Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 09, 2015, 06:30:57 PM
Silly buckeyes think they have a good coach. That might as well be lebron James coaching that team, or maybe he is... :noid. How much longer will OSU go without a coach? The PR person they have no sure plays the part. :neener:
GO BLUE! THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN. GO BLUE!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: USRanger on November 09, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BaldEagl on November 09, 2015, 10:34:10 PM
Losing the Little Brown Jug was a heartbreaker. Next year.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 10, 2015, 11:11:45 AM
Michigan hasn't been relevant for more than a decade. Mentioning past championships of that age is pointless to an extent. Currently, Michigan State and OSU are the only two worth mentioning within the Big Ten. Northwestern slipping through the cracks because they didn't even play a decent team. Nebraska will need a couple of seasons to rotate players in to the new coaching regime but have been quiet, (like Penn State) since coming over to the Big Ten. Iowa is always a crap shoot and the rest are filler.
But I merely sit back while most Wolverine fans ignore the present and live in the past. Beating up on Rutgers is pointless when two games a year matter.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 10, 2015, 11:25:42 AM
Pfft. Michigan can still win the big ten. Shame on you.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 10, 2015, 01:05:37 PM
Michigan hasn't been relevant for more than a decade. Mentioning past championships of that age is pointless to an extent. Currently, Michigan State and OSU are the only two worth mentioning within the Big Ten. Northwestern slipping through the cracks because they didn't even play a decent team. Nebraska will need a couple of seasons to rotate players in to the new coaching regime but have been quiet, (like Penn State) since coming over to the Big Ten. Iowa is always a crap shoot and the rest are filler.
But I merely sit back while most Wolverine fans ignore the present and live in the past. Beating up on Rutgers is pointless when two games a year matter.
The present is great. You are the one focusing on the past.
(By the way, in the other post, I was responding to a guy who said, "Hey, once you've won a national championship, we can talk." Well, they have. He didn't say, "Hey, once you've won a national championship since a time I conveniently pick to include Ohio State but not Michigan, we can talk.")
As for not doing well over the previous 10 years, well, yes -- that was the whole point of getting Harbaugh, which seems to have made a positive change in the present.
MSU and Ohio State being the only two to mention, except that: -- Michigan is 7-2, where they lost to MSU only by a fluke in the last 10 seconds of the game. -- Michigan's only other loss was Utah on their very first game, when they weren't playing particularly well compared to today. -- The shutouts of #22 BYU and #13 Northwestern. -- Michigan has the #1 ranked defense in the nation currently. -- Iowa is undefeated and ranked #8. -- MSU is rated #14 while Michigan is rated #15 right now. -- Wisconsin and Northwestern are ranked. -- Wisconsin has lost only to #3 ranked Alabama and unbeaten Iowa. -- Ohio State so far has played *no* ranked teams. -- Michigan State so far has played only one ranked team (Michigan). -- Michigan so far has played three ranked teams, not even counting Utah.
These are all things in the present.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 10, 2015, 01:47:31 PM
You could also say Miciganh out played every opponent this year. They look like a very good team. November 28th I believe, the big house, be there or be square.
Go Blue!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 10, 2015, 02:20:58 PM
The present is great. You are the one focusing on the past.
(By the way, in the other post, I was responding to a guy who said, "Hey, once you've won a national championship, we can talk." Well, they have. He didn't say, "Hey, once you've won a national championship since a time I conveniently pick to include Ohio State but not Michigan, we can talk.")
As for not doing well over the previous 10 years, well, yes -- that was the whole point of getting Harbaugh, which seems to have made a positive change in the present.
MSU and Ohio State being the only two to mention, except that: -- Michigan is 7-2, where they lost to MSU only by a fluke in the last 10 seconds of the game. -- Michigan's only other loss was Utah on their very first game, when they weren't playing particularly well compared to today. -- The shutouts of #22 BYU and #13 Northwestern. -- Michigan has the #1 ranked defense in the nation currently. -- Iowa is undefeated and ranked #8. -- MSU is rated #14 while Michigan is rated #15 right now. -- Wisconsin and Northwestern are ranked. -- Wisconsin has lost only to #3 ranked Alabama and unbeaten Iowa. -- Ohio State so far has played *no* ranked teams. -- Michigan State so far has played only one ranked team (Michigan). -- Michigan so far has played three ranked teams, not even counting Utah.
These are all things in the present.
Northwestern played no one which is why I addressed that one in the previous post. You lost to MSU and OSU will take Michigan to pound town in a couple of weeks. Rutgers was a tune up game as was BYU, since they lost their starting QB a week prior. I am sorry but I am tired of hearing it. Michigan will need about five to seven years to become relevant again. Not this messiah like miracle of going to the playoffs within three years. People who even think that are not being rational. They have to regularly best the two top teams and then the discussions can begin. Until then? Their dance card is absentia.
When it comes to college football I am a realist. You posted the Championship years which include Yosts hand picked referees at home. Sorry when I hear those retreads come out, it tells me how little some can talk about football. Like some Yankees fans and rings.
Michigan State and Ohio State have superior programs and have for at least ten to fifteen seasons. The numbers don't lie and pre-WWII championships cannot be reused.
Finally. MSU won because on that play, they were out coached. Michigan sent four gunners down field toward one receiver and left the box 10 to 6, not including the punter. It was not a fluke. It was a grave error on the part of Harbaugh. Watch it a couple of times. Two MSU backs went in unimpeded.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 10, 2015, 02:40:56 PM
Must be a delusional baseball fan. MSU was a joke before dantonio. Remember Jon l and bobby w. Lol. Little brother. Michigan is legit. MSU played a great game against um this year and Michigan had them beat. You can't take anything away from either team they both blay excellent games. You can not say OSU will beat up um, um is a different team this year and they are playing great football. OSU plays sparty in two weeks and they better be ready.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 10, 2015, 03:02:59 PM
I think lil brother may be seeing the end of their little run, and has the couch burners nervous. Low snap cost Michigan this years game next year M wins 35-7.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 10, 2015, 03:23:43 PM
Must be a delusional baseball fan. MSU was a joke before dantonio. Remember Jon l and bobby w. Lol. Little brother. Michigan is legit. MSU played a great game against um this year and Michigan had them beat. You can't take anything away from either team they both blay excellent games. You can not say OSU will beat up um, um is a different team this year and they are playing great football. OSU plays sparty in two weeks and they better be ready.
Little Brother is Michigan and I do not even root for a Big Ten team. Michigan did not have them beat, because they lost. The only two "legit" teams in the conference are MSU and OSU.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 10, 2015, 05:03:46 PM
Yeah, not looking so good loosing your ol qb wr lb and dl. gong to be a tough year. :devil
Who is living in the past? Again, I don't root for a Big Ten team but D'Antonio has outcoached Michigan for how many years now? But Michigan fans try to tap dance between the past and present.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 10, 2015, 05:45:47 PM
Northwestern played no one which is why I addressed that one in the previous post.
Northwestern played tougher teams than Ohio State has so far.
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You lost to MSU
Yes. On an improbable fluke in the last 10 seconds of the game.
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and OSU will take Michigan to pound town in a couple of weeks.
They'd better. They are ranked #2 and Michigan is ranked #15. If they can't do that, they aren't #2 material.
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Rutgers was a tune up game as was BYU, since they lost their starting QB a week prior. I am sorry but I am tired of hearing it.
If you are tired of hearing of about Rutgers, simply don't bring it up. I haven't mentioned Rutgers at all -- you keep doing that. If you want to talk about "tune up" games, you can take your pick of the entirety of Ohio State's season so far (except for Penn State and maybe Minnesota, although I'm sure you can muster some snobbish disdain for them as well).
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Michigan will need about five to seven years to become relevant again. Not this messiah like miracle of going to the playoffs within three years. People who even think that are not being rational. They have to regularly best the two top teams and then the discussions can begin. Until then? Their dance card is absentia.
Defining "relevance" being tied only to national championships is an absurd and ridiculous exaggeration. By that definition, Ohio State was not relevant for the majority of the past 15 years. MSU has not been relevant in the past 15 years.
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When it comes to college football I am a realist. You posted the Championship years which include Yosts hand picked referees at home. Sorry when I hear those retreads come out, it tells me how little some can talk about football. Like some Yankees fans and rings.
When it comes to college football, I think that you are an argumentum ad absurdum.
(Forget about the championships I posted. That was a discussion I had with someone else, not started with you. I already explained that. No need to harp on it. It is irrelevant to what we are discussing here, namely your absurd notions of "relevant" and "present".)
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Michigan State and Ohio State have superior programs and have for at least ten to fifteen seasons.
Yes, for the last decade or so. But this year is clearly, measurably, and demonstrably different compared to pre-Harbaugh.
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Finally. MSU won because on that play, they were out coached.
They coached the Michigan punter to fumble the snap? Incredible. (I also like how MSU's superior coaching got one of Michigan's top defensive players thrown out of the game on a crap call.) I guess they used up their magical coaching powers, though, and didn't have any left for that irrelevant 3-and-6 Nebraska.
You shouldn't be all grumpy and sour about Michigan football becoming relevant again. It is good for the Big 10. Unless you are worried that MSU and Ohio State can't handle it going forward, or don't like it that Michigan gets lots of publicity, or hate Michigan because it is one of the top 30 universities in the world. ;)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 10, 2015, 05:50:40 PM
Who is living in the past? Again, I don't root for a Big Ten team but D'Antonio has outcoached Michigan for how many years now? But Michigan fans try to tap dance between the past and present.
I dont think many Michigan fans are looking to the past right now. I for one am excited as hell about the next few years. This year has already been a success for me, if you knew anything about football and actually watched the games you would see just how far the kids playing have come since last year, kids that would never have seen the feild under Hoke are now a big part of the team. Sione Houma is a perfect example of that I wish we had him one more year. Then there are the running backs where Hoke had Drake Johnson BURIED in the depth chart just sitting there then when injuries faced Hoke to put him in he provided a spark.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 10, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
Little Brother is Michigan and I do not even root for a Big Ten team. Michigan did not have them beat, because they lost. The only two "legit" teams in the conference are MSU and OSU.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 10, 2015, 05:53:00 PM
maybe hes a mac fan...Im guesing just a hater. having lived most of my life in michigan there are three types here. michigan fans, spartan fans and packer fans. the rest dont like football. Go Blue :banana:
living in the past... how bout this. (http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1316679/boombraxton.gif) :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 10, 2015, 05:57:49 PM
maybe hes a mac fan...Im guesing just a hater. having lived most of my life in michigan there are three types here. michigan fans, spartan fans and packer fans. the rest dont like football. Go Blue :banana:
living in the past... how bout this. (http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1316679/boombraxton.gif) :banana: :banana:
NOpe IM gonna say Notre Dame, you know the guys that took their ball and went home.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 10, 2015, 05:58:41 PM
I dont think many Michigan fans are looking to the past right now. I for one am excited as hell about the next few years. This year has already been a success for me, if you knew anything about football and actually watched the games . . .
:aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 10, 2015, 05:59:33 PM
OK I am gonna live in the past here but how awesome were the 2009,2010 and 2011 games lol.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 10, 2015, 06:23:57 PM
You live in a state and don't root for any local team?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 10, 2015, 06:28:02 PM
If you guys have never read this its pretty damn funny. http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2015/11/10/9705820/hatin-ass-spurrier-stays-undefeated
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 10, 2015, 06:29:53 PM
in 2011 with seven nation army playing and 110,000 yellow pom poms... I had chills. best game ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQfYcqcacfk
its a shame touchdown jesus had to quit. that was a hell of game every year. 2nd game of the season. then the irish would play sparty. i guess it was more than they could bear. :rofl
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 10, 2015, 06:50:30 PM
Hackett is Elrond, Harbaugh is Aragorn and Michigan football is Anduril. :bolt:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Dichotomy on November 11, 2015, 12:12:31 AM
Well by beloved Frogs spit the bit against OSU last weekend but, to be honest, I didn't see them or anybody from the Big 12 in the final four. After decades of mediocrity finishing in the top 25 is a plus in my book. I figure they'll wind up number 9 or so.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 11, 2015, 12:22:03 AM
NOpe IM gonna say Notre Dame, you know the guys that took their ball and went home.
F the Irish and no to MAC/Big Ten. But thanks for playing. Some Michigan fans are delusional and unable to accept any facts/criticism of their team. They are not relevant right now, but slappies will say they are. When they actually make it to the Big 10 Championship on a consistent basis, they might be relevant again. When they can actually win a Big 10 Championship, they might be relevant again. Here and now for this season, UM lost to MSU and will more than likely get taken to pound town by OSU, barring an epic MASH Unit of injuries from OSU. College Football is about what you do now, not what you did 10 years ago.
It is funny watching you three scramble and relive your high school years, in trying to figure out who I root for. Most of my family went to/graduated from Michigan. But nope, since 1983 I have rooted for another team. I will root for Michigan, as long as they do not play my team. However, I watch quite a few games every Saturday and can separate dreams from reality.
Ham, I went to Michigan Stadium from 1994-2004 for every Home Game except one, as my wife used to get Alumni seats. I also wore my teams colors and gained the respect of excellent Michigan fans who sat around me and still attend their tailgates/bowl parties to this day. Most of those fans are capable of taking of the maize and blue glasses. Once David Brandon did the scholarship hike (while sitting on $45 million in untaxable monies) and no one in my family wanted those seats. I got Detroit Tigers season tickets from 2005-2010, as I was already down there 30 games a season. I watch many games on Saturday, so that torpedoes your baseless assumptions. Watching you three knock each other over has been a riot. Thank you for the laughs.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 11, 2015, 12:24:46 AM
Well by beloved Frogs spit the bit against OSU last weekend but, to be honest, I didn't see them or anybody from the Big 12 in the final four. After decades of mediocrity finishing in the top 25 is a plus in my book. I figure they'll wind up number 9 or so.
OSU got hot at the right moment. They might be the one team to topple Baylor who has had a very easy schedule, but will be tested these next four weeks.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Dichotomy on November 11, 2015, 12:38:29 AM
OSU got hot at the right moment. They might be the one team to topple Baylor who has had a very easy schedule, but will be tested these next four weeks.
It's dang sure going to be interesting. Frankly I hope Baylor beats OSU and my Frogs beat Baylor. I'd call that a winning season for me :)
It's kind of a wretch for me when TCU takes on UT though. I like both teams although I'm a little biased towards TCU. Got a lot of history with that team going back to when I was about five.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on November 11, 2015, 01:43:45 AM
you can talk about how the buckeyes have not played great all year all you want my gut feeling is they will turn it up when wishigan state comes to columbus, and as for the wishigan game well dont be suprised if you guys get smoked, i honestly dont think are team plays for cardale you can just see that he has done something that has turn the team against him they play hard enough to win and thats it when JT is playing its another team.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 11, 2015, 02:46:02 AM
F the Irish and no to MAC/Big Ten. But thanks for playing. Some Michigan fans are delusional and unable to accept any facts/criticism of their team. They are not relevant right now, but slappies will say they are. When they actually make it to the Big 10 Championship on a consistent basis, they might be relevant again. When they can actually win a Big 10 Championship, they might be relevant again. Here and now for this season, UM lost to MSU and will more than likely get taken to pound town by OSU, barring an epic MASH Unit of injuries from OSU. College Football is about what you do now, not what you did 10 years ago.
It is funny watching you three scramble and relive your high school years, in trying to figure out who I root for. Most of my family went to/graduated from Michigan. But nope, since 1983 I have rooted for another team. I will root for Michigan, as long as they do not play my team. However, I watch quite a few games every Saturday and can separate dreams from reality.
Ham, I went to Michigan Stadium from 1994-2004 for every Home Game except one, as my wife used to get Alumni seats. I also wore my teams colors and gained the respect of excellent Michigan fans who sat around me and still attend their tailgates/bowl parties to this day. Most of those fans are capable of taking of the maize and blue glasses. Once David Brandon did the scholarship hike (while sitting on $45 million in untaxable monies) and no one in my family wanted those seats. I got Detroit Tigers season tickets from 2005-2010, as I was already down there 30 games a season. I watch many games on Saturday, so that torpedoes your baseless assumptions. Watching you three knock each other over has been a riot. Thank you for the laughs.
YOu realize nobody has made it to the B1G Championship on a consistent basis right? SO you have a problem with Dave Brandon and now anyone who thinks M is good and relevant again are 'slappies' I really pitty you and this is the last response you're getting from me as I see you are not emotionally capable of having a civil conversation. Ill save your seat on the bandwagon when you're ready :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 11, 2015, 02:50:25 AM
you can talk about how the buckeyes have not played great all year all you want my gut feeling is they will turn it up when wishigan state comes to columbus, and as for the wishigan game well dont be suprised if you guys get smoked, i honestly dont think are team plays for cardale you can just see that he has done something that has turn the team against him they play hard enough to win and thats it when JT is playing its another team.
Yeah I really dont get why JT was not the start the whole year. I honestly thought JT was just more complete QB IMO.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 11, 2015, 06:59:53 AM
YOu realize nobody has made it to the B1G Championship on a consistent basis right? SO you have a problem with Dave Brandon and now anyone who thinks M is good and relevant again are 'slappies' I really pitty you and this is the last response you're getting from me as I see you are not emotionally capable of having a civil conversation. Ill save your seat on the bandwagon when you're ready :aok
Wrong and you got lippy first. I have applied more facts into this discussion than yourself. But you want to strut here and throw out baseless assumptions and you got burned.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 11, 2015, 07:17:57 AM
F the Irish and no to MAC/Big Ten. But thanks for playing. Some Michigan fans are delusional and unable to accept any facts/criticism of their team. They are not relevant right now, but slappies will say they are. When they actually make it to the Big 10 Championship on a consistent basis, they might be relevant again. When they can actually win a Big 10 Championship, they might be relevant again. Here and now for this season, UM lost to MSU and will more than likely get taken to pound town by OSU, barring an epic MASH Unit of injuries from OSU. College Football is about what you do now, not what you did 10 years ago.
It is funny watching you three scramble and relive your high school years, in trying to figure out who I root for. Most of my family went to/graduated from Michigan. But nope, since 1983 I have rooted for another team. I will root for Michigan, as long as they do not play my team. However, I watch quite a few games every Saturday and can separate dreams from reality.
Ham, I went to Michigan Stadium from 1994-2004 for every Home Game except one, as my wife used to get Alumni seats. I also wore my teams colors and gained the respect of excellent Michigan fans who sat around me and still attend their tailgates/bowl parties to this day. Most of those fans are capable of taking of the maize and blue glasses. Once David Brandon did the scholarship hike (while sitting on $45 million in untaxable monies) and no one in my family wanted those seats. I got Detroit Tigers season tickets from 2005-2010, as I was already down there 30 games a season. I watch many games on Saturday, so that torpedoes your baseless assumptions. Watching you three knock each other over has been a riot. Thank you for the laughs.
:rolleyes: back to the bullpen please. :ahand no need for snooty haters, like nate said the bandwagon will save a seat for you, only its going to be another ten years before the tigers are good again. :neener:
:old:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 11, 2015, 07:46:06 AM
Hey NatCig you see any baseless accusations tossed about by me? or any relevant fact presented anywhere in this thread? NO me either. Funny how people toss about the word 'relevant' in relation to college football teams cuz I am pretty sure a 0-9 team can be relevant when they beat an 9-0 team that's why college football is so great anyone can beat anyone, but some people would rather vomit thier opinion all over a forum and present it as fact while competently putting down anyone who has a different opinion. YOU know those kinda people that bring an element of negativity to what is obviously supposed to abe a light, civil and adult conversation.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 11, 2015, 08:17:15 AM
Civil? Really "Notre Dame"? Since 2000:
Michigan vs Michigan State - 3-12 Michigan vs OSU - 3-12
Keep tap dancing Ham. Two teams are at the top of the heap in the Big Ten and UM is not one of them, yet. Those teams are consistently playing well. Especially OSU and I hate OSU.
Edit: Michigan is supposed to beat the other Big Ten teams each season. But again, two games matter for three teams.
"Hater"? Why? Because Michigan hasn't done much in the last ten years and I refuse to budge from that documented fact NatCigg? "Bandwagon"? Whose bandwagon am I on? I am very critical of my teams and do not defend half-assery or just sliding by.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 11, 2015, 09:28:14 AM
Michigan vs Michigan State - 3-12 Michigan vs OSU - 3-12
Keep tap dancing Ham. Two teams are at the top of the heap in the Big Ten and UM is not one of them, yet. Those teams are consistently playing well. Especially OSU and I hate OSU.
Edit: Michigan is supposed to beat the other Big Ten teams each season. But again, two games matter for three teams.
"Hater"? Why? Because Michigan hasn't done much in the last ten years and I refuse to budge from that documented fact NatCigg? "Bandwagon"? Whose bandwagon am I on? I am very critical of my teams and do not defend half-assery or just sliding by.
Didnt know that would push your buttons so hard, Im sorry you're right about everything.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 11, 2015, 09:44:09 AM
Um-msu is tied 8-8 since 2000. After rich rod and the loss of morals and dantonios second year its MSU 7-1. Brought to you by factcheck.me that means before rich Michigan had it 7-1. I'd say game on and bunches of MSU fans will be waiting for basketball season again. :evil:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 11, 2015, 12:20:42 PM
First it was "You Michigan guys live in the past."
Then, when we pointed out that we are living in this year, you use "since 2000".
You say that, unless a team regularly plays in national championships, they aren't relevant. By that measure, maybe no team is relevant.
Then you say that unless a team regularly plays for the conference championship, they aren't relevant (which is diluting your original definition by a factor of 10). Still, by that metric, very few teams in college football are relevant. Let's look at just the Big 10 for the past 5 years. Ohio State was champion in 2014, and MSU for 2013 and 2010 (cochamp), and Wisconsin was champion in 2012, 2011, and 2010 (cochamp) -- three years in a row -- but you define them as irrelevant, in contradiction to your own exaggerated definition.
No one here is arguing that Michigan was a powerhouse every year "since 2000". No one here is saying that Michigan is the best team in the nation in 2015.
We are merely saying that, in 2015, Michigan is certainly relevant, unless one takes an absurd, ridiculous, and self-contradictory definition of what "relevant" means.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: alskahawk on November 11, 2015, 12:44:11 PM
Go Iowa!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 11, 2015, 01:05:57 PM
First it was "You Michigan guys live in the past."
No one here is arguing that Michigan was a powerhouse every year "since 2000". No one here is saying that Michigan is the best team in the nation in 2015.
No. You posted the championships picture which is the usual modus operandi. I merely retorted as such, but nice try to spin that one on to me. I can concede the co champs of 1997, but the rest of it as I said prior doesn't matter.
There are most certainly three teams and the other two are definitely ahead of Michigan. Much to the dismay of a few posters here. I merely used 2000 as a solid litmus test of all three programs in trying not to "live in the past". In three to five years the gap might be closed. But I have already said all of this while everyone else decided to do the two step.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 11, 2015, 02:51:04 PM
Again -- that was a discussion with a separate person on a separate topic. It wasn't directed at you. It wasn't in reply to any post by you. It isn't part of my discussion on this topic with you. It isn't -- at all -- part of my discussion of whether or not Michigan is a relevant football team in 2015.
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There are most certainly three teams and the other two are definitely ahead of Michigan.
I'm not disputing that. However, having two teams ranked higher than you does not make you irrelevant.
Let's look at the progression of your definitions of relevance. -- 1st was relevance = regularly playing for the national championship. Clearly, this makes all or nearly all teams irrelevant. -- So, 2nd was relevance = regularly winning the conference championship. This has similar problems to the above. -- Now, 3rd, I guess, relevance = no more than one team ahead of you in rankings. Well, at least now you have two teams in the country that are relevant, and everyone else (from #3 on down) is irrelevant. This still is exaggerated to absurdity.
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I merely used 2000 as a solid litmus test of all three programs in trying not to "live in the past".
First, you can't use a discussion of 2000 (which is the past) as a tool to not discuss the past. Second, I am not talking to you about the past but about 2015 (which is the present).
Remember, here is what I'm talking about with you: that Michigan (in 2015) is not irrelevant except by a definition of relevance that is exaggerated to an absurd and self-contradictory level.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 11, 2015, 07:22:53 PM
I am very happy with this year for Michigan -- they are already doing way better than I had deemed likely.
And here is my daydream: -- Ohio State beats MSU. -- Michigan wins all its remaining games, including then the Big 10 championship vs. Iowa. -- Michigan gets into the playoffs and wins it all.
538 says it isn't impossible!
I also would like to win the lottery.
If I do, I will buy all of you a beer, even Masherbrum. He can even drink it out of an Ohio State glass.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 11, 2015, 07:58:58 PM
(http://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/default/files/c/2011/05/xweloverichrod.jpg.pagespeed.ic.fUt3RrDWrF.jpg) - Rich Rod is now trolling UM by having much more success at Arizona.
- Hoke now works on a Sirius XM radio talk show.
- Who knows where Harbaugh will end up. This guy is mentally unstable.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 11, 2015, 08:11:39 PM
(http://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/default/files/c/2011/05/xweloverichrod.jpg.pagespeed.ic.fUt3RrDWrF.jpg) - Rich Rod is now trolling UM by having much more success at Arizona.
- Hoke now works on a Sirius XM radio talk show.
- Who knows where Harbaugh will end up. This guy is mentally unstable.
Thank you Plaz. Some post championships pre-WWII, but keeping 2000+, is not good enough. I'm not allowed to bring up Appalachian State/Toldeo. I am not allowed to bring up the bumbling oaf who couldn't make anything out of "5 star recruits", while MSU thrashed them with 3 and 4 star recruits.
Now that the messiah is in Ann Arbor, only this year is allowed to be talked about and MSU has already beaten them (again). The funniest thing is that I live 30 minutes from Ann Arbor and work 10 minutes from there and live this talk daily. Most of my family went there, graduated there.
The bottom line is that Michigan hasn't accomplished much since being Co-Champs in 1997.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 11, 2015, 10:32:12 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 12, 2015, 01:45:02 AM
haters gonna hate, lovers going to love, i dont really want, none of the above... (http://24.media.tumblr.com/06b9defee0de00b05d261d64080c007b/tumblr_mrq62drVzN1rg28udo1_250.gif) drip drip drip
By the way, I don't dislike Masherbrum -- I like jousting with him here. I enjoy debates.
I enjoy a good debate as well, but even if you are best of friends. Others read this forum, who do not know you or him and then assume it is okay to take cheap shots (not saying you or him are guilty of it, but a perception) at members of the community.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 12, 2015, 03:27:39 PM
Won't be long til he bails out of TTUN. That is if he doesn't spontaneously self-combusts.
NO way will Harbaugh bail on Michigan, go watch the presser of his introduction when he starts talking about his kids wearing Michigan gear you can see the nostalga he also stated he wanted to be here permanently. on top of that I think he honestly wants to see Michigan great, wants to pay homage to his school and bo and be compared to be compared to Bo as one of the great Michigan coaches.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 12, 2015, 05:19:07 PM
I am very happy with this year for Michigan -- they are already doing way better than I had deemed likely.
And here is my daydream: -- Ohio State beats MSU. -- Michigan wins all its remaining games, including then the Big 10 championship vs. Iowa. -- Michigan gets into the playoffs and wins it all.
538 says it isn't impossible!
I also would like to win the lottery.
If I do, I will buy all of you a beer, even Masherbrum. He can even drink it out of an Ohio State glass.
Yeah I figured 7-5 MAYBE 8-4 but Michigan has a great chance to be 9-3 and a good chance to be 10-2 but then again who knows thats why the games are played but as I stated before this years team is leaps and bounds better than last years in preparation, coaching and mentality, not mention this staff can make 2nd half adjustments.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 12, 2015, 05:23:13 PM
Also just gonna put this here (https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--dARXoDKA--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_north,h_358,q_80,w_636/18183tgkpy8a6png.png)
With that attitude how the hell is he starting over JT. as someone pointe dout it liooks like the team playes better for him(JT) and while I haven't seen much of Ohios games this year I noticed that was the case last year too.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MiloMorai on November 12, 2015, 06:00:59 PM
Classes would have improved his English.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 12, 2015, 06:21:38 PM
or better coaching... (http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2014/11/urban-590x900.jpg)
With the talent OSU has there are no excuses. He really is a poor coach and Im glad he is in Ohio.
He will go down as another Failed coach. :old:
Michigan attracted the number one running back recruit for a visit and OSU threatened him so he pulled his commitment. :aok
U of M is looking at getting the number One player this year as well. Why? the education at michigan, the culture to develop a good man AND go to the NFL. :rock
Harbaugh is in position to be a legend. I think he likes that. :rock
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 12, 2015, 06:52:05 PM
Heh!
But . . . I want Ohio State to be an excellent, highly regarded team, yet for Michigan to beat them (of course). :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 12, 2015, 07:07:34 PM
Also just gonna put this here (https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--dARXoDKA--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_north,h_358,q_80,w_636/18183tgkpy8a6png.png)
With that attitude how the hell is he starting over JT. as someone pointe dout it liooks like the team playes better for him(JT) and while I haven't seen much of Ohios games this year I noticed that was the case last year too.
Cardale's tweet is a classic example of "what you say on the Internet is never forgotten". People of all ages- especially the younger folks finishing up high school- should take note and learn from this. When you say something stupid on the Internet, someday it's going to come back and haunt you. Some things may cost you a potential job when you're out searching for one. Since then Cardale has turned his act around and has worked on maturing and growing up.
I do agree that the OSU offense moves better with JT on the field and the stats support this. I've been advocating for JT to start since the off-season began. I just don't think Cardale has the right type of offensive personnel around him in order to fully succeed. Cardale is more of a traditional pro-style QB whereas JT is more of a read-option spread QB. Because OSU's offense is built and predicated under spread philosophies, JT is the better candidate to lead the offense.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 12, 2015, 09:29:34 PM
Cardale's tweet is a classic example of "what you say on the Internet is never forgotten". People of all ages- especially the younger folks finishing up high school- should take note and learn from this. When you say something stupid on the Internet, someday it's going to come back and haunt you. Some things may cost you a potential job when you're out searching for one. Since then Cardale has turned his act around and has worked on maturing and growing up.
I do agree that the OSU offense moves better with JT on the field and the stats support this. I've been advocating for JT to start since the off-season began. I just don't think Cardale has the right type of offensive personnel around him in order to fully succeed. Cardale is more of a traditional pro-style QB whereas JT is more of a read-option spread QB. Because OSU's offense is built and predicated under spread philosophies, JT is the better candidate to lead the offense.
Do you think Meyer is starting Cordele because he may be changing his offensive philosophy? I was watching some tv and they brought up the point that so many people now run the spread, that defenses are more adept at defending spread they they are the pro style offenses.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 13, 2015, 08:15:36 PM
That's what I've heard as well. As I understand it, Urban wanted to implement more pro-style packages and play calling to stay one step ahead of the defenses. Adding more wrinkles to the offense is a good way to make opposing defenses feel more pressure in preparing. A bold move on his part but I think he wound up outsmarting himself.
Defenses may be starting to adapt to spread offenses but so far the read-option offense is working well for us. As I see it, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I do admire Urban wanting to stay one step ahead and I think at one point our offense will need to change in the next few years. That's of course he decides to coach for another ten years.
As for Jim Harbaugh, he's a great hire for TTUN. I admire his love for the game of football and he is a very good and respectable coach.
Thoughts and prayers go out for Lloyd Carr's grandson and their family. He was recently admitted to the hospital and it doesn't bode well with the brain tumor diagnosis.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 21, 2015, 05:53:56 PM
Ohio! wtf? who calls your plays? :bhead
See you next week, loosers.
:devil
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 21, 2015, 08:17:57 PM
HAve you seen what Elliot said after their loss? I was working , but I kinda see why they didnt use him much; he was in the hospital with a fever of 103 earlier this week. Sometime you have to do what is right for the kid even if the kid don't know any better.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on November 21, 2015, 08:19:33 PM
zeke had 11 carries all game, team is a wounded animal now they don't have a 23 game winning streak hanging over them if they play to their full ability they are still a good team, this is the art of college football you win some you lose some. on to the next game one thing won't change for me , i was buckeye born buckeye bread and i'll be a buckeye when i'm dead. GO BUCKS
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: shotgunneeley on November 21, 2015, 10:06:26 PM
Bad evening to reflect...
That makes the second time this season our game-winning field goal wound up getting blocked. Not the kicker's fault, line keeps getting blown through. Wish we had that 4th and 1 back where they attempted some 25yd TD bomb - that hurt big time.
AR - 50 : MS State - 51
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 21, 2015, 10:43:16 PM
Biggamer, are you a member of the 11Warriors blog? Your comment above bears a similar statement to one posted on that forum.
Tip of the hat to MSU. They played hard and wanted that win. They wanted that win more than our coaches did and MSU deserves it. Mark Dantonio is a quality coach running a quality program.
I have to agree with Elliot's comments on the coaches play-calling however it is not his place to criticize his coaches- let alone rip on them on national TV. It exudes an image of disrespect and lack of discipline. I personally would not be surprised if the coaches bench him for the upcoming game as punishment. In the end it won't matter too much since he'll be going pro after this season.
I may be over analyzing the players' comments after the game but there appears to be some kind of rift between the players and coaches. All these issues we've been having on the field all seaon long has finally cost us a game. If these problems don't get fixed, it'll cost us another one. It starts with the coaches.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on November 22, 2015, 01:46:01 AM
no i'm not plazus the only thing i follow them on is bleacher report sir
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Xtrepid on November 22, 2015, 07:17:45 AM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 28, 2015, 06:24:28 PM
i was at the game today and noticed zeek is his own show. he walked into the tunnel by himself and did not talk/make eye contact with oscar meyer. :rofl
the second half was tough to watch. the running into the kicker was a shame and downhill from there. but stopping ohio on 4th down at the end of the 4th quarter was sweet. A small victory.
enjoy your second class bowl ohio and see you next year. losers. :neener:
Go Hawks!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 28, 2015, 07:07:49 PM
It never gets old kicking the hell out of TTUN. I did not like when the crowd booed our injured players on the field. I thought it was tasteless. But it's a rivalry game so that's to be expected.
For all you TTUN fans still stuck in the past, how about a little history lesson?
OHIO STATE'S RECORD AGAINST MICHIGAN SINCE... Televisions introduced (1926): 44–41–4 The discovery of penicillin (1928): 44–39–4 The invention of radar (1935): 39–36–4 The completion of the first general purpose computer, ENIAC (1946): 35–30–3 Sound barrier broken (1947): 35–29–3 The discovery of DNA (1953): 34–25–2 Man lands on the moon (1969): 23–20–2 Apple II released (1977): 19–17–1 Fall of the Berlin Wall (1989): 14–10–1 Internet becomes available to general public (1991): 14–8–1 Google founded (1998): 13–4 YouTube launched (2005): 9–1
Stay classy Wolverine fans.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 28, 2015, 07:48:37 PM
I did not like when the crowd booed our injured players on the field. I thought it was tasteless. .
:rofl the convenient 60 second timeout as michigan is driving to the endzone. good thing they took so much time with it so he could play the second half. urban should have them take more soccer classes, the crowd was not fooled by his acting as he walked, then limped, then grabbed a coach as a brace, then finally hurriedly hoped off the field. :rofl
(http://static.goal.com/278100/278193_heroa.jpg)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 28, 2015, 08:00:41 PM
that s alright 9-3 s ahell of alot better than 5-7. Actually saw improvement this year next year will be better. Also I would like to welcome a certain troll back to the thread, funny how we havent seen her in a few weeks...
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 28, 2015, 11:32:43 PM
Congratulations, Ohio State on your victory.
Now that The Game is over, I wish you victory in your bowl game.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 28, 2015, 11:35:54 PM
Hey, at least Harbaugh brought the Little Brown Jug back to Michigan.
:rofl
You are so pleased. Yet, according to you, Ohio State is now irrelevant, since it isn't playing for the national championship or even the Big 10 title.
Of course, I disagree with you completely on your definition of relevance, as you know.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BaldEagl on November 29, 2015, 12:53:14 AM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on November 29, 2015, 09:04:09 AM
enjoy your second class bowl ohio and see you next year. losers. :neener:
Go Hawks! [/quote]you sir can enjoy your potato chip bowl ,wishigan can dream on urban has lost 4 games sense becoming our coach hairball lost 3 this year and the only one that truly matters the game, sure we lost against Michigan state by 3 points the pressure overcame our team,we still have a slim chance of making it now but not impossible, I don't think anyone wants to play us when the pressure is off just like last year ,if we don't make it go Michigan state win it and bring the big ten another one sec is overrated big ten best conference IMHO
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 29, 2015, 09:17:30 AM
glad Iowa is undefeated........however they did not play anyone. Reminds me when an undefeated Cincinnati team went up against Florida. You won't beat Michigan State.
Good Luck. Ference is a very good coach. When was the last time Iowa made a bowl of any significance? And even won one????
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 29, 2015, 10:25:51 AM
You are so pleased. Yet, according to you, Ohio State is now irrelevant, since it isn't playing for the national championship or even the Big 10 title.
Of course, I disagree with you completely on your definition of relevance, as you know.
You totally miss the mark as always. OSU is very relevant, as are MSU. UM simply keeps losing to the two teams that matter.
:rofl the convenient 60 second timeout as michigan is driving to the endzone. good thing they took so much time with it so he could play the second half
(http://static.goal.com/278100/278193_heroa.jpg)
It made no difference how long it took. UM was a slow team anyways. If anything it probably helped your players catch their breath on their TD run. UM was gassed in the second half regardless.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: USRanger on November 29, 2015, 01:43:45 PM
Thanks for posting this. Everyone should check it out. To some of us, the OSU vs. Michigan rivalry isn't just a tradition. It is ingrained in our very souls.
You totally miss the mark as always. OSU is very relevant, as are MSU. UM simply keeps losing to the two teams that matter.
Not at all. The mark is how you defined the word "relevance". You defined it at first as a team that regularly plays for the national championship. Later, you changed it to be a team that plays for the national championship or wins the Big 10 title. You made up your definition in a transparent attempt to include OSU and MSU and to exclude all other Big 10 teams -- especially Michigan. Yet, it is such a ridiculous definition that it now excludes OSU, and if MSU loses to Iowa, it will exclude MSU.
By the way, it is a clear indication of a weak argument to attempt to deflect from the point and to use obviously false and hyperbolic terms like "as always".
Remember, my point is that you have a ridiculous definition of "relevant".
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 29, 2015, 02:46:36 PM
Best of luck to Iowa and MSU. You guys deserved it. Just remember that after either of you win the B1G Championship your work is not done. Save the emotional hangover until after you win the CFP Championship.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: rpm on November 29, 2015, 03:00:47 PM
Meanwhile down in Jawjuh...
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In something of a surprise move, longtime Georgia Bulldogs head coach Mark Richt has been fired, ESPN's Mark Schlabach is reporting. Richt had just finished his 14th season in charge in Athens with a career record of 145-51 after beating Georgia Tech 13-7 Saturday.
Richt has been successful as the head coach of the Bulldogs, winning two SEC titles and six SEC East division titles, but Georgia's debacle losses became an annual thing. But he never won or played for a national championship with Georgia, and was the subject of fan unrest every few years as a result. A strong start
Richt came to Georgia in 2001 with a pedigree as a potential program-changer, having served as Bobby Bowden's quarterbacks coach at Florida State for the entirety of the Seminoles' dominant run in the 1990s, and as FSU's offensive coordinator from 1994 to 2000. And he got the Bulldogs up and running swiftly, leading them to a 13-1 record, Georgia's first SEC title since 1982 and a Sugar Bowl victory.
Georgia won 10 games in five of the next six seasons, too, adding another SEC title in 2005 and another Sugar Bowl victory in 2007. By the end of that 2007 season, Richt had the most 10-win campaigns by a coach in school history.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 29, 2015, 03:37:06 PM
I have been waiting for Richt to be cut.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: USRanger on November 29, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Not at all. The mark is how you defined the word "relevance". You defined it at first as a team that regularly plays for the national championship. Later, you changed it to be a team that plays for the national championship or wins the Big 10 title. You made up your definition in a transparent attempt to include OSU and MSU and to exclude all other Big 10 teams -- especially Michigan. Yet, it is such a ridiculous definition that it now excludes OSU, and if MSU loses to Iowa, it will exclude MSU.
By the way, it is a clear indication of a weak argument to attempt to deflect from the point and to use obviously false and hyperbolic terms like "as always".
Remember, my point is that you have a ridiculous definition of "relevant".
Ahh, Michigan. You just cant beat a good brain. :old:
Not at all. The mark is how you defined the word "relevance". You defined it at first as a team that regularly plays for the national championship. Later, you changed it to be a team that plays for the national championship or wins the Big 10 title. You made up your definition in a transparent attempt to include OSU and MSU and to exclude all other Big 10 teams -- especially Michigan. Yet, it is such a ridiculous definition that it now excludes OSU, and if MSU loses to Iowa, it will exclude MSU.
By the way, it is a clear indication of a weak argument to attempt to deflect from the point and to use obviously false and hyperbolic terms like "as always".
Remember, my point is that you have a ridiculous definition of "relevant".
Wrong again, YOU said National. Reply#38 - "When they actually make it to the Big 10 Championship on a consistent basis, they might be relevant again. When they can actually win a Big 10 Championship, they might be relevant again."
Now going by your word twisting. OSU is still in the mix of because they do win and were the defending National Champions from last season. Also, it is common sense that in order to even vie for a National Championship, you must win your Conference. Meanwhile, UM slappies want to share the spotlight with MSU playing in its third Conf. Champ. game in the last five years and OSU who went the previous two years. As much as I hate OSU, I respect the program. Now with UM, go back 12 seasons and you were co-champs in 2004 with Iowa.
Jay I have a high opinion of him. I thought he was a good Coach. I think Georgia will do worse not having him. JMHO.
I liked him, but all good things must come to an end. He did get stale in the recruiting and I believe that is what did him in. Not to mention, having issues in some big games.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 29, 2015, 08:07:28 PM
Man I dont know about them letting Richt go(at this time), no he never brought a championship, and only 2 SEC championships but he did have constant high win teams and was respected. The llack of championships for all that talent really hurt his case and yes he would need to go at sompoint in the next few years if he didn't deliver but I am not sure now was the time, simply because WHO is out there to replace him? Kirby Smart and Dan Mullen would probably the best options but Mullen really hasn't done much with Mississippi state. yeah they LOOK(Miss.St. better than they have but he still has conference losing record. Tom Herman isnt going to leave Houston after a single year(well dont think so) VT. just snagged the guy from Memphis. I do think that DJ Durkin is not going to be a DC for much longer before someone give his a shot(even though I hope iot dont happen)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 29, 2015, 08:11:22 PM
Man I woulda really like to see Iowa and Michigan play in the B1G championship game, not only for the obvious reason but for the Jake Rudock V Iowa aspect of it.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 29, 2015, 08:43:59 PM
Man I woulda really like to see Iowa and Michigan play in the B1G championship game, not only for the obvious reason but for the Jake Rudock V Iowa aspect of it.
Same here -- would have loved seeing Rudock play Iowa.
Now, I'm hoping he's not injured severely and will be healthy for the bowl game.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 29, 2015, 09:10:25 PM
Michigan will need about five to seven years to become relevant again. Not this messiah like miracle of going to the playoffs within three years.
Everyone knows what "the playoffs" mean with respect to college football, given that there is the well-known annual tournament officially named "the College Football Playoff". It is also national.
So, you said the above, and I said that it was absurd to define football teams as relevant only if they go there.
After that, you added Big 10 championships to the definition, which is still absurdly restrictive.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 29, 2015, 09:30:17 PM
Forget it Brooke guys a troll, it obvious in the way he disappeared from the thread when M was winning, only to resurface just now.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: puller on November 30, 2015, 08:38:25 AM
BOOMER!!!!! :rock
That is all.....
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 30, 2015, 03:38:26 PM
OK, my updated hopes.
-- That Rudock is fine for the bowl game, that Michigan wins a great victory (of course), and that Rudock has a fantastic game. -- That Ohio State has a tremendous victory in its bowl game. -- That Michigan State beats Iowa and goes on to win the National Championship! (Sorry, Iowa, you are admirable, but I'm from Michigan. However, if Iowa does beat MSU, my wish is for Iowa then to go on to win the National Championship. :aok ) -- That Iowa has a tremendous victory in its bowl game (or games). -- That all Big 10 teams win their bowls.
And, I want a pony.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 30, 2015, 04:26:06 PM
-- That Rudock is fine for the bowl game, that Michigan wins a great victory against Florida, and that the defence has a fantastic game. -- That Ohio State has a tremulous game in its bowl game loss to anybody. -- That Iowa beats Michigan State and goes on to win the National Championship! (Sorry, MSU, you are admirable, but I'm from Michigan and this state is not big enough for two. :aok ) -- That Iowa has a tremendous victory in its bowl game against Alabama. -- That all Big 10 teams win their bowls minus OSU (because the smell like Ohio :0D)
Go Blue, fixed.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: alskahawk on December 01, 2015, 04:56:41 AM
Man I woulda really like to see Iowa and Michigan play in the B1G championship game, not only for the obvious reason but for the Jake Rudock V Iowa aspect of it.
I would have liked to see Rudock and Michigan play Iowa. For those who don't follow the Big Ten. Jake Ruddock was Iowa's QB for the last couple of years and while he wasn't bad, he was demoted to number 2 in January of this year and given an open transfer. CJ Beathard has more than exceeded our expectations. It would have been a fun match up. But its going to be 12-0 Iowa vs 11-1 Michigan State. Both teams have had some tough games over the years so it should be a good game.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on December 01, 2015, 10:03:23 PM
Looks like it will be Kirby Smart at Georgia
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on December 02, 2015, 05:02:30 AM
So the B1G has 5 teams in the top 15 the ESS EEE SEA has 2 ACC has 3 Big 12 with 3. Are the other conferences catching up to the SEC? Is anyone gonna beat Bama the rest of there year? I really dont see Bama losing they are rolling right now havent really got to watch a Clemson game so I dont really know how legit they are.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 02, 2015, 10:44:46 AM
So the B1G has 5 teams in the top 15 the ESS EEE SEA has 2 ACC has 3 Big 12 with 3. Are the other conferences catching up to the SEC? Is anyone gonna beat Bama the rest of there year? I really dont see Bama losing they are rolling right now havent really got to watch a Clemson game so I dont really know how legit they are.
Bama fan here - I think Oklahoma is playing as well as anyone right now and they do not have to play this weekend - they are a lock. They are scary good and their offense would give Bama fits.
Of the Big Ten teams looking at the CFP, I think Michigan State poses the biggest challenge to Clemson and Bama.
No one team has better than a 50/50 chance to win in the semi-final. I think Iowa is a bit suspicious, but admittedly I haven't watched them play
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on December 02, 2015, 11:33:48 AM
Man if Keenan Reynolds dont win the Heisman it will be an absolute shame. The guy runs a read offense that means he has to make the correct read on every play(no simple hand off to the rbs) he is graduating form a service academy while breaking records and leading Navy to a 9-2 record. Then ESPN and Nissan decided to pull his name form thier fan voting ballot: http://www.campusrush.com/campus-clicks-espn-navy-heisman-keenan-reynolds-1488021152.html (http://www.campusrush.com/campus-clicks-espn-navy-heisman-keenan-reynolds-1488021152.html)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: alskahawk on December 02, 2015, 01:33:29 PM
So the B1G has 5 teams in the top 15 the ESS EEE SEA has 2 ACC has 3 Big 12 with 3. Are the other conferences catching up to the SEC? Is anyone gonna beat Bama the rest of there year? I really dont see Bama losing they are rolling right now havent really got to watch a Clemson game so I dont really know how legit they are.
Probably more likely it is cyclical. Neither Ohio State or Michigan State played up to their potential most of the year. Nebraska, Wisconsin are both in the dumps this year. Iowa has played well above where anyone thought they would. Their roster is made up of 4 star recruits and below. Not one 5 star recruit on the roster. I had expected them to be 7-5 at best this year.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 02, 2015, 01:35:18 PM
Bama fan here - I think Oklahoma is playing as well as anyone right now and they do not have to play this weekend - they are a lock. They are scary good and their offense would give Bama fits.
Of the Big Ten teams looking at the CFP, I think Michigan State poses the biggest challenge to Clemson and Bama.
No one team has better than a 50/50 chance to win in the semi-final. I think Iowa is a bit suspicious, but admittedly I haven't watched them play
as much as i hate to admit it when you look at msu they are really good. offensive line is senior healthy and good, qb is senior and good, wr are skilled in every slot, and burbridge is nfl caliber, rb all four are good. on defense this is where they are scary good up front they simply dominate, they must be near the best, lb are skilled and play the game tough, secondary is young and their biggest weakness but if you give them a chance they would be happy to make you pay. i have not watched the top four play, they will need to be at their best to beat sparty and the iowa game should be a good game. i would guess the strengths will match well like msu vs osu and msu vs michigan.
does the other three have a defense that can stop the run and smash cook with a 4 man rush? can the pass the ball at will with a nasty fast rush in your qbs grill? that is what it will take to beat sparty at her best.
of course msu has a nak for losing when they are on top, a typical spartan flop! :neener:
p.s. dont tell dantonio i said that. :bolt:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on December 02, 2015, 02:08:45 PM
as much as i hate to admit it when you look at msu they are really good. offensive line is senior healthy and good, qb is senior and good, wr are skilled in every slot, and burbridge is nfl caliber, rb all four are good. on defense this is where they are scary good up front they simply dominate, they must be near the best, lb are skilled and play the game tough, secondary is young and their biggest weakness but if you give them a chance they would be happy to make you pay. i have not watched the top four play, they will need to be at their best to beat sparty and the iowa game should be a good game. i would guess the strengths will match well like msu vs osu and msu vs michigan.
does the other three have a defense that can stop the run and smash cook with a 4 man rush? can the pass the ball at will with a nasty fast rush in your qbs grill? that is what it will take to beat sparty at her best.
of course msu has a nak for losing when they are on top, a typical spartan flop! :neener:
p.s. dont tell dantonio i said that. :bolt:
#Disrespkt
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 02, 2015, 02:17:26 PM
Man if Keenan Reynolds dont win the Heisman it will be an absolute shame. The guy runs a read offense that means he has to make the correct read on every play(no simple hand off to the rbs) he is graduating form a service academy while breaking records and leading Navy to a 9-2 record. Then ESPN and Nissan decided to pull his name form thier fan voting ballot: http://www.campusrush.com/campus-clicks-espn-navy-heisman-keenan-reynolds-1488021152.html (http://www.campusrush.com/campus-clicks-espn-navy-heisman-keenan-reynolds-1488021152.html)
hes leading the vote by fans rite now. i had to write him in though. :salute #damtheman
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 02, 2015, 02:59:51 PM
as much as i hate to admit it when you look at msu they are really good. offensive line is senior healthy and good, qb is senior and good, wr are skilled in every slot, and burbridge is nfl caliber, rb all four are good. on defense this is where they are scary good up front they simply dominate, they must be near the best, lb are skilled and play the game tough, secondary is young and their biggest weakness but if you give them a chance they would be happy to make you pay. i have not watched the top four play, they will need to be at their best to beat sparty and the iowa game should be a good game. i would guess the strengths will match well like msu vs osu and msu vs michigan.
does the other three have a defense that can stop the run and smash cook with a 4 man rush? can the pass the ball at will with a nasty fast rush in your qbs grill? that is what it will take to beat sparty at her best.
of course msu has a nak for losing when they are on top, a typical spartan flop! :neener:
p.s. dont tell dantonio i said that. :bolt:
Bama's front 7 is very/very good. Statistically, they rank number two behind Boston College in total defense. Derrick Henry leads the Nation in total rushing yards.
Bama is currently:
#1 in rushing defense #20 in passing defense #3 in total sacks #1 in defense efficiency
However, in ESPN's football power index (FPI), Bama is #2 behind..... Oklahoma. http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings
Having said that, Bama can compete with any team on any given day. They have the talent and coaching - they just need to put together a complete game.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on December 02, 2015, 03:26:33 PM
Bama's front 7 is very/very good. Statistically, they rank number two behind Boston College in total defense. Derrick Henry leads the Nation in total rushing yards.
Bama is currently:
#1 in rushing defense #20 in passing defense #3 in total sacks #1 in defense efficiency
However, in ESPN's football power index (FPI), Bama is #2 behind..... Oklahoma. http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings
Having said that, Bama can compete with any team on any given day. They have the talent and coaching - they just need to put together a complete game.
Thats one thing about college football anyteam can compete on any day.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 02, 2015, 05:10:21 PM
Thats one thing about college football anyteam can compete on any day.
Yep.
I think that it will depend on who has everything clicking that particular day. If it were best of 7 games, then the variability of any given day would matter much less. But when it is one game, the game to game variability matters significantly.
Even the final games. UNC is a very good team, and Florida can be very good, too. If they play particularly well, they are capable of upsets -- it's not a chance of zero, just a lot less than 50%.
There is even still the chance that Ohio State gets back into the playoffs if Clemson or Alabama lost by enough. Maybe not highly likely, but possible. I would like to see two Big 10 teams in the playoffs. :)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 02, 2015, 05:13:04 PM
Alas, the rumor is that Maryland will lure away Michigan's DJ Durkin as Maryland's next head coach. :cry
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on December 02, 2015, 09:42:10 PM
Alas, the rumor is that Maryland will lure away Michigan's DJ Durkin as Maryland's next head coach. :cry
Done deal http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2015/12/02/michigan-football-dj-durkin-maryland/76672302/ (http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2015/12/02/michigan-football-dj-durkin-maryland/76672302/) good luck to him I am sure hell have Maryland playing tough soon.
Some rumors Pruitt may be interested in the Michigan job but too early well see where this goes.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 03, 2015, 01:55:10 AM
Durkin is a good one. I, too, think he'll do well at Maryland.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 03, 2015, 01:59:08 AM
I hope Bama beats Florida convincingly and Michigan State wins big. State jumps Oklahoma who is t playing this weekend setting up a semifinal between Michigan St and Bama. I would much rather play Michigan State than the alternative.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on December 03, 2015, 05:52:44 AM
I hope Bama beats Florida convincingly and Michigan State wins big. State jumps Oklahoma who is t playing this weekend setting up a semifinal between Michigan St and Bama. I would much rather play Michigan State than the alternative.
I'm sure ya thought the same about Ohio last year Go Team B1G!!....oh wait we dont do that :bolt:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 03, 2015, 06:22:19 AM
Henry vs a big ten run defense :headscratch: oh baby, here we go again. :banana:
Whatever the scoreboard displays at the end of the game, Henry will get his yards. It will be interesting to see the Henry/MichSt matchup if it's a little ten team vs Bama.
RTR!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on December 03, 2015, 12:59:18 PM
yeah I know but it was just like (http://www.hardballtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Homer.gif)
Good Job
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 03, 2015, 04:13:44 PM
OK, here it is.
UNC and Florida crush the opposition, Iowa and MSU go to 4 overtimes with MSU in the end winning it by 1 point with amazing, astonishingly excellent play by both teams, and the playoffs include three Big 10 teams: MSU, Ohio State, *and* Iowa.
It could happen. By the laws of quantum mechanics, the probability of that is not exactly zero. I can see it. Can you see it? :)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 03, 2015, 04:19:12 PM
UNC and Florida crush the opposition, Iowa and MSU go to 4 overtimes with MSU in the end winning it by 1 point with amazing, astonishingly excellent play by both teams, and the playoffs include three Big 10 teams: MSU, Ohio State, *and* Iowa.
It could happen. By the laws of quantum mechanics, the probability of that is not exactly zero. I can see it. Can you see it? :)
You need to share the narcotics
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 03, 2015, 04:29:57 PM
It's not that, but I did just an hour ago eat some leftover Brussels sprouts with lunch. . . .
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on December 03, 2015, 07:05:05 PM
I gave OSU the respect they deserved before the game and more importantly, after the game. They were the best team on the field that day
OSU's defense had no answer to Derrick Henry in the Sugar Bowl last year. If Lane Kiffin had called more plays to run Henry, then I suspect Alabama would have bested us in that game. I understand they wanted to mix it up a bit on offense, but if a player is really hot, why put out the fire?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 03, 2015, 07:29:56 PM
OSU's defense had no answer to Derrick Henry in the Sugar Bowl last year. If Lane Kiffin had called more plays to run Henry, then I suspect Alabama would have bested us in that game. I understand they wanted to mix it up a bit on offense, but if a player is really hot, why put out the fire?
They had no answer??? Who won??? What were you smoking when watching the game. Oh and I might add the prestige of the SEC has fallen somewhat and many College experts agree that now the BIG is the best conference. How many SEC in the top 6? Top 15?
As I always said things swing in cycles. No one conference will dominate all the time. Over time everyone gets a shot. OSU lost to Michigan State, Ala. lost to Ole Miss.
Where's Ole Miss in the rankings? The discussion can never be settled or won. Just enjoy College football for what it is. Better then the NFL imho.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on December 03, 2015, 07:48:41 PM
They had no answer??? Who won??? What were you smoking when watching the game.
Wasn't smoking anything. Proof is in the film.
Re-watch the Sugar Bowl game and observe the limited number of plays called where Derrick Henry carried the ball. When he did, he ran for large chunks of yards, breaking arm-tackles and making defenders miss. For every carry Henry had, it was a sure bet that Bama would pick up about 6-8 yards. The kid is a stud at getting yards after contact.
One can only speculate what the outcome of the game would have been like had Kiffin ran Henry more. Bama's best shot at beating OSU in that game was to keep handing the ball to their monster of a running back.
Doesn't really matter now. The Bucks won that game and that's what makes our CFP title run all the more special.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 03, 2015, 11:20:01 PM
It's not that, but I did just an hour ago eat some leftover Brussels sprouts with lunch. . . .
I like me some Brussel sprouts, but no need to share those
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 03, 2015, 11:25:26 PM
I can't pull for the rest of the SEC arbitrarily. I am a Bama fan, and that's where my fandom stops. There are some SEC teams pull for over an OOC opponent though
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 05, 2015, 11:56:26 AM
As we get ready for bowl games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODZzSOelss
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 05, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
Re-watch the Sugar Bowl game and observe the limited number of plays called where Derrick Henry carried the ball. When he did, he ran for large chunks of yards, breaking arm-tackles and making defenders miss. For every carry Henry had, it was a sure bet that Bama would pick up about 6-8 yards. The kid is a stud at getting yards after contact.
One can only speculate what the outcome of the game would have been like had Kiffin ran Henry more. Bama's best shot at beating OSU in that game was to keep handing the ball to their monster of a running back.
Doesn't really matter now. The Bucks won that game and that's what makes our CFP title run all the more special.
Agree on the Henry thing as his YPC were good, while the three picks and horrible third down conversions (want to say they were around 2 for 13) are what really hurt Bama. The rub is that OSU had an even better running game with Elliot, a superior third down conversion rate and less turnovers. I get what you're saying, but I want to say that the carries were around a +/- of 10 (almost even), with the yardage gained being about 100+. I just didn't see Henry making up that much on less than 10 carries is all.
OSU had a well balanced team, which is why they won. Definitely a great run you guys have had.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 05, 2015, 12:16:11 PM
They had no answer??? Who won??? What were you smoking when watching the game. Oh and I might add the prestige of the SEC has fallen somewhat and many College experts agree that now the BIG is the best conference. How many SEC in the top 6? Top 15?
As I always said things swing in cycles. No one conference will dominate all the time. Over time everyone gets a shot. OSU lost to Michigan State, Ala. lost to Ole Miss.
Where's Ole Miss in the rankings? The discussion can never be settled or won. Just enjoy College football for what it is. Better then the NFL imho.
Rankings are bogus at times, which is why I rarely take too much stock into them. Need proof? The winner of the Big Ten Championship tonight goes onto the playoff. The loser and Conference runner up, will most likely not play in the Rose Bowl. Which is horse hockey, as OSU will get that nod.
Also, don't even get me started on 2 loss teams being ranked ahead of 1 loss teams. Depending on some terms. Lord knows liars will mince words and confuse Conference with National.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 05, 2015, 01:24:46 PM
Also, don't even get me started on 2 loss teams being ranked ahead of 1 loss teams.
You would rank Houston ahead of Stanford, Notre Dame, Florida State, TCU, Baylor, Ole Miss, Oregon, and Oklahoma State?
Last week (week 13), you would have ranked Toledo ahead of Stanford, Florida State, Oregon, Ole Miss, and TCU?
If schedule didn't matter, then it would be best to make your hardest opponent Cream Puff State, stay at #1 (since you would lose no games), then go play in the national championship.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 05, 2015, 01:42:20 PM
it is just wrong that a team loosing its conference title game will get punished. the title game should be considered post season play. ohio state jumping Iowa or MSU would be a travesty. yet, by rule the rose bowl could take Indiana if it wanted but will most likely take the higher ranked team. rankings must go on i guess, MSU beating ohio state does not let a 11-2 trump a 11-1 :headscratch: , and Iowa losing to MSU who beat osu does not allow 12-1 to trump 11-1 :headscratch: ?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 05, 2015, 07:43:21 PM
That one is a conundrum.
I think the best way out is MSU, Ohio State, and Iowa in the college playoffs. :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: rpm on December 05, 2015, 08:09:43 PM
Meanwhile, in Waco... (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b1/7e/99/b17e998a96162e20117291f90b274582.jpg)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 05, 2015, 09:22:49 PM
Baylor = Overrated.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 05, 2015, 10:59:05 PM
North Carolina was robbed on that offside kick.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 05, 2015, 11:07:26 PM
Iowa got incredibly unlucky on a couple of plays and still played MSU super tough. They might stay ranked ahead of Ohio State and go to the Rose Bowl.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 05, 2015, 11:08:04 PM
good thing! most kids think they are still young but in reality they are 200-300 lbs monsters and people get hurt. its best to play two hand touch; but somebody always gets laid out. :rofl
as far as school sponsored games with helmets and pads...my college professor said, think of the hardest hit you had in high school and that is every hit in college. :uhoh
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 06, 2015, 05:07:09 PM
I say im happy. Michigan gets to play Florida, the two comeback kids. MSU gets Alabama and I get a shot at $100 (RTR!). Iowa in the Rose bowl. and two turds in a frog bowl (I dont know the one I want to lose more, maybe they tie and nobody wins.)
I say im happy. Michigan gets to play Florida, the two comeback kids. MSU gets Alabama and I get a shot at $100 (RTR!). Iowa in the Rose bowl. and two turds in a frog bowl (I dont know the one I want to lose more, maybe they tie and nobody wins.)
My brother is a huge Flordia fan, he started rooting for the Gators when Spurrier was there, so alot of the Saturday football get togethers I go to involve Florida guys, and even though Michigan beat that Meyer/Tebow team the same year as 'The Horror' they have always been atleast part time Michigan supporters.
Also, How about Georgia State? A team that didnt exist 6 years ago beats a team that racked up 613 rushing yards against them last year to the tune of 34-7.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 06, 2015, 10:01:39 PM
Hmm. I hope that Michigan playing Florida doesn't cause a problem in my household. My 5-year-old daughter loves alligators and was very happy to see the Gators on TV once. This might require some pre-game preparation.
On another note, I have put in my picks and feel confident that I alone will win the $1 million. If I do, I will send $50 to each participant in this thread for a beer and dinner on me.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 06, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
We know that you were drafted into the NFL straight out of high school. However, few people know of your NFL association because of your refusal to play despite being offered the largest contract in the history of the sport. It was all hushed up.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Reaper90 on December 30, 2015, 05:35:36 PM
So Changeup, you Sooners ready for a repeat? I think my Tigers aren't happy with being disrespected.....
gonna be a good one!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on December 31, 2015, 10:29:37 AM
Best of luck to the playoff contenders today. My upset picks for today are OU and MSU with OU getting crowned as National Champions.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: puller on December 31, 2015, 01:38:28 PM
Seriously why the F*** have they started calling him "Big Game Bob"??? It must be an ironic title. :bhead :bhead
it is
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on January 01, 2016, 04:07:30 PM
As usual, the Buckeyes a winner in bowl game, Michigan was leading Florida, Michigan State was an embarrassment to the B1G, Northwestern was squashed, Iowa who played the weakest schedule in the B1G is going to lose handily to Stanford. Bad year for B1G.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on January 01, 2016, 04:58:13 PM
As usual, the Buckeyes a winner in bowl game, Michigan was leading Florida, Michigan State was an embarrassment to the B1G, Northwestern was squashed, Iowa who played the weakest schedule in the B1G is going to lose handily to Stanford. Bad year for B1G.
Michigan dominated Florida. The future is bright in Ann arbor, I'm tempted to get season tickets. :x. Next stop signing day then spring practice.
Go Blue baby. I'll be looking to snag some stub hub tickets for The Game early next year. Maybe bring some roses to throw on the field after a Michigan win!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on January 01, 2016, 05:44:51 PM
Michigan dominated Florida. The future is bright in Ann arbor, I'm tempted to get season tickets. :x. Next stop signing day then spring practice.
Go Blue baby. I'll be looking to snag some stub hub tickets for The Game early next year. Maybe bring some roses to throw on the field after a Michigan win!
Harbaugh stuck with Rudock early in the year when alot of Michigan people thought at best he would be a game manager, Rudock returned the favor by looking like a 5-6th round NFL qb. As I said before 7-5 8-4 were what I figured tis team would be, so I am happy with this year The Blowout by Ohio sucked but with the way the kids improved from beginning of the year to the end of the year really makes me excited for next year too. I figured we'd lose Durkin and find a DC almost as good but picking up Don Brown from BC is a hell of a good get. I still like Durkin tho I think he is going to do good things in the future, I may even watch some Maryland games.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MiloMorai on January 01, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
Looks like another blow out in Kali (Rose Bowl).
One has to be crazy to spend, for an average price of $880 to see the game live. It is another $480 for the Champ game. :x
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on January 01, 2016, 07:12:09 PM
Ohio State.....record last 4 years 50 wins 4 losses. As of now OSU has the highest ranked recruiting class for 2016.
Michigan is going to be the Michigan of old with Harbaugh at the helm.
Looking good for at least these two B1G schools.
Quite frankly I don't know how anyone could have ranked Iowa 5th with its' lack of athletes and weak schedule.
MSU and Iowa were doomed to fail before they played their bowl games. Not enough athletes on either team.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on January 01, 2016, 09:46:18 PM
Well my upset picks totally backfired yesterday. :rofl
I am at least happy that OSU took care of business in the Fiesta Bowl. I wish things would have worked out better and that OSU was in the CFP as I feel that we would have been the best team to represent the conference. It is what it is. But Notre Dame is always a good matchup so no complaints there. TTUN had Florida's number today as well. Maybe the B1G will go back to the days of old where OSU and TTUN are the top two teams followed by everyone else in the conference? Or am I just jynxing myself again? We shall see.
Good luck to Clemson and Alabama today as they square off in the National Championship Game. :salute
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 01, 2016, 10:15:26 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 01, 2016, 10:26:15 PM
Also, congratulations to Ohio State, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Minnesota.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 05, 2016, 01:18:01 AM
Any folks out there think Michigan quarterback Rudock will make it into the NFL?
His stats are impressive. I hope he makes it.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on January 05, 2016, 04:10:54 PM
Good question, Brooke. I thought that Rudock did pretty well given the transitional change between schools and a brand new coaching staff. I think he is in good position to be a decent backup quarterback at the very least. I don't see him shattering records or playing as starter for the long term in the NFL but I could be wrong. If Rudock can strengthen his body some more and improve his football IQ, I don't see why he couldn't be a starter at some point in his career. It does help that he is familiar with the pro-style offense.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on January 05, 2016, 05:01:16 PM
Any folks out there think Michigan quarterback Rudock will make it into the NFL?
His stats are impressive. I hope he makes it.
who knows he really looked impressive toward the end, at the start of the year he was defiantly not a NFL calibre QB, end of year I'd say atleast a career backup kinda guy. I dont think hell be drafted or if he is its 5th or 6th round(and we all know what happend last time a Michign qb was picked 6thh round)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 05, 2016, 06:35:48 PM
(and we all know what happend last time a Michign qb was picked 6thh round)
Heh! Actually, there is something about how Rudock has been playing that reminds me of Brady playing as Wolverine quarterback. I wonder if Rudock could be really amazingly good. People haven't given him that much notice, but he did about 2400 yards a year at Iowa, and then over 3000 at Michigan, with very good pass completion percentage. He did fabulously against Florida, which going into the game had one of the best defenses in college football, with many players on defense destined for the NFL (including pass defenders).
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on January 05, 2016, 06:48:56 PM
if he could accurately throw the ball 20 more yards...i dont think michigan ran a food fly route after utah. other than that i could see him as a back up that will have to earn his way, he wont be given much.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on January 05, 2016, 08:41:34 PM
if he could accurately throw the ball 20 more yards...i dont think michigan ran a food fly route after utah. other than that i could see him as a back up that will have to earn his way, he wont be given much.
Did you wacth the last 3 games brah? Did you watch the last game when the Burned VH3 the second time? Rudock started hitting the deep stuff. That being said QBS have been know to win the Superbowl without terrific downfield passing..
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 05, 2016, 10:37:24 PM
I suspect Ohio State will be fine since they have had excellent recruiting classes.
yep, even with the Sr's leaving and all the guys that are leaving early I dont see a huge drop off for them. They have been stocking up for years and I am sure Urbs and his staff will have the next man up ready to go.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 06, 2016, 08:55:16 PM
I wonder who will be Michigan's next quarterback?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on January 07, 2016, 05:14:20 PM
John O'Korn, supposedly he was lights out all year on the practice squad but had to sit out a year after the transfer. If not him maybe Malzone or Speight or maybe Harbaugh can fix Morris
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 07, 2016, 05:22:05 PM
The only thing I can hope for is a miracle. They both lose.
That would make me very happy.
War Eagle!
You'd better worry more about them Auburn cubs than what we do to the Fighting Forrest Gumps Monday night..... September 3rd 2016 is coming, and you're gonna see a real cat eat. It's gonna be nasty. :t
is afraid of nor is he intimidated by any man on the face of this planet, even those who play for the Alabama Fighting Forrest Gumps red algae bloom elephants. :)
He's got ice in his veins, and is surrounded by a bunch of guys that are tired of being disrespected and picked to lose every week by the media and Vegas. They're hungry.
dam son of a bish I can't wait!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on January 09, 2016, 01:49:03 PM
:rofl Reaper
Monday night should be a pretty good game. Clemson has an incredible team this year. I hate Alabama/their off. coordinator with a passion, so I will gladly be rooting for the Tigers.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 10, 2016, 03:50:38 PM
Jake Rudock will be one of the quarterbacks in the East West Shrine Game on Jan 23rd. (Other QB's in the game: Vernon Adams, Jr., Nate Sudfeld, Joel Stave, Brandon Doughty, Blake Frohnapfel.)
Other Michigan players in the game are Graham Glasgow and Joe Bolden.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on January 10, 2016, 04:44:13 PM
My wife on her way to Glendale for the championship via a side trip through Vegas :headscratch: She's a Bama fan... I'm an Auburn fan but I guess for SEC sake, I'll be pulling for Bama :devil
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on January 10, 2016, 04:50:54 PM
My wife on her way to Glendale for the championship via a side trip through Vegas :headscratch: She's a Bama fan... I'm an Auburn fan but I guess for SEC sake, I'll be pulling for Bama :devil
Smart man. :rofl I see it being a barroom brawl type of game and would be floored if either team "ran away with it".
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Randy1 on January 10, 2016, 09:25:58 PM
My wife on her way to Glendale for the championship via a side trip through Vegas :headscratch: She's a Bama fan... I'm an Auburn fan but I guess for SEC sake, I'll be pulling for Bama :devil
I was hoping they both lose.
War Eagle
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on January 10, 2016, 10:58:22 PM
My wife on her way to Glendale for the championship via a side trip through Vegas :headscratch: She's a Bama fan... I'm an Auburn fan but I guess for SEC sake, I'll be pulling for Bama :devil
That 'Team SEC' mentality is why THE NORTH won.
War Tiger
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on January 12, 2016, 08:09:13 AM
I guess I'll be the first to say it Roll Tide! Clemson and Bama were equally talented and both well coached. This game was awesome and came down to a risky call by Saban - if the OSK failed, he would be ridiculed forever, but Griffith executed the play to perfection.
This game almost gave me a heart attack!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on January 12, 2016, 01:24:34 PM
I guess I'll be the first to say it Roll Tide! Clemson and Bama were equally talented and both well coached. This game was awesome and came down to a risky call by Saban - if the OSK failed, he would be ridiculed forever, but Griffith executed the play to perfection.
This game almost gave me a heart attack!
Clemsons D actually played pretty well but the blow coverage td passes really hurt, I'd say those plays and that amazing onsides won the game
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on January 12, 2016, 01:42:04 PM
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That 'Team SEC' mentality is why THE NORTH won.
I'm not from the ...I'm from Nevada so I won't that this as an insult :neener:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on January 12, 2016, 01:58:15 PM
Clemsons D actually played pretty well but the blow coverage td passes really hurt, I'd say those plays and that amazing onsides won the game
Special teams won the game for Bama. that 95 yard kickoff return helped a lot
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 12, 2016, 04:08:15 PM
I watched highlights of the game. Despite the score being close and big on both sides, most of the highlights were of Alabama big plays. I assume that there were a lot of awesome plays by Clemson, too, given the score.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on January 12, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
Congrats to Alabama on the National Championship win.
Congrats to Alabama on the National Championship win.
If Michigan was playing in the National Championship game, it would be extraordinarily difficult for me to cheer them on.
Now, don't be a sourpuss. I cheer on Ohio State in their post season. :aok
I look at it this way. I always want Michigan to beat Ohio State. But, after that game, I want Ohio State to do as well as possible, so that it is clear Michigan was playing a great team.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on January 12, 2016, 07:14:23 PM
Now, don't be a sourpuss. I cheer on Ohio State in their post season. :aok
I look at it this way. I always want Michigan to beat Ohio State. But, after that game, I want Ohio State to do as well as possible, so that it is clear Michigan was playing a great team.
Well, we can all laugh at sparty tho can't we?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on January 12, 2016, 08:18:20 PM
:rofl
late in the msu - alabama game when msu could have kicked a field goal and got some points on the board, :rofl they go for it. playing for the touchdown. :rofl
late in the michigan - osu game when osu was driving they could have kicked the field goal, :P trying to capitalize the d in his name ohio goes for it. michigan stuffs them. :rock
Go Blue
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on January 12, 2016, 08:27:55 PM
late in the msu - alabama game when msu could have kicked a field goal and got some points on the board, :rofl they go for it. playing for the touchdown. :rofl
late in the michigan - osu game when osu was driving they could have kicked the field goal, :P trying to capitalize the d in his name ohio goes for it. michigan stuffs them. :rock
Go Blue
Blue didn't stuff the Buckeyes enough. As I recall the score was 42 to 13 In the Big House. Michigan's chance will be this year, 9 Underclassmen going to the Pros not counting the Seniors at OSU. Most of them early round picks and Bosa just may well be #1. It's good to finally have Michigan back.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 12, 2016, 08:29:56 PM
I look at it this way. I always want Michigan to beat Ohio State. But, after that game, I want Ohio State to do as well as possible, so that it is clear Michigan was playing a great team.
Very good point. I just can't help but feel so dirty inside at the thought of cheering on TTUN in the NC game. :old: Now if they're playing in any other bowl game, I'd be okay with pulling for them for the win. It was a good, satisfying feeling watching TTUN trounce Florida in this year's bowl game. So far this millennium, Florida really had Ohio State's number in sports (IE: 2006 National Championships in both football and men's basketball, and in 2011 TaxSlayer Gator Bowl).
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on January 13, 2016, 02:10:01 PM
First - thanks Hajo.
I think Nick Saban can claim the greatest of all time at this point (GOAT). Anyone want to argue that?
I'm an Alabama fan, and without a doubt bias. I have beaten that drum that the Bear was the greatest - but what Saban has accomplished in coaching career is hard to dispute.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on January 13, 2016, 03:04:46 PM
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I'm an Alabama fan, and without a doubt bias. I have beaten that drum that the Bear was the greatest - but what Saban has accomplished in coaching career is hard to dispute.
What about Shug Jourdan? :devil
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 13, 2016, 03:45:02 PM
I think Nick Saban can claim the greatest of all time at this point (GOAT). Anyone want to argue that?
I'm an Alabama fan, and without a doubt bias. I have beaten that drum that the Bear was the greatest - but what Saban has accomplished in coaching career is hard to dispute.
Maybe you are biased, but that doesn't mean you aren't right. ;) No one can argue with the performance of Alabama and Saban.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on January 13, 2016, 06:40:23 PM
I think Nick Saban can claim the greatest of all time at this point (GOAT). Anyone want to argue that?
Nick Saban is without a doubt one of the best football coaches in the modern era. Is he the greatest of all time? Depends on who you ask and how you look at it. Here's some stats to munch over:
Nick Saban: Years Coached = 20 years Career Record = 196-60-1 overall and in NCAA major schools is at 191-60-1 Career Win Percentage = 76.5% Bowl Record = 8-8 Bowl Win Percentage = 50% Lowest Win Percentage at specific school = Michigan State @ 58.5% where his record there is 34-24 Lowest Win Percentage of any season = 50% tied for years 1996 and 1998 at Michigan State where his teams were 6-6 each season Highest Win Percentage at specific school = Alabama @ 85.4% where his record there is 105-18 Highest Win Percentage of any season = 100% for the 2009 season at Alabama. His team was 14-0 that year.
Nick Saban has built a football factory and a dynasty at Alabama. He only has one undefeated season as a head coach. His success will be marked in the history books for many years to come. Ever since he left Michigan State to coach at LSU, he has improved in coaching, recruiting, and managing the game. It's paid off in lots of wins and national titles. He's had 22 Consensus All-Americans at Alabama alone (testament to excellent recruiting and coaching) and 26 altogether.
Since I have a bias as well, and I'm an Ohio State fan, I'll post up Urban's numbers for comparison.
Urban Meyer: Years Coached = 14 years Career Record = 154-27 Career Win Percentage = 85.1% Bowl Record = 9-2 Bowl Win Percentage = 81.8% Lowest Win Percentage at specific school = Bowling Green @ 73.9% where is record there is 17-6 Lowest Win Percentage of any season = 72.7% at Bowling Green in 2001 where his team was 8-3 that year Highest Win Percentage at specific school = Ohio State @ 92.6% where is record there is 50-4 Highest Win Percentage of any season = 100% at Utah in 2004 where they went 12-0. 100% at Ohio State in 2012 where they went 12-0 without a bowl appearance.
Urban Meyer is competing against coaches 100 years ago in regards to the highest winning percentage in major FBS schools. Only two coaches rank above him in all-time winning percentage (Knute Rockne of Notre Dame and Frank Leahy of Boston College/Notre Dame). Among all active FBS head coaches, no one else even comes close to matching his win percentage. Bob Stoops comes in at 2nd with 79.5%. He also has two undefeated seasons as head coach (three if you only count the regular season games). He has three national championships to his name. When he took over as head coach for Ohio State, he won 24 straight games before losing to Michigan State in the 2013 Big Ten Championship game. In fact, as OSU head coach, Meyer has only ever lost to one Big Ten team in his career- and that is Michigan State. He is 4-0 against his chief rival, Michigan at OSU. Meyer has also won more national championships than he has bowl game losses (3 vs 2). Meyer only has 9 Consensus All-Americans in his entire coaching career (7 of which are from his time at Florida).
So who is the greatest of all time? Well Nick Saban is a seasoned coach and has "seen it all". He's had good years and bad years both. As Alabama head coach, he has built a college football powerhouse that churns out All-Americans and NFL players like socks in a sock factory. Saban is in his golden years of coaching. Urban Meyer is still a young coach in the grand scheme of things. He's got plenty of coaching years ahead of him. His incredible winning percentages may go up or down in the coming years as the college football game evolves.
Nick Saban and Urban Meyer are the only two FBS head coaches to have won a national championship at two different schools. Meyer claimed the 1st CFP national championship and Saban has claimed the 2nd CFP national championship.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on January 13, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Urban Meyer hasn't done so bad either. Urban is only50 years old, Saban around 65. Urban Meyer has time to build his championship complete resume.
I know I am a Buckeye fan, but I feel that OSU had a better chance at Bama. OSU has 9 underclassman entering the draft not to include the Seniors.
The Buckeyes were loaded with NFL talent. Would have ben a better match imho.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 13, 2016, 06:57:03 PM
The Buckeyes were loaded with NFL talent. Would have ben a better match imho.
I think most people would agree.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on January 13, 2016, 08:27:51 PM
Saban would come 2nd in current with Urban ahead of him. As far as better than Bear? Bear has Six National Championships if memory serves. I would place Bear ahead of Saban at this point.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on January 14, 2016, 07:18:16 AM
That is speculation, although I know there were a bunch of OSU fans and players that were sick after the Bama-MSU game.
As for Urban Meyer - definitely a great head football coach. The delineation between he and Saban is three additional NC titles for the latter. That is another indicator of success that IMO, makes Sabah the better coach
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on January 14, 2016, 09:35:41 AM
Ammo, Urban has many more years to go, Saban doesn't. So we'll see when the day is done. Can't argue about Urbans' record being better then Sabin's by all accounts.
And may I remind you the SEC,s best coaches are from the B1G. Someone had to teach those southern boys how to play football! :)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on January 14, 2016, 11:28:37 AM
Haha good one Hajo :rock
This Bama fan thanks you for Saban
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on January 14, 2016, 11:50:09 AM
But that's not the best part... Many of the greatest football coaches of all time came from Ohio. There's a good reason it is referred to as the birthplace of elite coaches.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on January 14, 2016, 12:47:26 PM
But that's not the best part... Many of the greatest football coaches of all time came from Ohio. There's a good reason it is referred to as the birthplace of elite coaches.
I didn't know Ohio is known for that.... Do they all end up in Alabama? :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on January 14, 2016, 06:22:26 PM
AMMO...........in recollection which is poor, Don Shula, Lou Holtz, Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechler, Urban Meyer, Paul Brown and more.
I can't remember the rest. I think George Halas was as well but I do know that there are more then I listed.
Ohio was the start of the NFL. Thus Footballs HOF is there. High School football in Ohio is one of the best states for college recruiting.
Ohio supplies players to MSU, Michigan, Notre Dame and when OSU played in the Nat. Championship last year two Oregon starters were from Ohio.
Ohio provides many more HS players to college programs around the country that I've mentioned such as Penn State etc.
dantonio is from ohio as well.
I asked a ohio fan why so many from ohio go to michigan? he said "because they cant all go to ohio." i spent a summer at ceder point and noticed at the local hood store there were a lot of michigan fans, sure felt like home :aok only i think they liked michigan more than we did. :uhoh goes to show football is life in ohio. but why only one good team? sure ohio has the MAC covered, but with all that tallent in the state why cant a school like cincinnati get to the top?
and plasus should you not capitalize "the" "The birthplace of elite coaches" ? :rofl :old: :bhead
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on January 15, 2016, 10:23:43 AM
I can, and anyone from Alabama for that matter, tell you that Alabama folks live and breath college football. Not pro football so much.
i noticed at the msu alabama game that 7 out of 10 male alabama fans wore a collared shirt to the game. :aok :salute
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on January 15, 2016, 10:25:32 AM
Ammo I can understand why Bama is all College, they have no professional team.
Ohio Is both College and Pro Football oriented. Even at Cleveland Indians games at the stretch Hang on Sloopy (the states official sport song)
is played and everyone stands up and to that tune O--H--I--O rings out from the fans as they form OHIO above their heads with their arms.
This is exclusive to Ohio. OSU is the TEAM of our state. Whether you are a Bengals Fan or Browns fan (yes we have two pro football franchises in this state.)
It is all OSU football even with the MAC being chiefly based in OHIO. We also are a huge football state as I said providing many college football teams
with players and many many Ohio born and bred players in both the College and Professional Hall of fames. I should also add College and Pro Football Coaches.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on January 15, 2016, 02:57:51 PM
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AMMO...........in recollection which is poor, Don Shula, Lou Holtz, Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechler, Urban Meyer, Paul Brown and more.
I can't remember the rest. I think George Halas was as well but I do know that there are more then I listed.
Ohio was the start of the NFL. Thus Footballs HOF is there. High School football in Ohio is one of the best states for college recruiting.
Ohio supplies players to MSU, Michigan, Notre Dame and when OSU played in the Nat. Championship last year two Oregon starters were from Ohio.
Ohio provides many more HS players to college programs around the country that I've mentioned such as Penn State etc.
Interesting, you left out Hayes :devil
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on January 15, 2016, 07:09:45 PM
There are still some pro football games if you are so inclined.
Capitalize away and suit yourself. Don't forget that your favorite team's head coach is from Ohio as well. You're welcome.
ah yes, toledo, The sliver of land traded for the largest copper, iron, and timber reserves in The world. thanks ohio! :aok if yous wants to come up and visit The u.p. remember The toll is four dollars at The bridge. :old:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on January 18, 2016, 09:12:01 AM
There are still some pro football games if you are so inclined.
Capitalize away and suit yourself. Don't forget that your favorite team's head coach is from Ohio as well. You're welcome.
The NFL has become a progressive and vaginalized organization... IMO - for what it is. The NCAA would like to model itself the same way, but schools have a lot to say on that matter (thank goodness).
Granted, that is a different discussion. This Bama fan will relish the CFP title for eight and half months with a shat eating grin :cool:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on January 18, 2016, 01:22:46 PM
The NFL has become a progressive and vaginalized organization... IMO - for what it is. The NCAA would like to model itself the same way, but schools have a lot to say on that matter (thank goodness).
Granted, that is a different discussion. This Bama fan will relish the CFP title for eight and half months with a shat eating grin :cool:
Ammo, we have seasonal sports here. Ohio is about all sports at differing seasons. We have the Cavaliers in Cleveland, The Columbus Blue Jackets for Hockey, and my favorite Baseball season with the Cleveland Indians and the Cinci Reds. Plus the Indians minor league squads are based in Ohio! Rookie League in Youngstown, A Ball Lake Erie captains, AA Ball Club in Akron, and the Indians' triple A club is in Columbus. We have sports all year to enjoy! Even Detoits Farm Club is in Toledo!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on January 18, 2016, 04:56:23 PM
ah yes, toledo, The sliver of land traded for the largest copper, iron, and timber reserves in The world. thanks ohio! :aok if yous wants to come up and visit The u.p. remember The toll is four dollars at The bridge. :old:
About the only good reason to go visit the Mitten State is for the craft beer. And since the local Giant Eagle here has a huge beer section (some of which come from the Mitten State), I really don't have any good reason to go. Thanks for the invite though! :aok
PS: Tell your head man in charge at TTUN to stop sleeping with teens!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on January 18, 2016, 05:36:24 PM
About the only good reason to go visit the Mitten State is for the craft beer. And since the local Giant Eagle here has a huge beer section (some of which come from the Mitten State), I really don't have any good reason to go. Thanks for the invite though! :aok
PS: Tell your head man in charge at TTUN to stop sleeping with teens!
Come on you know JIm makes the off season soo much funner I mean they had a feild day with this over on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/40obep/harbaugh_having_sleepover_with_recruit/ some how they got off topic into picking up women with only Harbaugh quotes.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 22, 2016, 10:34:37 PM
Tomorrow is the East West Shrine Game. Jan. 23 at 4 pm Eastern.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on February 03, 2016, 11:43:02 AM
LOL man I just don't know about this Signing of the Stars thing, unlike anything done before
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on February 03, 2016, 11:50:07 AM
Lol The Nature boy just kinda threw everyone off there WOOOO!!!!!
When he talked about the beta house with the boys :rofl whoa dont kiss and tell now ric :old: "I can't stand ohio state!" :rock "I dont have time for michigan state. and i know Bubba Smith and ill tell em to his face." LOL :salute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlhSD_fIwdQ
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on February 03, 2016, 04:48:23 PM
LOL man I just don't know about this Signing of the Stars thing, unlike anything done before
Cleverly done for sure. I do think it is way over the top but it looks like something that brings the UM kids closer and stimulates hype and support for the team. Much needed after the Rich Rod and Hoke failures in years past. You can definitely tell that JH is doing everything he can to market the Michigan brand- with the media publicity (sleeping w/ teens and climbing trees), satellite camps (hilarious trolling of the SEC schools), and this TV show.
I don't believe JH's shenanigans is necessary for a successful recruiting effort... "If you want tree climbing, and sleep overs, and pro wrestlers then this isn't the place for you" - Urban Meyer on OSU's 2016 recruiting class.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on February 03, 2016, 07:09:44 PM
2016's #1 recruit:
https://youtu.be/0YF-VTg2wyY?t=9
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on February 12, 2016, 06:30:19 PM
Rudock not invited to the combine.
Its a outrage!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on February 13, 2016, 05:52:00 PM
Watch the draft, and watch how many Buckeyes get Drafted. Elliot ranked number one in running backs Bosa ranked number one in DEs'.
Two DBs' will go high, Eli Apple and OSUs Safety along with LB Lee. Tucker ranked #4 Tackle...........bet at least 10 go in the first three rounds.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on February 19, 2016, 01:15:55 AM
Class of 2017 #1-rated QB, Dylan McAffrey, chooses . . .
son of Ed brother of Christian..yes please. Pretty athletic family.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on February 19, 2016, 11:36:09 AM
who is the mother? :headscratch: :x
google says: http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_29072213/broncos-ed-mccaffrey-wife-lisa-both-come-from-long-line-athletes
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on February 19, 2016, 05:22:44 PM
The number one OL is looking at Ann Arbor.
Jim H. is doing a great job.
Another year of this and the haters will really start.
:rock
I see block M's around the country in the future the M brand will surge through America!
:airplane:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on August 20, 2016, 04:27:22 PM
one more Week! Also Air Force showed off one of ht e uniforms they will be wearing this year http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2016-08-20/college-football-air-force-unveils-full-sharktooth-alternate
I like them but the Navy's "don't tread on me Uniforms I really liked: http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/look-navys-dont-tread-on-me-uniforms-for-army-game-on-saturday/
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on August 20, 2016, 06:33:09 PM
one more Week! Also Air Force showed off one of ht e uniforms they will be wearing this year http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2016-08-20/college-football-air-force-unveils-full-sharktooth-alternate
:aok good use of leftover stealth pigment.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on August 22, 2016, 01:36:00 PM
The Ohio State University's recruiting class for 17 is already ranked #1!
O H!
A little story if you will. I was at the Tampa airport wearing an OSU pull over windbreaker. About a couple hundred feet away I heard an O H!
about 40 other voices erupted in I O loudly around the area. Nothing like O H I O to hang on sloopy. Nobody but nobody in colleges has something that is
far and as widely known as recognizable then O H I O!
Oh and OSU set a record for the most players drafted within the first three rounds of an NFL draft. 2016 they will be young! Even still they are ranked #6 with
the inexperience they have. And! To top it off we have the team up north in Columbus this year after whipping their arses at their home field last year! O H!!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on August 22, 2016, 01:48:56 PM
Alabama picked #1 (the kiss of death) by AP :bhead but I am an Auburn fan. Oh well, GO SEC :D Ram
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: puller on August 22, 2016, 02:31:13 PM
BOOMER!!!!!!! :rock
That is all....
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on August 22, 2016, 02:40:07 PM
q: what does a buckeye grad call a wolverine grad in five years? a: boss
q: why couldn't baby jesus be born in ohio? a: because they could not find three wise men or a virgin.
:rofl
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on August 22, 2016, 03:15:02 PM
i know you wishigan fans are excited right now but you wont be when you come to Columbus and reality sets in once again :D
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on August 22, 2016, 03:59:52 PM
I'm eager to see which quarterback Michigan will go with, how he does, and how the defense will be with the new coordinator.
Brooke.....Ohio State added a defensive coordinator that was a head coach in the NFL. Will be a fun year the Buckeyes lost a lot of talent. Young class.
Watching them grow will be fun.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on August 22, 2016, 06:24:05 PM
Puller, the young Buckeyes will be at Oklahoma 3rd game of they year. It will be fun to watch the young Buckeye talent. I think The Team up North plays the "Sisters of the worthless miracle" that week! :bolt:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on August 22, 2016, 06:27:49 PM
Brooke.....Ohio State added a defensive coordinator that was a head coach in the NFL. Will be a fun year the Buckeyes lost a lot of talent. Young class.
Watching them grow will be fun.
I think that Ohio State is becoming like Kentucky in basketball that gets awesome talent and will have some turnover, though, as players will go pro earlier. It will be fun to see, and I suspect that they'll do great. I'm a Michigan fan who wants both Ohio State and Michigan to be very, very good! :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on August 22, 2016, 06:31:07 PM
I think The Team up North plays the "Sisters of the worthless miracle" that week! :bolt:
Don't discount them. They play tough, and those habits make it hard to spot which way they are making their moves. I predict Michigan victory, but grudging respect for the gritty play of the Sisters.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on August 22, 2016, 06:57:05 PM
Look for it, expect it, and don't cry when it happens. Repeat!
I think that Ohio State is becoming like Kentucky in basketball that gets awesome talent and will have some turnover, though, as players will go pro earlier. It will be fun to see, and I suspect that they'll do great. I'm a Michigan fan who wants both Ohio State and Michigan to be very, very good! :aok
Brooke I agree. Makes the BIG stronger.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on August 23, 2016, 05:05:38 AM
I'm eager to see which quarterback Michigan will go with, how he does, and how the defense will be with the new coordinator.
What I am reading is that Wilton Speight is actually holding on to the starting job, but o'Korn has more athleticism. I am just really looking forward to year 2 under Harbaugh and maybe just maybe seeing some of this freakish ability of Tyrone Wheatly jr. at tight end. Hes gonna be behind Butt, and Bunting. McKeon and Asiasi may get playng time as well but more likely one of those two will be redshirted. Two of the more freshmen coming in caught suspensions for some reason Amir Mitchell and Shelton Johnson. Mitchell was more high;y touted and even was at Signing of the stars.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on August 23, 2016, 05:35:46 PM
I think that Ohio State is becoming like Kentucky in basketball that gets awesome talent and will have some turnover, though, as players will go pro earlier. It will be fun to see, and I suspect that they'll do great. I'm a Michigan fan who wants both Ohio State and Michigan to be very, very good! :aok
If Michigan ever gets on par with Ohio state(its possible but not gonna happen right away) it will be huge for the conference as a whole with the increased national exposure not saying that Jimmy don't keep M in the news anyway lol) and may help teams like Illinois or Penn State get better(IMO). i think Maryland already helped themselves by getting Durkin who was already a know name with Flordia, So now Durkin can pull kids from Flordia and Ohio.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on August 23, 2016, 05:44:35 PM
Washington is getting a ton of hype this year with petersen as thier coach but Illinois hired lovie Smith and you have to belive he can get that program moving in the right direction and I think Indiana is expected to be scary again this year they ended up 6-7 but they took OSU, Michigan, and Iowa to the wire they also got blown out by penn State and struggled with Southern Illinois and Western Kentucky(not that those are marshmellow teams) if that says anything.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on August 23, 2016, 06:49:11 PM
I forgot to mention the AP ranked the greatest Football Teams since 1936. The AP as many of you know, has ranked football longer then anyone. Before the BCS and during the AP is still in business and was the standard.
The Number 1 Football Team of all time is.................The Ohio State University!
Here is the article and explains the rankings.
http://collegefootball.ap.org/top-100
BTW Urban Meyer has a great Coaching career (he is an Ohio Boy) and coached under Earl Bruce. Many forget that the great Paul Brown led the Buckeyes to a National Championship as Coach at OSU in 1945.
The coaching tree in Ohio has the largest of any state of Coaches that were successful in NCAA Football and the NFL. After all...the NFL was born here in Ohio! Football is King! Boy is born in Massillon Ohio, football
is placed in his crib at birth. It has been tradition for many many years. Massillon/Canton oldest rivalry in the states. And in the fledgling NFL. Google it sometime.
George Halas and Paul Brown coached there. O H I O!
Urban Meyer stated " this years team, is the fastest team I've ever coached' They're only 6 returning starters from last year. This is one helluva statement from a Coach that won championships at Florida and OSU.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on August 23, 2016, 07:03:30 PM
I forgot to mention the AP ranked the greatest Football Teams since 1936. The AP as many of you know, has ranked football longer then anyone. Before the BCS and during the AP is still in business and was the standard.
The Number 1 Football Team of all time is.................The Ohio State University!
BTW Urban Meyer has a great Coaching career (he is an Ohio Boy) and coached under Earl Bruce. Many forget that the great Paul Brown led the Buckeyes to a National Championship as Coach at OSU in 1945.
The coaching tree in Ohio has the largest of any state of Coaches that were successful in NCAA Football and the NFL. After all...the NFL was born here in Ohio! Football is King! Boy is born in Massillon Ohio, football
is placed in his crib at birth. It has been tradition for many many years. Massillon/Canton oldest rivalry in the states. And in the fledgling NFL. Google it sometime.
George Halas and Paul Brown coached there. O H I O!
Urban Meyer stated " this years team, is the fastest team I've ever coached' They're only 6 returning starters from last year. This is one helluva statement from a Coach that won championships at Florida and OSU.
That poll is skewed and biased. When considering the pinnacle of NCAA accomplishment, a National Championship, the top three in that poll fall short.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on August 23, 2016, 08:23:31 PM
Alabama picked #1 (the kiss of death) by AP :bhead but I am an Auburn fan. Oh well, GO SEC :D Ram
I predict they'll fall to number 4 or 5 in the polls just before mid season, the press will poohpooh them as over-rated, then they'll claw their way back to number 2 or 3 and somehow come out on top, again. When you're coached as well as they are, you can come back. Unlike those teams that have 1 or 2 standouts and/or a lackluster coaching staff.
Tide fan since '58.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on August 24, 2016, 03:10:20 PM
When you're coached as well as they are, you can come back.
And they always have an enormous amount of talent on the team. And, they are poisonous! ;)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on August 24, 2016, 03:45:58 PM
i know its a long ways away but look at Ohio States class next year
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 03, 2016, 02:58:28 PM
Who the hell is Chris Evans?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 03, 2016, 03:02:03 PM
Man I thought Houston would give Oklahoma a game but not win wonder what this means for Big Game Bob.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 03, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
OSU did what it was supposed to do. 77 - 10 over BG, a MAC school. JT Barrett, threw 6 tds and ran for one. OSU had over 450 yards of offense at halftime.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on September 03, 2016, 06:01:32 PM
OSU did what it was supposed to do. 77 - 10 over BG, a MAC school. JT Barrett, threw 6 tds and ran for one. OSU had over 450 yards of offense at halftime.
and now Wiskey held on to beat LSU, hopefully the B1G can make some noise this year. i live in Georgia and I am so sick of Team SEC!. There is no Team B1G but I can't but love when we beat an SEC school. There is a reason for this in that the SEC has been so damn awesome but I would love to see some challengers to the best conference in the land title(which undoubtedly the SEC is).
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 03, 2016, 06:09:26 PM
The University of Oklahoma versus the team that plays in a toilet bowl is looking like a good game. It will be all or nothing for OU.
ps does urban Meyer weiner even coach or does he just talk in his office?
that Houston win put a lot of pressure on every big conference team. How can you take a one loss power conference team over Houston now: especially if Oklahoma wins the Big 12?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 03, 2016, 07:18:16 PM
Tom Herman was offensive coordinator for Ohio State when OSU won the national title. Another example of BIG Coaches being successful and getting an opportunity to be head coaches elsewhere.
Just ask the SEC. They have enough BIG Coaches. Someone had to teach those southern boys how to play football ;)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 03, 2016, 11:17:22 PM
Hmm. Two upsets already in the top 10: Houston over Oklahoma and Wisconsin over LSU. And Alabama looking like a steam roller.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: rpm on September 04, 2016, 05:08:15 AM
that Houston win put a lot of pressure on every big conference team. How can you take a one loss power conference team over Houston now: especially if Oklahoma wins the Big 12?
Land Thieves ain't winning squat. (http://cdn.shaggytexas.com/board/images/smilies/hookem.gif)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on September 04, 2016, 05:47:40 AM
Well my Aggies won.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on September 04, 2016, 06:26:37 AM
Wisconsin in Lambeau is almost cheating. Magic in the air, that wants to win. :noid wtg Wisconsin! Great game!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: rpm on September 04, 2016, 08:53:38 AM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Becinhu on September 06, 2016, 02:32:46 PM
The Texas-notre dame game was a joy to watch. I'm not a fan of either team but that game had me glued to the tv. Game of the year candidate even though it's week one.
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Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 06, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
The Texas-notre dame game was a joy to watch. I'm not a fan of either team but that game had me glued to the tv. Game of the year candidate even though it's week one.
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when ND blocked the extra point and returned it for 2 I thought it was games over for Texas, I think Texas teams of the past few years would have rolle dover at that point but that little freshman QB they have has some fire in him. You could see it in his eyes when they put the big dude in at qb the freshman wanted to be in, to be 'the man', but I thnk texas made the right choice in that situation hard to stop a back field that big.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: icepac on September 06, 2016, 11:33:28 PM
That florida state game was crazy.
Ole Miss had them way down and a rookie in his first start at quarterback took a big hit to deliver a touchdown which began the comeback.
Florida State also had a great returner.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on September 09, 2016, 04:55:44 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: shotgunneeley on September 10, 2016, 10:30:27 PM
Arkansas put one over on TCU tonight in 2OT. We held strong for most of the game until the 4th quarter, then things got hairy in a hurry. All set it up for a wild slugfest of an ending! Every time I watch us play it is a complete roller coaster ride of emotions, always a fun time to enjoy.
Hogs win 41-38
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 10, 2016, 10:43:13 PM
Arkansas put one over on TCU tonight in 2OT. We held strong for most of the game until the 4th quarter, then things got hairy in a hurry. All set it up for a wild slugfest of an ending! Every time I watch us play it is a complete roller coaster ride of emotions, always a fun time to enjoy.
Hogs win 41-38
watched the entire game. Most entertaining game of the day.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on September 11, 2016, 07:16:52 AM
A&M played the guys down the road, PVA&M. Why that was ever setup I'll never know.
A&M 67 PVA&M 0
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MiloMorai on September 11, 2016, 08:55:18 AM
There was several lopsided games Shuffler tho that was the worst.
to many to list so, https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=college+football
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on September 11, 2016, 09:13:35 AM
Chips Win!
oak st. qb and most likely coaching staff, boofed wasting 4 seconds at the end of the game. :bhead
A Nice hailmary, lateral, foot race! wow!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 12, 2016, 01:39:47 AM
That was a heck of a game -- Central Michigan vs. Oklahoma State.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on September 12, 2016, 08:08:40 AM
unrelated to College football, but still news....
NFL BREAKING NEWS: Tony Romo has sustained 5 broken bones, 4 bruises and a concussion while sitting on the bench during the first half of Sunday's opener.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 12, 2016, 05:04:16 PM
That was a heck of a game -- Central Michigan vs. Oklahoma State.
Man, Central Michigan got away with one there bit crews(the MAC guys on the field and Big 12 relay crew) got suspended for that last call.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on September 12, 2016, 06:05:42 PM
But Michigan played hard and deserved the win. Oklahoma did not get the job done. Had they then one TD would not have made a difference.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 12, 2016, 06:57:03 PM
It was super entertaining as a game -- awesome plays in abundance.
I feel bad for the refs, since they got half of the complicated call correct (it was intentional grounding) -- and having read the rule, it is complicated legalese, not the easiest to interpret.
It would suck being a ref. If you are 100% perfect, that's acceptable. Anything less, and you get screamed at. There is no upside of exceeding expectations.
It's like running AH scenarios. :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on September 13, 2016, 12:03:41 PM
:D
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on September 18, 2016, 08:31:41 AM
Well, that was week 3. Nothing to see here, move along.
:x
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 18, 2016, 09:39:56 AM
That really depends on what team(s) you pull for:)
Nailbiter with the Tide/Rebel matchup. Bama down 24-3 and finds a way to win. Total of 91 points scored and over 1000 yards of offense.
I think everyone will know who Lamar Jackson is after Yestersay. The red birds are no joke.
Oklahoma goes down, TaM is looking to shake it up after several poor seasons in the SEC.
Longhorn fans are scratching their heads after losing to a team that has given up tons of yards to running backs.
It was a good week three.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 18, 2016, 09:54:57 AM
Fun week 3. Lot's of good football to watch. BIG won three impressive games against ranked opponents. Michigan State went to South Bend and beat the Irish.
Ohio State went to Oklahoma and the kids (only 6 returning starters from last year) thumped Oklahoma.
Nebraska stayed in Lincoln and beat Oregon. Along with Wisconsin beating LSU the BIG has had early season success.
BTW the BIG no longer schedules FBS teams. Long season to go and...........Louisville! Wow! Houston looks great also.
Alabama had a nice comeback. Only thing I would be concerned about is they gave up 43 points.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on September 18, 2016, 11:31:50 AM
Cal should have had 7 more on Texas but the RB was way in the clear and dropped the ball before crossing the goal line.
OU runner did the same and they counted his as a TD.
TAMU punter was run into and they did not flag the infraction. On playback a ref was looking straight at it.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on September 18, 2016, 02:07:57 PM
Sorry, Sooners. Our team was just too #basic for you guys. Better luck next year maybe?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 18, 2016, 02:15:01 PM
Fun week 3. Lot's of good football to watch. BIG won three impressive games against ranked opponents. Michigan State went to South Bend and beat the Irish.
Ohio State went to Oklahoma and the kids (only 6 returning starters from last year) thumped Oklahoma.
Nebraska stayed in Lincoln and beat Oregon. Along with Wisconsin beating LSU the BIG has had early season success.
BTW the BIG no longer schedules FBS teams. Long season to go and...........Louisville! Wow! Houston looks great also.
Alabama had a nice comeback. Only thing I would be concerned about is they gave up 43 points.
Louisville was the biggest surprise, well to some. I watched them last weekend and was impressed with Jackson, but unsure if they were good enough to take down FSU. I was impressed. My dad is a Florida grad. Watching the game with me yesterday he became a cardinal fan if only for 60'minutes LOL.
As for Bama allowing 43 points. Takes into consideration the Rebel offense led by Kelly is pretty darn good. Most importantly to me, Bama found a way to win, and showed grit.
This season is starting out good for ALL whom love CFB.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 18, 2016, 02:19:04 PM
BYW Hajo - was listening to College scoreboard on Syrius on the way to church this morning. Coach Holtz is calling for the tide and the buckeyes in the CFP. Little early for that, but shows you where the talking heads are. I think he just wants to see Saban lose to Meyer after that whooping Meyer took from him in the SEC championship a few years ago.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: branch37 on September 18, 2016, 02:22:46 PM
I never will understand why everyone gets so shocked and amazed at the youngsters when Oklahoma gets beat every year. I've been a die hard Oklahoma fan my whole life but I can admit that they are terribly overrated every year. It has to be a money thing.
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Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: rpm on September 18, 2016, 02:58:26 PM
NFL BREAKING NEWS: Tony Romo has sustained 5 broken bones, 4 bruises and a concussion while sitting on the bench during the first half of Sunday's opener.
Ha! Joke's on you Hawkboy. He did that getting out of bed before the game. On a side note, take care of my man Boykin. He's your future Franchise QB.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 18, 2016, 11:59:38 PM
I never will understand why everyone gets so shocked and amazed at the youngsters when Oklahoma gets beat every year. I've been a die hard Oklahoma fan my whole life but I can admit that they are terribly overrated every year. It has to be a money thing.
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They are quit a good team usually, though. Getting into the CFP last year was no small accomplishment. :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 19, 2016, 01:49:52 AM
BYW Hajo - was listening to College scoreboard on Syrius on the way to church this morning. Coach Holtz is calling for the tide and the buckeyes in the CFP. Little early for that, but shows you where the talking heads are. I think he just wants to see Saban lose to Meyer after that whooping Meyer took from him in the SEC championship a few years ago.
Ammo that would be a great matchup. Long way to go yet. The season is young. BTW Holtz is a former Ohio State coach. Learned his trade under Woody. He's also from Ohio.
Ohio State is the youngest team in College Football Playoff system ( I think there are 115 schools in the CFP.) They're bound to show that once in awhile.
I don't place much credibility in what the talking heads say. They have a Dog in the hunt usually. It's settled on the field, not by flapping lips as the backup QB of the Sooners found out.
He came out publicly that OSUs defense is just basic, and the Oklahoma QB would light them up. Suggestion, they should all shut their mouths and just play.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: branch37 on September 19, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
Most of the time a basic well disciplined defense with sound fundamentals will crush an offense like Oklahomas. I have no idea why all the "experts" think baker mayfield is such a great qb. Sure he's talented but he has no discipline. He makes poor decisions repeatedly as we saw Saturday. Letting Trevor knight go was one of the biggest mistakes stoops has made in a long time.
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Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 19, 2016, 08:04:35 PM
I heard something I thought I'd never hear from Paul Finebaum on ESPNs' College football Live. "The Big Ten is the best conference in college football." (this year)
He also said that if the youngsters on the Ohio State Team keep on improving at the rate the are, they will be scary. As I said in previous post. Take both statements with a grain
of salt. We're only 3 games into the season. Very early to be saying that.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 19, 2016, 08:25:53 PM
And it is Paul Finebaum. He is right 50% of the time, like a broken clock:)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 24, 2016, 04:07:16 PM
Week four is a step in deciding who is and who's not. Bama is clearly not going to make a mistake this week, securing the #1 spot for seven more days
USC.. Oh my how the mighty have fallen
Butch Jones may be looking for another job very soon... later.. Malzahn secures more time as the HC at Auburn despite weakness.
The Gator's D is for real.
The Spartan's are wannabes
Ole Miss is still the second best team in the SEC
Clemson still fighting the good fight
Will the Aggies challenge Ole Miss for the second spot in the SEC West.. MTF? Promising game tonight
I would love to say more about the Big 10, but there is little to say.. MTF in week five
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on September 24, 2016, 06:48:58 PM
Ammo did you forget about LSU losing to the big 10? they was a favorite to win it this year you cant say they dont have talent they do. Notre Dame lost to the big 10 aswell they are also a good team. and the buckeyes went into norman and knocked the sooners off with thier season on the line i dont think the big ten is a joke by a long shot. dont over look the Buckeyes just remember that 85 yard run through the heart of the south ;)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 24, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
Wisconsin's win today is a huge one. They are looking impressive.
I'm looking forward to next week's Michigan / Wisconsin game.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on September 24, 2016, 09:02:03 PM
Ammo did you forget about LSU losing to the big 10? they was a favorite to win it this year you cant say they dont have talent they do. Notre Dame lost to the big 10 aswell they are also a good team. and the buckeyes went into norman and knocked the sooners off with thier season on the line i dont think the big ten is a joke by a long shot. dont over look the Buckeyes just remember that 85 yard run through the heart of the south ;)
LSU is nowhere near good right now.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 24, 2016, 10:47:02 PM
Week four is a step in deciding who is and who's not. Bama is clearly not going to make a mistake this week, securing the #1 spot for seven more days
Butch Jones may be looking for another job very soon... later..
The Gator's D is for real.
Uhh. No. Sorry about these two observations.
Week 2. 31 consecutive points scored in the 2nd half. Week 4. 35 consecutive points scored in the 2nd half.
They've been late starters this season and I recall MANY UM/ND/MSU/host of others who have had seasons like this. Some need that "kick in the keyster" halftime speech to ignite a fire. But I don't think it happened this week in the Peyton Manning Locker Room Complex. Dropped passes hindered them in the 1st half. They were finally focused when the 3rd Quarter began.
Butch is going nowhere, much to the chagrin of "Walmart Vols "fans". Butch has begun reaching outlying states that Fulmer was pulling from. Which was the key to their revival, after Monte Kiffin and his long gone pal Mike Hamilton hijacked the program from Fulmer. This after Dickey retired a year prior.
As for Florida's D, they lost. So I would call it a wash, as the Vols D made key stops in key moments as well.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BaldEagl on September 25, 2016, 01:41:41 AM
Happened to catch the Vols/Gators game today. HUGE comeback for the Vols.
But... Gophers 3-0. Go Gophers!
Vikings 2-0... Go Vikings!
Oh... and I feel sorry for you guys who only have home college teams to root for.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 25, 2016, 02:18:16 AM
Week 2. 31 consecutive points scored in the 2nd half. Week 4. 35 consecutive points scored in the 2nd half.
They've been late starters this season and I recall MANY UM/ND/MSU/host of others who have had seasons like this. Some need that "kick in the keyster" halftime speech to ignite a fire. But I don't think it happened this week in the Peyton Manning Locker Room Complex. Dropped passes hindered them in the 1st half. They were finally focused when the 3rd Quarter began.
Butch is going nowhere, much to the chagrin of "Walmart Vols "fans". Butch has begun reaching outlying states that Fulmer was pulling from. Which was the key to their revival, after Monte Kiffin and his long gone pal Mike Hamilton hijacked the program from Fulmer. This after Dickey retired a year prior.
As for Florida's D, they lost. So I would call it a wash, as the Vols D made key stops in key moments as well.
Jay I watched the Vols and Gators play. The Vols impressed me Florida did not. I heard one of the talking heads on ESPN make disparaging remarks about the Vols offensive line. They played very well
and the Vols defense did the job. I didn't see much to impress me about what the talking heads described as a superior Florida D line. The Vols will get better as the season progresses. Looking forward to the next Vols game. I'll be watching.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 25, 2016, 02:38:18 AM
I post d prematurely - silly me. That's what a couple of IPAs will do.
Tennessee found a way to win and look tough enough to win the SEC east. GA went down in embarrassing manner. FLA - overrated it seems.
The Badgers looked really good against Sparty. I think the buckeyes are the team to beat in the conference still.
Bama is still the team to beat and Ole Miss's romping of GA makes them look even better.
ND, USC, what's next for them? I doubt Les Miles will be coaching a LS Who next season.
Ever since the Reggie Bush debacle at USC the problem has gone down hill, as it should. Pete Carroll is in trouble again with wrong doings in Seattle. Where ever he has gone problems soon crop up.
ND will never be the program it once was. I admire their academic standards but imho they will no longer be a player in the national championship. Not enough athletes. The good ones go to Bama ,OSU etc.
If they wish to play pro football all the recruits have to do is look at the drafts and see where the Pro Football players come from. ND has a few good ones but mostly linemen. Not many good skill position
players go to ND or USC anymore. ND and USC will probably go to the Soup Bowl for the holiday season Bowl games. Pity. They both were very good at one time.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 25, 2016, 01:46:28 PM
Schools that are top-tier academically can have good football teams. Out of the top 50 schools in the world (ranked by the Times Higher Education World University Rankings, not one of the crappy ones like USA Today), here are schools that have now or have in the recent past had excellent football programs with the ranking number:
Caltech (just kidding) #3 Stanford #10 Cal #14 UCLA #21 Michigan #25 Washington #45 Wisconsin #50 Texas
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on September 25, 2016, 04:08:01 PM
Schools that are top-tier academically can have good football teams. Out of the top 50 schools in the world (ranked by the Times Higher Education World University Rankings, not one of the crappy ones like USA Today), here are schools that have now or have in the recent past had excellent football programs with the ranking number:
Caltech (just kidding) #3 Stanford #10 Cal #14 UCLA #21 Michigan #25 Washington #45 Wisconsin #50 Texas
Times? Is that NYTimes? That is hardly more than a trash mag today.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: j500ss on September 25, 2016, 05:26:32 PM
Seems LSU has decided they need change....... Miles and the offensive coordinator canned today.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 25, 2016, 07:33:38 PM
Seems LSU has decided they need change....... Miles and the offensive coordinator canned today.
Everyone down here knew it was coming but I certainly thought LSU would wait till the end of the season. Ed Orgeron will be interim HC till they hire Art Briles (LOL)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on September 25, 2016, 07:55:28 PM
Les has a 78% win percentage before being fired at LSU. Now who does LSU think will do just as good, if not better than Les? Sounds like the proverbial nail in the coffin for LSU's football program. They'll slip back into mediocrity like they've always been before Saban coached there.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 25, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Times? Is that NYTimes? That is hardly more than a trash mag today.
I agree with you about the NY Times.
The Times Higher Education is not related to them at all. It is an organization and publication based in London whose business is information about universities. It's a leading such publication in the world.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 25, 2016, 08:26:41 PM
I'm with Plazus. It's ridiculous. If they did hire Briles (like Ammo talked about), they would do fine because Briles, too, is a great coach; but it would be very satisfying to see LSU fall flat on its face for some years to come.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on September 25, 2016, 09:00:13 PM
Notre Dame just fired its Defensive Coordinator and promoted the guy that was Purdue's defensive coordinator from 2013 to 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZL3ofreuQo
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 25, 2016, 09:21:37 PM
Les has a 78% win percentage before being fired at LSU. Now who does LSU think will do just as good, if not better than Les? Sounds like the proverbial nail in the coffin for LSU's football program. They'll slip back into mediocrity like they've always been before Saban coached there.
I am kind of thinking the same thing but you never know maybe they can find an up and coming coach, I dont think Herman would leave Houston when he's got them rolling along even if LSU has the money for them after buying out Miles' contract. Orgeron really wasnt that impressive at Ole Miss and I dont think he will be as successful as Les then again Saban wasnt that Great at MSU but got the ball rolling at LSU so who knows.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 25, 2016, 09:28:06 PM
I'm with Plazus. It's ridiculous. If they did hire Briles (like Ammo talked about), they would do fine because Briles, too, is a great coach; but it would be very satisfying to see LSU fall flat on its face for some years to come.
8 win seasons doesn't cut it with LSU MGMT and fanbase. If you are not competing for NCs, you are out after a while. Miles would not have lasted at Bama more than 4 years.
I wish the best for the man, but this is a tough business and you can't be buddy-buddy with the staff and players when they are not giving 100+%. That is what Miles did, and Mike Shula for that matter.
edit - meant to quote Brooke's Miles post but I failed..:)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 25, 2016, 09:55:22 PM
Very few teams compete repeatedly for national championships. It is exceedingly rare.
Also, in terms of national championships in the past 10 years, Les Miles is in 3rd place behind only Saban and Meyer.
I think that they fired a top-tier coach.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 25, 2016, 10:42:46 PM
Very few teams compete repeatedly for national championships. It is exceedingly rare.
Also, in terms of national championships in the past 10 years, Les Miles is in 3rd place behind only Saban and Meyer.
I think that they fired a top-tier coach.
To clarify Brooke, I agree it is rare to achieve a NC. What should a LSU program shoot for? What should a Michigan program strive for? Would a OSU, Michigan, MSU...USC be happy with an 8 win season and an invite to the cheddars bowl? I doubt that!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 25, 2016, 11:26:08 PM
Maybe some other team will benefit and hire Miles then?? Hey, he is what 65'ish and still prime? We will see.
There are lots of teams out there, and very few have coaches with his track record. I suppose it will depend on whether or not he wants to retire. He's a lot younger than our two presidential candidates. :D
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 25, 2016, 11:29:01 PM
There are lots of teams out there, and very few have coaches with his track record. I suppose it will depend on whether or not he wants to retire. He's a lot younger than our two presidential candidates. :D
You know exactly what I am saying. Let's just say for the moment, which team hires him?
in 2016, Les's team(s) have more NFL drafted players than any other school. He couldn't capitalize on that talent.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 25, 2016, 11:46:14 PM
To clarify Brooke, I agree it is rare to achieve a NC. What should a LSU program shoot for? What should a Michigan program strive for? Would a OSU, Michigan, MSU...USC be happy with an 8 win season and an invite to the cheddars bowl? I doubt that!
You are right -- they wouldn't be happy with 8-win seasons. But here are Miles' last 10 seasons. Only 2 of them are 8-win seasons. Only 4 of them are 8-9 win seasons.
2005 LSU 11–2, W Peach 2006 LSU 11–2, W Sugar 2007 LSU 12–2, W BCS NCG 2008 LSU 8–5, W Chick-fil-A 2009 LSU 9–4, L Capital One 2010 LSU 11–2, W Cotton 2011 LSU 13–1, L BCS NCG 2012 LSU 10–3, L Chick-fil-A 2013 LSU 10–3, W Outback 2014 LSU 8–5, L Music City 2015 LSU 9–3, W Texas
There is randomness in football as well as talent. The last time Miles had a couple back-to-back 8-9 win seasons (2008, 2009), the next four seasons were quite good, with one of those being playing for national championship.
Bo Schembechler and Lloyd Carr at Michigan had more 9-or-less win seasons as a percentage than Miles. Miles had a higher percentage of bowl wins than Bo or Carr.
If LSU doesn't get someone like Briles, it might go through a couple of coaches nowhere near as good as Miles before they get someone as good.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 25, 2016, 11:58:03 PM
You know exactly what I am saying. Let's just say for the moment, which team hires him?
I don't know which places. But I think there would be several places that would be glad to have him. He is one of the top-10 coaches; he is one of the top-10 recruiters; he has one of the top coaching records; he is a big name in football; he would bring a lot of attention to any program he goes to that would translate into media attention and money.
Michigan totally lucked out and got Harbaugh, and he's the perfect Michigan choice, but back when Harbaugh was not available, there were folks who thought it was crazy not to try for Miles. The reason why not had, it is rumored, more to do with some long-ago bad blood than ability.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 26, 2016, 12:08:21 AM
You are right -- they wouldn't be happy with 8-win seasons. But here are Miles' last 10 seasons. Only 2 of them are 8-win seasons. Only 4 of them are 8-9 win seasons.
2005 LSU 11–2, W Peach 2006 LSU 11–2, W Sugar 2007 LSU 12–2, W BCS NCG 2008 LSU 8–5, W Chick-fil-A 2009 LSU 9–4, L Capital One 2010 LSU 11–2, W Cotton 2011 LSU 13–1, L BCS NCG 2012 LSU 10–3, L Chick-fil-A 2013 LSU 10–3, W Outback 2014 LSU 8–5, L Music City 2015 LSU 9–3, W Texas
There is randomness in football as well as talent. The last time Miles had a couple back-to-back 8-9 win seasons (2008, 2009), the next four seasons were quite good, with one of those being playing for national championship.
Bo Schembechler and Lloyd Carr at Michigan had more 9-or-less win seasons as a percentage than Miles. Miles had a higher percentage of bowl wins than Bo or Carr.
If LSU doesn't get someone like Briles, it might go through a couple of coaches nowhere near as good as Miles before they get someone as good.
You gotta understand, the fact that Saban coaches at Bama eats at them. They beat Bama in the regular season and right or wrong, faced, and lost, to Bama in the NCG is still on their minds. It's not altogether about the math, it is about who you are on a given day
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 26, 2016, 08:49:25 AM
When the Alumni aren't pleased the Coach is gone. It's more a matter of money then anything else. Biggest donors to any college are the alumni.
Football brings in more money to Colleges then anything else. Football mostly subsidizes other sports programs like swimming, women's volleyball etc.
When a football program starts bringing in less money common sense goes out the window. They don't have to be losing money just brining in fewer dollars.
Another fact the Alumni have the biggest influence on hiring/firing a Coach. That doesn't mean that the Alumni by any stretch are thinking rationally.
Their pride is temporarily taking a hit and it becomes emotional instead of rational. It's what have you done for me lately. Unless you're Saban or Meyer
your coaching job will be temporary unless you are EXTREMELY successful. Right now they are the only two Coaches whose job is secure.
Tom Hermann would be my choice at LSU. He was Meyers offensive Coach at OSU, which enabled him to get the job at Houston. He is going to be a very good Coach where ever he goes.
Bank on it!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 26, 2016, 09:21:12 AM
If you go over to tigerdroppings.com, the bet is on Herman. I wouldn't bet against you Hajo:)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on September 26, 2016, 09:25:40 AM
How many more losing seasons will the buckeyes sit around? If urban does not make the final four soon he will be taking tough questions.
Just saying. You know everyone is jacked up, and you know pride comes before the fall.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on September 26, 2016, 01:14:58 PM
Urban Meyer isn't going anywhere. Food for thought, Bo never won a NC and was around 5-12 in bowls, if memory serves me correctly. He won Big 10 championships and the fanbase/boosters/alumni were content with it.
Urban will remain there a while because like Bo, as long as you are winning conference championships and beating Michigan, the fan base is happy. Of course everyone wants a NC, but these two states are a different microcosm within college football.
LSU will soon see why they made a bad decision in letting Les Miles go.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on September 26, 2016, 01:28:52 PM
Time will tell. Osu must go to Wisconsin and MSU. also play Nebraska and Michigan.
Some good defense and some turnovers...next the clock is gone. Big Ten football.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 26, 2016, 01:52:43 PM
I don't know which places. But I think there would be several places that would be glad to have him. He is one of the top-10 coaches; he is one of the top-10 recruiters; he has one of the top coaching records; he is a big name in football; he would bring a lot of attention to any program he goes to that would translate into media attention and money.
Michigan totally lucked out and got Harbaugh, and he's the perfect Michigan choice, but back when Harbaugh was not available, there were folks who thought it was crazy not to try for Miles. The reason why not had, it is rumored, more to do with some long-ago bad blood than ability.
Mo's wife is what I heard.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on September 26, 2016, 04:17:27 PM
I personally despise Art Briles and would like to see the NCAA whack him with a show-cause penalty. While he is a great coach with regards to Xs and Os and playcalling, he does bring a bad reputation of running a corrupt program. Just look at the disaster that happened with Baylor over the offseason. Also his defenses sucked when they played against a competent, physical offense.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on September 26, 2016, 04:25:08 PM
Natcigg there is no question we got a tough road ahead and to top it off we are the youngest team in college football and that is scary considering how they have played so far. The silver bullet Defense is looking mighty dang good 7 interceptions in the first 3 games.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 26, 2016, 04:34:52 PM
Natcigg there is no question we got a tough road ahead and to top it off we are the youngest team in college football and that is scary considering how they have played so far. The silver bullet Defense is looking mighty dang good 7 interceptions in the first 3 games.
Also watching an Urban Meyer interview he stated this "this is the fastest team I have ever coached." That is saying a lot considering the teams he has coached.
The Buckeyes are young and I do hope they improve. Paul Finebaum said this about the young buckeyes "if they continue to improve at this pace, they will be downright scary."
We shall see. They played pretty well in Camp Randall the last time they were there against a vaunted Wisconsin defense and with a third string QB. We shall see.
Wisconsin had an All-American running back at the time and he barely made the line of scrimmage. Anything we say at this time is pure conjecture.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 26, 2016, 04:52:35 PM
OK, LSU should get Herman, and Houston can then get Les Miles. :)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 27, 2016, 07:47:42 PM
Can lSU even afford to buy out Miles and get Herman? I'm just gonna though out PJ Fleck as a young up and comer who may get a interview, maybe.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 27, 2016, 07:50:16 PM
Can lSU even afford to buy out Miles and get Herman? I'm just gonna though out PJ Fleck as a young up and comer who may get a interview, maybe.
Yea, they can do that. The LSU program doesn't have a bottomless pit of resources, but it is wealthy. You can be assured they would not have let Les Miles go if otherwise.
For that matter, I have it from a good source the LSU AD has attempted to contact Nick Saban! Imagine what that would cost to pry him away from Alabama.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 27, 2016, 09:08:22 PM
At Sabans age close to retirement, I can't see him going to LSU after working so hard to build the Bama program.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 27, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
At Sabans age close to retirement, I can't see him going to LSU after working so hard to build the Bama program.
You are right, but you can't blame them for throwing it out there.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on September 28, 2016, 08:41:20 AM
Saban does like to hire ex-head coaches on his assistant coaching staff. I can see it being perfectly reasonable for him to hire Les Miles on his staff to coach for a year or two as an assistant or coordinator.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on September 28, 2016, 08:44:46 AM
Saban does like to hire ex-head coaches on his assistant coaching staff. I can see it being perfectly reasonable for him to hire Les Miles on his staff to coach for a year or two as an assistant or coordinator.
If Nick hires Les it won't be to make him their offensive coordinator for sure. :D
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 28, 2016, 08:56:15 AM
If Nick hires Les it won't be to make him their offensive coordinator for sure. :D
Les is a great recruiter though... Imagine how well he would do for a Bama program that already recruits extremely well.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on September 28, 2016, 08:59:48 AM
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/72020785.jpg)
Seriously, though. What does that tell up and coming head coaches about the college football landscape? The Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechlers, and Frank Beamers of the world are a thing of the past. It's all National Championship or bust these days.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 28, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
What happened to Miles at LSU is not indicative of the entire college football landscape. Anyone that has watched LSU football over the years knows Les is not always a good game coach. He has notoriously micromanaged his OC on play calling; he has made many clock management mistakes; and failed to adjust to other team's as the game flowed.
LSU's roster is full of top talent and their win% shows that. But when you don't close the deal against good programs with all that talent, this indicates there is a coaching problem.
Les's players love him. He is a good man that truly cares about the players and students. He is super nice to them, encouraging to them when they make mistakes, and that is too a fault. Sometimes, a buttocks chewing is in order. Les isn't built that way.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 01, 2016, 09:17:59 AM
HUSKIES! Wow, what a rout! Wife had tickets at a good price since she is alumni.
After months of hype surrounding a possible breakout performance for Washington (5-0, 2-0 Pac-12), the 10th-ranked Huskies showed they were ready for their return to the national stage.
And they did it emphatically, handing No. 7 Stanford (3-1, 2-1) its worst loss since a 41-3 setback against Arizona State in 2007.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 01, 2016, 11:02:32 AM
Also watching an Urban Meyer interview he stated this "this is the fastest team I have ever coached." That is saying a lot considering the teams he has coached.
The Buckeyes are young and I do hope they improve. Paul Finebaum said this about the young buckeyes "if they continue to improve at this pace, they will be downright scary."
We shall see. They played pretty well in Camp Randall the last time they were there against a vaunted Wisconsin defense and with a third string QB. We shall see.
Wisconsin had an All-American running back at the time and he barely made the line of scrimmage. Anything we say at this time is pure conjecture.
The vet qb is worth gold. Wrs look good. U know the o line can push. Yes, I see real speed in the backfield. All that spells points.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 01, 2016, 12:28:36 PM
Go, Huskies! Man, that was impressive.
Rip, you got to see it live, eh? Awesome! :aok
Now, I'm looking forward to the Michigan / Wisconsin game and hoping Michigan does well with such a tough opponent.
I was on TV! Okay, nosebleed, camera panned my section...;)
Browning, starting as a freshman last year was incredible. This year he play QB like a veteran. Great last name too. Wish we had a WR named Remington..."Browning to Remington! BOOM! TD!"
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 01, 2016, 03:24:22 PM
The Ohio State University beat Rutgers today (Rutgers is the oldest college football program in the country) 58 to 0.
Some facts to ponder that may mean nothing to some, or are valid to others.
Urban Meyers record at OSU is 59 and 4 in his fifth year. The OSU Defense has allowed only TWO touchdowns all year. The others scored were by kick returns and interception. None while the Defense was on the field. The defense only gave up 33 yds. rushing to Rutgers. OSU did not punt the ball once today. JT Barett threw four more touchdowns today......earlier this year he threw seven in a game. The OSU Offense had 669 yards of offense today..........and. Since Urban Meyer has been Coach they have not lost a regularly scheduled away game....evah!
It's early but the youngsters playing (only 6 returning starters from last year) seem to be learning at a quick pace. Fun to watch the kids grow!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: j500ss on October 01, 2016, 06:26:03 PM
OSU schedule favors them to wing the BIG10, They travel to Camp Randall in a couple weeks, but I don't see them losing. After that they basically coast until the MSU game and then Michigan.
The Badgers did not play clean ball today, and only lose by 1 TD. I think OSU is certainly the team to beat in the BIG10.
Time will tell.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MiloMorai on October 01, 2016, 06:47:07 PM
Those Vols. :x 5 - 0
Three comeback wins in a row.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 01, 2016, 06:56:18 PM
OSU schedule favors them to wing the BIG10, They travel to Camp Randall in a couple weeks, but I don't see them losing. After that they basically coast until the MSU game and then Michigan.
The Badgers did not play clean ball today, and only lose by 1 TD. I think OSU is certainly the team to beat in the BIG10.
Time will tell.
The Badgers D is legit, if they can get a running game going to help their young QB they can be a serious contender for a playoff spot(if the SEC or B!G gets 2 teams in which depends on the PAC and ACC consuming each other and Wisconsin doesn't lose any more games they have OSU in 2 weeks I think). I am already penciling in the Badgers to win the West would love to see a rematch with Michigan in the championship game, but OSU is looking really good and could be a rematch there too. I am soo happy to see the Washington hype was real. Tennessee continues to give their fans grey hair last year they had some heartbreakers this year they are giving heartbreaks out, I think they will win the East, they apparently just don't like to win big or easy. Say good bye to FSU having a shot this year the Louisville loss was bad but manageable but I dont think UNC is going to make much more noise this year. Rip did you boat into Washington? Always thought the idea of a floating tailgate was awesome.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 01, 2016, 07:14:56 PM
lol this is great, people dislike OSU but man people just hate Michigan: http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-michigan-wolverines-are-back-ugh-1475103687
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 01, 2016, 07:45:13 PM
Watched the Washington game last night. Great game to watch! And I was rooting for Washington. Watched a lot of games today on ESPN Goal line.
Although I also root for Tenn. in the SEC they were lucky to win today. Minnesota and Penn State was a great game to watch also! I watched Kentucky kick a
field goal to take the early lead over Alabama and said to myself "welp.......that's all they're going to score." Kentucky will be demolished. Watched the Michigan Wisconsin
game also. I did not witness either team having great athletes. It was a good game by both well Coached teams. Maybe it's just me I didn't notice any speed on either team.
Oklahoma beat Texas. I don't know what to read into that. Stanford is lacking athletes big time. I see nothing spectacular out of the PAC12. Washington reminds me of Wisconsin,
which isn't bad. PAC12 won't have a representative in the playoffs methinks. Unfortunate that ever since Pete Carroll ruined the USC program USC has disappeared.
PAC12 at one time was strong. It's a pity that it was once a great conference and now it has disappeared. Oregon was and is only flash and dazzle. They play a physical opponent they lose.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on October 01, 2016, 09:38:27 PM
The key to beating Tennessee is to never get the lead on them....
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 02, 2016, 01:24:35 AM
I didn't miss it. That's one. I didn't see a lot from Michigan's offense against a slower Wisconsin defense. Sure Wisconsin is tough. They are big upfront, well disciplined but unfortunately slow.
Hey Brooke I love the BIG but seriously only 14 points? The game in Columbus is going to be great! Can't wait and OSU has to travel to Wisconsin also. OSU goes to Michigan State also.
The least amount of points the Buckeyes have scored is 45 points. The most 70 something. Fun watching Louisville and Clemson tonight also. Whatever anyone says it's a long season.
Michigan is due though. What......they haven't beaten the Buckeyes in how long? It's just good to see the BIG as a conference as a whole gain respect. If it wasn't for OSU winning a few
national titles since 2000 the BIG would be completely ignored and with good reason. Ohio State has made other BIG teams improve, or go home. Glad they chose to improve.
BTW.......if history means anything the last time Wisconsin played OSU, and Wisconsin had a fantastic running back (all-American and 3rd ranked defense in the country) OSU won 59 to 0
for the BIG Championship with the third string QB after Braxton Miller was hurt and JT broke his ankle. Next game they beat Alabama, then Oregon. Meyer is a great Coach. The BIG is improving and I like the competition.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 02, 2016, 11:19:56 AM
Yes, yes . . . we all know that Ohio State is a good team. That is why they are ranked #2 currently. I'm not arguing with that.
However, you posted that you didn't witness either Michigan or Wisconsin having any great athletes.
Michigan has plenty of them on defense, which you saw shutting down Wisconsin's offense: Jabrill Peppers (well known as a top athlete), Jourdan Lewis and Channing Stribling (doing man-to-man coverage all night with their speed, and Lewis with what will probably be the year's most-impressive interception), Rashan Gary (2016's #1 recruit), Taco Charlton, and others. Nope, you didn't see a lot of Michigan's athletic talent on offense, but you did at least a few guys make some great plays, like Darboh, Evans, and Smith.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Reaper90 on October 02, 2016, 11:24:05 AM
Respectfully disagree. Strength of schedule is mostly a relative thing anyways. Remember that OSU's roster is one of the most inexperienced rosters in all of D1 college football right now. If OSU had a lot of veteran starters returning from last year, then our schedule would look easier.
At Oklahoma. At Wisconsin. At Michigan State. At Penn State. Along with other prime-time match-ups including Nebraska and Michigan at home. Our schedule certainly isn't impossible to win in, but not a cake walk either.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 03, 2016, 12:33:33 AM
Yes, yes . . . we all know that Ohio State is a good team. That is why they are ranked #2 currently. I'm not arguing with that.
However, you posted that you didn't witness either Michigan or Wisconsin having any great athletes.
Michigan has plenty of them on defense, which you saw shutting down Wisconsin's offense: Jabrill Peppers (well known as a top athlete), Jourdan Lewis and Channing Stribling (doing man-to-man coverage all night with their speed, and Lewis with what will probably be the year's most-impressive interception), Rashan Gary (2016's #1 recruit), Taco Charlton, and others. Nope, you didn't see a lot of Michigan's athletic talent on offense, but you did at least a few guys make some great plays, like Darboh, Evans, and Smith.
Offense speed what about Jehu and Chris Evans I think Florida got enough of the Speed on offense last year (https://www.google.com/search?q=jehu+chesson+destroys+hargreaves&rlz=1C1AVNG_enUS656US662&biw=2133&bih=1100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwig16PR873PAhVCOyYKHSYqDEcQ_AUICCgD&dpr=0.9#imgrc=70fOTZ21Atm_ZM%3A)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 03, 2016, 09:28:56 AM
Darboh on the fly! Touchdown!
That was good to see.
The fastest guy is chesson. I think coach Jim might be third fastest. But that depends on the wind direction when they race. The post practice race always goes to chesson.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 03, 2016, 09:36:48 AM
Guys I'm not trying to start a peeing war. Michigan is very good and so is Wisconsin. Michigan State is good and can be trouble to anyone. OSU IS the youngest team in the FBS and playoff series.
There are 44 players on the roster this year who will be playing for the first time. Mistakes will be made for sure which could put Ohio State out of contention. Growing and learning the key.
Remember OSU lost to Va. Tech the year they won the first playoff championship. Anything can happen. I just love college football. I just like Pro Football, big difference between love and like.
I have just presented facts. I like the situation in the BIG this year as being described by SEC talking heads as maybe the best college football conference. About time respect is earned by the BIG.
Fact: that respect is possible because The Ohio State University made it happen. OSU forced other BIG schools to get better and hire better coaches such as at Michigan State, Michigan, Penn State
and a few others. OSU was carrying the torch alone. There wasn't a team in the BIG that had National Championship capabilities. It used to be Michigan and Ohio State then unfortunately it was
only Ohio State. Now during Bowl Season the nation no longer laughs at the BIGs' bowl record. We win more then we lose. About dam time dontcha' think? You can thank OSU for that.
That's a fact Jack! ;)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 03, 2016, 09:43:23 AM
I wish I had one of those funny little emoticons of a dude eating popcorn as I watch all you BIG fans discuss college football greatness within your conference.
//Signed//
Alabama Fan
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on October 03, 2016, 09:50:15 AM
There were some great games on and TAMU won without 4 key players. All is good.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 03, 2016, 09:56:35 AM
MSU has held a hand over osu in the less-Michigan Era. Without any ncaa sanctions. Don't forget about MSU, like the buckeyes seem 2.
Go Green, Eat ohio! :ahand
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: j500ss on October 03, 2016, 10:40:37 AM
I wish I had one of those funny little emoticons of a dude eating popcorn as I watch all you BIG fans discuss college football greatness within your conference.
//Signed//
Alabama Fan
For 7+ million a year, Nick better damn well be winning, and with 7 of the top 15 highest paid coaches in the country in the SEC, the conference better be REALLY good.
Michigan is probably at least 1-2 years out before even being considered a threat, OSU could be this year, but probably realistically more like next year.
These things tend to run in cycles, and right now the SEC schools have what seem to be bottomless bank accounts.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 03, 2016, 10:57:00 AM
For 7+ million a year, Nick better damn well be winning, and with 7 of the top 15 highest paid coaches in the country in the SEC, the conference better be REALLY good.
Michigan is probably at least 1-2 years out before even being considered a threat, OSU could be this year, but probably realistically more like next year.
These things tend to run in cycles, and right now the SEC schools have what seem to be bottomless bank accounts.
In Nick's case, success drive's the money, not the other way around. I imagine if given the chance, many schools would dole out the cash to have him. What's Urban Meyer's salary these days? $6.5M?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: j500ss on October 03, 2016, 12:13:21 PM
Urban makes just under 6, Harbaugh on the other hand makes 7 mil.
I'd like to buy the " success drives the money" but the reality is in my mind that is wrong. I have a daughter who was a D1 athlete, and she was successful. At a school that necessarily was not in the sport she played.... ( yea it was a big 10 school )
I have first hand seen the disparity from program to program and conference to conference, and it exists in all sports, mens and womens.
It's college!! If you think the $$$$ spent does not play into buying success........ I know you are way smarter than that. Sadly I have seen it first hand.
Kids will go where the best coaches are, they will go to the school who has the newest facilities, and where the most $$$ are going to be spent on them. That is a fact sadly.
:salute
P.S. I'm not seeing anyone yet who is going to beat Bama anytime soon either.
I see it like this, I like a lot of teams out there, but I tend to like under dogs. Which right now has me really liking WI, even with the loss at MI ( which to lose by 7 at Ann Arbor ) is quite respectful.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 03, 2016, 12:24:15 PM
Good comments J500s.
The point I want to make about the Saban's in CFB, and there are very few, is an all round great coach recruits well to attain good talent, and previous success is a big factor, is a great game coach that adjusts to their opponent, and makes good decisions are expensive. It is what it is.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 03, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
Ohio State is 3-6 since 1970 vs all Pac 10 (now Pac 12) teams in the Rose Bowl. Just saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaying....
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 03, 2016, 12:43:01 PM
After SDSU lost this past Saturday, Bama currently holds the longest winning streak at 17. Hoping that streak continues to 23 and a playoff birth!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 03, 2016, 02:11:08 PM
Ohio State is 3-6 since 1970 vs all Pac 10 (now Pac 12) teams in the Rose Bowl. Just saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaying....
And who did OSU beat in 68 to win the championship? Ohio State has beat Oregon twice in the last 4 years. Or is it 5years? Don't remember but OSU has beaten them twice both Bowl games. OSU also beat Jake the Snake at Arizona...
in a bowl, while Arizona was celebrating a Victory while Germain was leading the Bucks down for the winning touch down. Every school wins. Part of the game. Someone has to lose.
I just love college football as a whole. All teams always have a chance. Kids play. And their enthusiasm is fantastic. Alabama is #1 no matter what. They are the Champs until someone beats them.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 03, 2016, 02:34:24 PM
3-6...that is, not a winning record in championship games since 1970. ;)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 03, 2016, 04:38:00 PM
Offense speed what about Jehu and Chris Evans I think Florida got enough of the Speed on offense last year
Absolutely. I was just responding to whose athleticism was shown in the Wisconsin game. Chesson, Butt, and others are also great athletes.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 03, 2016, 06:12:04 PM
Brooke........why don't we explain to these people the rivalry between Ohio and Michigan that started long before football. It started in the early 1800s'.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 03, 2016, 06:19:03 PM
ask the russians how that payment for alaska went.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 03, 2016, 06:23:32 PM
Brooke........why don't we explain to these people the rivalry between Ohio and Michigan that started long before football. It started in the early 1800s'.
Yep, even from before they were both states.
I wish the best for both Michigan and Ohio, though. My beloved midwest certainly can use it given how things have gone in recent times for places away from the two coasts.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 03, 2016, 07:05:22 PM
Brooke........why don't we explain to these people the rivalry between Ohio and Michigan that started long before football. It started in the early 1800s'.
I remember those times, I answered a call to fight the British. I didn't get promoted either!
However, some settlers in Alabama were developing the game of football about the same time and the rest is history.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 03, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
I wish the best for all football teams. They give me joy every week when I see them perform. Clemson Syracuse?? Best game I've seen this year. When all is said
and done it is not impossible for both of them to be finalists. Ohio State is young and I fear they will make mistakes in critical times. They could be left out!
Michigan has improved greatly since Harbaugh has arrived and don't count Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Michigan State out yet! Maryland is undefeated also.
Washington looked superior while beating Stanford. So many good teams to enjoy on Saturdays.
And Brooke the borders of Michigan were not the same as they are today. Michigan actually had Toledo within its' border. Michigan wanted Toledo as a port and so did Ohio.
At that time Ohio was a state and Michigan was just a territory. Since Ohio had representation in Congress they won out. There actually was a battle in that area and people actually
shot at one another over this. Thankfully no one is hurt. If I remember it was called the Battle of/for Toledo. It can be googled. To this day in the extreme northwest corner of
Ohio there are many who feel loyalty to Michigan. Thus the Battle of OSU and Michigan is the most intense of any rivalry to this day.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 04, 2016, 08:33:17 AM
before The Game there was The Trade. Ohio got the toledo river and Michigan got the largest iron and copper reserves, timber, and a place called the U.P..
That could of been the end of a war but it has been a while since 4th grade.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 08, 2016, 06:53:16 PM
If Tennessee wins this...
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: branch37 on October 08, 2016, 06:58:25 PM
Boomer Sooner
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Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 08, 2016, 11:10:52 PM
Well welcome to Michigan's 'Rival' list are you sure you really want to be on it? #fencethegarden lol Michigan had 600 yards of total offense Rutgers had 603 yards in PUNTING
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: puller on October 08, 2016, 11:20:14 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 08, 2016, 11:40:31 PM
Michigan looked awesome! The Vols were close but not close enough. Ohio State had a bad day, even though they won by 21 they looked less then great. Alabama vs. Arkansas intense.
Michigan State lost to BYU and ND lost to North Carolina State? Both these teams have been disappointments this year. Wonder how long the Coach has at Notre Dame. They have little patience in south Bend.
Biggest upset Houston loses to Navy!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 08, 2016, 11:43:09 PM
Yikes.
Navy beats Houston? BYU beats Michigan State, at Michigan State, and by a lot?
Washington puts up 70 (!) points against Oregon. Yow! Go, Huskies!
Also, Washington State is currently dominating Stanford.
And go, Jabrill Peppers! :aok (http://detroitcenter.umich.edu/sites/all/themes/detroitcenter/logo.png)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 08, 2016, 11:51:29 PM
Heh! Hajo and I were thinking a couple of the same things at the same time regarding Houston and MSU.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 09, 2016, 12:00:28 AM
They still looked very good. Indiana isn't a bad team.
I must say, every time I see Mike Webber making a big play or a touchdown, it makes me remember that he was originally a Michigan commit. :cry
I've seen OSU play Navy twice at the Shoe. If you're not ready to play defense against the triple option you are in trouble! It's an offense that few BCS Schools use and conversly encounter.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 09, 2016, 07:48:42 PM
Heh! Hajo and I were thinking a couple of the same things at the same time regarding Houston and MSU.
msu is/was missing key components to the defense; linebacker and defensive tackle. at a minimum the two best players on defense, and really its three if you consider the other linebacker that is hurt. also, the o-line has not been able to dominate like last season, with the loss of two key starters. Throw in a inexperienced quarterback that can not handle the pressure..... that's a failed offense and defense, and three strait losses. Ultimately, like most teams, a lack of depth has left them vulnerable to the injury and graduation bug.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 09, 2016, 07:52:44 PM
Bama has a tough matchup next week with Tennessee. Bama will be favored but expect Tennessee to be close or win.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on October 09, 2016, 11:22:42 PM
msu is/was missing key components to the defense; linebacker and defensive tackle. at a minimum the two best players on defense, and really its three if you consider the other linebacker that is hurt. also, the o-line has not been able to dominate like last season, with the loss of two key starters. Throw in a inexperienced quarterback that can not handle the pressure..... that's a failed offense and defense, and three strait losses. Ultimately, like most teams, a lack of depth has left them vulnerable to the injury and graduation bug.
I agree......lack of depth is a killer. Unfortunate it happens. D'Antonio is a very good Coach.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 10, 2016, 06:14:02 AM
The Washington Huskies are super impressive. They have a great quarterback, and also a great everything else.
70 points against Oregon -- wow! Not to even mention the blowout of Stanford.
Washington STATE has also beaten Oregon 51-33 and Stanford 42-16, but they lost to Eastern Washington and Boise, I would say the game between the two is probablly going to be a muct watch the Cougs season is pretty shot now but they have a chance to rain on Washington's parade if you like Offense I think this will be you kinda game.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 10, 2016, 07:09:07 PM
Washington STATE has also beaten Oregon 51-33 and Stanford 42-16, but they lost to Eastern Washington and Boise, I would say the game between the two is probablly going to be a muct watch the Cougs season is pretty shot now but they have a chance to rain on Washington's parade if you like Offense I think this will be you kinda game.
I think Washington State is a good team, too, despite those two losses; and I agree that the Washington / Washington State game will be a big one.
What I'm super interested in seeing next week (besides Michigan games that I'm always interested in seeing) is Wisconsin vs. Ohio State.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 11, 2016, 07:50:26 AM
Where is the Cougs vs Husky game this year? Here (Seattle) or Pullman?
Jake Browning leads all FBS quarter backs with 23 TD and 2 INTs. There is not a QB playing better ball anywhere in the US.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 11, 2016, 12:26:47 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 11, 2016, 05:58:56 PM
What do you all think about the Matthew controversy with UF and LSU? I know what it's about - UF refuses to play LSU unless it is in Gainesville and LSU has dug it's feet in one having 7 home games and refuses to adjust to play the game. It's actually quite comical and the number 1 topic on sports radio down here where everything is college football. I have been listening to this over the past few day on Sirius radio and find it entertaining.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 13, 2016, 06:04:38 PM
Sionce you BIG fans don't have any comment on the "Mathew" cancellation, let's make predictions on the 2016 NC game.
I predict Ohio State vs Alabama. And I know I shouldn't pray for things trivial in God's eyes, but this one I am!
Bama wins by 7.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 13, 2016, 06:53:11 PM
michigan clemson
score dont matter Alabama and osu lose. :banana:
All seriousness ... lets talk in 6 weeks. :D
:salute
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 13, 2016, 06:54:46 PM
Naa.. it's perfectly OK to make outlandish predictions RIGHT now. ESPN does it and they are SMART, right?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 13, 2016, 07:15:37 PM
If folks are OK with outlandish --
Michigan vs. Washington, with Michigan winning by 7. :D
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 13, 2016, 07:30:41 PM
Michigan vs. Washington, with Michigan winning by 7. :D
Outlandish and realistic are two different descriptors :D
It is feasible though
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 13, 2016, 08:13:19 PM
Michigan vs. Washington for the championship... :noid
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 13, 2016, 09:15:52 PM
Dreamers
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on October 14, 2016, 10:44:54 AM
Ohio State vs. South Alabama for the 2016 CFP Championship. That's outlandish, right?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 14, 2016, 11:28:35 AM
Louisville vs south Alabama is more feasible. Maybe Clemson vs South Alabama.
I'm sticking with Bama and OSU at the end of the day.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 16, 2016, 02:23:37 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/9Nv5KGT.jpg)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 16, 2016, 06:35:36 AM
So close. One more turnover and Wisconsin had it. Didn't happen. On to next week.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 16, 2016, 07:09:58 AM
Not so close for Bama. I expected a lot closer game and was relieved to see how well my team played.
Bama looks like a true number one team right now. They score on defense and special teams with regularity and how about Jalen Hurts? True freshmen and there is already talk of heismen with this kid.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: shotgunneeley on October 16, 2016, 08:39:20 AM
Not so close for Bama. I expected a lot closer game and was relieved to see how well my team played.
Bama looks like a true number one team right now. They score on defense and special teams with regularity and how about Jalen Hurts? True freshmen and there is already talk of heismen with this kid.
Arkansas faired better against them than Tennessee, and that was with 5 turnovers of which two were taken to our house! Stoked we outlasted Ole Miss last night, that was a good fight to the finish.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 16, 2016, 09:03:38 AM
Not so close for Bama. I expected a lot closer game and was relieved to see how well my team played.
Bama looks like a true number one team right now. They score on defense and special teams with regularity and how about Jalen Hurts? True freshmen and there is already talk of heismen with this kid.
Scary good. Only the coaches could screw it up. Even then, the kids would probably win.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on October 16, 2016, 10:48:19 AM
For a young team like tOSU they handle the pressure quite well against Honeybagers. That should build their confendance especially against Alien Spartans and Oversize Weasels.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 16, 2016, 12:09:56 PM
Great games again to watch yesterday. Clemson was lucky. Hopefully for them they improve. They don't look like the Clemson of last year. Houston again tough time winning.
Alabama looked great against an over rated Vols team. (Ya I gotta say it even though I love the Vols they've been lucky.) Colorado State made someone nervous last night also. Two onside kicks recovered in last 4 minutes.
Wisconsin vs. Ohio State again great game. Beating the Badgers at Camp Randall a tough task especially when you are behind. Michigan played them at home in the Big House. The young OSU team is growing up and gaining experience.
Alabama doesn't really have any competition the rest of the way for them. Ole Miss looks sloppy. LSU is weak. A&M is over hyped. The depth of the SEC is shallow at best. The Tide in a walk for the SEC Crown.
The BIG may be the deepest conference in the country. Although I'm sure the ACC has something to say about that.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 16, 2016, 12:17:01 PM
Not so close for Bama. I expected a lot closer game and was relieved to see how well my team played.
Bama looks like a true number one team right now. They score on defense and special teams with regularity and how about Jalen Hurts? True freshmen and there is already talk of heismen with this kid.
Should be a better game next week.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 16, 2016, 07:56:39 PM
Alabama has had 21 non-offensive TDs this season thus far. They are not a fluke Hajo. You can dislike Bama (and the SEC) but don't be in denial.
I HOPE that Bama faces OSU in the CFP. We will see a good game
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on October 16, 2016, 08:17:48 PM
Alabama has had 21 non-offensive TDs this season thus far. They are not a fluke Hajo. You can dislike Bama (and the SEC) but don't be in denial.
I HOPE that Bama faces OSU in the CFP. We will see a good game
The young OSU defense has scored 4 touchdowns themselves. I like being the underdog to Alabama. Worked last time we faced them. OSU is very young. They are playing in difficult places to win.
Playing in Norman Oklahoma and in Camp Randall is no picnic. Both ranked teams. Looks like they'll face the #3 team ranked in the country also. Long time to go. Maybe Paul Finebaum will follow
with another book (Vol 2). I hope so!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 17, 2016, 07:42:40 AM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 17, 2016, 08:39:52 AM
Ever notice how the Urban Meyer Wiener walks on his toes? Kinda like after a normal guy finishes a post flaming chili poop. Maybe he's got hemorrhoids or a dominating wife. Could be he's just as Zack says "light on his feet". I'd don't know? :headscratch:
:old:
He'll be booted out like Brian Kelly will be. #beatohio
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 17, 2016, 08:40:56 AM
Faith is a cornerstone down here. They pray as a team, and play as a team:)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on October 17, 2016, 10:55:31 PM
Hazell is finally out at Purdue. Everyone now wants Les Miles. The sad part is that it would be a huge improvement.
Let me tell you a story about the Darell Hazell era at Purdue. I live out of state now and fly back for football games multiple times per football season. During the Darell Hazell era, I've flown back to go to 14 Purdue football games, the most recent being this past weekend vs. Iowa, and even including a road game at Michigan State. In those games, Purdue has gone 0 and 14.
Sure I could have (near-) guaranteed myself seeing a win by going to a FCS matchup, but that's not how I roll. I go to the best non-conference game, homecoming, and another Big Ten game or two. In that time, I expect even a bad coach to luck out at least a few times in 14 tries. Not Darell Hazell's teams.
In 2012, Purdue was 1 play away from beating the top two teams in the country. In 2016, Purdue people are questioning if Purdue even belongs in the Big Ten any more. That, is, a, bad, four, years.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: zack1234 on October 18, 2016, 01:38:55 AM
Ever notice how the Urban Meyer Wiener walks on his toes? Kinda like after a normal guy finishes a post flaming chili poop. Maybe he's got hemorrhoids or a dominating wife. Could be he's just as Zack says "light on his feet". I'd don't know? :headscratch:
:old:
He'll be booted out like Brian Kelly will be. #beatohio
Pipz can give a deeper insite on said saying "Light on his feet".
Pipz is a avid dog walker and likes to partake in windy walks, I am not sure if he actually owns a canine?
The above statements are not based upon any know fact the in regards to Pipz and footwear :old:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 18, 2016, 05:12:19 AM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 18, 2016, 08:58:40 AM
Hazell is finally out at Purdue. Everyone now wants Les Miles. The sad part is that it would be a huge improvement.
Let me tell you a story about the Darell Hazell era at Purdue. I live out of state now and fly back for football games multiple times per football season. During the Darell Hazell era, I've flown back to go to 14 Purdue football games, the most recent being this past weekend vs. Iowa, and even including a road game at Michigan State. In those games, Purdue has gone 0 and 14.
Sure I could have (near-) guaranteed myself seeing a win by going to a FCS matchup, but that's not how I roll. I go to the best non-conference game, homecoming, and another Big Ten game or two. In that time, I expect even a bad coach to luck out at least a few times in 14 tries. Not Darell Hazell's teams.
In 2012, Purdue was 1 play away from beating the top two teams in the country. In 2016, Purdue people are questioning if Purdue even belongs in the Big Ten any more. That, is, a, bad, four, years.
Les Miles would be good, problem being recruiting. Big ten has a lot of schools and not a overwhelming amount of talent. Saban and Belema left for the SEC. Many other coaches have struggled.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 18, 2016, 10:23:20 AM
Les Miles would be good, problem being recruiting. Big ten has a lot of schools and not a overwhelming amount of talent. Saban and Belema left for the SEC. Many other coaches have struggled.
Recruiting. A lot depends on the talent in your home state. For instance schools like Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State have a wealth of talent in their home states. High School football in these
states are a treasure trove of high school football players. These schools also attract football players from other states but the basic recruiting is done in their home state. Tough for Iowa, Minnesota
et. al to recruit high school players of the caliber of the aforementioned schools. Not a slur on Iowa etc. it's a matter of population and the history of the game itself.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on October 18, 2016, 03:58:25 PM
I don't know, I think Les Miles deserve coaching for a better program than Purdue. That place seems like a place you'd like to commit career suicide. In recent years, they're like the "Cleveland Browns" of the Big Ten. Sorry Browns fans.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on October 18, 2016, 04:01:57 PM
What do you guys think of the recent announcements made by the Big 12? They recently announced that they will not be expanding.
If and when the Big 12 goes under, Oklahoma and Texas would be cool additions to the Big Ten West division. If not Texas, then perhaps Kansas?
What do you guys think?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 18, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
I think the big 12 will cease to exist in 2-3 years.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on October 18, 2016, 06:30:14 PM
I think the Big Ten should add two teams (to 16) and re-organize into an upper and lower division ala English Premier vs Football Leagues, and have relegation and promotion. Then have a four team conference championship with 3 teams seeded from the upper division, and the top team from the lower division. Each year two teams are promoted and relegated.
Scheduling won't be known more than a year in advance for division games, but that's not a big deal, because the dates you will definitely play someone from your division can be determined.
This would make the Big Ten the most interesting conference by far and give teams something to play for even if they're middle of the pack.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on October 18, 2016, 07:06:51 PM
Hazell is finally out at Purdue. Everyone now wants Les Miles. The sad part is that it would be a huge improvement.
Let me tell you a story about the Darell Hazell era at Purdue. I live out of state now and fly back for football games multiple times per football season. During the Darell Hazell era, I've flown back to go to 14 Purdue football games, the most recent being this past weekend vs. Iowa, and even including a road game at Michigan State. In those games, Purdue has gone 0 and 14.
Sure I could have (near-) guaranteed myself seeing a win by going to a FCS matchup, but that's not how I roll. I go to the best non-conference game, homecoming, and another Big Ten game or two. In that time, I expect even a bad coach to luck out at least a few times in 14 tries. Not Darell Hazell's teams.
In 2012, Purdue was 1 play away from beating the top two teams in the country. In 2016, Purdue people are questioning if Purdue even belongs in the Big Ten any more. That, is, a, bad, four, years.
There is no way Les Miles will come to Purdue.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 18, 2016, 07:23:47 PM
I think I saw something about Bo Pelini being interested
Bo Pelini is coaching at my Alma Mater Youngstown State University. Bo Pelini is from Youngstown and played for Cardinal Mooney a High School power house in Ohio.
He stated he took the job so his daughters could also attend Cardinal Mooney. At present Jim Tressel is the President of Youngstown State. Pelini won't move to Purdue.
By the way the Stoops brothers are also from Youngstown Ohio where todays flag that officials carry and throw was invented by the then football coach of Youngstown College (now called Youngstown state) D. Beede.
One of the first official flags (at first they were red and white) is in the NFL HOF just down the road from here. Believe it or not they used to blow a horn to stop play before they invented the flag.
And yes they did play on a field marked out in grids (squares). Thus the name Gridiron. Jim Thorpe's display at the HOF of he sitting on a bench back turned with a Canton Bulldogs blanket over his shoulders
sitting in front of an old field laid out in grids. Yes, Pro Football started here many many years ago.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on October 18, 2016, 08:36:43 PM
Bunch of friends and Purdue grads who live in Ohio quickly spoke up and against Bo Pelini. Apparently he'd be a terrible hire and terrible person. It ain't gunna happen even if its true he's interested.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 18, 2016, 10:38:08 PM
If I were Purdue, I would definitely want Les Miles, but I, too, think it isn't likely they'll get him.
Despite being dismissed by LSU, he is one of the winningest coaches out there.
Back in the RichRod/Hoke days of Michigan, there were a lot of folks (me included) who thought it was crazy for Michigan not to try to get Miles. Turns out they did try, and he turned them down. Now, I'm glad he didn't accept, as we ended up with Harbaugh (who is the greatest fit for Michigan ever).
I think he should end up at Texas. That program has the most money in all of college football, a great fan base, great player recruiting, and yet they manage usually to be mediocre. That is either being hugely unlucky, or their athletic directors have sucked at picking coaches. With Miles, you don't have to guess. His record and recruiting ability are well established.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: RUSH1 on October 19, 2016, 02:06:46 PM
Recruiting. A lot depends on the talent in your home state. For instance schools like Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State have a wealth of talent in their home states. High School football in these
states are a treasure trove of high school football players. These schools also attract football players from other states but the basic recruiting is done in their home state. Tough for Iowa, Minnesota
et. al to recruit high school players of the caliber of the aforementioned schools. Not a slur on Iowa etc. it's a matter of population and the history of the game itself.
If you're comparing the amount of high school football talent in OH, MI and PA to the other Big 10 states I agree, there is an advantage. But I would not go as far as to say these states are a treasure trove of talent. Without researching Rivals or any other leading recruiting site I would still feel confident in naming a few southern states that produce more talent on their own than OH, MI, and PA combined. Florida, GA and Texas would be my guesses. Then I could name a few more southern states that would beat out or equal OH, MI and PA head to head. Those being LA, AL, MS, SC, NC, and VA. I believe TN would beat out MI but not the other two. BIG 10 coaches must raid these states to have any chance at a Natty. Why do you think Harbaugh set up satellite camps in Florida?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Skuzzy on October 19, 2016, 02:31:55 PM
In the last 5 years, approximately 40% of the blue chip college football players came from Florida, Texas, and California (in that order).
Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State have yielded about 11% of the blue chip players in college, over the last 5 years.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on October 19, 2016, 02:53:42 PM
Texas is home to a 63 million dollar high school football stadium. Pretty serious about football.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: RUSH1 on October 19, 2016, 03:55:44 PM
In the last 5 years, approximately 40% of the blue chip college football players came from Florida, Texas, and California (in that order).
Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State have yielded about 11% of the blue chip players in college, over the last 5 years.
Not sure how I forgot to mention California. What is also amazing is how many top recruits the other states I mentioned produce relative to population. To me that is more interesting than total numbers. Do you have a statistical breakdown of that also?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on October 19, 2016, 10:47:15 PM
In the last 5 years, approximately 40% of the blue chip college football players came from Florida, Texas, and California (in that order).
Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State have yielded about 11% of the blue chip players in college, over the last 5 years.
Yep. Florida, Texas and California trounce in terms of talent pools and as I said last year, I am a realist.
Back on track with Miles. I see him ending up at Texas, ND, Auburn, USC or dare I say it? Baylor. Either of those programs can afford his price tag and is still worth it. He will slip a little in pay, but not much.
LSU was overrated to begin with coming into this season. They lose to Wisconsin by two points. Which is not too shabby, when you consider the quality of Wisconsin's run these last few weeks. I would not come down on him and even after that loss. LSU had no business being #5 in the AP prior to Week 1. But this is why I do not take too much stock into "preseason rankings" and laugh at those who do. Les then beat up a worn out program in Miss St and Jacksonville whatever that gimme game was. If you look at every article regarding the firing, "preseason rankings" are mentioned and they really did make things hard on themselves going forward. The guy deserves a lot better than he is being treated.
Now the the interim coach beats up an anemic Missouri team and Southern Miss.... I see four or five more losses going on their record this year. Which comes down to whether or not Ole Miss can right the ship, but they seem to have lost a step. Regardless, they'll be SOL in terms in trying to get someone of Miles' caliber. All because of pomp and circumstances around preseason rankings.
With regards to Purdue? I seriously see Calhoun or Fleck getting the gig. Either would be a tremendous fit for the program and offer a different attitude. Troy Calhoun might be the most overlooked football coach in the NCAA, but that is just my opinion. He's been a very successful Coordinator at the NFL level and offers a pretty unique playbook. J.P. Fleck is young and has turned around WMU. But while he's turned it around massively, I like the value and experience of Calhoun. Purdue had been riding Tiller's coattails with Hope and his media circus. As well as the Hazell hiring. Hazell was simply riding high from Kent State and was overvalued. Tiller was a class act and an excellent embodiment of what is expected out of a coach.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: RUSH1 on October 20, 2016, 06:32:51 PM
Yep. Florida, Texas and California trounce in terms of talent pools and as I said last year, I am a realist.
Back on track with Miles. I see him ending up at Texas, ND, Auburn, USC or dare I say it? Baylor. Either of those programs can afford his price tag and is still worth it. He will slip a little in pay, but not much.
LSU was overrated to begin with coming into this season. They lose to Wisconsin by two points. Which is not too shabby, when you consider the quality of Wisconsin's run these last few weeks. I would not come down on him and even after that loss. LSU had no business being #5 in the AP prior to Week 1. But this is why I do not take too much stock into "preseason rankings" and laugh at those who do. Les then beat up a worn out program in Miss St and Jacksonville whatever that gimme game was. If you look at every article regarding the firing, "preseason rankings" are mentioned and they really did make things hard on themselves going forward. The guy deserves a lot better than he is being treated.
Now the the interim coach beats up an anemic Missouri team and Southern Miss.... I see four or five more losses going on their record this year. Which comes down to whether or not Ole Miss can right the ship, but they seem to have lost a step. Regardless, they'll be SOL in terms in trying to get someone of Miles' caliber. All because of pomp and circumstances around preseason rankings.
With regards to Purdue? I seriously see Calhoun or Fleck getting the gig. Either would be a tremendous fit for the program and offer a different attitude. Troy Calhoun might be the most overlooked football coach in the NCAA, but that is just my opinion. He's been a very successful Coordinator at the NFL level and offers a pretty unique playbook. J.P. Fleck is young and has turned around WMU. But while he's turned it around massively, I like the value and experience of Calhoun. Purdue had been riding Tiller's coattails with Hope and his media circus. As well as the Hazell hiring. Hazell was simply riding high from Kent State and was overvalued. Tiller was a class act and an excellent embodiment of what is expected out of a coach.
Les Miles won a National Championship and went 114-34 while coaching in the toughest conference college football has to offer. Two things got Les fired though. His inability to find and develop good QB's for his system and Nick Satin ... I meant Saban. If you're Auburn or LSU, you better beat Bama more times than they beat you or you're not going to be around long, and it doesn't look like Saban has plans of leaving soon.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 20, 2016, 07:04:57 PM
Les Miles won a National Championship and went 114-34 while coaching in the toughest conference college football has to offer. Two things got Les fired though. His inability to find and develop good QB's for his system and Nick Satin ... I meant Saban. If you're Auburn or LSU, you better beat Bama more times than they beat you or you're not going to be around long, and it doesn't look like Saban has plans of leaving soon.
I love Saban. All about the process.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 20, 2016, 07:07:44 PM
I posted earlier in this thread why I think Miles was canned. The root causes; not the resulting losses. Inability or resusing to adjust. Bad game day calls, unwarranted loyalty, clock management, etc.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: RUSH1 on October 20, 2016, 07:56:06 PM
I posted earlier in this thread why I think Miles was canned. The root causes; not the resulting losses. Inability or resusing to adjust. Bad game day calls, unwarranted loyalty, clock management, etc.
Miles was missing one thing most of his career at LSU and that was a good pocket passer.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 20, 2016, 08:02:15 PM
Bunch of friends and Purdue grads who live in Ohio quickly spoke up and against Bo Pelini. Apparently he'd be a terrible hire and terrible person. It ain't gunna happen even if its true he's interested.
I agree that Bo Pelini would not be a good fit for the Purdue program. I think Bo Pelini is a good person and a good coach. The media just likes to overstate his brash and fiery personality and paint him out to be the bad guy. I'm still somewhat disappointed that Nebraska fired him. Don't get me wrong, Mike Riley is a decent coach (they're 6-0 this year as of this post), but I felt that Pelini could have used some more time in the program. That being said, I'd like to see Pelini back in the FBS Division 1 coaching ranks in the near future.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 22, 2016, 10:47:06 PM
Unranked Penn state beats #2 Ohio State? Yeah, we saw those glass slippers out here on Ohio State this year.
HUSKIES, now in the Playoff Championship Discussion!
GO DAWGS!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 22, 2016, 10:50:02 PM
Hajo is in the garage reffin' up his V8 with a great exhaust tone trying to be in his safe place after that Penn state game. :bolt:
Rip! You are so right! I was greatly disappointed. They looked tentative. Yes they are young but when you outgain, and have ball possession on your side you should win.
This effectively knocks OSU out of the picture. Michigan will move up to probably number 2 and well deserved by the way. To lose to an unranked opponent like Penn State
effectively finishes your season. Alabama is number one without any question. They handled A&M. Ohio States talent at this point just doesn't match up to lofty expectations.
JT Barret looked like a Deer caught in headlights. And why oh why Ohio state why aren't you using Curtis Samuels more??
Now all I have to root for is my Cleveland Indians in the world series. Against the cubs? Oh boy will take a miracle.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on October 22, 2016, 11:37:01 PM
tOSU played so bad they deserved to loose.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 22, 2016, 11:38:01 PM
Ps. Better luck next year The Another One Loss Season Buckeyes. Better luck next year with a new qb and same old twerp coach. If the qb is good enough maybe they will put him on the bench. :old: :rofl
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 22, 2016, 11:48:26 PM
It was a strange day of college football. Not only the Ohio State game, but Auburn annihilated Arkansas, and Houston lost bigly to SMU. Colorado beat Stanford, too.
There's still lots of football left in the year, but Washington seems definitely a potential now for the final four.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 23, 2016, 07:58:59 AM
HAJO knows I am a fan of him.
Everyone here but me is wanting and waiting for Bama to drop a game - this a very real possibility against LSU and/or Auburn. Both of these teams improve every week. Auburn destroyed the piggies who put 30 up against Bama.
I was hoping for a Bama/OSU rematch in the CFP. Bama needs to simply keep winning one game at a time and get there. Then we can quit speculating and see matchups between the Nation's best teams.
Huskies and Wolverines look awesome. WV is proving they are a contender.
Lastly- it was good to see Penn St pull that off. I have the utmost respect for that program and hated to see what happened to it.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 23, 2016, 10:49:10 AM
Happy in Happy Valley!
"Oh oh, a oh oh, We are Penn State!"
I bet they had a good time last night!
p.s. found this on u tube. :)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on October 23, 2016, 03:32:26 PM
I was shocked at Au vs Ark game BUT WAR EAGLE!!!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on October 23, 2016, 07:02:40 PM
we lost yes but if we win out we can still make it to the playoffs. here is a little stat urban has 3 titles none of them have come from and undefeated season :) GO BUCKEYES!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on October 23, 2016, 07:38:07 PM
The A&M game was disappointing. Too many mistakes. Hated that missed targeting call too.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 23, 2016, 08:00:59 PM
Player running with the ball is not defenseless.
FTR, I think the new targeting rule is stupid. Players should keep their heads on a swivel.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 23, 2016, 09:57:09 PM
Rip! You are so right! I was greatly disappointed. They looked tentative. Yes they are young but when you outgain, and have ball possession on your side you should win.
This effectively knocks OSU out of the picture. Michigan will move up to probably number 2 and well deserved by the way. To lose to an unranked opponent like Penn State
effectively finishes your season. Alabama is number one without any question. They handled A&M. Ohio States talent at this point just doesn't match up to lofty expectations.
JT Barret looked like a Deer caught in headlights. And why oh why Ohio state why aren't you using Curtis Samuels more??
Now all I have to root for is my Cleveland Indians in the world series. Against the cubs? Oh boy will take a miracle.
To be honest, I was rooting on OSU in the 4th Q. Psst. don't tell my wife! (UW Alumni)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on October 24, 2016, 07:35:36 AM
FTR, I think the new targeting rule is stupid. Players should keep their heads on a swivel.
Ahh so how can you get targeting on a QB? He is carrying the ball.
The rule is to protect people from concussion. It was not used in this instance where it had been in others.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 24, 2016, 09:21:34 AM
Targeting in college is any hit to the head or neck area. Targeting a defenseless player is one not running with the ball yet and leading with the helmet. A qb is protected under the slide rule. Unnecessary roughness is not far away. It boils down to, is it dangerous in the judges eyes. :uhoh
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: shotgunneeley on October 24, 2016, 09:54:02 AM
Yeah, we were absolutely dumbfounded. Just kept asking myself "wha-, what happened???" Defense getting gutted on the run, offense letting the ball carrier get popped in the backfield... disaster.
Still, GO HOGS GO!!!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Oldman731 on October 24, 2016, 10:02:12 AM
Rip! You are so right! I was greatly disappointed.
By contrast, this made my weekend (...well...together with the Eagles beating the Vikings). PSU was my undergrad alma mater, OSU my growing-up town and post-grad degree. Any time OSU gets beat (except by Michigan), an angel gets his wings, says I. ESPECIALLY when it's by Penn State.
- oldman
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on October 24, 2016, 11:54:01 AM
Targeting in college is any hit to the head or neck area. Targeting a defenseless player is one not running with the ball yet and leading with the helmet. A qb is protected under the slide rule. Unnecessary roughness is not far away. It boils down to, is it dangerous in the judges eyes. :uhoh
They call it when receivers do not have the ball and get TARGETED.
The rules are so open that even the refs have problems with them.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 24, 2016, 03:26:27 PM
They call it when receivers do not have the ball and get TARGETED.
The rules are so open that even the refs have problems with them.
LOL in the game between Penn State and Michigan a Penn st. lb was called for targeting when he went for an interception during which his shoulder pad makes contact with the helmet of a diving Michigan receiver. This to me is the worst targeting call I have ever seen, I know that intent is not taken into consideration but it really relly needs to be. https://gfycat.com/DecimalLazyIndianabat
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on October 24, 2016, 03:30:22 PM
How is Ohio state still in the top 10 after losing to Penn State lol..
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on October 24, 2016, 03:35:03 PM
The B1G has figured out the trick to SEC style "quality losses"
But penn state wasn't a quality loss lol
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 24, 2016, 03:56:22 PM
:rofl
That's funny right there.
so....basically it is given to them until proven without a doubt, they are not the best team.
They got that good ole boy privilege, see.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on October 24, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
I'm just a miserable Tennessee fan :) but Ohio state should not be in the top ten.. sorry no bias here. You lose to a unranked team you need to go! Don't get me started on some of the top 5 schools strength of schedule :)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on October 24, 2016, 05:21:22 PM
any team that has lost this year did not drop much in the rankings look at ole miss they had 3 losses and was ranked 23 wisconsin with 2 losses is top ten. as an ohio state fan watching that penn state game was like watching the MSU game last year our offense is not running in an urban style once again he like a up tempo offense and we are not running that for what ever reason again we lost last year went back to up tempo and did not lose again something is not right using all the play clock again before each snap using time outs so we dont get delay of game alot of work needs to be done oh and just like the loss to MSU last year zeke had little action that game well the loss to PSU saturday curtis had little playing time. this new coordinator is no tom herman by a long shot urban needs to be involved more in the offense again or we are doomed
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on October 24, 2016, 06:41:32 PM
They call it when receivers do not have the ball and get TARGETED.
The rules are so open that even the refs have problems with them.
Bingo! in the name of safety and "concussions" spawned by the MSM, this rule was enacted. Yes, there have been some serious injuries and the reaction by the NFL and NCAA is overkill.
We are witnessing the glorification of the NFL and the NCAA has started to follow suit. I reject it whole-heartedly.
To your observation that somehow the lack of a targeting call against Bama vectored the game in Bama's favor and an ultimate victory - I disagree. Bama was the better team last Saturday. tAm played well in the second qtr though and Bama looked asleep at the wheel for that period. In Saban fashion, the team adjusted and responded in the second half. If there was a penalty that pushed a shift in momentum, it was the hands to the facemask of Hurts in the 3rd.
Having said that, I give respect to the Aggies. Sumlin has made them a great team and a true contender in the SEC.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on October 24, 2016, 09:30:56 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 25, 2016, 01:38:37 AM
This one is for the Wolverine fans out there.
So, my wife and I were watching parts of the Ohio State / Penn State game, and they are showing footage of the embarrassing Ohio State mascot mincing about for the camera. One shot had a dark arc around the lips.
My wife says, "It looks like he has a dirty sanchez."
:rofl
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on October 25, 2016, 02:39:29 AM
To your observation that somehow the lack of a targeting call against Bama vectored the game in Bama's favor and an ultimate victory - I disagree. Bama was the better team last Saturday. tAm played well in the second qtr though and Bama looked asleep at the wheel for that period. In Saban fashion, the team adjusted and responded in the second half. If there was a penalty that pushed a shift in momentum, it was the hands to the facemask of Hurts in the 3rd.
Having said that, I give respect to the Aggies. Sumlin has made them a great team and a true contender in the SEC.
Don't get me wrong. The targeting did not move the game one way or the other. I believe the shift happened when TAMU defense held Alabama but pulled the flag for roughing the passer. Was no need to touch the QB as the play was done and A&M held them. They would have had to punt. A&M had just scored and momentum was theirs to use.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 01, 2016, 12:20:52 AM
Great games again this week. Some of the unbeaten have fallen to the 1 loss category. Long way to go in this season. Anything can and will happen.
Hey! They're just kids.
Food for thought. Viewership and attendance for NFL games has fallen. Gee..........I wonder why?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on November 01, 2016, 12:50:33 AM
Presidential debates and an outstanding World Series.
Also, loss of Tirico to NBC to do college games.
That is NOT/NOT the primary reason the NFL's ratings are dropping.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 01, 2016, 12:47:05 PM
I don't watch all that much NFL, but what I did watch of it has decreased because of, as Hajo and Ammo say, "other" reasons.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 01, 2016, 02:28:14 PM
:noid I had a great time at a NFL game this year. at 50$ a ticket, no problem.
On that note, I got some MSU vs. OSU tickets for 77$. :aok The price has been dropping all year. :rofl Hajo, you ohians can come up if you like, the sparty fans are looking for something else to do. I still think MSU has a good team and ill be pulling for them to get the win.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 01, 2016, 07:06:04 PM
On that note, I got some MSU vs. OSU tickets for 77$. :aok
Sweet!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on November 02, 2016, 06:57:22 AM
Early top four...... Nice
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 02, 2016, 07:01:24 AM
There is much angst this morning about the first CFP rankings. It's a little too early for people to panic about it. All Washington needs to do is win and they are in.
There are so many scenarios that will change the landscape. That is one reason I love this time of year.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 02, 2016, 09:24:19 AM
Spartan stadium is a awesome place to watch a game. I remember Eddie George running all over msu. Before they built the wall, I was there when they rushed the field after upsetting Michigan. One year GameDay was there and us youngish got in with some bongo playing hippies, all I remember was they tore off my inflatable Michigan helmet and cheered as they tossed the severed head around, and their sexy women with the whiskey flask. Yes, 90's Era msu was Awesome!
I'm looking forward to game day! It's been a while. :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 02, 2016, 09:26:19 AM
There is much angst this morning about the first CFP rankings. It's a little too early for people to panic about it. All Washington needs to do is win and they are in.
There are so many scenarios that will change the landscape. That is one reason I love this time of year.
A lot of football to be played yet.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on November 02, 2016, 11:33:43 AM
There is much angst this morning about the first CFP rankings. It's a little too early for people to panic about it. All Washington needs to do is win and they are in.
There are so many scenarios that will change the landscape. That is one reason I love this time of year.
That was the discussion around the coffee room this morning.
JUST WIN BABY! :)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 02, 2016, 01:09:12 PM
Yeah, I'd like to see Washington as #4, but there are a lot of games left, and I can't fault rating a team highly that lost only to Alabama.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 02, 2016, 02:51:27 PM
There is much angst this morning about the first CFP rankings. It's a little too early for people to panic about it. All Washington needs to do is win and they are in.
There are so many scenarios that will change the landscape. That is one reason I love this time of year.
:noid I had a great time at a NFL game this year. at 50$ a ticket, no problem.
On that note, I got some MSU vs. OSU tickets for 77$. :aok The price has been dropping all year. :rofl Hajo, you ohians can come up if you like, the sparty fans are looking for something else to do. I still think MSU has a good team and ill be pulling for them to get the win.
Both good comments. Brooke gets it too! On Saturdays if I'm not going to a game it is more fun watching College Football all day then watching one NFL game. That's just the way I feel. I don't care if it's Podunk U against
Farquard University. Generally the games at this time of the year in NCAA football are more evenly matched. So many possibilities, many more then in the NFL for number of teams fighting for 4 playoff berths. Real competition
with just honor and pride and no contract discussions or problems and dare I include drama? It is just more fun watching the kids play. God Bless'em!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on November 02, 2016, 04:12:53 PM
Quality loss at its best with A&M. Considering that Texas almost lost to tennessee its hard to see them in the top teams..
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on November 02, 2016, 04:45:50 PM
Quality loss at its best with A&M. Considering that Texas almost lost to tennessee its hard to see them in the top teams..
Add to this that they say "Strength of schedule" is why the Huskies are #5, yet in week 2, 2 of the teams that Huskies annihilated were a #7 team (Stanford) and a #24 team (Oregon). Texas AM wasn't even ranked in the top 25.
Yeah, strength of schedule. Sheesh! What a lousy excuse.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 03, 2016, 01:36:40 PM
I would not to get sucked into the media but...if the season was over now (what rankings should account for), Washington should be 4. A n M lost. Having opinions overshadow game results should not happen. The idea of picking the "best" team should not trump results. That said, the season is not over, therfore ranking are not much more than media hype.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 03, 2016, 02:02:58 PM
If Washington ends the year undefeated, I think they'll be in the playoffs. Go, Huskies! :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 03, 2016, 02:29:00 PM
No way an undefeated Power 5 Conference champion will be left out.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on November 03, 2016, 04:13:48 PM
Add to this that they say "Strength of schedule" is why the Huskies are #5, yet in week 2, 2 of the teams that Huskies annihilated were a #7 team (Stanford) and a #24 team (Oregon). Texas AM wasn't even ranked in the top 25.
Yeah, strength of schedule. Sheesh! What a lousy excuse.
It's where they rank now. Not when game was played.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 04, 2016, 06:07:53 PM
One of college football newest and most prestigious trophies is on the line this weekend when Nebraska and Minnesota meet(so glad this may actually be a thing since Nebraska took it with them last year):
Oh, man. Just saw a horrible fall in the Nebraska game. Sure hoping that poor kid is OK.
He ran back onto the field when he returned from the hospital Brooke.
Again, lots' of good games today. LSU vs. Alabama was a fine game to watch. Navy, and I keep on saying this but it is true. If you've never practiced defending the triple option
you're in trouble. I for the life of me can't understand what happened at Michigan State and Notre Dame. I know MSU has a new quarterback but their normally great defense has
taken a vacation. Notre Dame is lost. I don't think the Coach knows what is wrong. Anyone think NDs' Coach will be fired at the end of the year?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 06, 2016, 01:06:22 AM
He ran back onto the field when he returned from the hospital Brooke.
Roger -- thank God for that!
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I for the life of me can't understand what happened at Michigan State and Notre Dame. I know MSU has a new quarterback but their normally great defense has taken a vacation. Notre Dame is lost. I don't think the Coach knows what is wrong. Anyone think NDs' Coach will be fired at the end of the year?
I'm at a loss as well. Michigan State showed some high quality at times vs. Michigan. It almost seemed like maybe they could be good but just had some weird stuff happen. I don't know how they went from so good last year to the record they have this year. They lost some good players at end of last year, but they still have many really good players. They have a great coach. What is going on? I don't know. Could just be a horrible fluctuation for them, or maybe some key injuries and no depth? Like flipping 50 coins and getting all tails. Usually that means your coin is bad, but it is possible that if you flip enough coins, eventually that happens even with a good coin.
I wonder if Notre Dame will get a new coach, too.
Also, Iowa was surprising to me this year.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on November 06, 2016, 07:52:02 AM
A&M defense could not get going and we miss Garret. QB got hurt on first TD. Just bad all around.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on November 06, 2016, 08:20:42 AM
A&M defense could not get going and we miss Garret. QB got hurt on first TD. Just bad all around.
Sucks to see injuries. I know all about them haha. Big tennesssee fan. Me and my buddies drove all the way out there to watch the game a couple weeks ago.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 07, 2016, 03:42:47 PM
I'm not at all surprised with Iowa this year. Iowa is a mediocre football program coached by an overpaid mediocre coach in Kirk Ferentz. The only good thing they got going for them is they get a few players drafted in the NFL. Frankly, Iowa is paying way too much money on him. But I guess the university, their fans, and alumni don't mind being average year in and year out. The B1G Coach of the Year award is also a B1G fat joke too. With as many times as he has won that award, it is basically a consolation prize for being average. Not to mention he embarrassed himself, his football program, and the conference after getting bent over and a surprise butt-reaming by Stanford and Christian McCaffrey in last year's Rose Bowl.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on November 07, 2016, 07:55:36 PM
I'm not at all surprised with Iowa this year. Iowa is a mediocre football program coached by an overpaid mediocre coach in Kirk Ferentz. The only good thing they got going for them is they get a few players drafted in the NFL. Frankly, Iowa is paying way too much money on him. But I guess the university, their fans, and alumni don't mind being average year in and year out. The B1G Coach of the Year award is also a B1G fat joke too. With as many times as he has won that award, it is basically a consolation prize for being average. Not to mention he embarrassed himself, his football program, and the conference after getting bent over and a surprise butt-reaming by Stanford and Christian McCaffrey in last year's Rose Bowl.
LOL tell us how ya really feel, not that you are wrong every omce in a while Ferentz puts together a good year and Iowa gives him an extension
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 08, 2016, 08:59:12 PM
The Tide looked great last weekend. That defense. The only folks pulling for the Tide is Tide fans. No one wants to see Bama win a fifth NC in the last 8 years.. except Bama fans.
I expect no comments on this post :rock
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on November 09, 2016, 07:50:55 AM
The Tide looked great last weekend. That defense. The only folks pulling for the Tide is Tide fans. No one wants to see Bama win a fifth NC in the last 8 years.. except Bama fans.
I expect no comments on this post :rock
Sorry Ammo but I pull for Bama WHEN they are not playing Auburn :D
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: nooby52 on November 09, 2016, 03:36:08 PM
Sorry Ammo but I pull for Bama WHEN they are not playing Auburn :D
That's actually rare anymore. Used to be many Auburn and Alabama fans pulled for the other team until that last weekend in November. There were always a few that hated the other team, and nowadays the interwebs has created an environment where it's easy to sit behind a keyboard and state things they would never say to someone in their presence.
I am one that pulls for Auburn mostly.. until that game. Now, I can't pull for the Volunteers under any circumstance, but there are reasons for that:)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 12, 2016, 10:34:28 PM
Good by mich and Washington! Lol. Mich and OSU game will be a game to watch.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 12, 2016, 10:39:44 PM
Oh and Clemson too. Go buckeyes!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 13, 2016, 12:29:30 AM
Again a great football weekend. Result....Alabama still the best in the country. Upsets, Michigan to an unranked Iowa, Washington to USC and Clemson to Pitt. WOW!
This changes the scene entirely. Ohio State at 5 should move up. Strength with wins AT Oklahoma and AT Wisconsin. Only loss to a now ranked #10 (Saturday) Penn State team. And a win over Nebraska at home.
USC surprised me to say the least. There are two games to go, and anything can happen but at this point I don't see anyone on horizon to beat Alabama in the playoffs.
This is just an observation on point and I am going to ask a question of all of you. Since the SEC s' power is based in the west only Alabama and the SEC is a bunch of also rans. Is it me or is the BIG
the toughest conference in the nation now? Consider this. I can see Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State and even Nebraska ranked in the top 10. I am a BIG fan as you know, but I am also a
College football fan foremost. Is it possible that the over all talent has slipped in the SEC. Ole Miss, Miss St etc. have fallen off drastically. The BIG west conference includes Wisconsin and Nebraska.
The PAC has some good football teams also but at this time since Washington fell the entire PAC I believe only Washington, Colorado, USC Stanford and maybe Washington St. are ranked but most of them
in the bottom half of the top 15. Now the ACC. Syracuse is very good and so is Clemson. I have no idea how they will be ranked because Clemson defeated Syracuse. It appears that the PAC has equaled the
quality or at least narrowed the gap between the PAC and the SEC. I am asking this as a fan. This is believe it or not an impartial question. Please if you answer give as best an impartial answer as you can.
Give it an honest try. I'm asking an honest question. Not a fanboi question. Just an impartial question.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BaldEagl on November 13, 2016, 01:17:23 AM
Too bad that the Gophers lost to Nebraska. A win would have likely made the final game of the season between the longest running rivals in NCAA Div I football; Minnesota vs Wisconsin (124 games played) for the B10 West division title. It could still happen.
Go Gophers!
Oh... BTW... Someone's going to draft Mitch Leidner.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on November 13, 2016, 01:36:05 AM
crazy weekend. if penn state wins out they will get to goto the big ten champion ship game over the buckeyes so now if that happens will the buckeyes still make it in without a conference title i think they can they are one of the best 4 teams imho but i may be biased just a little GO BUCKEYES!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 13, 2016, 03:15:06 AM
Oh, the horror! :cry
I was watching the Clemson game and rooting for Pitt to win, so that Ohio State would get into the top 4. (I wanted Michigan and Ohio State in there.)
Then Washington fell.
Then Michigan.
Egads.
Watching the Michigan vs. Iowa game, I kept wondering what was up with Michigan's offense. The defense was still quite good.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 13, 2016, 06:05:14 AM
Iowa played good enough up front. The lack of connection in the passing game limited points and first downs. Good news is, if everybody wins next week it is still all about The Game. Michigan plays Indiana, And OSU goes to East Lansing. both teams need to play their best. The first big storm of the year will arrive Saturday. Expect high winds and dropping temperatures as light rain turns to snow. :x
Gp Blue!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 13, 2016, 06:11:53 AM
Louisville and OSU fans gotta be happy this morning.
Tuesday will reveal the new CFP rankings and I suspect a big shake up.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 13, 2016, 11:59:59 AM
Louisville and OSU fans gotta be happy this morning.
Tuesday will reveal the new CFP rankings and I suspect a big shake up.
Ammo at this point I can't see anyone defeating Alabama. Some may have not noticed the change in offensive design in Alabama. Alabama now uses a mobile quarterback and can use the Zone Read type of
offense that most good teams with the TALENT use. I am sure this change was in part, participated by Bamas loss to the Buckeyes a few years back. Clemson, Syracuse et. al. are using this type of offense also.
Credit Nick Saban for changing his offense to this style. That is why Alabama is consistently good. Nick changes styles and implements many variations in styles of play to be successful. This too is why Urban
has been successful for a number of years. Saban caught up. Just so happens he had the foresight to do this and recruit players who can be successful in this style of play.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Randy1 on November 13, 2016, 12:11:35 PM
Ammo at this point I can't see anyone defeating Alabama.
Auburn and Alabama fans know that the iron bowl makes both teams vulnerable for a loss no matter what their rank and record is for the year.
Auburn had their worse game of year against GA.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 13, 2016, 12:43:05 PM
Bama will be favored big over Auburn and if you are a better, don't bet the spread. It will be close. Auburn has a pathway to win that game and Saban knows it. I hope he has Bama ready.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on November 13, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
:bhead Auburn's loss to Georgia (for me anyway) is worse than a loss to Bama :furious
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on November 13, 2016, 02:15:49 PM
Again a great football weekend. Result....Alabama still the best in the country. Upsets, Michigan to an unranked Iowa, Washington to USC and Clemson to Pitt. WOW!
This changes the scene entirely. Ohio State at 5 should move up. Strength with wins AT Oklahoma and AT Wisconsin. Only loss to a now ranked #10 (Saturday) Penn State team. And a win over Nebraska at home.
USC surprised me to say the least. There are two games to go, and anything can happen but at this point I don't see anyone on horizon to beat Alabama in the playoffs.
This is just an observation on point and I am going to ask a question of all of you. Since the SEC s' power is based in the west only Alabama and the SEC is a bunch of also rans. Is it me or is the BIG
the toughest conference in the nation now? Consider this. I can see Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State and even Nebraska ranked in the top 10. I am a BIG fan as you know, but I am also a
College football fan foremost. Is it possible that the over all talent has slipped in the SEC. Ole Miss, Miss St etc. have fallen off drastically. The BIG west conference includes Wisconsin and Nebraska.
The PAC has some good football teams also but at this time since Washington fell the entire PAC I believe only Washington, Colorado, USC Stanford and maybe Washington St. are ranked but most of them
in the bottom half of the top 15. Now the ACC. Syracuse is very good and so is Clemson. I have no idea how they will be ranked because Clemson defeated Syracuse. It appears that the PAC has equaled the
quality or at least narrowed the gap between the PAC and the SEC. I am asking this as a fan. This is believe it or not an impartial question. Please if you answer give as best an impartial answer as you can.
Give it an honest try. I'm asking an honest question. Not a fanboi question. Just an impartial question.
Im going to say this as unbiased as I possibly can. Have any team in any other conference play in the sec week in and week out. I'll bet a lot these records would change quite a bit. Examples Clemson, Louisville, Ohio State, Michghan, Washington. Granted I'm from Tennessee so I'm right in the middle of the sec. so it'll sound biased. I love all these games this year and always have. But to me the SEC is very very tough. More so than any other conferences I'm my respectful opinion.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on November 13, 2016, 06:20:32 PM
Most amazing record belongs to Mount Union, 122 game winning streak was ended. Their record since 1994 is 222-2.
Now that is impressive and an NCAA record.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 13, 2016, 07:06:20 PM
It isn't really the talent level that has slipped so much in the SEC as much as the level of play and coaching. If things continue trending the way they are, then other conferences will be able to catch up to the SEC talent-wise in around 4 years. However that is going to be very, very tough when you consider the demographics of the southeast. Those schools have an advantage for being much closer to home for the recruits.
Im going to say this as unbiased as I possibly can. Have any team in any other conference play in the sec week in and week out. I'll bet a lot these records would change quite a bit. Examples Clemson, Louisville, Ohio State, Michghan, Washington.
I partially agree. Louisville and Washington will certainly have some tough sledding in conference play within the SEC. However with Clemson, Michigan, and Ohio State right now and the last few years, they'll hold their own quite well. The coaching, recruiting, the talent, and the high level of on field performance is just as good, if not better than the entire SEC with the exception of Alabama. They have the body types and the physicality to match up very well. Frankly the SEC just isn't where it was a few years ago.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 13, 2016, 08:00:10 PM
Hajo - I won't argue the BIG is as good or better overall than the SEC. Though to me, that is a very subjective argument. Personnaly, I am just not good enough to make that judgement. Records alone are not the best indicator. Take FCS for example.
I do think OSU is an elite team though, and I have the utmost respect for this years Wisconsin and Michigan teams. Iowa has been very good, as well as Northwestern.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 14, 2016, 12:41:55 AM
Hajo - I won't argue the BIG is as good or better overall than the SEC. Though to me, that is a very subjective argument. Personnaly, I am just not good enough to make that judgement. Records alone are not the best indicator. Take FCS for example.
I do think OSU is an elite team though, and I have the utmost respect for this years Wisconsin and Michigan teams. Iowa has been very good, as well as Northwestern.
Iowa, PSU, Illinois, northwestern may not be the power house team but they will step it up just to take down mich, msu and osu.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 14, 2016, 12:47:41 AM
Hajo - I won't argue the BIG is as good or better overall than the SEC. Though to me, that is a very subjective argument. Personnaly, I am just not good enough to make that judgement. Records alone are not the best indicator. Take FCS for example.
I do think OSU is an elite team though, and I have the utmost respect for this years Wisconsin and Michigan teams. Iowa has been very good, as well as Northwestern.
It was just a question ammo. Teams in the BIG are improving. Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State and Nebraska. Playing teams on the BIG now is just as hard as playing teams in the SEC.
Ammo......I don't think Ohio State is ready yet. Eight new starters on offense and eight on defense. This is not their best year. They will improve next year with this years' experience.
Alabama imho is THE best college football team at this time. I do not see anyone with the talent to beat them including Ohio State. They are just to young although they have played very well on the
road. You know their record. Beat Oklahoma third game of the year in Oklahoma who had a 106 win 9 loss record at home. The kids did well. They went to Wisconsin and beat Wisconsin on the road,
they lost to Penn State at Penn State. What hurts Michigan is that until yesterday they've only played 2 games out of the state of Michigan. Even if Michigan loses to OSU and Penn State wins out, Ohio
State will NOT go to the Championship game if Penn State wins out. Penn State has a much easier schedule. They should win out. If they do Michigan AND Ohio State will not play in the championship game.
Now that is a tough conference. It is entirely possible that either Penn State or Wisconsin wins the BIG title. Wisconsin CAN win the BIG title by beating Penn State, even though they lost to both OSU and Michigan. Such is life.
What repercussions that would have on the selection of who plays from the BIG in the top 4 on the committee I have no idea. I would imagine it could also be possible that no team from the BIG plays in the
playoffs. I've seen weirder things happen.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 14, 2016, 05:35:28 PM
A couple of places are reporting that Michigan quarterback Speight broke his collarbone in the Iowa game.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 14, 2016, 08:25:39 PM
A couple of places are reporting that Michigan quarterback Speight broke his collarbone in the Iowa game.
Brooke the reports are correct. I don't feel that is a big deal since the backup at Michigan is very capable. Remember...........Ohio State won with the third string Quarter Back.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 15, 2016, 06:40:31 AM
Brooke the reports are correct. I don't feel that is a big deal since the backup at Michigan is very capable. Remember...........Ohio State won with the third string Quarter Back.
Easy for you to say :old: :lol
John O'Korn brings a new element to the game considering his better mobility. :uhoh He has played well so far this year. From what we have seen of Speight, O'Korns play will still come down to his ability to avoid the rush, covert 1st and 3rd downs with good throws and reads, and have the ability to use the speed at wideout to extend the field and gain points. Oh and do NOT turn the ball over. :D easy task. :rofl would help if the running game could dominate. Having the Indiana game this week is nice, the brutal weather will not be.
Go Blue!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 18, 2016, 10:15:16 AM
Another contender bites the dust. I don't see a way for the Cardinals to make the CFP.
This year's CFP is going to be interesting to watch. Sit back with some popcorn and watch the committee figure this one out.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 19, 2016, 10:32:37 AM
I think its safe to say the osu qb does no excel at his position. it is evident in the pass outcomes and coaches play calling. they don't want to trust their players. its safer that way. :aok game on. :old:
bye ohio, your only as good as your players are allowed to be . :ahand
funny how watching a strutting man trip is as gratifying as watching a underdog win. :uhoh
Go Blue!
:joystick:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 19, 2016, 07:51:33 PM
I think its safe to say the osu qb does no excel at his position. it is evident in the pass outcomes and coaches play calling. they don't want to trust their players. its safer that way. :aok game on. :old:
bye ohio, your only as good as your players are allowed to be . :ahand
funny how watching a strutting man trip is as gratifying as watching a underdog win. :uhoh
Go Blue!
:joystick:
How is MU starting QB doing? Dose he have a broken shoulders soething?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 19, 2016, 08:03:13 PM
It's 9pm on a Saturday night in Ohio and Michigan still sucks. Let Hate Week begin! :rock
How is MU starting QB doing? Dose he have a broken shoulders soething?
News initially reported that Speight broke his collar bone last week against Iowa. That hasn't been confirmed, though, and Harbaugh says it's day to day. Speight didn't play in today's Michigan vs. Indiana game, but he suited up and threw some warm-up passes with O'Korn (who was QB today).
Both Michigan and Ohio State offenses looked rough today, although both teams won.
I'm greatly looking forward to The Game!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 20, 2016, 02:55:57 AM
You say that, but I'm not against Ohio State! (Except for when they are playing Michigan or unless a loss by Ohio State benefits Michigan in any way. :aok )
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 20, 2016, 05:55:37 AM
Hate week started yesterday afternoon at The Spartan Stadium. The osu band had a choreographed display of hate by creating the shape of a hammer crushing The Michigan flag. Also trotting around their Go Blue banana. The hate is deep.
Go Blue! :banana:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 20, 2016, 06:53:53 AM
I remember years ago, when Woody and Bo were coaching their respective college teams. By the way, Woody and Bo were close friends in real life. Bo learned his Coaching under Woody Hays at OSU.
I remember stating, while he was AD at Michigan, that he had a few sets of gold football pants that are issued to OSU player and staff after a victory over Michigan. He chuckled and said "don't say that
to loud around here." I miss both of them greatly. Bo spoke at Woodys' funeral, maybe even gave the eulogy. After a blowout of Michigan by OSU the Buckeyes were up by a very wide margin.
After the last touchdown by OSU they went for two points instead of kick the XP and were successful. Asked after the game "why did you go for two points?" Woodys response "because I couldn't go for three."
The OSU vs. Michigan game has been the largest college football rivalry of all time. Proven by a nationwide vote some years back. Two great schools and two great programs.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 20, 2016, 10:07:40 AM
With OSU and the wolverines meeting next week at #2 and #3 respectively, one will likely get bounced out of the CFP.
I got wonder how the committee will handle this.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 20, 2016, 03:25:31 PM
Well well well, I thought my picture would never make the internet but it has. If you look close Im the one above JT's left shoulderpad. up about 11 rows and to the fans left of the three yellow guys and below the blue scarf lady. :rock
5 more day until gameday. around 250$ to sit by yourself with the airplanes. :D
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 21, 2016, 04:09:35 PM
Hate week started yesterday afternoon at The Spartan Stadium. The osu band had a choreographed display of hate by creating the shape of a hammer crushing The Michigan flag. Also trotting around their Go Blue banana. The hate is deep.
Go Blue! :banana:
The OSUMB frequently throws in field drills of beating Michigan in some ways all throughout the football season. Some are subtle, others not so much. Certainly a great way to entertain the crowd and build up energy for the anticipation of "The Game".
The banana you're referring to actually says "Beat Blue". And that is the "mascot" of the Sousaphone section. Each instrument group has their own "mascot". A band tradition that has stuck around for quite some time now.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 23, 2016, 12:48:10 AM
Man, this is a weekend of important games, and between teams that aren't necessarily hugely outmatched, either. Michigan / Ohio State, Washington / Washington State, Alabama / Auburn, Colorado / Utah, Michigan State / Penn State, Wisconsin / Minnesota, Clemson / South Carolina, Florida / Florida State. Wow!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 23, 2016, 06:00:21 AM
There will be upsets this weekend.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 24, 2016, 07:59:44 AM
Yes they will be. Mich winning by 3, unless their starting QB has a weak performance.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 24, 2016, 08:18:40 AM
Cloudy and cool with a light wind. The weather is the most predictable. It will come down to defence, if either team gets a run game going they win. If not, big plays and turnovers win the game. Michigan must stop JT on third down. :x
Should be a good game. :rock
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 26, 2016, 01:09:32 PM
MU/OSU really good with side are out for each other. Long time since I've seen them play like this.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 26, 2016, 01:59:24 PM
OSU defense starting to target Speight.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 26, 2016, 02:46:36 PM
Oh boy. Let's see if MU can get a TD. :banana: :bolt:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 26, 2016, 03:05:56 PM
:banana: :x
What a game! You can't get a better game then that. 2 v 3 in double over time......toejam! I called MU winning by 3, I was wrong.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 26, 2016, 04:13:38 PM
Classic Team up North vs. OSU football game. The BIG is finally back in that regard. A lot of "what ifs'" for both sides to point out.
Well done on both sides.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 26, 2016, 06:21:37 PM
Ug.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 26, 2016, 06:35:00 PM
I knew that game was going to be close. What i did not expect is it going overtime. OSU got dam lucky on so many plays and one really questionable first down call in the double overtime.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 26, 2016, 07:21:13 PM
I knew that game was going to be close. What i did not expect is it going overtime. OSU got dam lucky on so many plays and one really questionable first down call in the double overtime.
Refs reviewed the play. Not much else to say.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 26, 2016, 07:21:45 PM
So let me get this straight...
There is still a chance neither the number 2 or 3 team will make the CFP? If you gotta win the conference championship.... This could get weird real quick. Let's watch what the committee does.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BaldEagl on November 26, 2016, 07:28:05 PM
However that is going to be very, very tough when you consider the demographics of the southeast. Those schools have an advantage for being much closer to home for the recruits.
So your saying only the SE has quality HS football programs? Rubbish.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 26, 2016, 07:30:09 PM
There is still a chance neither the number 2 or 3 team will make the CFP? If you gotta win the conference championship.... This could get weird real quick. Let's watch what the committee does.
Yep, really mess up situation.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 26, 2016, 08:09:15 PM
We should just watch and see how they handle it. This is a true test of the CFP.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 26, 2016, 09:52:36 PM
:blank:
hey um, penn state won. they earned it. if anything else happens to take that from them they should banish the game and let fans pick winners. "Watching football elite pick winners is lame like book reading." -Ezekiel Elliot
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 26, 2016, 10:33:52 PM
hey um, penn state won. they earned it. if anything else happens to take that from them they should banish the game and let fans pick winners. "Watching football elite pick winners is lame like book reading." -Ezekiel Elliot
Guess we will wait and see in Tuesday.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on November 26, 2016, 11:29:50 PM
Another great day to be a tennesssee Vol fan and be a champion of life at the same time.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 27, 2016, 12:31:03 AM
Wondering why they have a Committee if they are only going to elect conference winners as the ones eligible for the playoffs?
If that were the case why do we need a committee? They'd only need one person to draw from a hat.
#2 beats #3. I've gotta hear this. If Wisconsin beats Penn State how is one going to decide against OSU or Michigan which both beat Wisconsin?
I can't wait for this one :aok Looks like the BIG turned into one helluva conference.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BaldEagl on November 27, 2016, 01:09:37 AM
Great game today between Michigan and Ohio State. I was rooting for OSU. God I hate Michigan. That said Penn State had a great year.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 27, 2016, 02:42:51 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on November 30, 2016, 12:25:16 PM
Well if Clemson and Washington lose both of their conference championships, things could get VERY interesting for the CFP committee. Could you imagine the rage of the rest of the college football world if two or three B1G teams go to the playoffs? If you support expanding the playoffs to 8 teams, this is a scenario you'd want to see happen in order to push for change. Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, and USC are kind of on the outside looking in at this point it seems.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 30, 2016, 01:18:03 PM
Yep, grab some popcorn and your favorite beverage.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 30, 2016, 02:26:18 PM
All of the crying last Saturday was a sight to behold. Adults acting like children over misplaced anger. Blame the refs instead of three turnovers resulting in 14 points.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 30, 2016, 02:35:15 PM
It's a mess already. If Clemson and Washington lose it becomes a HUGE mess. Colorado vs. Washington...........my head hurts.
The problem is 4 out of the top seven are from the BIG.
Some state that the only team that could compete with BAMA is OSU. I don't believe that. What I do believe at this point is that
The Tide will beat anyone they go up against in the playoffs. I of course will root for OSU but realize they aren't ready for the playoffs.
The Buckeyes have 8 first year players starting on both offense and defense. Their offense shows that, plus Barrett is not very good throwing the football this year.
To me, even though I am as you know a Buckeye fan, I have to admit at this time Alabama is the best college football team in the country.
As someone said they are lining up to take an arsewhooping from Alabama.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on November 30, 2016, 02:39:47 PM
Jim McElwain was quoted this week to say "watching film of the Bama Defense is making me physically ill"
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on November 30, 2016, 03:08:33 PM
Bama is good but not unbeatable a few teams has put points up against them this year. so i think a few teams have a chance to win. Ohio state they are very young the offense has not been what we are used to seeing JT cant hit the deep ball and teams know this so they are stacking the box and just blitzing at us all the time and as you can see its working michigan had 8 sacks Penn state was close to that as well so bama will prob do the same but the defense is damn good and has kept us in alot of games this year. Clemson can score in bunches so they got a chance it would be a shoot out but they prob have the best chance to beat them this year.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 30, 2016, 05:47:54 PM
Sounds scary. I would bet the best defense is what can beat Alabama. Unfortunately, there is not a team that possesses that defense and also has a offense to put up the points to win. Michigan could do it, the way they controlled OSU shows their strength. Im not sure OSU has the men to control the line of scrimmage. But it is college football, anything could happen.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on November 30, 2016, 08:19:11 PM
All of the crying last Saturday was a sight to behold. Adults acting like children over misplaced anger. Blame the refs instead of three turnovers resulting in 14 points.
As a neutral fan. Jim had the right to complain. The refs this year are below average. In every conference.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on November 30, 2016, 11:32:38 PM
As a neutral fan. Jim had the right to complain. The refs this year are below average. In every conference.
No excuse. They made crucial mistakes that cost them points. Had they not thrown a pick 6 and given up 6 more? That first down would never have mattered is my point and the only point.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 01, 2016, 05:11:20 AM
Not so fast my friend. Looking at what happened is only one potential outcome. Every play and every call made a difference in that game. Sometimes it was the play and sometimes it was the refs. One can not tie the outcome to one or two plays and at the same time negate one or two plays. The critical issue to discuss is the results of the referees calls or no calls. We now know the crew was biased and banned, validating the obvious poor officiating we all witnesses Saturday. It is unfortunate they played such a big role in the game, a game of inches and emotional grit. Im bitterly disappointed. But sure ready for next game! :rock
Go Blue!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 01, 2016, 05:55:02 AM
I agree with masherbrum. Was that a bad call in the OT first down? I think it was based on what I saw. Once it went to review, you knew they would not overturn it. The refs are not going to end the game on a call.
A coach and team have to overcome everything that influences the game and it does no good to complain about the refs post game. Nothing good comes from that.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 01, 2016, 06:36:23 AM
Not so fast my friend. Looking at what happened is only one potential outcome. Every play and every call made a difference in that game. Sometimes it was the play and sometimes it was the refs. One can not tie the outcome to one or two plays and at the same time negate one or two plays. The critical issue to discuss is the results of the referees calls or no calls. We now know the crew was biased and banned, validating the obvious poor officiating we all witnesses Saturday. It is unfortunate they played such a big role in the game, a game of inches and emotional grit. Im bitterly disappointed. But sure ready for next game! :rock
Go Blue!
Bull. If you are blaming officiating, then there is no reason to be ranked that high in the first place. Biased? BS. You make your own luck and don't commit three turnovers.
Michigan does not deserve to be in the CFP. They had one team to beat and win the conference. They failed. But it was self-inflicted.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 01, 2016, 06:51:42 AM
I agree with masherbrum. Was that a bad call in the OT first down? I think it was based on what I saw. Once it went to review, you knew they would not overturn it. The refs are not going to end the game on a call.
A coach and team have to overcome everything that influences the game and it does no good to complain about the refs post game. Nothing good comes from that.
The final spot was icing on the cake. Off the top of my head the two calls that extended osu drives, pass interference on hill and unsportsmanlike on coach. Then the lack of pass interference on osu. Other instances made the game feel like a notre Dame game.
The college football committee, like the rest of us, saw who the better team was.
Both teams looked very good but the dice favors Michigan. Ohio won and they sit over michigan, but Michigan showed they are cappable for top four. Saturday night we can put more data in the mix.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 01, 2016, 07:00:13 AM
The final spot was icing on the cake. Off the top of my head the two calls that extended osu drives, pass interference on hill and unsportsmanlike on coach. Then the lack of pass interference on osu. Other instances made the game feel like a notre Dame game.
The college football committee, like the rest of us, saw who the better team was.
Both teams looked very good but the dice favors Michigan. Ohio won and they sit over michigan, but Michigan showed they are cappable for top four. Saturday night we can put more data in the mix.
If the committee thought Michigan were the better team, they would be in.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 01, 2016, 07:02:08 AM
Bull. If you are blaming officiating, then there is no reason to be ranked that high in the first place. Biased? BS. You make your own luck and don't commit three turnovers.
Michigan does not deserve to be in the CFP. They had one team to beat and win the conference. They failed. But it was self-inflicted.
Check out the news, the crew is biased and previously banned for multiple reasons, and a basketball coach who gave out the first ever technical in football history. Just saying. I know how many ways Michigan could have won, they outplayed osu. They should have won. This is not the first time the better team lost and every error is scrutinised.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 01, 2016, 07:08:58 AM
If the committee thought Michigan were the better team, they would be in.
Having two loss Michigan at 5 shows a lot. It is a setup for Saturday. Conference titles have not been factored. Also putting Michigan up there bolsters the highway robbery that is OSU above the division champion Penn state. Defiantly rich men playing with puppets. All clamouring for self interest in the Holy name of "the best team"
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 01, 2016, 07:33:12 AM
I don't look that far into it. As of today, the committee believes Michigan is the 5th best team.
I think you are showing a little bias toward Michigan. I think OSU is the better team of the two right now. it happened on the field and taking speculation out of it, it's elementary.
If one wants to speculate about if Bama is better than OSU, OSU better than Washington, UM better than Clemson.. that's fair. They have yet to play. The point I want to make is you cannot speculate about OSU and UM. It was settled on the field. OSU was the better team ON THAT DAY and there are consequences.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on December 01, 2016, 08:03:44 AM
No excuse. They made crucial mistakes that cost them points. Had they not thrown a pick 6 and given up 6 more? That first down would never have mattered is my point and the only point.
What I'm saying is the refs are making more and more mistakes in college football with nothing being done about it. And guess what? If you criticize them you'll be fined 50,000. Sure Ohio state was the better team that day. But these refs we got this year aren't very good. Something needs to be changed.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 01, 2016, 08:38:28 AM
Check out the news, the crew is biased and previously banned for multiple reasons, and a basketball coach who gave out the first ever technical in football history. Just saying. I know how many ways Michigan could have won, they outplayed osu. They should have won. This is not the first time the better team lost and every error is scrutinised.
Why does every Michigan fan play the "our teams should have won, etc"? Michigan did not outplay OSU because they committed three turnovers and lost as a direct result of a 14 point swing. Like we discussed last year, the fan base is over valuing the coach and mental mistakes plague this team.
You beat up the teams that you were supposed to and only won one of the two games that mattered. My wife went to UM and even she tried playing some of these same cards. She realized the spot is pointless when you gave them 14 points.
Realize that next year will be a more trying season as Harbaugh loses 40 seniors. That is not easy to rebound from, regardless of who is coaching.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on December 01, 2016, 10:51:01 AM
its easy to be critical of the refs and when its your team its extremly easy to be critical of the refs its just the emotions of football but really when you look at it the refs have a rule book a foot thick they dont know every little rule in there they cant thats why you see mistakes by them they are HUMAN just like all of us. and they will make bad calls from time to time. the game is played very fast its hard to get every call right we see every play slowed down from tv in real time it happens much quicker you cant review every play a game takes 3 and half hours now. people already want shorter games in todays high paced world. i dont think the refs got the call wrong though in this case his forward progress got to the marker
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on December 01, 2016, 11:40:12 AM
GO HUSKIES
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Oldman731 on December 01, 2016, 01:26:47 PM
Why does every Michigan fan play the "our teams should have won, etc"?
Heh. I think that's true for ALL fans. Anytime I talk to someone whose team lost, I hear that it was because of poor refs, bad weather, sunspot activity, the excuses are endless. It's NEVER that the other team was better.
- oldman
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 01, 2016, 05:34:04 PM
Yet sometimes there are indeed really bad calls.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on December 01, 2016, 06:54:03 PM
I know how many ways Michigan could have won, they outplayed osu. They should have won. This is not the first time the better team lost and every error is scrutinised.
This is false. UM outplayed OSU for 3 quarters, however they could not keep up in the 4th when it mattered the most. UM's offense was gassed in the entire 4th quarter and was relying on their defense to win the game for them... that didn't work out too hot- not especially when your beloved coach can't control his temper.
Stop being a salty, #bitterlydisappointed Wolverine fan and just admit to the fact that OSU played hard and capitalized on the opportunities that UM gave them.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 01, 2016, 07:35:23 PM
This is false. UM outplayed OSU for 3 quarters, however they could not keep up in the 4th when it mattered the most. UM's offense was gassed in the entire 4th quarter and was relying on their defense to win the game for them... that didn't work out too hot- not especially when your beloved coach can't control his temper.
Stop being a salty, #bitterlydisappointed Wolverine fan and just admit to the fact that OSU played hard and capitalized on the opportunities that UM gave them.
UM managed 310 yards of total offense, OSU managed 330. But remember less yardage, three turnovers and forward progress is being outplayed.
Integrity goes a long way. Harbaugh forgets that his players are human and will make mistakes. Like "the punt", "the pick 6". Adversity is a fickle thing.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 02, 2016, 12:39:37 AM
Iv'e been quiet about this. Michigan shot itself in the foot. Two interceptions and the UM Coach gets a 15 yard penalty against his team for having a meltdown in front of the Officials.
Any good Coach knows that in a game of this importance his only influence should be on coaching. Harbaugh decided to be a part of the game when he had his meltdown. The Officials
had no choice but to call that penalty. He performed his childish rant right in front of an Official. His actions challenged the official. Not a good idea in a game of that importance.
There was a fumble also that had a great deal to do with Michigan's loss. This was Michigan's chance to beat the Buckeyes who had 16 first year players, 8 on offense and 8 on defense.
They blew it, not the officials. Things taken in regard also is that Michigan won ONE game outside the state of Michigan. OSU went on the road to Oklahoma, and Wisconsin and won both
games. OSU lost to PSU and Michigan lost to Iowa And OSU in away games. Face it, Michigan lost two games. OSU lost one. I don't think it matters because I am of the opinion that
Alabama would defeat either in the playoffs. I'll be rooting for the Buckeyes but feel that next year they will be much better then they are this year. Lot's of recruits were at the OSU game
Saturday.. Just read that #29 ESPN recruit committed to OSU today. ESPN Staff writer Tom VanHarren reported #2 OLB Baron Browning from Texas was also recruited by Alabama, Florida
State, UCLA, TCU and Michigan. He was at the game Saturday as one of the recruits.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 02, 2016, 04:22:45 AM
Hajo,
As an Alabama fan, I can tell you Bama has weaknesses that can be exploited. They are beatable.
That said - ROLL TIDE
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on December 02, 2016, 06:20:39 AM
Here's some recent research to back up my claims that the refs are in deed biased at times. In all confrences. I wonder why? $$$$$$$
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 02, 2016, 06:38:46 AM
It is human nature. It is our emotions. Watching the game it was obvious to me how the came was called. you see a ref must draw the line and hold it to be fair. think of a baseball umpire calling strikes. He has a right to draw the where he sees fit, and to be fair the line must be consistent. In my opinion the game was not called fair. some calls were very strict and yet others more relaxed. after all the biased calls, jt was short and the game was over. :) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyTfEDgUQAARZLQ.jpg)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 02, 2016, 10:06:50 AM
Too bad he made it farther than that UM lovers pic. You lost and no, not everyone does what you are doing. It was funny watching you three pig pile me last season and to watch the continued excuses is gratifying.
Game was called fine and UM pooped the bed. Blaming refs is Bush league, when you are still deliberately ignoring the turnovers.
The continued arrogance is hilarious BTW.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on December 02, 2016, 10:56:48 AM
Too bad he made it farther than that UM lovers pic. You lost and no, not everyone does what you are doing. It was funny watching you three pig pile me last season and to watch the continued excuses is gratifying.
Game was called fine and UM pooped the bed. Blaming refs is Bush league, when you are still deliberately ignoring the turnovers.
The continued arrogance is hilarious BTW.
I'm saying refs are terrible all across all confrences. Not your beloved buckeyes. Step down and talk to us
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 02, 2016, 11:33:33 AM
I'm saying refs are terrible all across all confrences. Not your beloved buckeyes. Step down and talk to us
I am not a Big 10 fan, nor will I ever be.
When you live in Michigan, interact with Alumni and Walmart Wolverines. There is an arrogance that appears, when their team loses a big game. Just like what is happening in this thread. This applies to UM more so than other teams.
Referees aside. Three turnovers and the meltdown of "an elite coach", lost that game. Period.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 02, 2016, 01:29:43 PM
not really. Funny how you come around to hate on Michigan again. that's the only similarity i see to last year. :rofl
I've commented on issues, we have talked very little about the game. If you would like to we could talk about how it was awesome game played at a elite level. The 4 plays you mention were as important as the 4 calls i mentioned. It was great football. Without gory details, as I've mentioned, Michigan outplayed OSU. I know you dont want to hear it. It is a tough argument because they both played very well. Not much to say beyond that.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 02, 2016, 01:36:09 PM
not really. Funny how you come around to hate on Michigan again. that's the only similarity i see to last year. :rofl
I've commented on issues, we have talked very little about the game. If you would like to we could talk about how it was awesome game played at a elite level. The 4 plays you mention were as important as the 4 calls i mentioned. It was great football. Without gory details, as I've mentioned, Michigan outplayed OSU. I know you dont want to hear it. It is a tough argument because they both played very well. Not much to say beyond that.
No argument. Michigan got beat. You've shown the others how inept you are.
Edit: "hating". Not our fault you didn't go there and whimper about losing. There's always next year Sally.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 02, 2016, 01:54:06 PM
Jay I can't believe what I am reading. Excuse after excuse and the complete ignorance of the facts. If Michigan would have beat OSU I would have congratulated them on their victory graciously. Really!
Seems to me on these boards however the Michigan fans are whiners like their coach. Michigan may get into the playoffs. Longshot but true.
Michigan fans on these boards need to grow up somewhat. Their arrogance and refusal to acknowledge the facts of the game and outcome speak volumes about their attitude.
Fact is YOU LOST. You lost when you let Iowa beat you. Get over it and move on. There is always next year.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 02, 2016, 02:52:56 PM
I believe it. 1-1 vs MSU and 0-2 vs OSU, but they are the elite. They had an easy schedule and lost to Iowa on the road. But when the rubber meets the road? Yet another failure of a season, because you cannot beat OSU.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 02, 2016, 03:39:45 PM
And there is next year. I guess we leave it at that. No point in talking if it going to be twisted into cliche hate. You'll like it if we rolled over and said the better team won. Not so fast, there is more to the story. One accurate spot and all your banter about excuses would not exist. I should stop now, I see it only fuels more Michigan haters. Till next year...ps it was a great game, despite what the haters say. It takes a lot to beat touchdown Jesus. :old: :ahand
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 02, 2016, 03:50:43 PM
Leaders and best my arse.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 02, 2016, 03:56:25 PM
very nice, you know the fight song!
osu fans might not know about touchdown jesus. They say it is the statue outside of the stadium, it helps them win games. And it does, but it is not the statue, it is in the hearts of the refs! True story. Ask anyone in Michigan. We used to play them U of M then MSU week 2 and three every year. Seen a lot of bad calls down there.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 02, 2016, 06:26:44 PM
osu fans might not know about touchdown jesus. They say it is the statue outside of the stadium, it helps them win games. And it does, but it is not the statue, it is in the hearts of the refs! True story. Ask anyone in Michigan. We used to play them U of M then MSU week 2 and three every year. Seen a lot of bad calls down there.
Natt I do apologize for being so gruff. A famous coach (my memory fails at the moment) stated that you should not place yourself in the position of making an officials call influence the outcome of the game.
Means.....to win you have to outplay your opponent. A game lasts four quarters. And I am NOT a hater of Michigan. Never was. I am a big fan of former Coach and AD Bo Schembechler and of OSU of course. I appreciate College football
period. Next year OSU will play the U of M at their stadium. In the SEC I like Tennessee, in the PAC I have no favorite.. I respect the Army- Navy game greatly. College footballs' traditions and rivalries will always
foreshadow anything the NFL has. I am not a Notre Dame fan but have attended a few games there. When you hear the Notre Dame fight song played and sung in that atmosphere, it raises the hair on the back of your neck,
even though one is not a Fighting Irish Fan. Tradition..anywhere, embrace it. It is what College football will have forever over any NFL team.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 02, 2016, 06:59:08 PM
Why do you like Tennessee? They are the worst - I hate everything about hat team, down to that stupid ugly orange color and that fried chicken eating fat Phil Fulmer.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 02, 2016, 07:11:26 PM
"Yesssss . . .The sourness and bitterness flows strong in this one."
"Yesssss . . .The sourness and bitterness flows strong in this one."
I didn't see any of that here after the Iowa game.
Stick to spamming the general discussion. Because the only ones being sour and bitter are the ones deflecting turnovers and choosing to place blame on refs.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 02, 2016, 07:54:09 PM
Natt I do apologize for being so gruff. A famous coach (my memory fails at the moment) stated that you should not place yourself in the position of making an officials call influence the outcome of the game.
Means.....to win you have to outplay your opponent. A game lasts four quarters. And I am NOT a hater of Michigan. Never was. I am a big fan of former Coach and AD Bo Schembechler and of OSU of course. I appreciate College football
period. Next year OSU will play the U of M at their stadium. In the SEC I like Tennessee, in the PAC I have no favorite.. I respect the Army- Navy game greatly. College footballs' traditions and rivalries will always
foreshadow anything the NFL has. I am not a Notre Dame fan but have attended a few games there. When you hear the Notre Dame fight song played and sung in that atmosphere, it raises the hair on the back of your neck,
even though one is not a Fighting Irish Fan. Tradition..anywhere, embrace it. It is what College football will have forever over any NFL team.
It is great. I get older and it stays the same age. I look forward to Michigan playing notre Dame again in the future. It's a shame they have astroturf, the cold mud was a notable element.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 02, 2016, 08:02:18 PM
Well, this got awkward quick.
I'm here to tell you the OSU-UM rivalry pales to the Iron Bowl.... <ducks>
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 02, 2016, 08:13:32 PM
I'm here to tell you the OSU-UM rivalry pales to the Iron Bowl.... <ducks>
Nothing awkward here, as they have never interacted with in game. But enough of that hilarity.
UM-ND is a bigger one IMO. Big 10 conf. head dropped the ball in eliminating the game, although it will return in 2018 for two seasons. My guess is they will re-kindle that rivalry, which never should have stopped.
It is merely one thing to discuss football, but when some choose to plug their ears, it ceases being a discussion.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 02, 2016, 08:16:38 PM
Nothing awkward here, as they have never interacted with in game. But enough of that hilarity.
UM-ND is a bigger one IMO. Big 10 conf. head dropped the ball in eliminating the game, although it will return in 2018 for two seasons. My guess is they will re-kindle that rivalry, which never should have stopped.
It is merely one thing to discuss football, but when some choose to plug their ears, it ceases being a discussion.
I love your candid posts - keep on being you man. Right on
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 02, 2016, 08:23:49 PM
Stick to spamming the general discussion. Because the only ones being sour and bitter are the ones deflecting turnovers and choosing to place blame on refs.
Excellent. Make a different irrelevant point and change the subject.
You, sir, are a debate master.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 02, 2016, 08:42:39 PM
Don't mention 3-16 on third down, they could brig up Rich Rodriguez. :uhoh 8 sacks...Maybe we go back to the final score before they start talking about our sisters. You know how the like sisters. :ahand
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 02, 2016, 09:43:53 PM
Excellent. Make a different irrelevant point and change the subject.
You, sir, are a debate master.
No. You and your faithful sidekick have spent three pages blaming the officials for losing a game. Iowa should have been a win and there was no excuse for losing the game. You lost, just like you lost to OSU. I shouldn't have to type that a 10th time, so there is no changing of the subject. Nor should anyone else. Meanwhile your sidekick needs to resort to emoji's and gifs. Let me know the year you graduated from UM.
There is no debate here. Most of us, even if not UM fans, obviously watched an entirely different game than the two of you.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 02, 2016, 09:47:41 PM
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 02, 2016, 10:31:13 PM
No. You and your faithful sidekick have spent three pages blaming the officials for losing a game.
Completely false. You will not find any such post above by me. Also, as far as I know, I have no sidekicks. Just occasional nemeses who don't like my sunny demeanor. :aok
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Iowa should have been a win and there was no excuse for losing the game.
So you do understand my point after all. You see, that is obviously the purpose of typing "I didn't see any of that here after the Iowa game" to your question of "Why does every Michigan fan play the "our teams should have won, etc". Michigan played poorly, lost (but hats off to Iowa for playing gutsy and hard), and no one here, as far as I remember, complained otherwise.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 02, 2016, 11:06:35 PM
Looks like Washington has this one very much in the bag.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on December 02, 2016, 11:26:44 PM
Fiesta Bowl tickets booked. Alaska Airlines tickets booked. Hotel 2 night and 1 night in a private home behind Harry Reid's home booked (Friend owns the house that borders his backyard)
GO DAWGS! BEAT BAMA!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 02, 2016, 11:56:18 PM
Fiesta Bowl tickets booked. Alaska Airlines tickets booked. Hotel 2 night and 1 night in a private home behind Harry Reid's home booked (Friend owns the house that borders his backyard)
GO DAWGS! BEAT BAMA!
Nice! You will have to post up on FB. I'll be sure and text you as well bro. :rock
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 03, 2016, 12:10:01 AM
Well done Washington! Huskies in the playoffs!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 03, 2016, 12:39:24 AM
:rofl Awesome! 41-10 as well. Lil wood shed whooping.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 03, 2016, 12:50:52 AM
The Huskies looked great.
The announcers kept talking about how Browning wasn't having a good game, but to me it seemed just that the running game was working so well, there wasn't motivation to try for more passing.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 03, 2016, 05:32:42 AM
Completely false. You will not find any such post above by me. Also, as far as I know, I have no sidekicks. Just occasional nemeses who don't like my sunny demeanor. :aok
So you do understand my point after all. You see, that is obviously the purpose of typing "I didn't see any of that here after the Iowa game" to your question of "Why does every Michigan fan play the "our teams should have won, etc". Michigan played poorly, lost (but hats off to Iowa for playing gutsy and hard), and no one here, as far as I remember, complained otherwise.
"blaming refs" started at "If you are blaming officiating". :rolleyes: A debate master for sure.
Washington is In. Looks like Clemson is In. All eyes on the Big Ten Championship, If It matters. I dont know if there is much that can take osu from the judges hearts. I don't see Penn State rolling over that Wisconsin defense. Wisconsin is a tough team and I think they will fly by Penn State behind their offensive line and now experienced qb. Wisconsin could have a chance to trump osu with a conference Championship and two great losses. Time will tell. :cheers: I might drink a beer today and put on my red shirt. W
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 03, 2016, 07:00:27 AM
Nat, Wisconsin will have a tough time jumping anyone. They lost to Michigan in the big house and lost to Ohio State at home in Camp Randall. Again, two loses. Both teams are ranked ahead of them.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on December 03, 2016, 07:56:59 AM
Congrats to Washington on their PAC-12 championship. You guys earned it! Let's see how Clemson fares in their game. If they lose, Washington could be matched up with Ohio State for the semifinals.
In other news, nothing good ever comes from Michigan. Except for their beer. The beer is excellent. As far as I'm concerned, Canada can acquire the whole state of Michigan and I wouldn't shed a tear.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 03, 2016, 08:18:16 AM
Congrats to Washington on their PAC-12 championship. You guys earned it! Let's see how Clemson fares in their game. If they lose, Washington could be matched up with Ohio State for the semifinals.
In other news, nothing good ever comes from Michigan. Except for their beer. The beer is excellent. As far as I'm concerned, Canada can acquire the whole state of Michigan and I wouldn't shed a tear.
Some of us aren't bad. Then again, I don't root for a big 10 team, but can actually discuss a game, sans blaming refs. That was actually a good game, until the Natcigg's started posting on FB. Simply whne after whine. Then you read here how OSU was outplayed and you continue laughing at people who are delusional.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on December 03, 2016, 08:34:25 AM
I have refundable tickets if Huskies go to the Peach bowl instead. Thank goodness, that was a drunk purchase last night! LOL!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 03, 2016, 08:42:38 AM
Congrats to Washington on their PAC-12 championship. You guys earned it! Let's see how Clemson fares in their game. If they lose, Washington could be matched up with Ohio State for the semifinals.
In other news, nothing good ever comes from Michigan. Except for their beer. The beer is excellent. As far as I'm concerned, Canada can acquire the whole state of Michigan and I wouldn't shed a tear.
:rofl we have yet to find anything good in Ohio. Some good people that manage to flee areally the exception. Michigan has great people minus a few condescending pin heads in the southeast. Then again, I'll take Michigan's southeast over ohio'so southeast. :uhoh
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Skulls22 on December 03, 2016, 01:53:18 PM
As soon as I clicked on the forum I cringed....
We will be back! GO GREEN
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 03, 2016, 06:31:18 PM
It's ight Skulls, we are good people. The Badgers, Boliermakers, and Hawkeyes are over there. The Ohians play over there. The South showed up in that Bama woody station wagon over there. OU came up for a while, they poke in every now and then. The pac ten is up stairs, for some reason they came out of the bedroom last night all wet and smiling, there ok. The Notre Dame people remain anonymous but still despise Michigan and show up to drop a elbow on the pile when they can. Enjoy!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 03, 2016, 06:48:55 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 03, 2016, 10:22:06 PM
As an aside, my Alma Mater Youngstown State University won it's 2nd game in the FCS College Football playoffs. Last week they beat Samford, this week they defeated #3 Jacksonville State.
For those that don't know (hey, they're FCS) YSU has won 4 national titles under then Coach Jim Tressel before he went on to Ohio State. Jim is now President of YSU and former Coach of the
Nebraska Cornhuskers Bo Pellini is in his second year at the helm. Bo is from Youngstown as are the Stoops brothers. Bo moved back to Youngstown so his children could attend Youngstown
Cardinal Mooney High School where he attended many years ago. I played during Richard Nixon's first term in office. My, that was many years ago :huh
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on December 03, 2016, 10:40:33 PM
Woooo PSU!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Lazerr on December 03, 2016, 10:58:55 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on December 03, 2016, 11:11:23 PM
The committee has their work cut out for them tonight. Let's see what the results are... I wouldn't be surprised if the current top 4 teams remain in the top 4.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on December 04, 2016, 01:51:48 AM
IMO either Washington or Ohio State has to be out to make room for Penn State. Washington for scheduling too weak non-conference, Ohio State for not even being in the championship game and losing to Penn State head-to-head.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 04, 2016, 07:40:05 AM
I'm not sure if they had a bad day and lost a playoff game that they still wouldn't be #1.
With buckeye logic it is settled on the field, final score. :old: unless of course it is your team that loss! Then head to head does not matter as much. :rofl
The guidelines are coffee coasters. Penn State argument. 1: 11 wins 2: Conference Champion (the best conference) 3: Beat Ohio State 4: Close loss in rival game and swamped by The Michigan DefenceTM.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on December 04, 2016, 07:43:50 AM
Let's just say it's a great day around my house today!!!!
We Are!!!!!
Now, please, please beat USC!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 04, 2016, 11:49:52 AM
It is sickening watching them rationalize their bs right now. :( A decision circling the buckeyes. They should eliminate these good ole boys picking teams based on the flavor of the year. From preseason rankings to the end, the fraternity and money rules the day. Not the game of football. :old: "Maybe next year championships will matter"..... bull loney. This was set up weeks ago, positioning teams to justify their logic.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 04, 2016, 12:14:42 PM
The committee guy was moving and a dodging like a long-tail cat in a room full of occupied rocking chairs.
There was clearly some money and politics in their decision. As I said before, it was going to be interesting to watch. I personally think Penn St should have been in ahead of Washington and maybe even OSU. I think he case of the latter, the committee has given strong precedence on conference championships and H2H. The case with the former is the huskies SoS - which was weak.
Anyway, I will watch the last few weeks of college football with glee and go into the 9 month doldrums again.
Roll Tide - beat them all.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 04, 2016, 12:33:30 PM
It is sickening watching them rationalize their bs right now. :( A decision circling the buckeyes. They should eliminate these good ole boys picking teams based on the flavor of the year. From preseason rankings to the end, the fraternity and money rules the day. Not the game of football. :old: "Maybe next year championships will matter"..... bull loney. This was set up weeks ago, positioning teams to justify their logic.
Explain how Michigan drops just two spots after losing to an unranked Iowa? They benefited from the same club. Point is, be careful of what you wish for.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Shuffler on December 04, 2016, 01:12:32 PM
The committee guy was moving and a dodging like a long-tail cat in a room full of occupied rocking chairs.
There was clearly some money and politics in their decision. As I said before, it was going to be interesting to watch. I personally think Penn St should have been in ahead of Washington and maybe even OSU. I think he case of the latter, the committee has given strong precedence on conference championships and H2H. The case with the former is the huskies SoS - which was weak.
Anyway, I will watch the last few weeks of college football with glee and go into the 9 month doldrums again.
Roll Tide - beat them all.
I see basketball scores already :uhoh
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 04, 2016, 02:10:43 PM
The wife and I will forego a New Year's party this year. I already have my response to invitations programmed.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on December 04, 2016, 02:20:16 PM
Ohio state should have been in nobody has a better resume then the buckeyes this year we lost one game on a blocked field goal to penn state. penn state lost twice they got rolled by TTUN and lost to a non conference pitt. had penn state or TTUN only lost one game they would have been in over washington no question
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 04, 2016, 02:30:42 PM
Ohio state should have been in nobody has a better resume then the buckeyes this year we lost one game on a blocked field goal to penn state. penn state lost twice they got rolled by TTUN and lost to a non conference pitt. had penn state or TTUN only lost one game they would have been in over washington no question
Rose colored glasses?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 04, 2016, 02:38:00 PM
With the exception of Alabama (for which there is absolutely no justification being even in the top 10 [yes, this is a joke]), I think that all of the playoff contenders -- the four that did make it, and the next several that didn't -- are all good enough to be in there.
However they decided it, they would have a solid group of teams. Despite my wish that Michigan were in there, I think Ohio State and Washington are both excellent teams. In fact, I think Ohio State and Washington would stand a decent chance of beating Clemson, but not by so much that Clemson isn't a good candidate as well.
Now, are they going to add a handicap system so that Alabama starts its games at -14 points or has to play with fewer than 11 men or something?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 04, 2016, 02:46:27 PM
Nope. Canceled the plane tickets. We don't want to fly to Atlanta!
GO HUSKIES! I sense an upset coming! Just a gut feeling!
To anyone that isn't a Bama fan, a good analogy would be the evil empire represented by the Tide (Saban can be the emperor and Jalen Hurts is Darth Vader). Saban, the team, Bama fans, are all a bunch of deplorable enemies hell-bent on dominating the entire CFB nation. Well, I guess that last part is true.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 04, 2016, 02:52:31 PM
To anyone that isn't a Bama fan, a good analogy would be the evil empire represented by the Tide (Saban can be the emperor and Jalen Hurts is Darth Vader). Saban, the team, Bama fans, are all a bunch of deplorable enemies hell-bent on dominating the entire CFB nation. Well, I guess that last part is true.
Whenever I think of Alabama, I can't but help to think of the Steely Dan song "Deacon Blues".
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 04, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
I like that song.. and most all of Steely Dan.
Not that I hate Michigan - I don't. But I sure hope FSU hangs 30 on them in a victory just for the lively discussion in this thread.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on December 04, 2016, 03:33:40 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on December 04, 2016, 07:29:19 PM
No ammo.Ohio state is one of the 4 best teams in CFB. they have 4 top 10 wins the only loss is to a top 10 team and the loss was in a well played game by both teams it came down to the wire. so we have played 5 top 10 teams thats not looking through roses glasses tell me another team who has that resume this season. washington lost a game in the worst conference in football clemson lost by a field goal weak conference. if anything clemson or washington shoulda been out before ohio state. say penn state makes it then you put clemson or washington in over the buckeyes then you are saying its ok to take the path of least resistence to get in? and playing a tough schedule means nothing at all? actually this shows playing a tough schedule out weighs beating cupcakes and will encourage teams to play tougher games down the road thats a win for every football fan
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on December 04, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
:ahand :rofl Top four is set and the committee did the right thing. So Rip, are you going to be throwing debris in Harry Reid's backyard after all? :devil
It needs to be revamped or removed. The NCAA Basketball tournament is 68 teams. 68 teams. How in the world does anyone think it is a decent idea or even the slightest bit fair to let 4 teams into a playoff? Not saying you need a 68 team bracket, but 16 would be nice.
Power conference teams who win the championship game of their conference get an automatic bid.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on December 04, 2016, 07:32:26 PM
It needs to be revamped or removed. The NCAA Basketball tournament is 68 teams. 68 teams. How in the world does anyone think it is a decent idea or even the slightest bit fair to let 4 teams into a playoff? Not saying you need a 68 team bracket, but 16 would be nice.
I feel like 8 would be better TBH.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on December 04, 2016, 07:35:26 PM
Do you know how many PO'ed people there would be if the basketball tourney went to 4 teams that were selected by a bunch of overpaid ultra melons who pick based on who they believe are best fit?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 04, 2016, 07:44:44 PM
No ammo.Ohio state is one of the 4 best teams in CFB. they have 4 top 10 wins the only loss is to a top 10 team and the loss was in a well played game by both teams it came down to the wire. so we have played 5 top 10 teams thats not looking through roses glasses tell me another team who has that resume this season. washington lost a game in the worst conference in football clemson lost by a field goal weak conference. if anything clemson or washington shoulda been out before ohio state. say penn state makes it then you put clemson or washington in over the buckeyes then you are saying its ok to take the path of least resistence to get in? and playing a tough schedule means nothing at all? actually this shows playing a tough schedule out weighs beating cupcakes and will encourage teams to play tougher games down the road thats a win for every football fan
Alabama has a better resume
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 04, 2016, 08:23:54 PM
Do you know how many PO'ed people there would be if the basketball tourney went to 4 teams that were selected by a bunch of overpaid ultra melons who pick based on who they believe are best fit?
Dont really care much for Basketball. But yea I see your point.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 04, 2016, 09:03:08 PM
It needs to be revamped or removed. The NCAA Basketball tournament is 68 teams. 68 teams. How in the world does anyone think it is a decent idea or even the slightest bit fair to let 4 teams into a playoff? Not saying you need a 68 team bracket, but 16 would be nice.
I would like more games in the playoff
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Power conference teams who win the championship game of their conference get an automatic bid.
Because conference championships are determined only on games inside the conference, they aren't the best gauge of the skill of a team. For example, let's say we had that system today and Florida managed to beat Alabama in the conference-championship game. Then Florida would go to the playoffs instead of Alabama, which is ridiculous. If the point is to have the *best* teams, then you need to go by overall record (maximum information), not just in-conference record (which neglects important information).
In the case of 8 teams or 16 teams in the playoffs, then -- in my opinion -- conference championships should be replaced by semi-final playoff games.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 04, 2016, 09:04:40 PM
To anyone that isn't a Bama fan, a good analogy would be the evil empire represented by the Tide (Saban can be the emperor and Jalen Hurts is Darth Vader). Saban, the team, Bama fans, are all a bunch of deplorable enemies hell-bent on dominating the entire CFB nation. Well, I guess that last part is true.
A evil empire of collard plaid shirts and medium cut side part hair :noid
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 04, 2016, 09:04:48 PM
Because conference championships are determined only on games inside the conference, they aren't the best gauge of the skill of a team. For example, let's say we had that system today and Florida managed to beat Alabama in the conference-championship game. Then Florida would go to the playoffs instead of Alabama, which is ridiculous. If the point is to have the *best* teams, then you need to go by overall record (maximum information), not just in-conference record (which neglects important information).
In the case of 8 teams or 16 teams in the playoffs, then -- in my opinion -- conference championships should be replaced by semi-final playoff games.
It's not that difficult. If conference champions go to the tournament then the conference championships already is the semis, or qualifier or round of 16
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Oldman731 on December 04, 2016, 09:30:11 PM
No ammo.Ohio state is one of the 4 best teams in CFB. they have 4 top 10 wins the only loss is to a top 10 team and the loss was in a well played game by both teams it came down to the wire. so we have played 5 top 10 teams thats not looking through roses glasses tell me another team who has that resume this season. washington lost a game in the worst conference in football clemson lost by a field goal weak conference. if anything clemson or washington shoulda been out before ohio state. say penn state makes it then you put clemson or washington in over the buckeyes then you are saying its ok to take the path of least resistence to get in? and playing a tough schedule means nothing at all? actually this shows playing a tough schedule out weighs beating cupcakes and will encourage teams to play tougher games down the road thats a win for every football fan
There is no arguing with a devoted Buckeye fan. Don't bother to try.
- oldman (...heh...we are....Penn State...)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 04, 2016, 09:42:33 PM
It's not that difficult. If conference champions go to the tournament then the conference championships already is the semis, or qualifier or round of 16
What I mean is that if you want the best teams, you choose based on overall record, not on record only within your conference. (This, by the way, is mathematically provable. :aok)
So, I do not like conference championships judged (as it's done today) by in-conference record. I would prefer a semi-final where you pick the two teams with the highest CFP or AP ranking.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 04, 2016, 09:54:49 PM
I think 8 game CFP is in the future. But don't fool yourselves into thinking it's an easy thing. Money is the big issue with the conference commissioners. Until it becomes more profitable with a CFP game vs a conference championship, it will not happen.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 04, 2016, 09:56:17 PM
This concept of best team is false. The game should be settled on the field. This problem began with money and bowls and has now been twisted down a slippery slope like our traffic laws.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 04, 2016, 10:04:34 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on December 04, 2016, 11:16:54 PM
please explain how bama has a better resume they played in a weaker conference thats what buckeye fans heard for years bama has to play a top ten match up every week you guy play cupcakes now bama is playing cupcakes we are playing top ten teams and bamas resume is better lol looking through them cremson glasses much.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 05, 2016, 12:00:23 AM
please explain how bama has a better resume they played in a weaker conference thats what buckeye fans heard for years bama has to play a top ten match up every week you guy play cupcakes now bama is playing cupcakes we are playing top ten teams and bamas resume is better lol looking through them cremson glasses much.
Weaker? :rofl Alabama played eight ranked teams. Florida? Four. LSU? Five. Miss? Seven. OSU played four ranked teams. UM? Two. Nebraska? three. Wisconsin? Six.
Just figured I would hand you some rose colored glasses. At least be a realist in terms of accepting the weak schedules and not shirking your own conferences SEVERELY weak strength of schedule.
Edit: don't even get me started on Clemson. Three? At least the Huskies faced five.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 05, 2016, 12:23:54 AM
Problem expanding the playoffs is answering the question "How many teams fans will be able to travel to more games?"
Four is enough. This is College not the NFL where players make their livelihood's. It is not wise in my opinion to extend the season over 2 games.
The FCS is doing it now and attendance suffers as well. Four is plenty in FBS playoffs. The well being of the players is also a consideration.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 05, 2016, 12:43:41 AM
Problem expanding the playoffs is answering the question "How many teams fans will be able to travel to more games?"
Four is enough. This is College not the NFL where players make their livelihood's. It is not wise in my opinion to extend the season over 2 games.
The FCS is doing it now and attendance suffers as well. Four is plenty in FBS playoffs. The well being of the players is also a consideration.
Making a 16 field playoff where the first round is conference championships would only add one playoff week for 8 teams, to the season. The benefits of this model include: 1:) No committee, holy rankings, corruption and bias. 2:) Teams would be seated by record and head to head. 3:) This model is similar to all other sports. 4:) One playoff champion. 5:) Increased importance to every game 6:) Keep the bowl game TV money 7:) More high quality football! 8:) No more Kirk Herbstreit telling me his opinion is truth.
Pointless bowl games struggle for attendance. Playoff games are SOLD OUT!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on December 05, 2016, 06:42:45 AM
Problem expanding the playoffs is answering the question "How many teams fans will be able to travel to more games?"
Four is enough. This is College not the NFL where players make their livelihood's. It is not wise in my opinion to extend the season over 2 games.
The FCS is doing it now and attendance suffers as well. Four is plenty in FBS playoffs. The well being of the players is also a consideration.
Seems to work fine for NCAAM.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on December 05, 2016, 08:36:02 AM
If all of D1 college football could merge to form 4 super conferences, then it would be very easy to implement an 8 team playoff with the Conference Championship game being the first of the playoff games. This would be followed by the semi-finals a few weeks after and the national championship a week later. You wouldn't have to add more games to the season.
PS: I would be in favor of revamping the criteria necessary in selecting the teams to play for the conference championships. We should look at total W/L record and rankings rather than exclusively looking at conference only record. Unless of course, we eliminate OOC games altogether, then by all means use the existing selection method.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on December 05, 2016, 08:46:35 AM
Problem expanding the playoffs is answering the question "How many teams fans will be able to travel to more games?"
Four is enough. This is College not the NFL where players make their livelihood's. It is not wise in my opinion to extend the season over 2 games.
The FCS is doing it now and attendance suffers as well. Four is plenty in FBS playoffs. The well being of the players is also a consideration.
I agree on the well being of the players but that's it. Let the boys play. They would be in favor themselves.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on December 05, 2016, 11:49:15 AM
And Purdue gets Jeff Brohm from Western Kentucy, not Fleck or Miles. Fleck is going to go somewhere way bigger, I think. I know nothing about Brohm but most people think we did well to hire him over Baylor and Cincy.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: mbailey on December 05, 2016, 12:30:25 PM
Penn State is also a very young football team. And a very good one! They can only improve. Looking forward to next years' BIG conference games.
The East appears to be loaded. Coach did a great job at PSU considering the sanctions. He with no doubt should be elected Coach of the year at least in the BIG!
It isn't close in that regard. Hands down need nothing more be said. Well done Coach Francis! He is the front runner imho as Coach of the Year in FBS football.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 05, 2016, 05:22:57 PM
One of the things that is difficult with respect to strength of schedule is that, when the schedules are made, folks don't really know what the strength will be. Some teams schedule what, prior to the season, seems like would be a tough schedule, but then the teams that were supposed to be highly ranked end up not being highly ranked -- or vice versa.
For example, by mid season, Washington had played Oregon and Stanford. Pre-season, that looked pretty tough. By mid season, that didn't look tough, and the media was complaining that Washington had a weak schedule. Yet by the end of the season, Stanford was back up some, and Washington had also played Utah, USC, Washington State, and Colorado, all of which ended up being pretty good.
Fortunately, it's only the final CFP ranking that matters, and by then, how good or bad various teams are is fully known.
The four teams in the playoff all played some pretty good teams. Judging by final rankings, Washington played 4 ranked teams (Stanford 18, Utah 19, USC 9, Colorado 10); Ohio State played 4 (Oklahoma 7, Wisconsin 8, Penn State 5, Michigan 6); Clemson played 3 (Louisville 13, Florida State 11, Virginia Tech 22); Alabama played 5 (USC 9, Tennessee 21, LSU 20, Auburn 14, Florida 17). Then there were a bunch of teams not ranked but still good teams, or teams that could play very tough for a rivalry game or on a given day.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 05, 2016, 07:12:44 PM
One of the things that is difficult with respect to strength of schedule is that, when the schedules are made, folks don't really know what the strength will be. Some teams schedule what, prior to the season, seems like would be a tough schedule, but then the teams that were supposed to be highly ranked end up not being highly ranked -- or vice versa.
For example, by mid season, Washington had played Oregon and Stanford. Pre-season, that looked pretty tough. By mid season, that didn't look tough, and the media was complaining that Washington had a weak schedule. Yet by the end of the season, Stanford was back up some, and Washington had also played Utah, USC, Washington State, and Colorado, all of which ended up being pretty good.
Fortunately, it's only the final CFP ranking that matters, and by then, how good or bad various teams are is fully known.
The four teams in the playoff all played some pretty good teams. Judging by final rankings, Washington played 4 ranked teams (Stanford 18, Utah 19, USC 9, Colorado 10); Ohio State played 4 (Oklahoma 7, Wisconsin 8, Penn State 5, Michigan 6); Clemson played 3 (Louisville 13, Florida State 11, Virginia Tech 22); Alabama played 5 (USC 9, Tennessee 21, LSU 20, Auburn 14, Florida 17). Then there were a bunch of teams not ranked but still good teams, or teams that could play very tough for a rivalry game or on a given day.
Brooke, one thing the BIG did as a conference is decide to not schedule FCS teams.
Now in that instance it does make some schedules look stronger. No longer scheduling the cupcakes is a considered to be a major plus. Many teams still do schedule FCS teams early. Some mid season.
BCS committee said they do consider this. Not a major point but in a few instances that could keep some teams out of the playoffs. Many variables in their decision who to put in and who to leave out.
Best thing to do is win all your games like Alabama. Not to much thought had to be applied to rank them #1. At this point I can not see anyone beating them. It may happen but as of now they are my #1.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 05, 2016, 10:53:13 PM
You are probably right. But . . . there was January 2015. :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 06, 2016, 07:17:04 AM
If we can break the mold they established for a minute. This selection committee picks the best team concept. A true playoff system does not look for the best team. It is decided by results not opinion. The influence of opinion leaves question and introduces bias. A true playoff would let western Michigan win a title. Not because they were the best, but because they won. :old:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 06, 2016, 07:53:39 AM
If we can break the mold they established for a minute. This selection committee picks the best team concept. A true playoff system does not look for the best team. It is decided by results not opinion. The influence of opinion leaves question and introduces bias. A true playoff would let western Michigan win a title. Not because they were the best, but because they won. :old:
Not ever gonna happen. This isn't a professional league that drafts players (thank God). An 8 team playoff is conceptionally achievable but the conferences would need to universally agree - and some teams just don't have the bank roll to fund what it would take. I would guess Western Mich tickets cost a lot less than OSU, Bama, LSU, etc.
Do you want forced parity between all FBS schools as well?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 06, 2016, 08:36:40 AM
Not ever gonna happen. This isn't a professional league that drafts players (thank God). An 8 team playoff is conceptionally achievable but the conferences would need to universally agree - and some teams just don't have the bank roll to fund what it would take. I would guess Western Mich tickets cost a lot less than OSU, Bama, LSU, etc.
Do you want forced parity between all FBS schools as well?
True, it would be a big threat to the establishment. :devil
I think the conferences would benefit by being the first round of the playoffs. Small schools would get better recruits because they have a chance. Schools will still schedule big non conference games for money especially when a loss will not cost millions. Media can have their rankings.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 06, 2016, 11:30:41 AM
I wish to see the best 4 college teams in the playoffs. I remember watching Cincinnati play Florida, and Michigan State play Alabama. Who wants to spend thousands of dollars to watch games like that?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 06, 2016, 01:54:03 PM
MSU was 12-1 with wins over OSU, Iowa, Oregon, Michigan. Ohio obviously had a better team but could not finagle their way in like this year. Tough break. MSU earned the spot in the game. They even played well for 1.75 quarters. :lol I feel we've been duped by a system that has opened up pandoras box. Of course, if all subserve like this year we have no problem.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 06, 2016, 02:15:25 PM
"If you don't win your conference you shouldn't be playing for a national championship"
Urban Meyer, 2006
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2016, 04:01:08 PM
Our huskies are a 14 pt underdog. I know most of you are too young to remember 1978 but that's when I moved to WA state.
Going into the 1978 Rose Bowl, the Huskies were 20 point underdogs against Michigan, the largest spread of any Bowl game that year. After all, the UW had started the season 1-3, and third year coach Don James was rumored to be fired at the end of the year. UW lost to UCLA, and a few weeks later watched on TV as USC came from behind and beat UCLA with a field goal to end their game, putting the Dawgs in the Rose Bowl for the first time since 1964.
Some guy named Warren Moon was the UW quarterback. (at 18:15, sideline video of Moon when he had hair, and lots of it) Moon was very inconsistent early in the season and in the previous year.
Sportswriters for the Seattle Times and P-I said it was time to bench him as the season went on. Back then, some still had problems with a black qb. James stayed with his guy and ignored the criticism. Spider Gaines (what a great name for a wideout) and Chris Roland (who replaced an injured sophomore sensation local TB "the Real" Joe Steele) were on the offense; Michael Jackson, Nesby Glascow, and Bruce Harrell led the defense.
Curt Gowdy and Charlie Jones on the call for NBC. This was apparently recorded on the Portland NBC affiliate.
America watched and was stunned as Dawg fans went nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhTTSyqIuZA
I wonder what ever happened to that Moon guy?
This 2016 team reminds me A LOT of that 1978 team. If I were a betting man, I'd take that 14 pts and the Huskies! :)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 06, 2016, 04:03:46 PM
Our huskies are a 14 pt underdog. I know most of you are too young to remember 1978 but that's when I moved to WA state.
Going into the 1978 Rose Bowl, the Huskies were 20 point underdogs against Michigan, the largest spread of any Bowl game that year. After all, the UW had started the season 1-3, and third year coach Don James was rumored to be fired at the end of the year. UW lost to UCLA, and a few weeks later watched on TV as USC came from behind and beat UCLA with a field goal to end their game, putting the Dawgs in the Rose Bowl for the first time since 1964.
Some guy named Warren Moon was the UW quarterback. (at 18:15, sideline video of Moon when he had hair, and lots of it) Moon was very inconsistent early in the season and in the previous year.
Sportswriters for the Seattle Times and P-I said it was time to bench him as the season went on. Back then, some still had problems with a black qb. James stayed with his guy and ignored the criticism. Spider Gaines (what a great name for a wideout) and Chris Roland (who replaced an injured sophomore sensation local TB "the Real" Joe Steele) were on the offense; Michael Jackson, Nesby Glascow, and Bruce Harrell led the defense.
Curt Gowdy and Charlie Jones on the call for NBC. This was apparently recorded on the Portland NBC affiliate.
America watched and was stunned as Dawg fans went nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhTTSyqIuZA
I wonder what ever happened to that Moon guy?
This 2016 team reminds me A LOT of that 1978 team. If I were a betting man, I'd take that 14 pts and the Huskies! :)
No rational Bama fan isn't taking UW seriously, least of all Coach Saban.
That's why the game must be played, and I am looking forward to 31 December.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on December 06, 2016, 04:21:04 PM
My concern is the 3rd and 4th Q. What Bama does is wear ya down. We'll see if the Dawgs will hang with them.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 06, 2016, 04:36:29 PM
MSU was 12-1 with wins over OSU, Iowa, Oregon, Michigan. Ohio obviously had a better team but could not finagle their way in like this year. Tough break. MSU earned the spot in the game. They even played well for 1.75 quarters. :lol I feel we've been duped by a system that has opened up pandoras box. Of course, if all subserve like this year we have no problem.
OSU beat Michigan. No finagling was required. 0-2 so far against OSU.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 06, 2016, 04:40:28 PM
"If you don't win your conference you shouldn't be playing for a national championship"
Urban Meyer, 2006
I agree with that, regardless of Conference.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 07, 2016, 01:58:22 AM
Nah. That way if florida beat alabama, florida would be in the playoffs when alabama is clearly the better team. Conf playoffs ignore non conf games which is igorong information content on information theory terms.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 07, 2016, 02:01:46 AM
Also last year osu vs msu is another example. Yes osu lost to msu, but everyone knew osu was the better team.
Thats why the committee did it differently this year.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 07, 2016, 04:41:09 AM
Nah. That way if florida beat alabama, florida would be in the playoffs when alabama is clearly the better team. Conf playoffs ignore non conf games which is igorong information content on information theory terms.
careful, you may venture into a argument you don't want. :evil: Ignoring not making to a conference championship, ignoring playing one less game, ignoring head to head match ups. We should also remember noncoference games are preseason, that could be a stretch but they are the first two three games a year. Also, they do count as total record, and that is a actionable factor in determining eligibility for conference championships aka the playoffs round 1.
If OSU got in ahead of MSU last year, Herbstreit would be hanging on the corner of Abbott and Grand River. :old:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on December 07, 2016, 07:08:58 AM
Nah. That way if florida beat alabama, florida would be in the playoffs when alabama is clearly the better team. Conf playoffs ignore non conf games which is igorong information content on information theory terms.
There was plenty of talk about how PSU didn't get in because they lost two games, one to Michigan, and one to Pitt who is non-conference.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 07, 2016, 03:39:14 PM
Their 4th string guy is probably still pretty good! ;)
The last guy to transfer was the fourth stringer :bhead
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Plazus on December 07, 2016, 04:04:46 PM
I've always felt that Alabama's QB recruiting was mostly "meh"... except for that AJ MCarron guy. That dude was a baller. In any case, since they've been switching to a spread offense, the QB recruiting may improve for the better I think since high school dual threat QBs are the hottest things in high school and college football right now.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 12, 2016, 06:05:03 PM
I don't think he'll leave unless he tires of it. At Michigan, he is exalted and the Keeper of a Legacy. As a Michigan graduate, I don't see how anything else could be a better. :aok
Also, there is the matter of beating Ohio State, being in the playoffs, and being national champion -- none of which has been achieved yet, all remaining as the loftiest and most-difficult goals to strive for into the future. :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 13, 2016, 12:47:00 AM
I don't think he'll leave unless he tires of it. At Michigan, he is exalted and the Keeper of a Legacy. As a Michigan graduate, I don't see how anything else could be a better. :aok
Also, there is the matter of beating Ohio State, being in the playoffs, and being national champion -- none of which has been achieved yet, all remaining as the loftiest and most-difficult goals to strive for into the future. :aok
Oh I don't know..........ten million sounds like something to strive for. Hope he stays.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 13, 2016, 05:05:54 AM
In other news, Urban Meyer Wiener was offered the job of Head Coach for The Paducah Pop Warner Midget Tornados. The offer was reportedly worth one ribbon and a pot luck dinner. This is a career opportunity for Coach Wiener, "I am really excited about the offer. I would be thrilled to coach kids that can read." The Midget Tornados have a average age of 14 and a literacy rate of 95%. This would be a huge improvement for Coach Wiener who would be leaving ohios 3.2% literacy rate, the lowest in the world. Former player under Coach Wiener, Ezekiel Elliott was quoted being excited for Urban. "Hoohardin da gew foots smatt derr, hah ha ha". Well that's a good point Mr. Elliott, Coach Wiener should have plenty short players to help keep his shoes tied tight.
Good Luck Coach Wiener :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on December 13, 2016, 07:07:31 AM
Oh I don't know..........ten million sounds like something to strive for. Hope he stays.
It definitely would be on the table. Jim is the type of coach who wants to be an NFL head coach. Sure he is coaching his Alma mater, but he has always embraced the NFL. He also has made it very clear that the west coast is a preference.
Not saying it will happen, but it is a very plausible scenario.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 13, 2016, 11:03:32 AM
Don't know why he would leave. He has a great program and it will only get better as he continues picking up good players. If he dose leave, it will be years before MU gets another great program unless they can get a coach that can make it work in his first year.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 13, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
I just don't see him leaving at this point. He is recruiting well, UM is playing championship level football, and he probably has a clause to give him a huge bonus to win the B1G and NCAA championships.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Masherbrum on December 13, 2016, 12:39:48 PM
Don't know why he would leave. He has a great program and it will only get better as he continues picking up good players. If he dose leave, it will be years before MU gets another great program unless they can get a coach that can make it work in his first year.
Enter Les Miles or any other big name coach.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 13, 2016, 01:01:48 PM
I just don't see him leaving at this point. He is recruiting well, UM is playing championship level football, and he probably has a clause to give him a huge bonus to win the B1G and NCAA championships.
Its the same thing every time an FL coach is fired they talk about Harbaugh going there, could it happen sure but is it likely to happen? No next big name to mentioned is going to be Jon Gruden just like everytime an nfl coach loses his job. The media just throw stuff against the wall trying to be the first to "report" something in case something sticks.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 13, 2016, 03:47:31 PM
Previous to LSU Les Miles was the Coach of the team up north. I don't know if he would be welcome there.
Don't think for one second LSU wouldn't take Saban back even after all the butthurt and vitriol. Just an example.. Miles is not on the level of Harbaugh, Saban, or Myer.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on December 13, 2016, 05:19:12 PM
I've always felt that Alabama's QB recruiting was mostly "meh"... except for that AJ MCarron guy. That dude was a baller. In any case, since they've been switching to a spread offense, the QB recruiting may improve for the better I think since high school dual threat QBs are the hottest things in high school and college football right now.
To be honest they dont really need a outstanding QB. They have an amazing OL and plenty of good RB. Plus in their offense quick passes arent hard
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 14, 2016, 09:49:39 AM
It definitely would be on the table. Jim is the type of coach who wants to be an NFL head coach. Sure he is coaching his Alma mater, but he has always embraced the NFL. He also has made it very clear that the west coast is a preference.
Not saying it will happen, but it is a very plausible scenario.
Will Jim go back to the NFL? Maybe but I doubt it will happen until he can say he was one of the greatest coaches in Michigan football.
You are not allowed to post three posts in a row without replies unless you are drinking.
..or too lazy to multi quote? I mean thats alot of cntrl-c and cntrl-v..jive turkey
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: shotgunneeley on December 29, 2016, 08:47:19 PM
One emotion to display my feelings for the Ark vs. VA Tech "Belk" bowl: :bhead
That was the weirdest friggin game. Same exact repeat performance as the last game with Missouri. I blame Voodoo, black magic, and Russian hacking all in the second half.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 31, 2016, 01:23:55 AM
:cry
Orange bowl . . .
:cry
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ripsnort on December 31, 2016, 11:47:02 AM
Saban has a UW Connection. He was an assistant under Don James. In other words, he became a great coach by one of the greatest coaches. :)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on December 31, 2016, 05:38:17 PM
Great games the past two days.
Michigan fans have nothing to be ashamed of.
Bama is waiting... let's do this!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 31, 2016, 07:50:29 PM
I was impressed by Washington's defense in the Alabama game, and the offensive line was able to give Browning some time to pass here and there. They played a respectable game given that it was Alabama.
In the Orange Bowl, Michigan had times of playing poorly and times of playing great. In the end, the great came up a point short. :cry It was a super-exciting game, though, right down to the last 30 seconds -- I will give it that.
I was really sad to see Jake Butt stay to play football this year (instead of going pro after last year), stay to play in the bowl game (instead of skipping it), when folks are saying he'd go in the 1st round of the draft, and end up with a torn ACL during the game. That really sucks.
I was sad to see Jabrill Peppers get injured in practice the freaking day before the game and be unable to play. Wow, did that seem to throw off Michigan's organization of its defense until they worked out adjustments during the game.
After this season, Michigan loses about 3/4 of its starters. I hope that they can pull off what Ohio State did this year with integrating new players.
Also, I'm hoping for Ohio State to win it all (although at moment looking bleak for them).
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 31, 2016, 07:56:09 PM
They should have looked at Alabama at the end of the regular season and just declared them #1 and let the other teams all play for #2. Even if someone ends up beating Alabama in the final game, I think they still are the best team.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on December 31, 2016, 08:26:03 PM
Yep, all of those are ones I wanted to win (not really predictions).
However, just predicting based on which I thought would win, I still would have guessed that Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State would win, so I'd still be wrong on those -- not by much in the case of Michigan and Penn State -- but by a gigantic amount in the case of Ohio State.
Alas, my beloved Michigan. To lose 3 games -- but by a collective sum of four points . . . 4 freaking points! :bhead
Next year might be hard for Michigan losing so many starters, and a few coaches got poached. But we'll see.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BaldEagl on January 03, 2017, 02:34:14 AM
I think I might have posted earlier in this thread, Clemson has a very good team this year. I'm not sure I realized how good until they whooped Ohio State. They'll give Alabama a good game.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: branch37 on January 03, 2017, 06:18:51 AM
Boomer Sooner! :rock
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on January 03, 2017, 01:14:18 PM
Tennessee OC Stepped down and headed to Indiana Ill pray for any fans up there.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 03, 2017, 05:51:21 PM
(By the way, I sent you a message about your question on patches.)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 03, 2017, 06:06:52 PM
Minnesota has fired football coach Claeys as a result of massive PCness choking off all blood supply to the brain. However, if they manage to get Western Michigan's Fleck, it might turn out OK. Might there be low odds (but not all the way to zero) of getting Les Miles?
Where will Les Miles end up? I'd think we would see something happen soon.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: JOACH1M on January 03, 2017, 11:44:56 PM
Minnesota has fired football coach Claeys as a result of massive PCness choking off all blood supply to the brain. However, if they manage to get Western Michigan's Fleck, it might turn out OK. Might there be low odds (but not all the way to zero) of getting Les Miles?
Where will Les Miles end up? I'd think we would see something happen soon.
PJ Fleck isn't going anywhere
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 06, 2017, 12:22:12 AM
I want more college football. I don't want to have to wait. :cry
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: JOACH1M on January 06, 2017, 10:51:12 AM
Me too. Can't wait to see the team BAMA comes up with. It'll be even better than the last one. :x
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on January 12, 2017, 06:22:16 PM
Ohio states recruiting class looks really strong too and also alot of changes to bring explosion back to the offense.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 12, 2017, 06:59:40 PM
Despite getting crushed by Clemson, Ohio State was a good team last season, and they'll be good next season.
Michigan will lose a giant amount of talent, but it has had great recruiting classes last year and this year, so it could still be good next season. It depends how good they are at getting new guys up to speed.
Penn State will not be a sleeper next season now that people have seen how good they are.
Michigan State can't be as bad next season -- I think nowhere to go but up for them.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on August 31, 2017, 01:46:44 PM
I got excited a little today, college football on tv....buckeyes...not sure i can stomach it. ugh, I think Ill make it a I U nite. good excuse. :devil
I U BABY! :rock
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on August 31, 2017, 01:53:29 PM
ITS FOOTBALLL TIMEEEEEEEE IN TENNESSEE
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: RUSH1 on August 31, 2017, 03:08:42 PM
Looks like my Gators might not have enough bodies to take the field against Michigan Saturday if this campus charge card scandal keeps claiming players. Nice early Christmas present for the Wolverines.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on August 31, 2017, 07:10:45 PM
Looks like my Gators might not have enough bodies to take the field against Michigan Saturday if this campus charge card scandal keeps claiming players. Nice early Christmas present for the Wolverines.
Kinda sad that as a collegiate athlete you can scam thousands of dollars from people and you sit out one game :rofl
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 01, 2017, 12:14:28 AM
Looks like my Gators might not have enough bodies to take the field against Michigan Saturday if this campus charge card scandal keeps claiming players. Nice early Christmas present for the Wolverines.
As a Wolverine, I'd like it better if all your guys were playing.
By the way, my daughter (who is 7) will be rooting for the Gators, because she loves alligators. I expect her to grow out of it, though. :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: puller on September 01, 2017, 08:50:27 AM
BOOMER!!!!!!
That is all... :rock
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Arlo on September 01, 2017, 09:52:06 AM
(http://a.espncdn.com/i/teamlogos/ncaa/500/2641.png?w=288) VS. (http://a.espncdn.com/i/teamlogos/ncaa/500/331.png?w=288)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: RUSH1 on September 01, 2017, 07:09:16 PM
Yeah, I think it would have been a good game. Both teams with a lot of new talented faces squaring off. As for your daughter rooting for UF ... :rock.
It can still be a great game. The Gators likely have some guys who are very good but otherwise would not get the chance to play tomorrow, and they might surprise us. Also, Michigan has so many new players -- who knows how they will do?
I'm going to watch it at our local British pub, have a pint in Zack's honor, watch the game, and enjoy it mightily. When college football season is over, I'm very eager for the start of the next one -- and here we are! :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on September 02, 2017, 10:28:51 PM
Well, Purdue looked better than they have any time in the past 4-5 years, even in losing. Amazing what a change in coaching can do.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 03, 2017, 07:46:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/waykC8d.png)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 03, 2017, 07:50:59 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 08, 2017, 02:29:07 AM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 08, 2017, 02:45:07 AM
:rofl :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 09, 2017, 02:02:34 PM
Run the damn ball Sark.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on September 09, 2017, 10:05:52 PM
Ohio state sucks. They should forfit the whole season. How embarrassing to loose like that.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 10, 2017, 04:00:14 AM
Well . . . Oklahoma is a very good team.
I was hoping that Ohio State would win everything until they play Michigan, and that Michigan would then beat them. Hey, I've got my goals, you know? :aok
Of course, Michigan didn't have the easiest time on offense vs. the Bearcats, so they've got some work to do, I know.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on September 10, 2017, 09:31:20 AM
I was hoping that Ohio State would win everything until they play Michigan, and that Michigan would then beat them. Hey, I've got my goals, you know? :aok
Of course, Michigan didn't have the easiest time on offense vs. the Bearcats, so they've got some work to do, I know.
Yea, I expect that it will be Michigan year to beat Ohio state. Buckeyes did not play like they do. I expected a really close game.....but last night was terrible. When you get beat that bad, at home, against a team with a new coach........you know you are not as good.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on September 10, 2017, 09:45:33 AM
I was hoping that Ohio State would win everything until they play Michigan, and that Michigan would then beat them. Hey, I've got my goals, you know? :aok
Of course, Michigan didn't have the easiest time on offense vs. the Bearcats, so they've got some work to do, I know.
Michigan needs time to get really good. They can play at a elite level with solid blocking. Ty is looking good. At some point Speight needs to be accurate.
Ohio is ready for two losses and that's a good thing. They got a preview yesterday, down Cincinnati down osu. :D
Go Blue!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 10, 2017, 12:17:56 PM
:confused:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 10, 2017, 12:18:49 PM
was ugly most the game against the Bearcats gotta get better. Looking at a 2-3 loss season I think that right side of the oline really looks questionable
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 10, 2017, 06:30:40 PM
YIKES!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 11, 2017, 04:28:07 AM
I'm content to see how it goes for Michigan. They lost a lot of guys, have a lot of young guys, and I didn't think they'd step in and have it all working right away. I was pleasantly surprised by how well and quickly the defense got up to speed. The offense is taking longer, but as you say, they've got several bright spots there, and we'll see if they are able to improve week by week.
As for Ohio State, I would not bet on them continuing to look like how they did playing Oklahoma. They have a great coach and a lot of talented guys. I think they will still be very good.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on September 12, 2017, 01:26:09 PM
if you click the "share" button below the youtube video, then copy the given "youtu.be" address, the video will share properly on this BBS.
:salute
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Arlo on September 12, 2017, 08:51:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5O6FvPm.png)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Nathan60 on September 15, 2017, 08:41:45 PM
At what point do you just stop watching, or do you keep watching because it's like looking away from a train wreck?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 15, 2017, 08:53:40 PM
This thread has turned into the BIG 10 wish I was a winner place. When you folks come back to reality, please let us folks in the south know. We love to talk college football.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 15, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
This thread has turned into the BIG 10 wish I was a winner place. When you folks come back to reality, please let us folks in the south know. We love to talk college football.
Let's be more precise: "Big 10 wish I were a winner AND SPECIAL!" :aok
I love those Wolverines. They will win some and probably lose some, but I love watching the games and talking about it. I'm happy if they have a good season, get into a bowl, and win it.
Only Alabama can usually sit around and gloat about how great they are. Can anyone can give them a good challenge this year? Clemson again? No one? I don't know and will like seeing it pan out whichever way it goes.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 15, 2017, 09:24:39 PM
Let's be more precise: "Big 10 wish I were a winner AND SPECIAL!" :aok
I love those Wolverines. They will win some and probably lose some, but I love watching the games and talking about it. I'm happy if they have a good season, get into a bowl, and win it.
Only Alabama can usually sit around and gloat about how great they are. Can anyone can give them a good challenge this year? Clemson again? No one? I don't know and will like seeing it pan out whichever way it goes.
Brooke, come on man. Notre Dame, Michigan, USC - fans cans sit around and gloat about how great you were.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 15, 2017, 09:58:53 PM
Brooke, come on man. Notre Dame, Michigan, USC - fans cans sit around and gloat about how great you were.
Maybe ones who are 80 years old, but not the ones I know (and I'm no spring chicken). We are well aware of the Rich Rod and Hoke years and are now interested in the Harbaugh years. We're looking forward, not back. :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 15, 2017, 11:08:12 PM
Maybe ones who are 80 years old, but not the ones I know (and I'm no spring chicken). We are well aware of the Rich Rod and Hoke years and are now interested in the Harbaugh years. We're looking forward, not back. :aok
Best to you and your school. Hope to see a matchup in a bowl game.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on September 15, 2017, 11:45:31 PM
It will take some games to know how the Wolverine offense goes. Defense so far looks pretty good.
I'll also be interested to see how it goes for Michigan State and for Ohio State. Michigan State last year was bizarrely bad, so I'm wondering what they'll be like this year. Ohio State has a bunch of great players and a great coach, but looked totally flat vs. Oklahoma. Will they remain that way or, like last year after the loss to Penn State, look much better afterwards?
As for Alabama, I suspect they might dominate everyone again this year. Will Clemson be able to challenge them again in the playoffs? I don't know.
What teams do you think would give Alabama the biggest challenge?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 16, 2017, 10:35:38 AM
It will take some games to know how the Wolverine offense goes. Defense so far looks pretty good.
I'll also be interested to see how it goes for Michigan State and for Ohio State. Michigan State last year was bizarrely bad, so I'm wondering what they'll be like this year. Ohio State has a bunch of great players and a great coach, but looked totally flat vs. Oklahoma. Will they remain that way or, like last year after the loss to Penn State, look much better afterwards?
As for Alabama, I suspect they might dominate everyone again this year. Will Clemson be able to challenge them again in the playoffs? I don't know.
What teams do you think would give Alabama the biggest challenge?
Too early to tell for me to speculate. Bama has weakness on the offensive side of the ball too. They are vulnerable
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Arlo on September 16, 2017, 12:42:39 PM
Too early to tell for me to speculate. Bama has weakness on the offensive side of the ball too. They are vulnerable
Sec wise its gotta be Auburn until they meet Georgia in the championship, unless South Carolina surprises and wins the east. Even against Auburn, Jarrett Stidham is not Cam Newton so alot of War Tiger fans may be disappointed this year, big difference between Big 12 and SEC defenses. It may very well end up being Alabama vs Clemson III and I wouldn't mind that. Maybe Louisville can really be something this year God knows their QB is phenomenal.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: -ammo- on September 16, 2017, 04:21:21 PM
Sec wise its gotta be Auburn until they meet Georgia in the championship, unless South Carolina surprises and wins the east. Even against Auburn, Jarrett Stidham is not Cam Newton so alot of War Tiger fans may be disappointed this year, big difference between Big 12 and SEC defenses. It may very well end up being Alabama vs Clemson III and I wouldn't mind that. Maybe Louisville can really be something this year God knows their QB is phenomenal.
Stidham looked terrible against Clemson's defense. Auburn's offense looked bad for that matter. However, there is a lot of football to play and teams generally improve as they go.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on September 16, 2017, 06:31:46 PM
Boilers just destroyed Missouri in Missouri. It was embarrassing, like they were a FCS team, let alone power 5, let alone SEC.
So Brooke, you coming to West Lafayette next week? Its homecoming and I'm flying in to the game. If yes I'll tell you where my tailgate group does its thing.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on September 16, 2017, 07:15:02 PM
Purdue plays on grass. Good for them.
Go Blue!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Oldman731 on September 16, 2017, 08:07:56 PM
So Brooke, you coming to West Lafayette next week? Its homecoming and I'm flying in to the game. If yes I'll tell you where my tailgate group does its thing.
That is awesome and most gracious. :aok. It would be great fun, but i likely wont be at any michigan games this year, alas.
Congratulations on the missouri win. Very impressive.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on September 16, 2017, 09:44:22 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on September 24, 2017, 05:44:20 PM
if you like football, and have not laughed today...i give you this. https://twitter.com/HobieFOX9/status/912022312408379392/video/1
enjoy!
:cheers:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Arlo on September 24, 2017, 07:38:30 PM
My all time fave. Still.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 16, 2017, 01:13:32 AM
Hmm. Not much talking about college football lately.
Yet . . .
What an unusual weekend of upsets it was!
I thought my beloved Michigan would get a chance to move up in the rankings (since they didn't lose, and their one loss was to a now-ranked team), but no -- they moved *down* two. Oh, well.
If they manage to beat Penn State, they will move up! :banana:
They just need the offense to start working before Saturday.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on October 16, 2017, 04:21:26 AM
Buckeyes have a Bye week and then we play penn state should be a good match up and with this wild weekend we are right back in the mix of things :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: mbailey on October 19, 2017, 02:44:24 PM
Buckeyes have a Bye week and then we play penn state should be a good match up and with this wild weekend we are right back in the mix of things :banana: :banana:
WE ARE.......Penn State!!! :aok
Couldn't resist PSU is one of my alma maters :D :cheers:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MiloMorai on October 19, 2017, 06:13:20 PM
My sincere condolences, mbailey. :devil
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on October 19, 2017, 08:45:38 PM
Fire butch jones.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: mbailey on October 20, 2017, 09:53:03 AM
I will be down near State College for Thanksgiving, it is a shame the game is in Maryland that weekend.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 21, 2017, 02:19:30 PM
GO BLUE!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on October 21, 2017, 02:21:30 PM
as much as o'korn makes me shiver, GO Blue!
Tonight would be a grate nite for him to get on point. :pray
:salute
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on October 21, 2017, 05:16:29 PM
I am going for PSU. after the whole sexual abuse mess, they have resurrected to be a strong program. If they beat Michigan and OSU......Alabama will be in their crosshairs.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on October 21, 2017, 07:03:31 PM
Beaver Stadium sure does look good in white...
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: JOACH1M on October 21, 2017, 08:11:42 PM
I am going for PSU. after the whole sexual abuse mess, they have resurrected to be a strong program. If they beat Michigan and OSU......Alabama will be in their crosshairs.
it would be a huge feat of they pull it off
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on October 21, 2017, 09:51:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/F34CTPR.jpg)
A happy night in Happy Valley.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on October 21, 2017, 10:13:35 PM
Congtatulations to penn state on a strong win.
I didnt expect michigans defense to give up so many points.
On the plus side, i think okorn did pretty well. I was happy for him about that. If several of his passes hadnt been dropped, he would have had an even better night.
So, alas for my beloved wolverines, but glad that okorn looked decent.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on October 21, 2017, 10:16:42 PM
Pennstate: hey buckeyes! Buckeyes: yea? Pennstate: You are next! Buckeyes: Its on! Pennstate: Good. Your place at 3:30! Buckeyes: Ready and waiting for you. Pennstate: Hey Okie! Oklahoma: Yea? Pennstate: Hold my beer and watch how it is done.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Oldman731 on October 21, 2017, 10:29:47 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Biggamer on October 22, 2017, 04:03:56 AM
Last year Penn State came off a bye week playing at home vs #2 ranked Ohio State. This year Ohio State is coming off a bye week playing at home vs #2 ranked Penn State. :uhoh
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Oldman731 on October 22, 2017, 08:47:51 AM
Last year Penn State came off a bye week playing at home vs #2 ranked Ohio State. This year Ohio State is coming off a bye week playing at home vs #2 ranked Penn State. :uhoh
I got a degree from each school. But there’s no question which one I want to win next week.
- oldman
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on October 22, 2017, 09:28:29 AM
Last year Penn State came off a bye week playing at home vs #2 ranked Ohio State. This year Ohio State is coming off a bye week playing at home vs #2 ranked Penn State. :uhoh
Should also throw in there an unranked Penn State beat a #2 Ohio State. :)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Mister Fork on October 23, 2017, 09:11:20 AM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on October 30, 2017, 03:03:58 PM
Go Bucks. Beat the number 1 scoring defense in the NCAA till this point. PSU couldn't run the ball from scrimmage. One 36 yd TD that was nice but Barkely managed only 8 more yards in 20 carries.
Total 47 yards rushing for leading Heisman Candidate. Buckeyes D Line best in the country. So much so that a Buckeye D Lineman tackled the QB and the RB at the same time for a loss.
13 Tackles for loss against PSU. PSU very good football team. Long way to go. This puts them almost out of the picture for the championship game. They are good enough to make the play-offs for sure. PSU offense only mustered 279 yards. Ohio State just played more physical. And Ohio state did more then enough to give away the game with a great kickoff return and two fumbles lost not to mention penalties and stupidity on Ohio States part. Think this was the sixth game in a row Ohio State had more then 500 yards of total offense.
The season however is not over. Long way to go. Your guess is as good as mine and anyone elses' who will make the playoffs. Heck even TCU lost to Iowa State.
Another great season shaping up. Dare I say Georgia number 1 this Tuesday? Their schedule is more impressive then Alabama's'.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on November 04, 2017, 05:48:46 PM
:uhoh
Big Win hangover in Iowa tonight?
:bolt:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 04, 2017, 07:07:54 PM
Ouch. PSU lost too so with that you have to look at the big ten and ask....are the teams that good to beat each other or just overrated?
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 05, 2017, 12:19:17 AM
Buckeyes don't belong in the playoffs even though they may win the Big Ten. No excuses. They flat out got beat and beat badly. And this being said by a Buckeye fan.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 05, 2017, 12:44:43 AM
Buckeyes don't belong in the playoffs even though they may win the Big Ten. No excuses. They flat out got beat and beat badly. And this being said by a Buckeye fan.
And i agree with that. First Oklahoma now Iowa.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 05, 2017, 01:36:16 AM
It was a crazy weekend of football. There is enough football left for yet more craziness, though.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Spikes on November 05, 2017, 07:09:07 AM
Ouch. PSU lost too so with that you have to look at the big ten and ask....are the teams that good to beat each other or just overrated?
Yep...PSU is now on a landslide.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 05, 2017, 07:34:02 AM
A grate weekend for the good guys. Once again MSU shows it has the best turf in the nation! Not sure why penn State threw the ball all game long? There qb is so short he has to lob the ball over the line, not good for short passes. Did not help i lost my voice chanting seven nation army all game. the vudo was strong. :noid Another Pic!
Big Blues doors are opening! Ohh baby the next few weeks will be fun!
Just to cool. may the hardest working team win! :aok
:salute
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on November 05, 2017, 01:33:57 PM
I'm not a Bama fan but ya gotta admit, they will probably remain #1 until the Auburn game :D
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: nooby52 on November 06, 2017, 10:49:27 AM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 07, 2017, 06:23:48 PM
Ok. I will adjust the "Hate Board" en lieu of recent votes.
1. Ohio State University holds out on top. 2. Alabama A strong move up the list, a nod to the polite ol' folk, and have a good day. 3. Notre Dame Not sure why they are not on top? 4. Miami Really? Miami is still on the list. Good Grief 5. USC The red devils with their gold and smoken hot cheerleaders. Hate hate hate!
:cheers:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on November 08, 2017, 02:48:11 PM
Not really BUT college football being what it is.... ya never know :aok
So true. :salute
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Randy1 on November 09, 2017, 11:02:45 AM
alabama may have more national championships than Auburn but we have the memories that will last forever. :rofl
As a wonderful example, the next day after the punt-bama-punt game bear bryant was doing his Sunday tv show reviewing the game. He was still steaming. The color guy tried to do a segway for coca cola and golden flake potato chips of which bryant was a big stock holder i think.
The color guy said something like, "Coach Bryant, lets have a coca cola and golden flake potato chips while we take a commercial break."
The color guy started to reach for the coke and potato chips displayed there on the desk. Bryant swept the desk clear of the chips and cokes with his chunky hand. Then he said as i remember it, "I don't want any of those damn potato chips or coca cola.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 09, 2017, 02:19:17 PM
My prediction for college football.
The Michigan Wolverines will beat both Wisconsin and Ohio State by such an enormous margin that, even with their losses, they will be invited into the college football playoffs, and win it all!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 10, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
As a Michigan fan I agree! :cheers:
Quality wins with a third string qb, mixed with two lame duck losses under a disoriented backup qb. I could see the logic...but no big ten championship because PSU and MSU need TWO more losses to get trumped by UofM. Now that means Maryland or Rutgers has to win over MSU and PSU. That is something mother nature would have a hard time bringing to fruition.
But you know It all starts tomorrow! And thats what we really like, watching football!
Go Blue!
:salute
P.S. If Michigan takes down Wisconsin and osu. It would be a successful season! Next year they will be ranked high, with a more mature team they should be better!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 11, 2017, 10:01:07 PM
tOSU :ahand to MSU Miami :ahand to ND Nama escapees miss st Auburn :ahand to GU
:bolt: this will be a interesting year for CFB
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MiloMorai on November 12, 2017, 12:26:44 AM
Were Red Tide fans perspiring a little bit?
Condolences to Notre Dame fans for the hammering.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on November 12, 2017, 11:46:53 AM
We finally fired Butch Jones. Thank god
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Ramesis on November 12, 2017, 01:11:31 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 12, 2017, 02:46:19 PM
If iowa can obliterate ohio state, michigan can beat wisconsin, i say! :uhoh
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 12, 2017, 05:52:02 PM
Wisconsin is something else. I was in Steven's point looking to watch michigan play. I went downtown, every bar was full, everyone wearing red. :uhoh 15 tvs in every bar watching one game, Wisconsin. I still ask, nacih :rofl I had to dive to the edge of town to the "rough" bar, you know the one. They gave me and my lady a tv...had to fend of that Santa clause looking guy though, :rofl :uhoh
The whole state is red! I would love to be there next week at camp randal!
Go Blue!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: nooby52 on November 13, 2017, 12:21:03 PM
I think Miss State should have been moved up further in the polls than they were; they have a pretty good team. But I'm glad that Bama had to struggle the way they did: I think they learned something about themselves, and won't take anything for granted from here out. Especially after the way Auburn put the hurt on the 'dawgs. Gonna be an interesting rest-of -the season. RTR! :cheers:
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on November 25, 2017, 02:56:05 PM
Purdue is going bowling and by winning its rivalry game, prevented its rival from doing so.
Its a good day.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on November 25, 2017, 03:00:05 PM
Yea, I expect that it will be Michigan year to beat Ohio state. Buckeyes did not play like they do. I expected a really close game.....but last night was terrible. When you get beat that bad, at home, against a team with a new coach........you know you are not as good.
Nope.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MiloMorai on November 25, 2017, 05:47:17 PM
Looks like Alabama will be not so nice a place to visit for the next little while.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 25, 2017, 07:09:49 PM
Looks like Alabama will be not so nice a place to visit for the next little while.
You mean other than all the non-football stuff. Haha. Kinda.
Oh crap, I just found out about this: http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21558685
Hahaha.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on November 27, 2017, 09:38:45 PM
Alas for my beloved Wolverines. :cry
Still, it was a good game, fun to watch, and had many exciting plays. :aok
As for Alabama, it's unfortunate for them. They will have lost one game to a very-good team. Other one-loss teams did not necessarily lose to very-good teams and yet might end up ranked ahead of Alabama. It's the disadvantage of losing later rather than earlier.
I think there are six top teams for those four spots.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 27, 2017, 11:55:44 PM
This is going to be a mess imho. There are so many distinct possibilities at this time it boggles the mind. To many what ifs' involved. And who knows how the committee is going to vote.
Alabama Georgia game', whoever wins is in (one would think) Oklahoma beats TCU Oklahoma should be in. Wisconsin wins they are in (I think) LOL. Auburn Clemson game winner should be in (I think)
This all can be screwed up if Georgia wins, Wisconsin loses to OSU...........TCU beats oklahoma.........and who knows between Auburn Clemson....... We're gonna have to wait and see what happens and how the committee votes. This could get very interesting.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on November 28, 2017, 02:41:41 PM
We need a 8 team playoff.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 28, 2017, 02:49:41 PM
This is going to be a mess imho. There are so many distinct possibilities at this time it boggles the mind. To many what ifs' involved. And who knows how the committee is going to vote.
Alabama Georgia game', whoever wins is in (one would think) Oklahoma beats TCU Oklahoma should be in. Wisconsin wins they are in (I think) LOL. Auburn Clemson game winner should be in (I think)
This all can be screwed up if Georgia wins, Wisconsin loses to OSU...........TCU beats oklahoma.........and who knows between Auburn Clemson....... We're gonna have to wait and see what happens and how the committee votes. This could get very interesting.
Man I screwed up I'm so confused LOL It's Auburn/ Georgia Hajo. Clemson and Miami??? This is confusing. Who the hell ends up playing Clemson in the ACC???
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on November 28, 2017, 04:24:50 PM
Look like wisconsin will be beatin OSU to get in the playoff
I call tOSU win by touchdown.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on November 29, 2017, 10:17:48 PM
Although a Buckeye fan I posted earlier that Ohio State does not belong in the playoffs this year. Obvious reason the loss to Iowa. They beat a #2, they beat a #16. Lost to Oklahoma.
They are favored to beat Wisconsin. Even if they do, they don't belong in the playoffs.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on November 29, 2017, 11:03:10 PM
People who argued against the playoff often did so on the grounds that this would be the natural progression. To hell with that I say, they should go whole hog and do a 32 team playoff, just like the Championship divisions.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on November 30, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
People who argued against the playoff often did so on the grounds that this would be the natural progression. To hell with that I say, they should go whole hog and do a 32 team playoff, just like the Championship divisions.
Never will happen and the dumbest idea to do so.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 01, 2017, 04:46:13 PM
32 team playoff sounds great. Get rid of the cupcake games. only conference games and a playoff. sorry for your loss guys who profit off kids lives. :aok maybe the "schools" will be happy most kids will have less time getting hurt and more time learning. :rofl oh man it would be tough to chip away at the billion dollar system. :rofl On second thought I want these kids to get paid, PAID. The ruse every millionaire college President, AD, and board around the country puts on is travesty. Lets see how many kids boycott the bowls this year, and good for them. :salute
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: puller on December 02, 2017, 10:52:54 AM
BOOMER!!!!!
That is all....
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MickDono on December 02, 2017, 01:09:51 PM
Needed TCU and Ohio State to win!
I guess TCU is a no go already
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 02, 2017, 06:14:49 PM
OMG Auburn. Guess they did not want to win that bad.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MiloMorai on December 02, 2017, 08:25:57 PM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 03, 2017, 12:45:22 AM
Bama won't make it. Not one impressive win. Mercer? They had to come back to beat Mississippi State a four loss team. Strength of schedule. Yes Auburn beat them, but now Auburn is a 3 loss team.
If you put Bama in you'll leave out two conferences, The BiG Ten and the Pac12. That certainly isn't going to happen. Clemson, Oklahoma and Georgia for sure. I have no idea who is going to make the fourth spot. As I said before IMHO Ohio States loss to Iowa should kill their chances. This is a conundrum.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 03, 2017, 12:47:11 AM
You forget about Bama? cmon guy, good ol boy system. Remember last year?????? Its not rocket science, its favoritism. Bamba is In just like ohio was last year. end of story.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 03, 2017, 09:50:05 AM
Bama should not get in. Lost at end of season, did not play in confrance championship, and not impressive schedule.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MickDono on December 03, 2017, 11:53:44 AM
Haha RMFT!!!! Roll tide roll!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 03, 2017, 12:31:57 PM
Meh, they will get their butts kicked.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Becinhu on December 03, 2017, 01:13:47 PM
If OSU was a 1 loss team they would be in. That loss to Iowa killed them. A two loss team has no business in the playoff. Now as for Alabama they generally play a cake walk schedule except for their sec division games, the other division is very weak and it needs balanced out IMO.
I think we will see a Clemson vs Oklahoma national title game. But Georgia is the true wildcard, depends on which team shows up.
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Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 03, 2017, 02:11:42 PM
If OSU was a 1 loss team they would be in. That loss to Iowa killed them. A two loss team has no business in the playoff. Now as for Alabama they generally play a cake walk schedule except for their sec division games, the other division is very weak and it needs balanced out IMO.
I think we will see a Clemson vs Oklahoma national title game. But Georgia is the true wildcard, depends on which team shows up.
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A team that lost the last game of the regular season and NOT play in the conference championship should not go in the CFC too. Perhaps UCF should have gone.
Neither way, Clemson is the only true team to win it.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 03, 2017, 03:11:43 PM
Two quarterbacks from Michigan are transferring out of the U of M according to today's sports. Why?
For next year, Michigan has a lot of quarterbacks. Only one of them will be picked to be the main one.
I suspect that Speight and Malzone knew that they would be not be the main quarterback next year. If they want to play, they need to transfer.
Next year, Michigan has Brandon Peters (put in this year after Speight and O'Korn and did OK enough to be considered for starter, but not a lock), Dylan McCaffrey (#1 ranked pro-passer in his recruiting class) and new recruits Joe Milton (4-star recruit) and Kevin Doyle. There is also the possibility that Shea Patterson (5-star recruit who went to Ole Miss) will transfer to Michigan.
Going into this year, Michigan was an unknown with almost no starters returning. People were thinking they'd end up 9-3 or 8-4, losing at least to Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State. It turned out that the defense was great, but the offense was not and was plagued with injuries (starting QB, backup QB, best WR, best RB, another WR, another RB, TE, OT, OG). Even so, they weren't horrible on offense. They played pretty decent games against Ohio State, Michigan State, and Wisconsin (although not well against Penn State). They ended up 8-4.
I think they'll be better next year. Will they beat Ohio State next year? Of course! (Well, I like to have a positive attitude.) :aok
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 03, 2017, 03:19:30 PM
All four teams in it are great teams.
I would have preferred Ohio State in there because I'm a Big 10 fan. And if Ohio State were in instead of Alabama, it would not have been a horrible choice, because Ohio State is great, too.
But it's hard to have 2-loss team in there, even a great one, and even though that loss to Iowa was a fluke.
Ohio State is in a game vs. another team sort of like them: a great team but with 2 losses instead of 1 -- USC.
Ohio State will need to play well to beat them. Go, Ohio State!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 03, 2017, 04:30:39 PM
Yay! Michigan is in the Outback Bowl! Woot!
They will play the South Carolina Gamecoc ks -- quite a good team.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 03, 2017, 05:24:01 PM
Will Ohio State beat USC? Go Buckeyes! Will Wisconsin beat Miami? Go Badgers! Will Penn State beat Washington? Go Huskies! Will Michigan State beat Washington State? I'll root for Spartans, but I really like Luke Falk, so I will be happy however it goes.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 03, 2017, 05:26:15 PM
Will Ohio State beat USC? Go Buckeyes! Will Wisconsin beat Miami? Go Badgers! Will Penn State beat Washington? Go Huskies! Will Michigan State beat Washington State? I'll root for Spartans, but I really like Luke Falk, so I will be happy however it goes.
I call Miami over Honey badgers by........a touchdown or two.
Clemson will "Roll" over overrated Bambi's.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 03, 2017, 05:31:36 PM
Miami is highly variable. Sometimes they are really good, sometimes not. I think Wisconsin has a good change to win it, but it is a home game for Miami.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 03, 2017, 06:10:08 PM
I am glad OSU didn't get picked in the final 4. They didn't deserve it and instead of OSU getting crushed by Clemson, Alabama will.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 03, 2017, 06:19:20 PM
A team that lost the last game of the regular season and NOT play in the conference championship should not go in the CFC too. Perhaps UCF should have gone.
Neither way, Clemson is the only true team to win it.
If Wisconsin would have won the big ten we wouldn’t have a controversy, but they didn’t. I agree that Alabama didn’t deserve the spot based on strength of schedule, however you can’t put a two lose OSU team in above them either.
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Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 03, 2017, 07:16:30 PM
You forget about Bama? cmon guy, good ol boy system. Remember last year?????? Its not rocket science, its favoritism. Bamba is In just like ohio was last year. end of story.
Maybe USC or UCF should get in since they won thier conference championship.....and UFC undefeated.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 03, 2017, 08:09:12 PM
Maybe USC or UCF should get in since they won thier conference championship.....and UFC undefeated.
Maybe they will get you excited and get your ratings but a cold chance in hell to get past their opinion. To quote them this year between ohio and bama (your two not in consideration) "we watched bama all year and they are better" . This system reeks of B.S. and the "others" need not apply. Too much money in power at the club.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 03, 2017, 09:25:31 PM
Maybe they will get you excited and get your ratings but a cold chance in hell to get past their opinion. To quote them this year between ohio and bama (your two not in consideration) "we watched bama all year and they are better" . This system reeks of B.S. and the "others" need not apply. Too much money in power at the club.
That’s why ppl call it eSECpn.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: puller on December 04, 2017, 07:52:23 AM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: ACE on December 04, 2017, 10:39:43 AM
Watch out for that boy called Baker.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 04, 2017, 02:12:20 PM
For you who don't know ESPN is the SEC Network literally. The Big Ten Network is owned and operated by the Big. SEC Network is ESPN.
Notre Dame sold the television rights to NBC. I don't know if NBC however still owns the television rights. When and if NBC did/does that is all you would see advertised on NBC concerning
college football outside of Bowl Games. It is all about the money folks. Always was and will be. Sorta like Social Media. Say what ya want to and it doesn't necessarily mean it has to be
true. Only the gullible need apply.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 04, 2017, 06:36:06 PM
Ultimately, it's all about enjoyment. If people don't enjoy the setup, they won't pay for it or watch it. If they enjoy it a lot, the converse is true.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: NatCigg on December 05, 2017, 06:22:46 AM
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: MiloMorai on December 05, 2017, 03:36:43 PM
At least it is a very clean bowl Arlo. ;)
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on December 05, 2017, 05:36:32 PM
I believe that Fox now owns 51% of the Big Ten Network.
Purdue gets Arizona, which at least sounds like it could be the Rose Bowl. Better than some directional state or something something tech. But I don't know how many people in Indiana are gunna go fly to San Fran to see a 6-6 team play in a bowl game. Rather have a bowl in some middle ground, like Texas somewhere.
And oh yeah, at least its not Candlestick Park. That place always looked like the worst natural grass football venue in the NFL.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on December 27, 2017, 11:42:52 PM
This just in: Purdue won! A winning record, who would have thought?
And oh yeah, this was pretty good: https://twitter.com/YahooDrSaturday/status/946218742631075841/photo/1
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 28, 2017, 08:36:28 PM
Hajo, I'm hoping Barrett makes it into the NFL. I'm pulling for him!
Brooke he was a great College Quarterback. He is one of many outstanding College Quarterbacks that aren't good enough to play in the NFL. He's tentative when under the gun. He did very well because of the team mates that surrounded him. A lot of his former team mates are playing in the NFL. That helps any quarterback to be outstanding in College. I know he broke Drew Brees Big Ten record. Brees is a much better quarterback imho. Plus his running skills if applied in the NFL will eventually get him on injured reserve. He is an average passer at best.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on December 30, 2017, 10:19:47 PM
Brooke he was a great College Quarterback. He is one of many outstanding College Quarterbacks that aren't good enough to play in the NFL. He's tentative when under the gun. He did very well because of the team mates that surrounded him. A lot of his former team mates are playing in the NFL. That helps any quarterback to be outstanding in College. I know he broke Drew Brees Big Ten record. Brees is a much better quarterback imho. Plus his running skills if applied in the NFL will eventually get him on injured reserve. He is an average passer at best.
I agree. He has the speed but arm not there. He should opted out of NFL, IMOP.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 30, 2017, 10:34:33 PM
Go, Wisconsin! Well done!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 31, 2017, 09:00:11 AM
So far the BIG is undefeated in Bowl Games. This DOES directly reflect on the strength of their schedules. We don't play Mercer or Vandy. Some conferences schedule cupcake games at the beginning or middle of the season. Big rule is only schedule Div 1 opponents. It does hurt the BIG by not getting a free game to get your team in order. There are no exhibition games so to speak. You're deemed ready for Div1 opponents at the first game of the season.
This is not a poke at other conferences. It's just a fact. I wish all conferences had the same practice and attitude. Makes for better games to watch.
Also imho Darnold the USC QB is not ready for the NFL. He reminds me a lot of Deshon Kizer. He should stay in school.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on December 31, 2017, 07:58:16 PM
OK . . .
It's almost time for the most-important bowl game of them all.
Yes, that's right. Michigan vs. South Carolina in the Outback Bowl at noon Eastern.
I just wanted to mention it because of all the distractions of New Year's day and various other lesser bowls.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Hajo on December 31, 2017, 09:25:12 PM
Go Blue!
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on January 01, 2018, 03:23:53 PM
See, Michigan was the exception for being slotted too low. Sparty woulda won.
Now lets root for Danny Elting, former Boilermaker, to complete this comeback over ND.
Edit: Darn :(
Edit2: Auburn lost to UCF :lol
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on January 01, 2018, 06:08:31 PM
UCF....WOW! Another BS/TCU.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: APDrone on January 01, 2018, 06:51:53 PM
Big Ten has better than usual teams slotted in each bowl due to no team in the championship.
There's a pretty obvious fix for that... or was, anyway.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 01, 2018, 09:00:23 PM
Oh, the horror!
My beloved Wolverines have been slain, and lay bloody upon the battlefield. :cry
Congratulations to South Carolina for remaining scrappy and charging back for the win.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: oakranger on January 01, 2018, 10:20:05 PM
looks like Bama will win and another SEC national championship match.
I can see the outcry on this. One will be that any team has to win their conference championship to play for the national playoffs.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: BoilerDown on January 01, 2018, 10:57:15 PM
I think UCF makes a strong argument for an 8-team playoff that guarantees at least 1 non power conference team in participation. Then there should be 1 representative from each power conference, and the rest at-large.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: branch37 on January 02, 2018, 06:51:48 PM
Nicely done CHOKElahoma. :bhead :bhead :bhead
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: Brooke on January 02, 2018, 11:05:16 PM
I think UCF makes a strong argument for an 8-team playoff that guarantees at least 1 non power conference team in participation. Then there should be 1 representative from each power conference, and the rest at-large.
Auburn played three of the four teams in the final four during the regular season beating both alabama and georgia. UCF had a better team than both teams playing for the national championship.
Title: Re: A good morning to reflect on college football
Post by: puller on January 03, 2018, 03:25:44 PM
Lincoln Riley left off right where Stoops did....sucking it up in a big game...At least this year I can't say it was "Big Game Bob betting against his team"