzer or the 105mm CN 105 F1 (http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product519.html) used in the Israeli M-51 Super Sherman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Sherman)?
Kind of a difference.
wrongway
The 105 Sherman in WoT is a tad over modeled compared to its historical counter part. Basically, in WoT you have a tank that was an armored mobile artillery vehicle with bad anti-tank capabilities being used in WoT in a role it was hardly used for because it wasn't intended to fight other tanks, regardless of the size of its main gun.
The Israeli's used both the 105mm howitzer M4 Sherman and the Sherman/Isherman M-51 with the CN 105 F1 main tank gun.
ack-ack
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I'm not going to argue over the internet because that just exposes stupidity but I will say this:
Saying it is impossible to snipe with that gun is ridiculous. My friend and I both practice sniping with the 152mm "derp" gun on the KV and we both tend to do very well.
Is it difficult? Yes.
Is it impossible? Only for those who are too impatient.
I was one of the original beta testers (July 2010) for the NA edition so I've seen my fair share of :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch: shots but it's normal there and personally - stupid stuff like this is pointless. Why even bother to argue about a video game over the internet?
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I'm not going to argue over the internet because that just exposes stupidity but I will say this:
Saying it is impossible to snipe with that gun is ridiculous. My friend and I both practice sniping with the 152mm "derp" gun on the KV and we both tend to do very well.
Is it difficult? Yes.
Is it impossible? Only for those who are too impatient.
I agree. When I was in the M10 I used the 105mm howitzer and I sniped with it with great results. HE rounds are made for sniping due to the game mechanics of the HE rounds not losing penetration value with range (whereas AP rounds lose 25% past 200m and 10% for every 100m after that). If you have a very high damage HE round that reload slowly like those on a howitzer then sniping is the best thing you can do.
The round has the same 30% chance to miss the spot you aimed for. The howitzer's accuracy stats, as a game mechanic, have -NOTHING- to do with its to-hit chance. All it does is make the aiming reticle narrower or larger. The aiming reticle is the area where the shell will hit if it rolls a miss.
Hence, once you get a hang of the gun itself, you can have the same hit ratio that you have in super-accurate guns.
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This thread is sad. skorpion, have you ever used HE in WoT?? if so, you would realize that HE damages just about everything it hits. that's how arty works. that how the 105mm works. when I had my Sherman in beta I stuck the 105 on it and owned just about everything I came across. apparently you are too thick-headed to realize you are wrong, and you will probably try to insult me with your next incorrect post. I dont have a sherman in my garage atm because I havnt played my acct much but if I get one I will gladly do a training battle with you and wreck your precious tiger.
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This thread is sad. skorpion, have you ever used HE in WoT?? if so, you would realize that HE damages just about everything it hits. that's how arty works. that how the 105mm works. when I had my Sherman in beta I stuck the 105 on it and owned just about everything I came across. apparently you are too thick-headed to realize you are wrong, and you will probably try to insult me with your next incorrect post. I dont have a sherman in my garage atm because I havnt played my acct much but if I get one I will gladly do a training battle with you and wreck your precious tiger.
Amazing little tank for its Tier eh?
When i get back into Wot i plan on just getting the sherman 105 and sticking with it while i work my way up the american TD line.
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This thread is sad. skorpion, have you ever used HE in WoT?? if so, you would realize that HE damages just about everything it hits. that's how arty works. that how the 105mm works. when I had my Sherman in beta I stuck the 105 on it and owned just about everything I came across. apparently you are too thick-headed to realize you are wrong, and you will probably try to insult me with your next incorrect post. I dont have a sherman in my garage atm because I havnt played my acct much but if I get one I will gladly do a training battle with you and wreck your precious tiger.
You need to be careful when you say 'HE damages about everything it hits' . While technically true there's a big difference between the HE Artillery rounds, the HE from howitzer guns and the HE from regular tank guns.
The HE from artillery has insanely high damage range and good penetration for an HE round. Plus the artillery tends to drop those rounds on the soft upper armor thats why they hurt so much.
HE from howitzers have just a tad better penetration values than the regular gun but their HE damage is double, sometimes triple that of regular guns.
HE from regular guns has very poor penetration and usually just about 150% the damage an AP round would do.
HE damage regardless of gun is severely reduced based on the armor surface it hits. Hitting a heavy tank with an M10's 76mm HE in the front for example will do a very small amount of damage (1% hp or less per shot)..but its better than bouncing off an AP round.
Thing with HE is that it can damage modules but you need to remember modules have HP themselves so if you hit an IS4 with an M10's 76mm HE in the front the driver will barely take damage because the armor absorbed almost all the damage. A howitzer on the other hand would do mediocre damage to the tanks HP and ok damage to the modules in the same scenario because its HE damage amount is much higher so more of it will seep through the armor.
Personally, the only time you should use HE in a regular gun is if your AP wont pierce the side armor. Only then would an HE round be of use as you can start pelting the engine, tracks and hope for an ammo strike or engine fire.
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It's about range, and target type.
HE for soft tanks, lights, arty..some mediums. "and for long range, if you have the option"
Ap for larger harder targets, at closer range, will often punch through a light or arty. "if you have that option"
Some guns that use both AP and HE are the harder guns to deal with, simply because you have that option to do more or less damage to a target depending on range,type and armor class.
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You need to be careful when you say 'HE damages about everything it hits' . While technically true there's a big difference between the HE Artillery rounds, the HE from howitzer guns and the HE from regular tank guns.
The HE from artillery has insanely high damage range and good penetration for an HE round. Plus the artillery tends to drop those rounds on the soft upper armor thats why they hurt so much.
HE from howitzers have just a tad better penetration values than the regular gun but their HE damage is double, sometimes triple that of regular guns.
HE from regular guns has very poor penetration and usually just about 150% the damage an AP round would do.
HE damage regardless of gun is severely reduced based on the armor surface it hits. Hitting a heavy tank with an M10's 76mm HE in the front for example will do a very small amount of damage (1% hp or less per shot)..but its better than bouncing off an AP round.
Thing with HE is that it can damage modules but you need to remember modules have HP themselves so if you hit an IS4 with an M10's 76mm HE in the front the driver will barely take damage because the armor absorbed almost all the damage. A howitzer on the other hand would do mediocre damage to the tanks HP and ok damage to the modules in the same scenario because its HE damage amount is much higher so more of it will seep through the armor.
Personally, the only time you should use HE in a regular gun is if your AP wont pierce the side armor. Only then would an HE round be of use as you can start pelting the engine, tracks and hope for an ammo strike or engine fire.
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He doesn't have to be careful. It is the complete truth. HE damages everything that it hits.
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To a degree.
HE rounds CAN bounce, but it is very unlikely. They would have to have a crazy angle going on.
ALSO
If they have spall liner, it is entirely possible for your HE to "hit" but do 0 damage (happens a lot when people fire at me on my Tiger II). :)
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HE damage regardless of gun is severely reduced based on the armor surface it hits. Hitting a heavy tank with an M10's 76mm HE in the front for example will do a very small amount of damage (1% hp or less per shot)..but its better than bouncing off an AP round.
incorrect. I've done 15+% damage to the front of a Tiger
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Not to interrupt the argument or anything, it's a lot of fun. EDO, and I have been playing about a week now and are enjoying it.
Have Fun
Vati
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I just got the Tiger1 and i don't know if I'll make it through this one the thing is so underpowered I can't even penetrate KV's half the time.
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Wait until you get the long 88 and the next to last engine. You'll be having fun at that point and it only gets better when you get a Tiger II (with the long 105 and upgraded turret which requires the tracks).
Tip: Keep the Tiger I when you get the Tiger II and use the Tiger I to grind the final engine and play the Tiger II to get the other upgrades (tracks first).
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I just got the Tiger1 and i don't know if I'll make it through this one the thing is so underpowered I can't even penetrate KV's half the time.
Ah, the Tiger I, the turd in the German punch bowl. At least it leads to the Tiger II, that's a good ride.
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I hear it's better with the long88 but I can't even kill a t29 unless hes awful and lets me shoot him in the butt 15 times with the short88
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I hear it's better with the long88 but I can't even kill a t29 unless hes awful and lets me shoot him in the butt 15 times with the short88
Shoot the T-29 in both "turret ears" and they are ammo racked. Then move around if possible and shoot him.
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Shoot the T-29 in both "turret ears" and they are ammo racked. Then move around if possible and shoot him.
ive gotten a ammo rack detonation near the big ugly lump that sticks out of the back of the turret. normally, if they have at least a 75% load of ammo that spot should detonate. especially if its loaded with HE.
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also, is it me, or do the grinds going down the russian tank lines go faster than the others? i seem to have the same the most XP gains with the t34. i can come into the game, get oblitterated and only detect 1 tank, then lose the round and have a good 250+ XP to research. i dont have premium, and im not going to buy gold because im not wasting my cash on some pixel gold just so i can get XP faster. so, me, or the game?
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Just an FYI, but the Flamewarriors clan won some real estate tonight. :rock
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Woot
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Just an FYI, but the Flamewarriors clan won some real estate tonight. :rock
:rofl A lot of naysayers didn't think it was possible, but we exceeded expectations. :devil
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Got myself a T25 At tonight too. :D
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Got myself a T25 At tonight too. :D
nice!
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Grats gents
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After grinding for over 6 hours yesterday I finally got up to a Hetzer.
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Well I finally got the 88mm for my VK 3601 (H). I dub it my Tiny Tiger but man it's a beast, I love blowing turrets off tanks twice it's size. I can't wait to platoon up with some of the guys later.
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Well I finally got the 88mm for my VK 3601 (H). I dub it my Tiny Tiger but man it's a beast, I love blowing turrets off tanks twice it's size. I can't wait to platoon up with some of the guys later.
as once owning a VK-3601(H) i can tell you right now its a BLAST! (no pun intended) you can easily take out a T29 with the 88mm from a safe distance. its kind of like having a more armored, more powerful SPG. if your lucky, you'll wander down yonder by a TD and one shot him and get him mad :devil
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After grinding for over 6 hours yesterday I finally got up to a Hetzer.
Have fun with the matchmaker. Those ISs and Tigers are gonna love ya. Just hope you can make it through to the StugIII and even then, you gotta grind for the L70 gun.
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Have fun with the matchmaker. Those ISs and Tigers are gonna love ya. Just hope you can make it through to the StugIII and even then, you gotta grind for the L70 gun.
StuG III was definately the most fun TD in the game. no doubt about it.
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Have fun with the matchmaker. Those ISs and Tigers are gonna love ya. Just hope you can make it through to the StugIII and even then, you gotta grind for the L70 gun.
Not worried. I was using my marder against tier 7-8 heavies last night with stoney74 and badkarma. Even got a few kills, mostly against T-40s and M-4E8s.
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Hmm, well when group up, the match making opens up even more. Normally, Marders don't go above Tier 5. And IIRC, the Marder's top gun is better than the Hetzer's top gun. Hetzers have to deal with Tier 7 tanks even in normal match making. Where they can't even scratch them unless you aim for the tracks, and even then there's little chance you'll track them.
Stugs, Marders, AT-1, and SU-100 are the best TDs IMO for fun factor. I can't say about American TDs because they were never there in beta. :(
Use the 105mm on the Hetzer at all times. That's how I got through it. Worst tank experience ever in the game.
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Hmm, well when group up, the match making opens up even more. Normally, Marders don't go above Tier 5. And IIRC, the Marder's top gun is better than the Hetzer's top gun. Hetzers have to deal with Tier 7 tanks even in normal match making. Where they can't even scratch them unless you aim for the tracks, and even then there's little chance you'll track them.
Stugs, Marders, AT-1, and SU-100 are the best TDs IMO for fun factor. I can't say about American TDs because they were never there in beta. :(
Use the 105mm on the Hetzer at all times. That's how I got through it. Worst tank experience ever in the game.
It will have to do some work to overtake the torture that is the Luchs that I'm grinding atm. Thankfully just need the exp to open the Leopard and then credits to buy it.
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It will have to do some work to overtake the torture that is the Luchs that I'm grinding atm. Thankfully just need the exp to open the Leopard and then credits to buy it.
I was in a couple of Battles that you were in the other night when I was running my BT-2 and you were doing quite well, you do have to laugh at some of the tards in the low tier battles, definately a candidate for a Yakitty Sax soundtrack.
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Actually killed a Hetzer in that POS last night. He was parked next to a tree in some bushes and I rammed him in the side, pinned him, and fired about 120 shots into his turret to kill him.
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:headscratch: Hetzer doesn't have a turret....
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:headscratch: Hetzer doesn't have a turret....
it kinda does...if you look at it right. i guess.
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cannon housing then...not technically a turret since it doesn't turn...but you knew what I meant.
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:D
Just being Captain Obvious for the moment. :lol
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Thank you...but thanks my job.
:noid
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I had to delete WoT and run Microsoft security to remove a Trojan I got while playing that game. Win32/Winwebsec was the file name. I will not go back. :bhead
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Ive heard some very bad things about the WoT staff.
One of my clan members on WoT sent one of the staff members a msg. Asking them why were they working on another entirely new game when there is still so many bugs in WoT?
The staff member responded telling him to get the "f" over it and leave their game if he doesn't like how they run it.
Many people have stoped playing the game due to how the staff treats people :uhoh
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its like Navy Field - fun for awhile, then the grind takes over and you play to get some ship or tank - then once you get there you realize the game has little to offer but the grind and maby some friends who are in the same rut.
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One of my clan members on WoT sent one of the staff members a msg. Asking them why were they working on another entirely new game when there is still so many bugs in WoT?
The staff member responded telling him to get the "f" over it and leave their game if he doesn't like how they run it.
Try that in Aces High, you'll get the same reaction and rightly so.
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Try that in Aces High, you'll get the same reaction and rightly so.
Sorry Del, but the way this read makes it sound like WE at HTC would respond like that. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! First off, I would get fired for responding to a customer like that. Secondly, I like to think I have more class than to respond like that. Thirdly, it does not make any sense to tell a customer that. And last, but not least, it is just damn impolite.
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One of my clan members on WoT sent one of the staff members a msg. Asking them why were they working on another entirely new game when there is still so many bugs in WoT?
The staff member responded telling him to get the "f" over it and leave their game if he doesn't like how they run it.
Many people have stoped playing the game due to how the staff treats people :uhoh
My guess, I bet its crunch time over there and they are stressed out, sleeping under their desks.
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My clanmate had a right to ask them the question. They had promised many of the bugs(most importantly, the spotting system bug) would be fixed by release date. then release came in April, and NOTHING was fixed.
Fast forward 6 months later, and really we still got the same bugs as there was in the beta, including the horrible spotting system. They keep promising to fix them with every next patch. but never do.
So customers like us, who show support for their game, and some who have even put $$$ into it, are wondering why the hell they were creating an entirely new game, when they Still Havent fixed the things they promised us would be fixed by day 1?
The devs have no right to lash out at the players who question them. It was THEM who made the promises. and THEM who are not keeping to it, and wasting the players time and $$$.
Like i said, theyve lashed out at many players, and many have left the game due to it.
Im sorry delirium, But i dont see that being "rightly" at all.
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My clanmate had a right to ask them the question. They had promised many of the bugs(most importantly, the spotting system bug) would be fixed by release date. then release came in April, and NOTHING was fixed.
Fast forward 6 months later, and really we still got the same bugs as there was in the beta, including the horrible spotting system. They keep promising to fix them with every next patch. but never do.
So customers like us, who show support for their game, and some who have even put $$$ into it, are wondering why the hell they were creating an entirely new game, when they Still Havent fixed the things they promised us would be fixed by day 1?
The devs have no right to lash out at the players who question them. It was THEM who made the promises. and THEM who are not keeping to it, and wasting the players time and $$$.
Like i said, theyve lashed out at many players, and many have left the game due to it.
Im sorry delirium, But i dont see that being "rightly" at all.
This is exactly why we (HTC) will never answer "When" questions.
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They also dont seem to like other game's in the same WW2 genre as them mentioned on their forums.
Ive seen some posts that have been deleted simply because they mention another game.
Had a friend who made a Homefront topic asking if anyone played it or would like to squad up with him on there, it got modded.
dont know if this person goes on the forums or not here, But someone made a topic asking to have the ability to create custom skins for the tanks. In their topic, they mentioned how AH allowed its players to design skins.
It got modded too.
From the posts it doesnt look like their breaking any common rules (cussing/nudity/etc). im just really glad HTC arent like them :uhoh
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WOT is designed around folks paying for upgrades. That means the upgrades are all that is important. Fixing game issues like bugs are back burner. The money is in the more is better side of things to sell.
At least this is what I get from what folks post here.
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At least this is what I get from what folks post here.
Not my impression at all.
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Not my impression at all.
Agreed stoney.
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This is exactly why we (HTC) will never answer "When" questions.
Two weeks! :D
:lol
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If wargaming would stop droping the ball and fix the broken american heavy tree the game would take on a whole new meaning.
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My question, before I go to the trouble of the WoT download and install, and trying to learn a new game, is this: Is this game designed 1st person or 3rd person? i.e. do you ride on and sit in, and fire from inside the tank, like in AH, or is it a 3rd person "arcade style" shooter where you see the game from outside, above and behind your tank, in a GV "F3 mode" sense? All of the screen shots I've seen on their page appear "F3 mode" - but maybe that's just the way the person wanted to show it and not how the game actually appears as you play it.....
If it's 1st person like GVing in AH, I'm game....... but arcade style, I won't even waste the download time....
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My question, before I go to the trouble of the WoT download and install, and trying to learn a new game, is this: Is this game designed 1st person or 3rd person? i.e. do you ride on and sit in, and fire from inside the tank, like in AH, or is it a 3rd person "arcade style" shooter where you see the game from outside, above and behind your tank, in a GV "F3 mode" sense? All of the screen shots I've seen on their page appear "F3 mode" - but maybe that's just the way the person wanted to show it and not how the game actually appears as you play it.....
If it's 1st person like GVing in AH, I'm game....... but arcade style, I won't even waste the download time....
its 90% 3rd person mode. once you go to max zoom your in the gunners spot, but those are all the same when it comes to gunsights.
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My question, before I go to the trouble of the WoT download and install, and trying to learn a new game, is this: Is this game designed 1st person or 3rd person? i.e. do you ride on and sit in, and fire from inside the tank, like in AH, or is it a 3rd person "arcade style" shooter where you see the game from outside, above and behind your tank, in a GV "F3 mode" sense? All of the screen shots I've seen on their page appear "F3 mode" - but maybe that's just the way the person wanted to show it and not how the game actually appears as you play it.....
If it's 1st person like GVing in AH, I'm game....... but arcade style, I won't even waste the download time....
To be honest it's somewhat arcadeish, however, that's what makes it fun. Since you can download and play for free I would highly recommend trying it, if you don't like it you haven't lost anything accept the time to install.
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Sorry Del, but the way this read makes it sound like WE at HTC would respond like that. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! First off, I would get fired for responding to a customer like that. Secondly, I like to think I have more class than to respond like that. Thirdly, it does not make any sense to tell a customer that. And last, but not least, it is just damn impolite.
Thank you Skuzzy. I have never been told anything near "Go F.O.!" if I didn't like it. No self respecting businessman would ever treat a client like that for making a comment. I would quickly copy & paste & put it everywhere I could, "& rightly so....." :salute not answering is a far cry from cussing someone out, & don't give people excuses to abuse others. We've all had bad days and didn't go postal on anyone, so they need to "Buck-Up!" :old:
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its 90% 3rd person mode. once you go to max zoom your in the gunners spot, but those are all the same when it comes to gunsights.
:huh
no thanks.
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:huh
no thanks.
Just look at some of the videos on youtube.
The good ol' saying: "Don't judge a book by it's cover.", comes into play. You have to remember that you're not sniping some poor guy who is trying to spawn at 1.5K out.
HTC got some of their GV ideas from WoT.
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Ive heard some very bad things about the WoT staff.
One of my clan members on WoT sent one of the staff members a msg. Asking them why were they working on another entirely new game when there is still so many bugs in WoT?
The staff member responded telling him to get the "f" over it and leave their game if he doesn't like how they run it.
Many people have stoped playing the game due to how the staff treats people :uhoh
sounds like BS to me trannis. screenshot or it didnt happen. lol
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
Does it really matter? Aces High is a high quality game. WoT is a high quality game. Both offer different things. Some may like both, some may prefer one or the other, and some neither. Its not about "superior to" for either. I personally don't really look at the two games as competitors, as in my mind, they serve different markets. If you want to play the ultimate WWII air-combat game, its Aces High, hands down. If you want to go play some tank-based rock, paper, scissors, for up for 15 minutes at a time, play WoT. We would all scream at HTC if they modeled their tanks the way WoT does, because HTC has tried to make their game reflect a high degree of fidelity with real life tanks that fought in WWII. WoT is just a game, using tanks, that sort of reflect both real and imagined WWII era tanks, and provide a shoot-em-up type game showcasing the same. Even when World of Planes arrives, I'll probably try it just to see. I'd never expect it, based on my WoT experience, to equal the air combat experience of AH. But, it might be a fun way to spend an hour or two a night. Apples and oranges in my opinion...
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Does it really matter? If you want to go play some tank-based rock, paper, scissors, for up for 15 minutes at a time, play WoT.
perhaps. I have found that I enjoy WoT so much more in so many respects that my time between the two games is running about 98% to 2%. The more I find myself enjoying WoT the more I find myself saying "Gee, I sure wish AH would look at doing things more along these lines.....sort of like they have already done with the basic functioning of the GVs but in a more more comprehensive way. but hey, thats just me. And based on my time in AH over the past few years I would say Im not the only one who feels this way.
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Just look at some of the videos on youtube.
The good ol' saying: "Don't judge a book by it's cover.", comes into play. You have to remember that you're not sniping some poor guy who is trying to spawn at 1.5K out.
HTC got some of their GV ideas from WoT.
Yeah, I noticed the A,S,W,D controls. I have to say it felt nice to hit terrain objects, and watch them flip over and not me. :rolleyes: I just joined last night, so I'm playing in my hoopties.
Totally arcade but fun and addictive. Very repetitive play and I'm not diggin the gold/ pay me money thing. Ingame- Crazyivan same as here. No clue about tank companies/clans but would be cool to join other Aces Highers.
:salute
CRAZY
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Yeah, I noticed the A,S,W,D controls. I have to say it felt nice to hit terrain objects, and watch them flip over and not me. :rolleyes: I just joined last night, so I'm playing in my hoopties.
Totally arcade but fun and addictive. Very repetitive play and I'm not diggin the gold/ pay me money thing. Ingame- Crazyivan same as here. No clue about tank companies/clans but would be cool to join other Aces Highers.
:salute
CRAZY
Crazy that game becomes even more fun when you start platooning up. The last few nights Stoney, BadKarama, and myself have been grouping up and owning the enemy. It's a lot of fun and can be very rewarding. Look up Bodhi or PM him here, we can get you in.
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Decided to get on and play a few rounds tonight. and the matchmaking still SUCKS
Putting tier 1 tanks in matches against tier 6. and tier 4's against tier 7-8's.
:rolleyes:
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Decided to get on and play a few rounds tonight. and the matchmaking still SUCKS
Putting tier 1 tanks in matches against tier 6. and tier 4's against tier 7-8's.
:rolleyes:
they said they'd work that out after it went live.
they never did, and never will
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Decided to get on and play a few rounds tonight. and the matchmaking still SUCKS
Putting tier 1 tanks in matches against tier 6. and tier 4's against tier 7-8's.
:rolleyes:
Unless the Tier 1 is platooned with someone that is a tier 5 or higher you will never see a T1 in a random battle with T6's. The highest tank a T1 will ever face might be a T3 but that's rare.
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Unless the Tier 1 is platooned with someone that is a tier 5 or higher you will never see a T1 in a random battle with T6's. The highest tank a T1 will ever face might be a T3 but that's rare.
its a bug. I was in the first american TD(dont remember its name).
Got put into a match with shermans/panthers.
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its a bug. I was in the first american TD(dont remember its name).
Got put into a match with shermans/panthers.
T18? i doubt any bug would put you with those kinds of tanks. until you get to the T40 your not getting into anything higher than tier 5.
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I still have my BT-2 tier 2 russian tank and it never comes up against anything higher than tier 3. Ever.
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I still have my BT-2 tier 2 russian tank and it never comes up against anything higher than tier 3. Ever.
i kept my T-1 just in case :lol ive never gotten paired up with more than a Pz-35T.
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I can tell you right now that a Tier 1 will NOT - for ANY reason (other than platooning) - EVER, EVER be put in a battle OVER Tier 2.
Tier 1 & 2 are strictly that. They do not get the normal match making that other tanks do.
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As for the match making, you guys have to realize that our numbers don't match the EU server at all. MM coding is built to have enough people to fill in those spots without snatching a tier 4 into a tier 8 battle.
Does it get frustrating? When you're first starting off: Yes.
In the end, it just makes you a better "Tanker".
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I can tell you right now that a Tier 1 will NOT - for ANY reason (other than platooning) - EVER, EVER be put in a battle OVER Tier 2.
Tier 1 & 2 are strictly that. They do not get the normal match making that other tanks do.
Glad they finally fixed that.
ack-ack
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I actually downloaded it :rofl
all the tanks disappeared when I spawned into the battle :headscratch:
Im guessing my older duel quad 2.9 GHZ ...and 4830 1 gig card....4 gigs of ram.....is just not good enough for the eye candy. :frown:
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Ink,
EDO, Element18 (my Son), and I had the same issue as you. Log out of the game and restart. We never had that issue again. Don't know why but it is strange to see the markers but no tanks.
Vati
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Ink,
EDO, Element18 (my Son), and I had the same issue as you. Log out of the game and restart. We never had that issue again. Don't know why but it is strange to see the markers but no tanks.
Vati
haha once I saw that I didn't go back in game....Ill have to try again..thanx :salute
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I actually downloaded it :rofl
all the tanks disappeared when I spawned into the battle :headscratch:
Im guessing my older duel quad 2.9 GHZ ...and 4830 1 gig card....4 gigs of ram.....is just not good enough for the eye candy. :frown:
core 2 quad 9550 2.8ghz/ati 5850 1gig/4 gig ram
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core 2 quad 9550 2.8ghz/ati 5850 1gig/4 gig ram
I just realized I typed that out wrong....not a duel quad....it's a duel core :o
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Well the tanks dissapear when they sit still especially in bushes/ it's a lame camo arcade thing. But the games still fun when your winning and it's a nice break from AH.
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Well the tanks dissapear when they sit still especially in bushes/ it's a lame camo arcade thing. But the games still fun when your winning and it's a nice break from AH.
Yes, and when a tank is using the +25% camo module, and the crew is rated at 100% overall experience and receives the additional specialty slot filled %100 camo experience, a tank goes into stealth mode rather quickly, and can sneak up and fire on you in camo mode from short distances.
There are a lot of flaws with WoT that is for sure, and this is one of the big ones imo. I hated it at first but managed to get past it because I was enjoying myself so much. Today I know all about the camo feature and use it to my advantage.
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Well the tanks dissapear when they sit still especially in bushes/ it's a lame camo arcade thing. But the games still fun when your winning and it's a nice break from AH.
+1
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Yes, and when a tank is using the +25% camo module, and the crew is rated at 100% overall experience and receives the additional specialty slot filled %100 camo experience, a tank goes into stealth mode rather quickly, and can sneak up and fire on you in camo mode from short distances.
There are a lot of flaws with WoT that is for sure, and this is one of the big ones imo. I hated it at first but managed to get past it because I was enjoying myself so much. Today I know all about the camo feature and use it to my advantage.
I've noticed in a lot of the tanks in game (at least the ones I've played with regularly) you can usually use players camo against them- ie, if they disappear from your view, 'troll' them a bit and they usually pop right back up. Send a shot toward where you think they are or have a buddy in artillery send a shot in that direction. Most players, no matter how well hidden they are, will think they're spotted, panic, and high tail it to 'better' cover- in the meantime, you can usually spot them and get in a good shot or two while they run away. I've used that trick to flush out a lot of lights and mediums, and then either pop them in the open or track them for others to finish off. Doesn't work so well against the heavier stuff, but that depends on the player too. A lot of the heavy tank and TD snipers are paranoid about losing credits in their high-tier behemoths and will fall back if they start taking too much damage.
Then there's always the time-honored 'have a buddy hold their attention while you get behind them' method. Usually not conducive to long-lived buddies, but works pretty well, especially if you have the gun to take out their engine or light them on fire with the first shot or two.
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BTW, here's the three films I made of WoT when I was playing as 2Dragoon- first two from Beta, last one is after it went live.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQpUGeCeFGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8z8Aoz2QqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIFM--G-Gb8
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Hi
I created an AcesHigh channel. Met a few AH's in there.
Since I can't delete it, feel free to join in.
:uhoh
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BTW, here's the three films I made of WoT when I was playing as 2Dragoon- first two from Beta, last one is after it went live.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQpUGeCeFGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8z8Aoz2QqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIFM--G-Gb8
cool vids, lol it boggles my mind how come AH ground game is like 20 years behind, see that 40 ton tank hits a tree, tree falls over. see that small shrub oh lookie we went right through it instead of being flipped over :eek:
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cool vids, lol it boggles my mind how come AH ground game is like 20 years behind, see that 40 ton tank hits a tree, tree falls over. see that small shrub oh lookie we went right through it instead of being flipped over :eek:
Not behind..... just secondary to the game of ACES HIGH. :)
WOT doesn't even have one plane.
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Not behind..... just secondary to the game of ACES HIGH. :)
WOT doesn't even have one plane.
well with a name like world of tanks i wouldn't expect planes, but this game just isn't about planes either anymore, it's evolving with more and more ground vehicles so should the terrain. the way the physics of the Ground vehicles interact with the terrain is laughable at times, tanks getting turned over by a shrub? lol really , a tree branch hanging over a road stops a tank in its tracks lol ummm ok , 40 ton tank comes down a hill and stops instantly at the bottom , i dunno Ive operated just about every piece of heavy equipment out there and the physic's of these Heavy GV's are not even close to RL, but i understand this is a game and theres so much one can do but honesty more can be done with the terrain to be alittle more realistic like alot of the other games I've seen. crap I'd pay 20 a month instead of 14.99 for a more realistic terrain if whats needed .
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The last time I was killed in my tank by a bomb**** was my last moment in AH. I canceld my account and left. Too long between good tank battles and then when you get a good tank battle the tards ruin it.
Decided to give WoT a try even after reading all the bad stuff about it. Sure, it has it's arcade moments/features, but damn, I am having a blast! Good tank battles all day long and no bomb****s to worry about.
My biggest gripe with the game is the vision system. You can hit a tank 1,000 yards away across an fairly flat and relatively open area and then it just disappears. You sit there watching for it to re-appear somewhere and the next thing you know it's 20 yards behind you blasting your bellybutton off. Ugh. But I have gotten used to that and have learned enough to start using it to my own advantage plus how to avoid more of the disadvantages of the system.
All in all it's a very good game that provides a steady stream of as realistic as I care about tank battles to keep me satisfied.
While it is free to play, the lower tier tanks are quite painful to get through without buying gold to speed the process. It appears that once you get a few tier 6-7 vehicles to work with you probably can play effectively for free.
Zed
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well with a name like world of tanks i wouldn't expect planes, but this game just isn't about planes either anymore, it's evolving with more and more
But but but it's called Aces High. If Aces high has planes, tanks, ships, other vehicles, and is evolving.......... how can a game with only tanks and no planes or ships be ahead.
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The last time I was killed in my tank by a bomb**** was my last moment in AH. I canceld my account and left. Too long between good tank battles and then when you get a good tank battle the tards ruin it.
Decided to give WoT a try even after reading all the bad stuff about it. Sure, it has it's arcade moments/features, but damn, I am having a blast! Good tank battles all day long and no bomb****s to worry about.
My biggest gripe with the game is the vision system. You can hit a tank 1,000 yards away across an fairly flat and relatively open area and then it just disappears. You sit there watching for it to re-appear somewhere and the next thing you know it's 20 yards behind you blasting your bellybutton off. Ugh. But I have gotten used to that and have learned enough to start using it to my own advantage plus how to avoid more of the disadvantages of the system.
All in all it's a very good game that provides a steady stream of as realistic as I care about tank battles to keep me satisfied.
While it is free to play, the lower tier tanks are quite painful to get through without buying gold to speed the process. It appears that once you get a few tier 6-7 vehicles to work with you probably can play effectively for free.
Zed
Blaming a game called Aces High for your short comings is counter productive. Get to the root of the actual problem and you'll live a more improved life.
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But but but it's called Aces High. If Aces high has planes, tanks, ships, other vehicles, and is evolving.......... how can a game with only tanks and no planes or ships be ahead.
Never said World of Tanks is ahead of Aces High, terrain wise yes. WoT= Arcade Tank Game. AH= Combat Simulation Game. i don't play WoT anymore simply because it's to arcade for me (tank play in general) not because of the map terrain, been playing AH for over 8 years because i love flight and WWII history Air, Land and Sea that's why i still Play, just wish the Terrain had more real world physic's like other games do, in time I'm sure we will.
As far as terrain wise WOT is years ahead of what we have here, trees that fall over when hit, fences, buildings ect anything that shouldn't stop a Tank won't stop one.
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Never said World of Tanks is ahead of Aces High, terrain wise yes. WoT= Arcade Tank Game. AH= Combat Simulation Game. i don't play WoT anymore simply because it's to arcade for me (tank play in general) not because of the map terrain, been playing AH for over 8 years because i love flight and WWII history Air, Land and Sea that's why i still Play, just wish the Terrain had more real world physic's like other games do, in time I'm sure we will.
As far as terrain wise WOT is years ahead of what we have here, trees that fall over when hit, fences, buildings ect anything that shouldn't stop a Tank won't stop one.
Terrain is fine for flight. :)
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Lets not forget buildings you can damage and DRIVE THROUGH! I love driving through small buildings and shooting at tanks hiding on the other side. It makes it even funnier when you shout OH YEAH!!! as you do it.
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It makes it even funnier when you shout OH YEAH!!! as you do it.
the first time i realized i could drive through buildings i said that to myself as i kicked a panzer in the butt!!! :rofl
what i wouldnt give to have the other guy hear that! :lol
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is there any faster way to gain xp and credits other than do random battles? mind you im not paying money to buy gold so im wondering if clan battles or anything else of the sort offers better xp/$$ gain.
Currently on the t29 trying to grind to the t34 (and t30 if i can) before they get switched to premium/TD line.
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is there any faster way to gain xp and credits other than do random battles? mind you im not paying money to buy gold so im wondering if clan battles or anything else of the sort offers better xp/$$ gain.
Currently on the t29 trying to grind to the t34 (and t30 if i can) before they get switched to premium/TD line.
platoon up man. i think if you win, your platoon gets 1/2 of the credits/exp. from the other team. well, not sure if its platoons or tank companies.
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platoon up man. i think if you win, your platoon gets 1/2 of the credits/exp. from the other team. well, not sure if its platoons or tank companies.
Tank Companies and Clan Wars have a 50% of all XP earned by losing team transfer to the winning team.
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is there any faster way to gain xp and credits other than do random battles? mind you im not paying money to buy gold so im wondering if clan battles or anything else of the sort offers better xp/$$ gain.
Currently on the t29 trying to grind to the t34 (and t30 if i can) before they get switched to premium/TD line.
You're gonna need Tier 9/10 tanks for Clan Wars...
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You're gonna need Tier 9/10 tanks for Clan Wars...
Yep.
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Yep.
agreed but I have had a little success in my IS-3 in clan wars.
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The last time I was killed in my tank by a bomb**** was my last moment in AH. I canceld my account and left. Too long between good tank battles and then when you get a good tank battle the tards ruin it.
Decided to give WoT a try even after reading all the bad stuff about it. Sure, it has it's arcade moments/features, but damn, I am having a blast! Good tank battles all day long and no bomb****s to worry about.
My biggest gripe with the game is the vision system. You can hit a tank 1,000 yards away across an fairly flat and relatively open area and then it just disappears. You sit there watching for it to re-appear somewhere and the next thing you know it's 20 yards behind you blasting your bellybutton off. Ugh. But I have gotten used to that and have learned enough to start using it to my own advantage plus how to avoid more of the disadvantages of the system.
All in all it's a very good game that provides a steady stream of as realistic as I care about tank battles to keep me satisfied.
While it is free to play, the lower tier tanks are quite painful to get through without buying gold to speed the process. It appears that once you get a few tier 6-7 vehicles to work with you probably can play effectively for free.
Zed
once you get your crew up to 100% training then get them the camouflage skill and also buy the camouflage net. then your tank will disappear right in the middle of the road. then when you get tired of seeing that stupid trick then you will realize that it's not really any different that being bomb. getting killed by tanks that appear 100 yards in front of you is so fricking stupid.
semp
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Tank Companies and Clan Wars have a 50% of all XP earned by losing team transfer to the winning team.
So any aces high, WoT tank companies/platoons recruiting?
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I deleted WoT, just dont like the GV game.
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So any aces high, WoT tank companies/platoons recruiting?
PM Bodhi or
http://flamewarriors.enjin.com/home
plenty of AH players there
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Just started playing this past weekend. Having lots of fun, just got a Panzer III fully upgraded, looking at heading up the Panther route. Although everyone else seems to go the heavy route, do the high level Panthers not do as well?
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Just started playing this past weekend. Having lots of fun, just got a Panzer III fully upgraded, looking at heading up the Panther route. Although everyone else seems to go the heavy route, do the high level Panthers not do as well?
Go a Heavy Tank route. E-50 is a dead end......
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Just started playing this past weekend. Having lots of fun, just got a Panzer III fully upgraded, looking at heading up the Panther route. Although everyone else seems to go the heavy route, do the high level Panthers not do as well?
The end-game play in WoT focuses on the use of heavy tanks, with some exceptions. The Clan War battles use 15 tanks to a side, and probably 11-12 of them will be heavies, supported by arty, which makes up the balance. Usually there's only one medium or so. What I'd recommend, having concentrated almost exclusively on tank destroyers at first, is start with the tanks that offer you the most flexibility as you train up. The tree you're in right now is a good one for that. Once you get up to the Pzr III/IV, you can move laterally into the E-100 tree, the arty tree, or continue along the medium tree, so you're in a good position for the future.
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Just started playing this past weekend. Having lots of fun, just got a Panzer III fully upgraded, looking at heading up the Panther route. Although everyone else seems to go the heavy route, do the high level Panthers not do as well?
Most people want the biggest baddest heaviest hitting beast they can get....it's compensation. Personally I'd say go the route you have most fun with first then work on other lines if you need the tanks for clan wars, or get bored with that particular tank.
When it went live I started back down the same lines I did in beta because the end result was what I had fun in. I got the Jagdtiger and then Maus for Clan Wars, and recently got a T95. I have the most fun in the T95 and thus it's what I use the most. When I get tired of it I start working on my other lines, but in the end the T95 is what is fun so it's what I use.
Slowly working down the E-50, T30, Patton, E-100 and Obj 704 lines. Got: Panther (for E-50), T32 (for T30), T20 (for Patton), Tiger II (for E-100) and Su-100 (for Obj 704). :D
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I cant leave my bt2 alone. such easy kills in it, I have the bt7 but for some reason I dont get 1/2 the kills even with same gun and more armor.
semp
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I cant leave my bt2 alone. such easy kills in it, I have the bt7 but for some reason I dont get 1/2 the kills even with same gun and more armor.
semp
I have always had a BT=2 its the most fun, check out Sideys BT-2 film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50cQu2ekJz8
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It is all a matter of personal taste.
Mediums get a good gun and great speed with a loss in armor, so if you like to be able to get from cover to cover and flank your enemies - this is a great route for you.
If you just want to slug it out and be a huge artillery magnet, then try the heavy route.
If you like to sit back and snipe, then try going TD or artillery. Artillery has a LONG load and aim time and can be a pain in the high tiers (1.5 rounds per minute) and it's mostly luck.
If you want to zoom around and just have fun you could try grabbing a T-50. You have a LOT of speed vs little armor and not too big of a gun. You won't do much damage, but your goal isn't to kill the enemy. It's to piss them off and zoom around, keeping them visible for your team and your arty.
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Just started playing this past weekend. Having lots of fun, just got a Panzer III fully upgraded, looking at heading up the Panther route. Although everyone else seems to go the heavy route, do the high level Panthers not do as well?
Depends on play style. I see Panthers and Panther II's just tearing up some battles. One or 2-shot someone. Run and hide. Repeat. You do need the top gun for that of course.
I too am going the heavy route but I picked a path where I can go back and get the Panthers as well later on.
Zed
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It's a game.
Do what you enjoy doin ;)
The draw for me is simple to play, tuff to master small unit tactics. Fun to see just how much you can do in tank of choice.
When I run my heavies I run them as assault tanks if I am in top team rank. If not I try to flank and chew on enemies while they are busy.
Mediums I always try and flank and wait till enemy is busy before engaging.
Same with TD's .. 'best used from ambush' .. words to live by.
Lights are just a blast. Race ya to the Flag! -evil grin-
As Nobaddy has taught me, usually a good idea to take a long route or wait a minute before charging with a light,
..gives enemy a chance to disperse and its easier to find a lane thru their advance.
Arty is like droppin bombs. When I dont feel like runnin around with my bellybutton on fire, I run an arty :)
-Frank aka GE (1Grayeagle in WoT, usually claiming the honor of first to die for my team :)
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cool vids, lol it boggles my mind how come AH ground game is like 20 years behind, see that 40 ton tank hits a tree, tree falls over. see that small shrub oh lookie we went right through it instead of being flipped over :eek:
If people like you would use your brain for a minute, you would understand why it is unrealistic to expect the terrain in AH, where maps are HUNDREDS OF MILES ACROSS, with HUNDREDS OF PLAYERS IN THE ARENA could be as intricately detailed as a WoT map that covers one square mile with at most 30 players in the map.
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I cant leave my bt2 alone. such easy kills in it, I have the bt7 but for some reason I dont get 1/2 the kills even with same gun and more armor.
semp
HA! someone with crappier tanks than me. :t I just got up to a T28 go me.
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HA! someone with crappier tanks than me. :t I just got up to a T28 go me.
T-28 medium or T-28 TD? there both fun, had the T-28 medium for a while. got my KV then just kinda quit on it for a while. the T-28 TD is fun, but it seems like my driver wants to catch every 120mm shell that comes my way.
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HA! someone with crappier tanks than me. :t I just got up to a T28 go me.
ha my crappy bt2 kills more higher tier tanks than my better bt7 :). I call it bs, but i still enjoy it lol.
semp
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ha my crappy bt2 kills more higher tier tanks than my better bt7 :). I call it bs, but i still enjoy it lol.
semp
I hated the BT-7 but haven't had one since Beta. Next good tank after the BT-2 is the T-34 with the 57mm, used correctly its a killer.
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Go a Heavy Tank route. E-50 is a dead end......
E-50 is a very fun tank. The only reason to ignore the medium lines is if you are planning on participating in Clan Wars.
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If people like you would use your brain for a minute, you would understand why it is unrealistic to expect the terrain in AH, where maps are HUNDREDS OF MILES ACROSS, with HUNDREDS OF PLAYERS IN THE ARENA could be as intricately detailed as a WoT map that covers one square mile with at most 30 players in the map.
I think what he is talking about is the terrain features stopping tanks, features that shouldn't. A tree branch should not stop a 40 ton tank, or even a 10 ton scout. Neither should a bush or a rock flip a tank. Those things don't happen in WoT. In fact, the tank destroys trees and buildings, and rightfully so.
If you reread what you quoted, I think you'll agree that he's not asking for the maps to be as intricately detailed as those in WoT.
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I think what he is talking about is the terrain features stopping tanks, features that shouldn't. A tree branch should not stop a 40 ton tank, or even a 10 ton scout. Neither should a bush or a rock flip a tank. Those things don't happen in WoT. In fact, the tank destroys trees and buildings, and rightfully so.
If you reread what you quoted, I think you'll agree that he's not asking for the maps to be as intricately detailed as those in WoT.
While tanks are in AH, I think GVs are a side note. The Planes are the main feature. Over time maybe more will be done concerning the ground.
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I just got my pzrIII/IV and feel like it is the first tank that can actually penetrate the enemy's armor... Although if by some chance the matchmaker put my pzr III in the top tier of the battle, I would easily get 5 kills. Sent Bodhi a PM about playing with some AH players.
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I love a good BT2 run..fully pimped, camo net and toolbox...such fun after a slugfest in the big tanks,
also got a su85 all pimped great fun,
can get up to 7 kills in a match in them ...its a lot of fun.
t34-85 is the bigest tank I have at the mo, su 100 almost done the grind,
the little ones can be a laugh though
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While tanks are in AH, I think GVs are a side note. The Planes are the main feature. Over time maybe more will be done concerning the ground.
Of course they are. :)
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I love a good BT2 run..fully pimped, camo net and toolbox...such fun after a slugfest in the big tanks,
also got a su85 all pimped great fun,
can get up to 7 kills in a match in them ...its a lot of fun.
t34-85 is the bigest tank I have at the mo, su 100 almost done the grind,
the little ones can be a laugh though
Just wait till the slugfest is IS7 vs Maus, Object 704 vs JagdTiger :)
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Of course they are. :)
I would also like to say that I think the ground is over modeled. It's hard on my 38.
You tanker fellas need to watch what you wish for...... if you can run over trees then you should have to go around bogs. :D
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well i finally got my finger out of my nose for a while and decided to grind on the M3 Lee for a bit, even though people say the T1 heavy sucks, i have to say that I've done some pretty amazing stuff against tigers and KV-13's. Its not a bad tank if you can learn to use it correctly. most people think "oh its a heavy, it can take anything" and charge in like an idiot. you need to wait for the suicide scout M3 stuarts and such to get in and find the tanks and then find a way around them. but if you really want a good T1hv then get the upgraded suspension, engine, gun, turret and maybe a camo net. i never bought premium for this account, never will, but its a good credit maker, i average about 15k credits and 400xp per round if i win/draw. losses are about 7k and 200xp.
ok, rambling on about my T1hv is now over. :old:
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I would also like to say that I think the ground is over modeled. It's hard on my 38.
You tanker fellas need to watch what you wish for...... if you can run over trees then you should have to go around bogs. :D
I was never much of a tanker in AH. :-)
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well i finally got my finger out of my nose for a while and decided to grind on the M3 Lee for a bit, even though people say the T1 heavy sucks, i have to say that I've done some pretty amazing stuff against tigers and KV-13's. Its not a bad tank if you can learn to use it correctly. most people think "oh its a heavy, it can take anything" and charge in like an idiot. you need to wait for the suicide scout M3 stuarts and such to get in and find the tanks and then find a way around them. but if you really want a good T1hv then get the upgraded suspension, engine, gun, turret and maybe a camo net. i never bought premium for this account, never will, but its a good credit maker, i average about 15k credits and 400xp per round if i win/draw. losses are about 7k and 200xp.
ok, rambling on about my T1hv is now over. :old:
If I didn't get stuck in a high tier battle, I really enjoyed my T1 heavy. I think its a good tank against comparable vehicles. Of course, I'm also someone that liked the M3 Lee in the same situation.
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If I didn't get stuck in a high tier battle, I really enjoyed my T1 heavy. I think its a good tank against comparable vehicles. Of course, I'm also someone that liked the M3 Lee in the same situation.
its good until you have to fight tiger 2's and T-29's. i can still penetrate the frontal armor of a tiger (well placed shot in the drivers seat though) given the chance. KV's with the 107 are really just annoying little buggers...if they have the 76 then im fine :lol but ive had too many close calls with kv's and their cursed 107. the armor seems to be easily penetrable from 300m out, i guess the upgraded gun is for sniping?
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hmmm,seems like the right time to feed my pershing...its hungry
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its good until you have to fight tiger 2's and T-29's. i can still penetrate the frontal armor of a tiger (well placed shot in the drivers seat though) given the chance. KV's with the 107 are really just annoying little buggers...if they have the 76 then im fine :lol but ive had too many close calls with kv's and their cursed 107. the armor seems to be easily penetrable from 300m out, i guess the upgraded gun is for sniping?
If you're in a fight with King Tigers and T29s, you're fighting uphill against higher tier tanks, like I described. If you're fighting KVs, keep the front of the tank pointed at them, and use that rapid fire 76mm to either HE or AP spam them to death. I shot a lot of HE in my T1, and with a rapid fire gun, you can crit them so bad that they are rendered ineffective very quickly. One match in my T28, I was actually killed by a pair of EZ8s just HE spamming me from a hull down spot. I had just a fraction of their turret visible to me, I couldn't get any arty help, and even though they were only chipping 60 pts of damage off of me a shot, they killed about half my crew and critically damaged the gun, view ports, tracks, etc. Spam that turret as much as possible. Just don't trade licks with them.
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Spam that turret as much as possible. Just don't trade licks with them.
:lol thats what i do in my hetzer against T1's. sometimes i'll use my leopard and purposely hide behind a heavy tank and pop at its turret.
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What's the name of the clan that has all the AH members? I know my clan (with Chewie :D ) would like to ally up with you guys for Clan Wars.
:salute
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[-FW-]
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Rgr! Ty.
[IL] is where I'm based.
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im in [CC]
some think it stanks for cool clan...
...its really the crackhead clan :lol my clan leader is an odd guy.
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What's the name of the clan that has all the AH members? I know my clan (with Chewie :D ) would like to ally up with you guys for Clan Wars.
:salute
We are part of an alliance at current, although that does not preclude us from helping our friends out so long as it aligns with the alliance goals of removal of the removal of AOD and the goons from Europe.
How many tier X's are ya'll fielding these days? If it is sizable and you can fight with the clans in Europe, I will introduce you at an alliance meeting and we can go from there.
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We hate AOD and would do whatever it took to bring them down.
I'm not entirely sure on our current count of top tier vehicles. I know we have at least 2 E100's, a Maus, IS7, 3 T95's, Two JagdTigers and 2 Obj704's and quite a few artillery.
Right after that is an absolute army of tier 9 heavies.
We also have a handful of tier 9 mediums.
My in-game name is USMarine. Original right? xD
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Marine,
Just a bit of advice. Until you guys can field a full team of Tier X's, then the clan wars aspect will be very difficult. 99% of the clans can do that and will do that. High tier arty is very important. T95's are niche vehicles that we use very rarely. We also use one or two scouts (E50 or T54 depending upon application). Other than that, the rest of the vehicles just simply see very little use.
You guys should be learning to work as teams. Learning to focus your fire and learn each map like the back of your hands. Go into training arenas and just drive around the maps and learn the angles. Also, you need to work at getting usable strategies in place for each map. When you land in Europe, the fights are extremely hard which is why many go play in Africa first. The payoff in Africa is terrible whereas in Europe, we were making 3500 gold a day at our height.
Right now, we are resting up for another alliance push.
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Oh we do. We've held territory before. Just took a break when school kicked back in. Everyone is back now and we're back to kicking butt. Our teamwork is outstanding.
We break down into squads/sections, go into our own vent channel and then relay information essential to the entire team through the in-game chat. It cuts down on chatter. Not to mention our arty does an excellent job at concentration and timing of fire. ;)
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Marine,
Just a bit of advice. Until you guys can field a full team of Tier X's, then the clan wars aspect will be very difficult. 99% of the clans can do that and will do that. High tier arty is very important. T95's are niche vehicles that we use very rarely. We also use one or two scouts (E50 or T54 depending upon application). Other than that, the rest of the vehicles just simply see very little use.
You guys should be learning to work as teams. Learning to focus your fire and learn each map like the back of your hands. Go into training arenas and just drive around the maps and learn the angles. Also, you need to work at getting usable strategies in place for each map. When you land in Europe, the fights are extremely hard which is why many go play in Africa first. The payoff in Africa is terrible whereas in Europe, we were making 3500 gold a day at our height.
Right now, we are resting up for another alliance push.
What alliance is it?
Forge is free roaming right now till some dust settles.
Currently:
34 IS7s, 21 Mausen, 18 E100s, 31 T30s, 28 T-54s, 14 E-50s, 28 Pattons, 11 704s, 10 JTs, 8 T95s, 40 Tier 8 arty
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well, i just got a 20$ giftcard to gamestop, and i dont really want any games...should i use it to buy a WoT card for myself so i can get some gold/premium tank and about 1m credits?
or should i just buy myself gears of war 3 with my giftcard and my edge card?
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For any who might have played a bit but either stay away from the forums or haven't logged in in the past few days, the open testing for Ver 7.0 is up and free to be used. Check the forums for info on how to change it to English instead of Russian (use the 2.0 method), as they released it for testing before they'd completed the localization packages.
Has some interesting new features, new maps and tanks, and improved graphics and animations. Not a bad update once all the kinks are worked out.
Just be advised before hand that the Russian players on the test servers are a pain in the butt- apparently they've all decided that everything that's wrong with the world is the fault of America, and delight in telling us all why whenever they get the chance- usually after they've fragged you.
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holy necro thread. ><
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For any who might have played a bit but either stay away from the forums or haven't logged in in the past few days, the open testing for Ver 7.0 is up and free to be used. Check the forums for info on how to change it to English instead of Russian (use the 2.0 method), as they released it for testing before they'd completed the localization packages.
Has some interesting new features, new maps and tanks, and improved graphics and animations. Not a bad update once all the kinks are worked out.
Just be advised before hand that the Russian players on the test servers are a pain in the butt- apparently they've all decided that everything that's wrong with the world is the fault of America, and delight in telling us all why whenever they get the chance- usually after they've fragged you.
I read they're TK'ing the heck out of anyone that uses English in the text chat.
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The new test goes up end of the week. It may possibly have the English language package. If you have not tested the new patch now, it might be just as well to wait until Friday, the new patch may be out then.
Some have complained about Russian players TK'ing U.S players, most have not. Think about it, you've probably seen a lot of people on your team you'd like to kill.
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Still grinding away. :bhead I think I've only ran into one AH'er so far, late to the party maybe. Yes Virgil, I've popped a teamate accidently unlike some turd who shot 4 teamates other night. :rolleyes: His name turned blue maybe he was booted I hope.
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If they go blue you can shoot them
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