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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SQUAT! on January 25, 2013, 04:52:06 PM
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We have all these threads about the best fighter and acm and what not. so i have decided to ask the question. Who are the most timid players in AH? off the top of my head my list goes as follows but not in any kind of order and only from what i have seen with my own eyes. it's a short list but it's only the start :devil
Pand
Rocky
Pjk
Marlin1
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We have all these threads about the best fighter and acm and what not. so i have decided to ask the question. Who are the most timid players in AH? off the top of my head my list goes as follows but not in any kind of order and only from what i have seen with my own eyes. it's a short list but it's only the start :devil
Pand
Rocky
Pjk
Marlin1
How do you know? They become Forest Gump and if you can't catch um and kill um, you can't find out who it was!
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:x VOTE ME! VOTE ME! :x
- I fly my buffs at 28k
- I use a lot of perk rides
- I'm the only player known running from a D3A in a Tempest
- I never accept challenges to the DA
- I call 'utilizing' friendly ack "just another tool in my box"
:x VOTE ME! VOTE ME! :x
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I would say who I think is among the so called "Top Dogs", but cuz of forum rules I won't :mad:
but in
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:x VOTE ME! VOTE ME! :x
- I fly my buffs at 28k
- I use a lot ot perk rides
- I'm the only player known running from a D3A in a Tempest
- I never accept challenges to the DA
- I call 'utilizing' friendly ack "just another tool in my box"
:x VOTE ME! VOTE ME! :x
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/jager515/snailman_zpse2b05261.jpg)
:D
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:lol
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reipar
:noid
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When you can't find an actual girl for these purposes buy and expensive sex doll......
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RedBull. I have never seen anyone run from so many green planes before. :D
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:D
:rofl
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We have all these threads about the best fighter and acm and what not. so i have decided to ask the question. Who are the most timid players in AH? off the top of my head my list goes as follows but not in any kind of order and only from what i have seen with my own eyes. it's a short list but it's only the start :devil
Pand
Rocky
Pjk
Marlin1
Iv'e fought against and along side Pand, he isn't "timid" as you say. He's just a good stick.
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that would be a loooooooooooooooooooooong list :rofl
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:D
You think Snails on cocaine are bad........childs play compared to the wood spider on crack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRfoSlH4QcI
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ROCKY
AKAK
Ahiru
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:D
:rofl
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You think Snails on cocaine are bad........childs play compared to the wood spider on crack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRfoSlH4QcI
:rofl :rofl That one is great.
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Once upon a time I upped a P40N to combat a P51D that was launching rockets at a field for de-acking purposes. I took my time and extended out and grabbed E and alt while the P51D kept buzzing the small field de-acking, etc. I'd say withing 3 minutes of me upping I was turning back to engage. The P51D saw me engage and as long as he had the complete advantage he stayed in the fight, but as soon as my little P40N out-scissored him and was able to reverse him he went nose down and ran over a sector away to RTB. As he was running I said to myself aloud that I bet this joker is [insert name here]... I was able to keep up with him enough to watch him land and tower out and my hunch was right. Ya see, in addition to nearly de-acking the field he was able to get a couple of vulches (not me). It was that important to him to land those 2 kills than it was for him to stand and fight in a superior plane.
But alas... it was very typical of him and his squad mates to vulch then run for the name in lights. They do it quite a bit.
I wont name their names. It should be rather obvious because their own countrymen call them out for doing so. The running away stuff gets old.
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that would be a loooooooooooooooooooooong list :rofl
QFT
You could list whole squads here....
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Iv'e fought against and along side Pand, he isn't "timid" as you say. He's just a good stick.
pand NEVER fights. he will run from anyone and anything if he doesn't have 2 or more friends and alt to help him. The good sticks can and will fight in a 1v1 situation when on equal terms. Timid is not avoiduing the turn fight with a spit while in a 190. it's the absolute refusal to fight at all without an extremely high advantage of some sort other then personal ability. no one from my list does any of that unless you count knowing were the the closest field with ack up is or were the most green guys to run to are as a skill
that would be a loooooooooooooooooooooong list :rofl
name the first 3 or so that come to mind :devil
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How do you know? They become Forest Gump and if you can't catch um and kill um, you can't find out who it was!
I record most my sorties. not hard to watch the film for a laugh
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We have all these threads about the best fighter and acm and what not. so i have decided to ask the question. Who are the most timid players in AH? off the top of my head my list goes as follows but not in any kind of order and only from what i have seen with my own eyes. it's a short list but it's only the start :devil
Pand
Rocky
Pjk
Marlin1
Ahhhh Pand is timid because he rocks your bellybutton and the fourth time you up he's RTB ammo =(
Man, you're a GREAT stick, but you are such a toolbag at the same time.
I still <3 you, but I know that you can be more.
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pand NEVER fights. he will run from anyone and anything if he doesn't have 2 or more friends and alt to help him. The good sticks can and will fight in a 1v1 situation when on equal terms. Timid is not avoiduing the turn fight with a spit while in a 190. it's the absolute refusal to fight at all without an extremely high advantage of some sort other then personal ability. no one from my list does any of that unless you count knowing were the the closest field with ack up is or were the most green guys to run to are as a skill
name the first 3 or so that come to mind :devil
I think I saw Pand in the DA the other day, and now they say he's reversing people and engaging more aggressively! :aok
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pand NEVER fights. he will run from anyone and anything if he doesn't have 2 or more friends and alt to help him. The good sticks can and will fight in a 1v1 situation when on equal terms. Timid is not avoiduing the turn fight with a spit while in a 190. it's the absolute refusal to fight at all without an extremely high advantage of some sort other then personal ability. no one from my list does any of that unless you count knowing were the the closest field with ack up is or were the most green guys to run to are as a skill
Dunno where you're getting that from. I was fighting him in a 4 on 2 in the AvA, advantage to my favor and he did very well...For a pony pilot against K4's. :lol I switched after that fight to even out the sides so it was 3 on 3 and when all of us met up in that little furball I didn't see a single person run, friendly or enemy, and it was quite fun.
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I don't know his name, but the Nit flying a Dora I came up against last night has to be on top of the list. He was over 5K above me and climbing. I slowly climbed up behind him in a K-4 without losing sight and chased him 1 1/2 sectors before getting co alt 5K behind him. He turned and made 1 pass before running 3 more sectors. I finally ran out of gas and bailed.
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I thought I would at least make this list but no, I guess I am not good at anything :furious :furious
midway
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Ahhhh Pand is timid because he rocks your bellybutton and the fourth time you up he's RTB ammo =(
Man, you're a GREAT stick, but you are such a toolbag at the same time.
I still <3 you, but I know that you can be more.
LMAO not 1 time has he ever killed me without 2 friends to help him. I say he is timid because i have NEVER seen him stand and fight. he runs to ack at the first sign that the enemy pilot isn't AFK or if he does not have friends.
I think I saw Pand in the DA the other day, and now they say he's reversing people and engaging more aggressively! :aok
WHAT!!!! for real rock? Well as i said i'm going by what i have seen with my own eyes. but if this is true i really hope to meet him 1v1. Any newb can fly around and pick or gang or out right just hide ( all of which is all i have ever seen pand do ). But it is my belief that a good fighter will mix it up 1v1. at least when he has advantage or on near equal terms.
I thought I would at least make this list but no, I guess I am not good at anything :furious :furious
midway
Not true. Your a greta hat dancer from i am told :salute
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The whole Nippon squad + kamurogi
Chalenge
Hoss/Tosh/Lt/what ever
hymi
and the list goes on
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The whole Nippon squad + kamurogi
Chalenge
Hoss/Tosh/Lt/what ever
hymi
and the list goes on
And Debrody- - - the MOST timid of all players. Pure smack. I have film!
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And Debrody- - - the MOST timid of all players. Pure smack. I have film!
:rofl
Prove it! :aok
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Depending on the blog and the lifestyle <3 has two different meanings.
1. <3 = I WUV You, butttt, still you are two dudes.
2. <3 = teabag. Are you really two dudes in love??
You guys need to update your Bromance metaphors for family ratings.
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:rofl
Prove it! :aok
You like to hide behind berms. I sit in the open and wait on you to stick your head out. You are predictable and timid. And after losing you never fail to miss out on a chance to talk smack.
(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq197/Chalenge08/Debrody_zpse918552e.jpg)
And since you might try to deny it. Someone has just asked where you are. I tell them you are currently fuming out a smack in the tower.
(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq197/Chalenge08/DebrodyPoppedTurret_zps1f37d858.jpg)
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:rofl gv's?
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:rofl gv's?
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he's a hider, get him! :lol
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:rofl gv's?
It's all he ever does!
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It's all he ever does!
hmmm whats more timid, hide in a panzer or concrete sit in a tiger2? :neener:
but thats one thing
Another is, i dont know how to fly a plane. Heck, i dont even have a stick, only a mouse. 190s are for the cowards anyways.
:rofl
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Any ways. To see what a coward arse i am, i "chalenge" you to the DA. In your ride of choice. I cant fly, youre an ACM genius with the best K/D ever - should be no contest.
If you dare! :neener:
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Just wondering why folks think that disengaging is poor behavior? I mean really - thump your chest and cry if you must, but I will continue to disengage once I know I am fighting at a disadvantage. Must be my decade of military service that turned me into such a coward where I use my mind, SA, and think hey its time to retire the field and come back once I have ammo, speed, altitude, fuel, wingmen, what have you. Must have turned me into a real tool that I do not stick around once I loose my wingman so that I can go reset with them since we have built a squadron that flies together because we like working real teamwork (flying tactics) and don't like leaving a fella sitting in the tower.
Yup. Must be a coward.
Foolish to think that way isn't it? Do not fear, I do not. I know better. Just wanted some of you to feel better about yourselves - since you had to post on a board complaining about it.
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Paladin, i think, you missed it.
I DO disengage sometimes. My plane cant handle the turnfight with spits, zeeks and brewsters. Or is it only me being that lame? Who knows. Also, i have friends to wing with, and i do it frequently. Nothing is a more impressive sight than 3-4 pilots beating 6-8-10, by winging.
Anyway. When its a 20k spit16/ki84/lala jumping on your 109G, BnZing you as long as he can, then running all the way til he finds friends or you have to brake due to his field ack...
Well, thats definiately a coward-ish behaviour in my book. I hope that you see the difference.
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I think if I just mentioned, 99% of P51 pilots, I'd cover just about everyone worthy of a mention.
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You like to hide behind berms. I sit in the open and wait on you to stick your head out. You are predictable and timid. And after losing you never fail to miss out on a chance to talk smack.
(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq197/Chalenge08/Debrody_zpse918552e.jpg)
And since you might try to deny it. Someone has just asked where you are. I tell them you are currently fuming out a smack in the tower.
(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq197/Chalenge08/DebrodyPoppedTurret_zps1f37d858.jpg)
Besides sitting on your butt on concrete...how is GVing in any way "timid"? :rofl Sad.
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I'm not timid. :banana:
I'm just stupid. :headscratch:
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I once spent 30 minutes running from 2 planes. Couldn't shake them. Then I figured out they were my drones. :frown:
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We have all these threads about the best fighter and acm and what not. so i have decided to ask the question. Who are the most timid players in AH? off the top of my head my list goes as follows but not in any kind of order and only from what i have seen with my own eyes. it's a short list but it's only the start :devil
Pand
Rocky
Pjk
Marlin1
Why don't you start a tread about most immature whiners ?; save a place for yourself on the list;
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Why don't you start a tread about most immature whiners ?; save a place for yourself on the list;
:aok
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You like to hide behind berms. I sit in the open and wait on you to stick your head out. You are predictable and timid. And after losing you never fail to miss out on a chance to talk smack.
(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq197/Chalenge08/Debrody_zpse918552e.jpg)
And since you might try to deny it. Someone has just asked where you are. I tell them you are currently fuming out a smack in the tower.
(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq197/Chalenge08/DebrodyPoppedTurret_zps1f37d858.jpg)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/mj3h4k.jpg)
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I once spent 30 minutes running from 2 planes. Couldn't shake them. Then I figured out they were my drones. :frown:
holy crap..... :rofl :rofl :rofl
but ya chalenge is by far the most timid there is :aok
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ghi comes out swinging :)
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ghi comes out swinging :)
thats cuz he knows he is on this list :aok
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:rofl gv's?
:rofl
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I think if I just mentioned, 99% of P51 pilots, I'd cover just about everyone worthy of a mention.
I like to add that 99% of the Doras I run across do this as well. Normally it's a headon reversal, spray and run until out of icon range.
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Once upon a time I upped a P40N to combat a P51D that was launching rockets at a field for de-acking purposes. I took my time and extended out and grabbed E and alt while the P51D kept buzzing the small field de-acking, etc. I'd say withing 3 minutes of me upping I was turning back to engage. The P51D saw me engage and as long as he had the complete advantage he stayed in the fight, but as soon as my little P40N out-scissored him and was able to reverse him he went nose down and ran over a sector away to RTB. As he was running I said to myself aloud that I bet this joker is [insert name here]... I was able to keep up with him enough to watch him land and tower out and my hunch was right. Ya see, in addition to nearly de-acking the field he was able to get a couple of vulches (not me). It was that important to him to land those 2 kills than it was for him to stand and fight in a superior plane.
But alas... it was very typical of him and his squad mates to vulch then run for the name in lights. They do it quite a bit.
I wont name their names. It should be rather obvious because their own countrymen call them out for doing so. The running away stuff gets old.
You upped a plane that turns better and he wouldn't turn with you? Why didn't you up a P-51D? Too timid to fly without a turn advantage? :lol Oh I'm sorry, I see you said he had a superior plane. :aok
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Any ways. To see what a coward arse i am, i "chalenge" you to the DA. In your ride of choice. I cant fly, youre an ACM genius with the best K/D ever - should be no contest.
If you dare! :neener:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :x :banana: :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :x :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:...DA............. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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thats cuz he knows he is on this list :aok
ghi is not timid, he's a one trick pony.
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ghi is not timid, he's a one trick pony.
F3, F3 F3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have seen squat be timid before!
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ehm...
well, its him suddenly fading away when it is time to prove something...
Now who is the timid one?
hehe
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I think "timid" is a pansy term used by pantywaist wusses.
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I think "timid" is a pansy term used by pantywaist wusses.
I shudder at the thought of what cerebral effort must have been generated to rationalize this thought. I bet it sounded better in your head before you actually typed it.
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What about a group of squaddies that CAP an enemy base, making it impossible for an enemy fighter to get any alt or speed before getting tag-team BnZed to death - and then calling that player an ack-hugger for refusing to get ganged?
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I shudder at the thought of what cerebral effort must have been generated to rationalize this thought. I bet it sounded better in your head before you actually typed it.
When I picture you saying "timid" I see David Niven.
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I like to add that 99% of the Doras I run across do this as well. Normally it's a headon reversal, spray and run until out of icon range.
Flying smart is not being timid. Doras can't turn. So why would one stop and turn with a spit?
I have seen squat be timid before!
Did i have amo? was i in a jet? How many red guys were with you? if i have amo i don't run from a 1v1
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Flying smart is not being timid. Doras can't turn. So why would one stop and turn with a spit?
There is a boarder between being "smart" and "timid", even in 190.
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You can fly a 190 or 51 and still be aggressive without being timid or stupid. There are a few who can put up excellent fight in those birds without the requisite bait to have success.
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You can fly a 190 or 51 and still be aggressive without being timid or stupid. There are a few who can put up excellent fight in those birds without the requisite bait to have success.
well said :aok
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I think if I just mentioned, 99% of P51 pilots, I'd cover just about everyone worthy of a mention.
Heehee :D 1% maybeh O_o
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Flying smart is not being timid. Doras can't turn. So why would one stop and turn with a spit?
Did i have amo? was i in a jet? How many red guys were with you? if i have amo i don't run from a 1v1
I was alone if memory serves correct. So where you. You were making several passes over and over me reversing you every time.
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When I picture you saying "timid" I see David Niven.
David and I are a lot a like. Shag a ton of arse, famous and have a lot of money. Your problem is that you don't recognize talent. Now, I would have been offended if you'd said Jack Black. But you probably think he's cool.
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I was alone if memory serves correct. So where you. You were making several passes over and over me reversing you every time.
I was BnZing you? and it was 1v1? unless you were in a brew i'm calling BS. 1v1 i will turn fight anything but a brew. And anyone who has flown with me can back me up on that. So i call BS. and you reversed each time? How did i do it multiple times them? for the 3rd time i call BS ace. Not meaning to call you lier just maybe your memory is failing you a little or your confusing me for someone else
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I was BnZing you? and it was 1v1? unless you were in a brew i'm calling BS. 1v1 i will turn fight anything but a brew. And anyone who has flown with me can back me up on that. So i call BS. and you reversed each time? How did i do it multiple times them? for the 3rd time i call BS ace. Not meaning to call you lier just maybe your memory is failing you a little or your confusing me for someone else
This thread go in a direction you didn't intend it to?
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Flying smart is not being timid. Doras can't turn. So why would one stop and turn with a spit?
When do I fly a Spitfire Squat? I usually fly a 51.....and yeah you're right about Rocky....found that out last night. What a no balls rank player that guy is.
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I chased Beavis for FOUR sectors last night with Butthead desperately trying to catch up to us. As soon as I reverse on Butthead, here comes Beavis. lol
The film is 20minutes of autopilot.
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I chased Beavis for FOUR sectors last night with Butthead desperately trying to catch up to us. As soon as I reverse on Butthead, here comes Beavis. lol
The film is 20minutes of autopilot.
That's a good name for those two clowns. I had to deal with them after you left. They'd come in at 20K, dive down HO and run......over and over and over and over and over. The last time I seen them they were headed east........they may be in Early War by now if they brought drop tanks.
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Last night was funny. Dealing with those two tards, Rocky, and another couple, and then here comes a 15k Jug-M diving into the mix to "turn me" for them. When I say eff it and start doing it all back, they call me a whiner and a hypocrite. Maybe I am, but I'm not going to tie my hands behind my back. They're not looking for a good fight, why should I? lol I like SkyRock's description of them milking the community. When I give someone a good fight, they appreciate it! I hear "that was the best fight I've had in years!" pretty frequently. How often do these timid guys hear that? Never.
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I had a great fite with Krupnski and Messiah yesterday. They both attacked me but luckily Krupnski had no ammo and I was able to eliminate Messiah early.
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This thread go in a direction you didn't intend it to?
It's going exactly the way i intended it. People have the right to there opinions and i'm just questioning him about it. as i said. anyone who has flown with me knows how i am.
When do I fly a Spitfire Squat? I usually fly a 51.....and yeah you're right about Rocky....found that out last night. What a no balls rank player that guy is.
Was saying hypothetically. I had no clue of what you flew until you said so :salute
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I am just stating what i saw man. Don't get all upset when you make a thread about timid people if you have done it yourself.
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I know this: squat, Mercy, Ace, and uptown all fight :D
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Troll much Spek? When is the last time you played?
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Nah. Its been a little while been busy with college/tech school.
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Nah. Its been a little while been busy with college/tech school.
Rhetorical question...we all know your trolling.
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I am just stating what i saw man. Don't get all upset when you make a thread about timid people if you have done it yourself.
I'm not upset. I'm simply calling BS and asking about the fight.
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Just wondering why folks think that disengaging is poor behavior? I mean really - thump your chest and cry if you must, but I will continue to disengage once I know I am fighting at a disadvantage. Must be my decade of military service that turned me into such a coward where I use my mind, SA, and think hey its time to retire the field and come back once I have ammo, speed, altitude, fuel, wingmen, what have you. Must have turned me into a real tool that I do not stick around once I loose my wingman so that I can go reset with them since we have built a squadron that flies together because we like working real teamwork (flying tactics) and don't like leaving a fella sitting in the tower.
Yup. Must be a coward.
Foolish to think that way isn't it? Do not fear, I do not. I know better. Just wanted some of you to feel better about yourselves - since you had to post on a board complaining about it.
:aok
Paladin. I love the way your squad fly. It is always really awsome watching you from my cockpit :salute
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Rhetorical question...we all know your trolling.
Still nah.
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Must be my decade of military service
Thank you for your service :salute
so that I can go reset with them since we have built a squadron that flies together because we like working real teamwork (flying tactics) and don't like leaving a fella sitting in the tower.
Fastest way back to the tower is to stay and fight when you have lost advantage. ;)
It's a game. Play it! :salute
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It's a game. Play it your way! :salute
Fixed. :aok
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Fixed. :aok
You ruined it. It was correct as posted. Please correct your own posts, and leave my alone. If you would like to logically argue why everyone running away from each other makes for a thriving game environment, please do so. Vandalizing my posts, is not making an argument. :salute
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Vandalizing my cake, is not a marzipan argument. :salute
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I not only support, encourage, and tout lame gameplay, I teach it.... so that I may not be alone in my lameness!
fixed! :aok
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Skyrock I have furballed for years. I fly like I feel like flying.
I don't teach gameplay, I teach flying and air combat.
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Comming in high or patroling between bases, Pan's easy to spot amongst the horde when you find him with plenty of ammo and fuel, he's the first one running back to the field.
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What about a group of squaddies that CAP an enemy base, making it impossible for an enemy fighter to get any alt or speed before getting tag-team BnZed to death - and then calling that player an ack-hugger for refusing to get ganged?
You're blatantly using ack to protect you and generate kills, because if you had ANY other motive you can up at a neighboring field and return to the one being vulched with a superior plane at a superior strategical position BEFORE all your ack was destroyed (thus increasing your strategial advantage with time - sooner is sooner. You're waiting and flying circles in your ack at the base being vulched, because?...).
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<---- Timid! :banana: :banana:
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You're blatantly using ack to protect you and generate kills, because if you had ANY other motive you can up at a neighboring field and return to the one being vulched with a superior plane at a superior strategical position BEFORE all your ack was destroyed (thus increasing your strategial advantage with time - sooner is sooner. You're waiting and flying circles in your ack at the base being vulched, because?...).
Because it takes too long to get back to the base from one a sector distant?
I'm interested in Caldera's question. What about that group of people capping the base, making fun of someone who tries to up from it?
- oldman
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<---- Timid! :banana: :banana:
More timid than you :bolt: :banana:
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More timid than you :bolt: :banana:
Oh yeah?!! I challenge you to a run away!
We'll merge, maybe ho, then keep flying straight until we are out of Icon range!
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I don't teach gameplay, I teach flying and air combat.
In an air combat game, air combat =/= gameplay?
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Because it takes too long to get back to the base from one a sector distant?
I'm interested in Caldera's question. What about that group of people capping the base, making fun of someone who tries to up from it?
- oldman
If you get vulched it's your own fault. You can look from the tower and see planes making passes on the runway. So why up and complain? Up from another field. Your average vulcher's SA is cut in half while vulching. Come from another field and get revenge :devil
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In an air combat game, air combat =/= gameplay?
:headscratch:
Game play is up to the player. ACM is physics and geometry.
But I don't teach complaining that your opponent isn't cooperating with your plan. :lol
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You upped a plane that turns better and he wouldn't turn with you? Why didn't you up a P-51D? Too timid to fly without a turn advantage?
I think that this thought is brilliant. Maybe I like it because Its biased towards what I've thought a lot of times.
I'd consider "timid flying" when you engage a plane with similar performance and once you detect the minimum signal that the fight is not going well...you start running. Anyway, I respect "timid" fliers or another kind of style.
It's been said that "timid" fliers could ruined the game. I don't believe so. I think "timid" fliers could bias the game towards an area some don't like. But, 1 vs 1 as "the only deserved way of flying" would bias the game as well to another area where It could be called "ruined" by others.
Just my thoughts.
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Duplicated, sorry.
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Triplicated, sorry.
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Oops, sorry :(
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ACM is physics and geometry.
And a good deal more.
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Game play is up to the player. ACM is physics and geometry.
But I don't teach complaining that your opponent isn't cooperating with your plan. :lol
OP's question... 'Who are the most timid players in AH?' so, what is your answer? if you don't have an answer then why post? If your stance is 'timid is good', then take that stance... it seems you have... but as far as a 3 sector runner from a co-state 1 vs 1.... "ain't nobody got time for that"! :aok
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Game play is up to the player. ACM is physics and geometry.
But I don't teach complaining that your opponent isn't cooperating with your plan. :lol
huh?
ACM is physics. And geometry. And psychology. Predictions, reactions, decisions. And a lot more.
Those who are pansy, will never ever get the main point of the ACM, nor the "combat" part of the game.
Any ways, if your last comment was pointed at me, yes, i did, do, and will do complain when a spitfire is running away from a 109 or a mustang/jug/lala from a 190. Because i dont have time for that.
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Slide rule.....check
calculator....check
compass......check
pocket protector ....check
vicks nasal inhaler...check
Steven Hawking's photo taped to wind screen....check check
Poindexter is ready for takeoff! :joystick:
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the guy flying the p51d over 98 right now at 30k waiting for a bish to up.....and bish have a 29 eny......... :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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huh?
ACM is physics. And geometry. And psychology. Predictions, reactions, decisions. And a lot more.
Those who are pansy, will never ever get the main point of the ACM, nor the "combat" part of the game.
Any ways, if your last comment was pointed at me, yes, i did, do, and will do complain when a spitfire is running away from a 109 or a mustang/jug/lala from a 190. Because i dont have time for that.
I see that we now agree that ACM does not equal gameplay. :aok
Any player calling another player a pansy gets no respect.
The last comment you mentioned was not adressed to you, just to the thread in general.
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Any player calling another player a pansy gets no respect.
The is a serious problem somewhere when acting pansy results respect. Just to reverse your statement.
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The is a serious problem somewhere when acting pansy results respect. Just to reverse your statement.
You failed to reverse my statement. I realize English is not your first language. The reverse would be not calling somebody a pansy. You'll find this generally results in more respect than you get insulting people.
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Game play is up to the player. ACM is physics and geometry.
But I don't teach complaining that your opponent isn't cooperating with your plan. :lol
If "runners" don't respect other players time enough to make the game worth playing, for the other as well as himself, then disrespect is what the runner deserves. Trying to call the community "complainers who want people to play their way" is to not recognize the passive-agressiveness of the runners disrespectfull actions.
Example: You show to play tennis against an opponent, and you have the court booked for an hour. He elects to serve first, you stand at the ready, and he proceeds to bounce the ball for 59 minutes. When you turn your back and walk toward the bench in disgust, he serves the ball into the service box and yells out "30-luv".
Did he win? Is he "smarter" than you because his strategy worked? Do you admire him? Would you go back the clubhouse bar and tell everyone there that you respect that he chose to play the game "his way"? If you heard another player complaining that he did the same thing to him, would defend the ball bouncers right to play that way?
But according to you, because there is no rule saying you can't bounce the ball for 59 minutes, no one should complain. We should all shut up and respect the ball bouncers of AH.
I respectfully disagree. :salute
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Uhhh, not to point out the logical flaw in this reasoning...
But, by definition, aren't the AH ball-bouncers the very ones without 'em? :noid
I like to use this analogy better:
Go play online golf, at least they provide the balls. :aok
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You failed to reverse my statement. I realize English is not your first language. The reverse would be not calling somebody a pansy. You'll find this generally results in more respect than you get insulting people.
Maybe i failed to "reverse" but succeeded to "invert"? Anyway, would be a bit easyer if you were trying to get my point instead of pointing out my lingual difficulties.
So i get more respect when i fly pansy, or call it "timid", but stay quiet, than when i fight my hearth out and call out the spits running from the 109s?
If so, there is a serious problem somewhere.
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Uhhh, not to point out the logical flaw in this reasoning...
But, by definition, aren't the AH ball-bouncers the very ones without 'em? :noid
I like to use this analogy better:
Go play online golf, at least they provide the balls. :aok
You can't cheat at online golf....no pocket to hold your extra ball in case you lose all of yours....if you ever actually had any :rofl
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Uhhh, not to point out the logical flaw in this reasoning...
But, by definition, aren't the AH ball-bouncers the very ones without 'em? :noid
I like to use this analogy better:
Go play online golf, at least they provide the balls. :aok
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If "runners" don't respect other players time enough to make the game worth playing, for the other as well as himself, then disrespect is what the runner deserves. Trying to call the community "complainers who want people to play their way" is to not recognize the passive-agressiveness of the runners disrespectfull actions.
Example: You show to play tennis against an opponent, and you have the court booked for an hour. He elects to serve first, you stand at the ready, and he proceeds to bounce the ball for 59 minutes. When you turn your back and walk toward the bench in disgust, he serves the ball into the service box and yells out "30-luv".
Did he win? Is he "smarter" than you because his strategy worked? Do you admire him? Would you go back the clubhouse bar and tell everyone there that you respect that he chose to play the game "his way"? If you heard another player complaining that he did the same thing to him, would defend the ball bouncers right to play that way?
But according to you, because there is no rule saying you can't bounce the ball for 59 minutes, no one should complain. We should all shut up and respect the ball bouncers of AH.
I respectfully disagree. :salute
That would make sense if we were talking about dueling. In regard to the main arena it's nonsense.
Maybe i failed to "reverse" but succeeded to "invert"? Anyway, would be a bit easyer if you were trying to get my point instead of pointing out my lingual difficulties.
So i get more respect when i fly pansy, or call it "timid", but stay quiet, than when i fight my hearth out and call out the spits running from the 109s?
If so, there is a serious problem somewhere.
You aren't inverting, you're changing the subject. I got your point. You want people to play to suit you. I understand that.
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You aren't inverting, you're changing the subject. I got your point. You want people to play to suit you. I understand that.
lol
Im a 190 pilot.
I want the people to turn with me.
See the irony in that?
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lol
Im a 190 pilot.
I want the people to turn with me.
See the irony in that?
But you do understand (of course you do) that you're regarded as a pretty good stick, right? You calling out a Spit for running doesn't have the same effect as me doing it. The Spit driver is naturally thinking you're just baiting him (and rightfully so). You're better able to turn a Dora and kill a more turny plane than the average guy. Do you expect the timid to not know that?
It's like when Cobia (<3 Cobia :rock) does his little dig at people running from his bomber. He knows damn well he'll kill the vast majority of fighters so long as he's able to stay aggressive. He just likes goading people while acting like he's an innocent bomber pilot. :angel:
If we're really trying to change the gameplay, culture, etc., it's far better to take the pro-active approach like Changeup and others have. If you want to make a stupid person smart, you'll have more long term success by trying to teach than rather than calling them stupid.
:)
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In regard to the main arena it's nonsense.
it's not nonsense to expect another player to 'play'.... this is not new, and one can find many sports and games that actually have penalties for not being aggressive(ie shotclocks in basketball, Chess, and tennis etc.) the reason is that being too timid is generally bad for the overall enjoyment of the game....
it's like a kid taking his ball and going home when he loses the lead so he won't lose the game in kickball or something... it's his ball, you can't force him to play, but doing that is disrespectful to the other players who play the game win or lose....
You want people to play to suit you.
No.... just to play. :aok
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lol
Im a 190 pilot.
I want the people to turn with me.
See the irony in that?
I see irony when you want to improve the game by insulting players.
it's not nonsense to expect another player to 'play'.... this is not new, and one can find many sports and games that actually have penalties for not being aggressive(ie shotclocks in basketball, Chess, and tennis etc.) the reason is that being too timid is generally bad for the overall enjoyment of the game....
it's like a kid taking his ball and going home when he loses the lead so he won't lose the game in kickball or something... it's his ball, you can't force him to play, but doing that is disrespectful to the other players who play the game win or lose....
No.... just to play. :aok
It's nonsense to expect every player in the MA to be duelling you.
Everybody is playing. They just aren't playing to your preference.
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I see irony when you want to improve the game by insulting players.
Well, i dont know who is trying to insult who this time... <sigh>
Anyway. I was flying the very worst turnfighter in this game. Often enough, low, almost on the deck. All i wanted was just a fight, and often enough, couldnt get it due to the opponents were running away.
I have no idea what else i can offer them as an advantage.
Guessing, its all my fault.
But heck, i would be really curious about what do you know, you trainer, you... in a private fight, of course.
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That would make sense if we were talking about dueling. In regard to the main arena it's nonsense.
There is a huge difference between someone that stays aggressive and flies out to 5k, only to double back (after he finds help) to pick his original combatant. I'm not saying you're one of this type, but that kind of gameplay is boring and doesn't progress the ability and/or fun of anyone in the game.
If you want to debate decent game play, the high alt bombers or squads that fly as a pack in the MA can be a debate, but the above is not. It is very simple, black and white...
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There is a huge difference between someone that stays aggressive and flies out to 5k, only to double back (after he finds help) to pick his original combatant.
It's your job to kill him before he finds that help. It's not his job to give you a fair fight. You should've had the plane and the E and the gunnery to kill him before he could do that. If you didn't, that's on you.
I'm not saying you're one of this type, but that kind of gameplay is boring and doesn't progress the ability and/or fun of anyone in the game.
If you want to debate decent game play, the high alt bombers or squads that fly as a pack in the MA can be a debate, but the above is not. It is very simple, black and white...
I disagree. It's everybody's job to set themselves up to be able to kill as many of the opposing side as they can, however they can. It is also everybody's job to be responsible for their own safety, not up under a vulch, avoid the gangbang, etc.
Wiley.
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With the same phylosophy, i can fly at 50k in a 152 and say "neener, you cant shoot me down", also "you suck as it was your job to get higher".
Okay, it was an extreme case, still.
Possibly its my fault, but when i give something, i expect something back too. Nope, not that what i gave, just a little part of it. I will never ever say, only fight 1v1s in a many vs many situation, but when someone has all the cards plane-wise, also the opportunity to kill me in a fair fight (190 vs pony/jug/38, co-E, is that considered fair? or am i asking too much?), at least try. If an all around better plane is running away from an equal situation, its like shouting out loudly that "you are soooooooooooo much better than me" or "i have all the cards, but not the balls".
Its my point. Flame me, call me insulting, chest beating, what ever, i dont care any more. I have my own opinion about you. Out from this absolutely pointless "conversation", along with my insulting lingual difficulties.
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It's your job to kill him before he finds that help. It's not his job to give you a fair fight.
It also isn't my job to respect this style of game play. Can you imagine if you stayed in a defensible corner with mines around you in some 1st person shooter game? You would be immediately booted if a moderator was on, not because you can't play like that but because it is incredibly rude to other people.
You should've had the plane and the E and the gunnery to kill him before he could do that. If you didn't, that's on you.
With that in mind, everyone would fly high alt P51s... wait, they already do.
I'm not asking for a Jackie Chan type of fight, where each attacker comes at you one at a time. Unfortunately, the decorum has deteriorated in AH to the point that 1v1s are generally avoided. Try it sometime, fly out and drag an enemy out away from the pack. Most of the time, he notices he is alone and he doubles back.
With that, I'm done with the thread as I'm not going to change anyone's mind.
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:huh :huh :huh :huh This is dumb ! :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
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:huh :huh :huh :huh This is dumb ! :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
Your face :banana:
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Someone in a thread recently (may have been this one) gave a simple question to ask yourself while playing.
"If everybody played like this, what kind of game would it be?"
If you answer yourself honestly you'll know why your actions (or lack there of) are considered lame by many of us in the community.
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Well, i dont know who is trying to insult who this time... <sigh>
Anyway. I was flying the very worst turnfighter in this game. Often enough, low, almost on the deck. All i wanted was just a fight, and often enough, couldnt get it due to the opponents were running away.
I have no idea what else i can offer them as an advantage.
Guessing, its all my fault.
But heck, i would be really curious about what do you know, you trainer, you... in a private fight, of course.
I haven't insulted you. I made excuses for you. I understand your point, as I said before. I fly in the same arena. I merge in a P-51 and the bandit turns 180 and dives out. I engage 2 P-51s in a stall fight and a 190 blows through and oils me. I know how annoying it is. What I don't do is insult the players or complain about it. It's the MA, it's not a private duel.
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What both of you are effectively saying is, you want your opponents to give you a chance that they don't have to.
I'm saying I don't want an arena where my opponents are doing anything less than their best to kill me and survive. To me that's more fun, and less artificial than everybody committing to attack attack attack until they're shot down. To me, that mentality is just slightly above HOing, because it's basically guaranteed you're going to get shot down.
Wiley.
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I don't believe there was an implication that the MA should be duels only. Rather that more fighting and less running makes for more, well, fighting :banana:
Of course if people want to run that's up to them, as I watch them go I often think to myself: yup that guy doesn't want to fight. After I break off and he comes back, I think: he definitely wants kills though. :lol
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These are all symptoms....just symptoms. The disease is score and how it affects status. The people typing about fighting are generally the folks I know to NOT care about score...note I said people I know. They know who they are.
Score to most relates as follows:
Score = skill level = should be respected by the community as a capable fighter without a need to either fight or prove ones score
There you have it. Eliminate all scoring and everyone will fight. Why? No particular reason to stay alive except pride and that will get beaten out of your bellybutton quickly in an environment that's only pecking order tree is based on films of you beating the snot out of others because that requires real skill.
Have a nice day
Dr Changeup
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It's nonsense to expect every player in the MA to be duelling you.
Everybody is playing. They just aren't playing to your preference.
why do you keep saying "duel"... this thread is an opinion piece on who we think are the most timid players in AH... it's simple... I have been specific in my choice for most timid and I chose the player that always runs unless he is part of the ganging... calling them timid is being too nice.... I now place you on the timid list as I bet you play this exact same way... at least your stats suggest that.... when I see a vet only cherry picking, and running 3 sectors at the first sight of anything co-state, I lose respect for that player, and you coming in here defending that type of play means you're right there with them... :aok
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What both of you are effectively saying is, you want your opponents to give you a chance that they don't have to.
Wiley.
What we are explaining is why excessive running hurts game play,the community, and the game. What are asking is for those who run to maybe explain it. They can't. You and FLS keep defending their "right" to run, without explaining the rationell for running. If there is a good reason, I could be persuaded to respect it, and the player. So far no such case has been brought forth. Neither by you or FLS.
Would like to actually explain it? :salute
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These are all symptoms....just symptoms. The disease is score and how it affects status.
The effect of score on 'status' is often overrated.
As a frequently "top ranked" player for years, I can say
- almost nobody cares about it in the first place
- In case someone actually does, the derogatory remarks outnumber the 'admiring' ones by at least 3-1. The latter ones usually coming from very new players only. Almost everybody else doesn't care if I'm ranked #1 or #855.
Last year I was #1 in fighters for the first time ever in my 7 years of AH... and I still don't get laid :furious :cry
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These are all symptoms....just symptoms. The disease is score and how it affects status. The people typing about fighting are generally the folks I know to NOT care about score...note I said people I know. They know who they are.
Score to most relates as follows:
Score = skill level = should be respected by the community as a capable fighter without a need to either fight or prove ones score
There you have it. Eliminate all scoring and everyone will fight. Why? No particular reason to stay alive except pride and that will get beaten out of your bellybutton quickly in an environment that's only pecking order tree is based on films of you beating the snot out of others
Have a nice day
Dr Changeup
even 6 year old kids playing youth soccer where Mon won't let them keep score....even they keep track of who's winning
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even 6 year old kids playing youth soccer where Mon won't let them keep score....even they keep track of who's winning
That's a team sport. Scores in game are not team scores. Poor example
What they actually keep track of are the number of studs on the opposing team, not the score itself. Having played sports at a high level and having a 10 year old son who plays, the kids know who the studs are the minute the game starts. There are gamers and there are people who need a score to officially declare a victor. I can tell you like scores, lmao!
I'm saying with no score in game, people would have nothing to equate their uberness to except how many fights they win or lose AND who is beating them. Period
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These are all symptoms....just symptoms. The disease is score and how it affects status.
I would go further Dr. Changeup and say that it is a manifestation of an increasingly results-focused and egotistical Western culture announcing primarily as an insecure symptomatic mismatch betwixt words and deeds, the newly installed 'Kill Club' section of our forum being a prime example of the value of presentation over content.
It's not the 'score' as such, it's how 'products of the above culture' interpret their defeats in this Virtual Environment.
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The effect of score on 'status' is often overrated.
As a frequently "top ranked" player for years, I can say
- almost nobody cares about it in the first place
- In case someone actually does, the derogatory remarks outnumber the 'admiring' ones by at least 3-1. The latter ones usually coming from very new players only. Almost everybody else doesn't care if I'm ranked #1 or #855.
Last year I was #1 in fighters for the first time ever in my 7 years of AH... and I still don't get laid :furious :cry
You're entitled to your opinion. I, therefore you, is the worst way to make an argument. Truth is that you, nor I have any idea what others think about scoring...or how scoring affects their gameplay. You just don't Lusche. Please don't try to make an argument that is fact based on your opinions because the only fact involved in that argument is that it's your opinion.
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You're entitled to your opinion. I, therefore you, is the worst way to make an argument. Truth is that you, nor I have any idea what others think about scoring...or how scoring affects their gameplay. You just don't Lusche. Please don't try to make an argument that is fact based on your opinions because the only fact involved in that argument is that it's your opinion.
Totally unlike your statments which don't have any opinion in them, right? :)
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I would go further Dr. Changeup and say that it is a manifestation of an increasingly results-focused and egotistical Western culture announcing primarily as an insecure symptomatic mismatch betwixt words and deeds, the newly installed 'Kill Club' section of our forum being a prime example of the value of presentation over content.
It's not the 'score' as such, it's how 'products of the above culture' interpret their defeats in this Virtual Environment.
An example would be "you beat me but my score is better than yours, so I'm actually a better cartoon pilot than you"
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look tardlings... I am the most timid....
... it is settled... here is a doughnut... (or a Berliner/pfannkuchen for Snailman)
oh.. and score means jack butt-cake
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I nominate SQUAT for flying in the red gangbange last night along with saying your going to bring your 109 at 5 k then seeing you at 10 k coming in.
:lol
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look tardlings... I am the most timid....
... it is settled... here is a doughnut... (or a Berliner/pfannkuchen for Snailman)
I made my claim before you! :old:
But I'm willing to sell my rigths for another Berliner :noid
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Totally unlike your statments which don't have any opinion in them, right? :)
Mine was a hypothesis that I expected to generate a healthy discourse to prove or negate. Your ensuing counter was an opinion. I can cite exactly 131 in game pictures of players on 200 quoting someone else's score to try to diminish the other players skill level. Thats a fact.
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I don't believe there was an implication that the MA should be duels only. Rather that more fighting and less running makes for more, well, fighting :banana:
Of course if people want to run that's up to them, as I watch them go I often think to myself: yup that guy doesn't want to fight. After I break off and he comes back, I think: he definitely wants kills though. :lol
Don't you think it has more to do with Timid Timmy lacking the confidence to fight on your terms? In a P-38, I don't have the skill to engage and kill a Ki-84 unless I have some sort of an advantage. I'm simply not good enough.
I think fighting is awesome. Sometimes I mindlessly furball and fight in an effort to sharpen my skills. Disadvantage be damned. I mean, it is instructive. You really do learn to push your a/c a little further, and that's a good thing. I reach a point though, where I feel like I'm just being a dummy. Up. Shoot. Kill. Die. Repeat. Doing that over and over (or stone sober :)) isn't really fun to me. It's then I start trying to actually pay attention to stuff around me. Yes, that means I'm actually trying to survive. Sometimes that means discretion is the better form of valor, knowing one's limitations, and other profound expressions.
:salute
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lol love the cheating accusation from TKO in your sig Snailman ;D
that guy is a real piece of work
With regard to the actual topic at hand, you just have to accept that there are more people that want to not die than there are people that want to have a good fight
Score or no score, sadly that is just the way it is. Most people are wired to feel that dying (even if it's only in a cartoon plane of which there are an infinite number in the hangar) is a negative thing and will do everything they can to avoid it
Die-hard fight at all costs types might say 'well that's fine, but why do they have to be so lame and decide to fight when they have a 3-1 advantage, or pick me when I find someone that DOES want to fight' etc etc...
Again, sadly, that's just the way it is. Human nature. Cheap tactics and lack of sportsmanship are not limited to Aces High, but they are especially common because there is not much in the game to prohibit or discourage it. So from that we can assume that HiTech wants it that way.
They surely don't want the majority of their playerbase (i.e. the timid players) unsubscribing because they are suddenly forced into fair fights against players who will :ahand them every time...
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look tardlings... I am the most timid....
... it is settled... here is a doughnut... (or a Berliner/pfannkuchen for Snailman)
oh.. and score means jack butt-cake
It is so obvious, I am much more timid than all of you...
1. I never fight unless there are 10 friendlies against that single P40C.
2. I will never fly anything slower than a P51.
3. I always HO on the merge, especially if there are more good guys around than bad.
4. I engage, run and only reengage when the other guy is engaged with some one else.
You see bunnies, it is not possible to be more timid than me.
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What we are explaining is why excessive running hurts game play,the community, and the game. What are asking is for those who run to maybe explain it. They can't. You and FLS keep defending their "right" to run, without explaining the rationell for running. If there is a good reason, I could be persuaded to respect it, and the player. So far no such case has been brought forth. Neither by you or FLS.
Would like to actually explain it? :salute
Ok, I'll take the proverbial whack at it. While I'm not generally inclined to run from a somewhat fair 1v1, I'm sure most of you guys would consider my MA style timid depending on the situation you ran into me on.
Usually I log in, find the biggest red bar dar I can, and up far enough away from it to get there with alt. Simply put, my goal when I fly is to push the enemy around airspace. I'm there to stop them from moving forward, hit the bombers/heavy fighters that are trying to degrade our capabilities, and kill as many aircraft as I can pretty much in that order. Stopping the advance goes hand in hand with hitting bombers most of the time.
I like to land my kills. Has precisely nothing to do with my name in lights. Why do I do it then? Because it means I did my job and survived to go home. Anybody can go into a crowd and shoot at anything that comes into range and rack up some kills until they're picked. Sure, it takes skill to survive for a long while doing it. Only an idiot would say otherwise.
To me, playing that way is essentially not caring whether you live or die. Constantly putting yourself in situations where you're inevitably going to get shot down to me is little different from taking a HO shot. If you HO enough people, you're eventually going to die. If you dive into a big enough crowd of red, you're eventually going to die. Same difference.
Where I get my jollies is trying to figure out how to kill some of them and get away with it, rather than going down in a blaze of glory. If I am not thinking of my exit strategy, it takes 3/4 of the tension away from the fight, because I don't have to worry about getting out of the situation I'm in.
There are pretty much 4 situations that will get me to get out of dodge:
1) 3 or more bandits with E are looking my way and I have no help.
2) Low fuel.
3) Low ammo.
4) Missing enough control surfaces or have taken enough damage to make me ineffective. Usually some combination of ailerons and rudder.
I hope that makes some sense.
Wiley.
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You see bunnies, it is not possible to be more timid than me.
We need to have our run-away off!!!!
:D
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I ran away from your challenge of a run away off.
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That's a team sport. Scores in game are not team scores. Poor example
What they actually keep track of are the number of studs on the opposing team, not the score itself. Having played sports at a high level and having a 10 year old son who plays, the kids know who the studs are the minute the game starts. There are gamers and there are people who need a score to officially declare a victor. I can tell you like scores, lmao!
I'm saying with no score in game, people would have nothing to equate their uberness to except how many fights they win or lose AND who is beating them. Period
hmm....ok. Take away every viable way of tracking player effectiveness, people will still: A keep track of who's best/better B.do their level damndest to survive every encounter with red pixels, try and find every method possible to kill MORE red pixels. Watch DA lake for a while.....many/haven't worked out how to be an effective cartoon pilot....and they hate dying, so the next step: become better? Nnnnoooooo....get a tempest or an F4u4....human nature, for most
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Ok, I'll take the proverbial whack at it. While I'm not generally inclined to run from a somewhat fair 1v1, I'm sure most of you guys would consider my MA style timid depending on the situation you ran into me on.
Usually I log in, find the biggest red bar dar I can, and up far enough away from it to get there with alt. Simply put, my goal when I fly is to push the enemy around airspace. I'm there to stop them from moving forward, hit the bombers/heavy fighters that are trying to degrade our capabilities, and kill as many aircraft as I can pretty much in that order. Stopping the advance goes hand in hand with hitting bombers most of the time.
I like to land my kills. Has precisely nothing to do with my name in lights. Why do I do it then? Because it means I did my job and survived to go home. Anybody can go into a crowd and shoot at anything that comes into range and rack up some kills until they're picked. Sure, it takes skill to survive for a long while doing it. Only an idiot would say otherwise.
To me, playing that way is essentially not caring whether you live or die. Constantly putting yourself in situations where you're inevitably going to get shot down to me is little different from taking a HO shot. If you HO enough people, you're eventually going to die. If you dive into a big enough crowd of red, you're eventually going to die. Same difference.
Where I get my jollies is trying to figure out how to kill some of them and get away with it, rather than going down in a blaze of glory. If I am not thinking of my exit strategy, it takes 3/4 of the tension away from the fight, because I don't have to worry about getting out of the situation I'm in.
There are pretty much 4 situations that will get me to get out of dodge:
1) 3 or more bandits with E are looking my way and I have no help.
2) Low fuel.
3) Low ammo.
4) Missing enough control surfaces or have taken enough damage to make me ineffective. Usually some combination of ailerons and rudder.
I hope that makes some sense.
Wiley.
But as you said. You will fight the 1 v 1. Nothing wrong with not fighting 2+ rd guys. RTB low amo fuel ext isn't timid. you can fly smart and not be timid. timid is running from the 1v1 just because it's either co alt and equal terms or you don't have a friend or 2 to help you. Flying the way you describe in my opinion is flying both smart and with some balls. Not many will take on the hord alone even with alt. If you want to know what my definition of timid is in it's purist form. Watch Pand fly
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I ran away from your challenge of a run away off.
:rofl :rofl to timid for the timid challenge
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:rofl :rofl to timid for the timid challenge
Pretty much, I jump at my own shadow.
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Pretty much, I jump at my own shadow.
yeah... shadows are quite scary... :old:
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I would go further Dr. Changeup and say that it is a manifestation of an increasingly results-focused and egotistical Western culture announcing primarily as an insecure symptomatic mismatch betwixt words and deeds, the newly installed 'Kill Club' section of our forum being a prime example of the value of presentation over content.
It's not the 'score' as such, it's how 'products of the above culture' interpret their defeats in this Virtual Environment.
hmmmm, this feels like an insult
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hmm....ok. Take away every viable way of tracking player effectiveness, people will still: A keep track of who's best/better B.do their level damndest to survive every encounter with red pixels, try and find every method possible to kill MORE red pixels. Watch DA lake for a while.....many/haven't worked out how to be an effective cartoon pilot....and they hate dying, so the next step: become better? Nnnnoooooo....get a tempest or an F4u4....human nature, for most
You are correct. Take away score and they'll have to actually fight to see who's really better. Let them grab perk planes....it matters not to me....as long as they want to fight me.
Thank you....I'll be here the rest of the week
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I am quite sure my shadow wants to keel me :bolt:
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I am quite sure my shadow wants to keel me :bolt:
It wasn't me, nor the one armed man.... fluff'n shadow!! :bhead
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:bhead dang walls now I have to run from them too.
Just cannot get serious about this thread.
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You are correct. Take away score and they'll have to actually fight to see who's really better. Let them grab perk planes....it matters not to me....as long as they want to fight me.
Thank you....I'll be here the rest of the week
eek....a new Midway has been born
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eek....a new Midway has been born
Now, that's below the belt sir and completely uncalled for. Truth is, if the metrics to measure score can be manipulated by style, removing them will produce quitters or fighters. Who cares what they fight in....Ive fought you and seen you fight...perky planes won't bother you either
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Because it takes too long to get back to the base from one a sector distant?
I'm interested in Caldera's question. What about that group of people capping the base, making fun of someone who tries to up from it?
- oldman
So then it's the failed logic of the attackers then, who are flying one sector distance to wait and watch (or, like me, choose to not and roll the dice in the gauntlet (or maybe even try deacking)) red guys up to immediatley begin flying in circles around their ack guns, because we came looking about one sector for something to fight/kill. Do I understand you, correctly?
Since "the wrong" is upon those "suckers" that are investing the time to fly one sector, yes?
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I just realized my previous post left out an important component of why I think it's okay for people to run.
When I come into the enemy area with my alt, I usually hold all the cards on the first guy or two I engage, or at least am co-E with them. I'm screaming in with smash looking for the high guys looking for a pick/defending buffs, then I'm looking for buffs, and if neither is in the area, targets of opportunity. I work my way from the top down.
What a lot of people do when I come in at ridiculous speed is split-s and run to the crowd. It's not a terrible move, ruins my shot unless my predictions are particularly good that day, and puts them into a stronger defensive situation. I now have to come down into their crowd if I want to play.
Why is that wrong of them? I've now still got my advantage, but I have a multitude of targets to problem-solve for and try to figure out where the next threat is. I've also got to consider the dots co-alt out of icon range, whether they're friend or foe. Etc etc.
Often while I'm doing this, there's a bunch of friendly guys doing their thing below 5k feet. The guy that ran from me is now not in nearly as comfortable a position to pick as he was. He's also looking over his shoulder at me because he didn't deal with the threat. Maybe now more of my buddies have the E to be threats to him.
I'm also now in a position to attack or push down other bandits as I see fit. I have achieved more control over the airspace all because the high con didn't engage me.
Of course, sometimes it'll be a guy that knows what he's doing and the high alt fight is on.
My point is, I created the advantages I'm using against them, they aren't giving me anything in that fight, and it's up to me to keep my advantage or fight well enough when I decide to give it up to survive. If I get low and slow and someone outruns me headed to friendlies, I can't fault him for getting away from me.
To me, that feels more organic and 'real' than everybody being fearless and engaging when I come in with smash.
Wiley.
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why do you keep saying "duel"... this thread is an opinion piece on who we think are the most timid players in AH... it's simple... I have been specific in my choice for most timid and I chose the player that always runs unless he is part of the ganging... calling them timid is being too nice.... I now place you on the timid list as I bet you play this exact same way... at least your stats suggest that.... when I see a vet only cherry picking, and running 3 sectors at the first sight of anything co-state, I lose respect for that player, and you coming in here defending that type of play means you're right there with them... :aok
I brought up duels because the opinions expressed regarding MA players being obligated to engage are only reasonable expectations for duels.
I understand the OP just wanted to name and shame players.
I'm not defending timid flying, I'm defending a player's right to fly any way they please without being abused, because they pay to play the same as you do.
If you can believe I'm timid I don't mind. :lol
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I brought up duels because the opinions expressed regarding MA players being obligated to engage are only reasonable expectations for duels.
No, not really.
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FLS, although you're argument about paying players should be able to play they way they want to without harassment or ridicule may be valid to an certain extent, by the same token we as paying players have the right to expect what is considered "acceptable" play by the vast majority of players.
Case in point...bailing from bombers. Sure, you are allowed to bomb your target and are not forced to land, but most of the player base would agree that this is not acceptable game play.
I find it hard to believe that you yourself would not get miffed at the guy that would do nothing but swoop down from space, guns blazing in the head-on repeatedly and then running home to the safety of his ack. In real life that might be acceptable..I personally would be worried about court martial for cowardest.
But this isn't real life. It's a combat game meant to be played. Play it for Christ's sakes! The air races are in the SEA arenas.
I have no problem breaking off from the fight when advantage is lost or you're completely out numbered. But reset, come back and finish the fight. If out numbered at least try to drag out single cons for a 1vs1. Don't run clear across the map trying to avoid be shot down.
You as a trainer should know that this is time you need that ACM training under your belt. What's the point in training folks on ACM if you don't encourage them to use it?
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Ok, I'll take the proverbial whack at it. While I'm not generally inclined to run from a somewhat fair 1v1, I'm sure most of you guys would consider my MA style timid depending on the situation you ran into me on.
Usually I log in, find the biggest red bar dar I can, and up far enough away from it to get there with alt. Simply put, my goal when I fly is to push the enemy around airspace. I'm there to stop them from moving forward, hit the bombers/heavy fighters that are trying to degrade our capabilities, and kill as many aircraft as I can pretty much in that order. Stopping the advance goes hand in hand with hitting bombers most of the time.
I like to land my kills. Has precisely nothing to do with my name in lights. Why do I do it then? Because it means I did my job and survived to go home. Anybody can go into a crowd and shoot at anything that comes into range and rack up some kills until they're picked. Sure, it takes skill to survive for a long while doing it. Only an idiot would say otherwise.
To me, playing that way is essentially not caring whether you live or die. Constantly putting yourself in situations where you're inevitably going to get shot down to me is little different from taking a HO shot. If you HO enough people, you're eventually going to die. If you dive into a big enough crowd of red, you're eventually going to die. Same difference.
Where I get my jollies is trying to figure out how to kill some of them and get away with it, rather than going down in a blaze of glory. If I am not thinking of my exit strategy, it takes 3/4 of the tension away from the fight, because I don't have to worry about getting out of the situation I'm in.
There are pretty much 4 situations that will get me to get out of dodge:
1) 3 or more bandits with E are looking my way and I have no help.
2) Low fuel.
3) Low ammo.
4) Missing enough control surfaces or have taken enough damage to make me ineffective. Usually some combination of ailerons and rudder.
I hope that makes some sense.
Wiley.
Wiley,
thanks for that. I can say that I agree with this whole thing, and play very much the same way. I will leave a fight if ganged, or I'm out of gas etc.. I don't really whine at runners, becasue they could have a ligit reason for running as you have explained. Every run is not the same. But do these career runners fall in the same category? True story....
Pilot, who has won the tour several times, shows up at 20k in a Pony on a very light action weekday morning. I'm at 12k in a 109k4. I push a very bad situation and climb as straight up at him as I can. He Climb away from me! not a single pass, no guns, no nothing. I level out to get enough speed to keep him icon range. He turns for home at 28K. I persue. At 4K icon he goes nose down. I chase him for over two sectors at nearly 500mph. He tries to drag me over field ack at two different bases, but doesn't stop at the base, just makes me go around it to get more seperation. He eventually ends up at CV. I break off and lug the engine down just make it back to friendly territory where I ditch. I re-up back at the base and about 10 minutes into the sortie he's back. No eggs, no rockets, flying around looking for a con I supposed. SO I ablige by heading his way and off he goes...again. <sigh>
Seriously? :rolleyes:
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I'm defending a player's right to fly any way they please without being abused, because they pay to play the same as you do.
The community is making it clear that their flying style is a form of abuse. You, choose not to recognize it as such. :salute
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I brought up duels because the opinions expressed regarding MA players being obligated to engage are only reasonable expectations for duels.
I understand the OP just wanted to name and shame players.
I'm not defending timid flying, I'm defending a player's right to fly any way they please without being abused, because they pay to play the same as you do.
If you can believe I'm timid I don't mind. :lol
bottom line is, if someone flies the way I described, then it should not offend them to be called out for it... it is what it is... lame as hell! Nobody is "abusing" anyone.... a critique by others should be expected, we have a scoring system, do you think it is abuse that a players rank is 3500? Is HT abusing them by a system that ranks them that low? No... it is what it is... if anything it should be an incentive to grow a pair and get off this list! :aok
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This is like calling someone a camper on Call of Duty...
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So then it's the failed logic of the attackers then, who are flying one sector distance to wait and watch (or, like me, choose to not and roll the dice in the gauntlet (or maybe even try deacking)) red guys up to immediatley begin flying in circles around their ack guns, because we came looking about one sector for something to fight/kill. Do I understand you, correctly?
Since "the wrong" is upon those "suckers" that are investing the time to fly one sector, yes?
It may be that I don't grasp your response (I find it happens often these days). I understood from Caldera's post that there are people capping a base who make fun of someone who ups against their superior numbers and circles in his ack. I don't understand why they would make fun of him. Presumably they (or at least all of them except you) don't want to fly into the ack because they risk getting shot down. They would prefer that the target of their scorn up from a distant base so that they will be free to strafe the ack, or come out of the ack at an altitude disadvantage so they can vulch him, or do whatever else people do when they're part of an unopposed bunch capping a base. That strikes me as far more timid than the action of the defender climbing in his ack.
Hey, if you let the guy climb up a bit he might just come out of the ack and give you a fight. Wasn't that what you wanted?
- oldman
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I would go further Dr. Changeup and say that it is a manifestation of an increasingly results-focused and egotistical Western culture announcing primarily as an insecure symptomatic mismatch betwixt words and deeds, the newly installed 'Kill Club' section of our forum being a prime example of the value of presentation over content.
I am almost insulted, sir.
I thought it was very worthy of public recognition the way that I mastered... no.... PWN'd! that steak and cheese chimichanga!
Good Day to you, SIR!
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Don't you think it has more to do with Timid Timmy lacking the confidence to fight on your terms? In a P-38, I don't have the skill to engage and kill a Ki-84 unless I have some sort of an advantage. I'm simply not good enough.
I think fighting is awesome. Sometimes I mindlessly furball and fight in an effort to sharpen my skills. Disadvantage be damned. I mean, it is instructive. You really do learn to push your a/c a little further, and that's a good thing. I reach a point though, where I feel like I'm just being a dummy. Up. Shoot. Kill. Die. Repeat. Doing that over and over (or stone sober :)) isn't really fun to me. It's then I start trying to actually pay attention to stuff around me. Yes, that means I'm actually trying to survive. Sometimes that means discretion is the better form of valor, knowing one's limitations, and other profound expressions.
:salute
I think Timid Timmy has simply found he can get kills and land them for all the world to see while mostly managing to avoid playing the actual 'game' completely. Of course thinking in absolutes isn't useful.
Your second paragraph is interesting. Is your internal purpose to fight hard and try to win in this circumstance or to try and experiment with your ACM and expand your technique?
hmmmm, this feels like an insult
You know where to find me if you want to fight about it. :mad:
I am almost insulted, sir.
I thought it was very worthy of public recognition the way that I mastered... no.... PWN'd! that steak and cheese chimichanga!
Good Day to you, SIR!
:eek:
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Timid is just a word used in substitute of 'Why don't you fly in a way that I can kill you?'
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Timid is just a word used in substitute of 'Why don't you fly in a way that I can kill you?'
It can be but not necessarily.
Yesterday I was flying a Mosquito against a Ki-84 flown by one of the Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai. We began roughly co-e but he refused to manoeuvre with me and broke off to climb until he could set up a BnZ-based fight. I do not know that I could have defeated him in a manoeuvring fight but I was willing to try and he was not, he played it safe and arranged the fight in the safest way possible for himself by way of superior climb rate.
He was looking for a kill, I was looking for a fight. He got what he wanted but I didn't. Arguably he was smarter to secure every advantage possible especially if his emphasis is on 'winning' but it doesn't make for good gameplay.
In my opinion just how much advantage players find necessary to secure before engaging is a good measure of how timid they are.
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It can be but not necessarily.
Yesterday I was flying a Mosquito against a Ki-84 flown by one of the Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai. We began roughly co-e but he refused to manoeuvre with me and broke off to climb until he could set up a BnZ-based fight. I do not know that I could have defeated him in a manoeuvring fight but I was willing to try and he was not, he played it safe and arranged the fight in the safest way possible for himself by way of superior climb rate.
He was looking for a kill, I was looking for a fight. He got what he wanted but I didn't. Arguably he was smarter to secure every advantage possible especially if his emphasis is on 'winning' but it doesn't make for good gameplay.
In my opinion just how much advantage players find necessary to secure before engaging is a good measure of how timid they are.
So true skill is the ability to take the fight regardless of your own situational readiness...advantage or not. I like that.
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The community is making it clear that their flying style is a form of abuse. You, choose not to recognize it as such. :salute
You aren't the community, you're a vocal minority that wants the game to be less challenging for yourself with no regard for new player retention or growing the community.
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So true skill is the ability to take the fight regardless of your own situational readiness...advantage or not. I like that.
I would say skill is the ability to out fly your opponent by compensating for shortcomings in your aircraft type or situation.
Anyone less willing to lose than to progress is inevitably placing a plateau in their own future path.
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You aren't the community, you're a vocal minority that wants the game to be less challenging for yourself with no regard for new player retention or growing the community.
This statement is incorrect on all counts. :salute
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True skill is overcoming any and all tactics that any given opponent(s) may chose to use against you at any given time.
Any other definition is more often than not the voice of elitism.
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Your second paragraph is interesting. Is your internal purpose to fight hard and try to win in this circumstance or to try and experiment with your ACM and expand your technique?
Both? The expansion of technique depends on what the bad guys make me do, I suppose. I always try to win though, even when it's pretty clear its impossible.
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True skill is overcoming any and all tactics that any given opponent(s) may chose to use against you at any given time.
Surely that's a definition of the evolution of a perfect skill which makes you invulnerable. Do you think this is feasible?
The expansion of technique depends on what the bad guys make me do...
Exactly, and there is the validity of it.
I always try to win though, even when it's pretty clear its impossible.
Don't try to win, try to fly well, the outcome is incidental.
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You aren't the community, you're a vocal minority
I agree with this. I can't see anyone erecting as the community voice. Even the whole bbs is a biased point of view of those who we write here. I've even seen some posts here saying 1 vs 1 is not the only way, and I also think they can not representate the whole feeling of the community.
I only see a bunch of players expressing they are not satisfied about how the community is playing.....
:salute
Edit: And another bunch of players saying there are others points of view.
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Surely that's a definition of the evolution of a perfect skill which makes you invulnerable. Do you think this is feasible?
No because there are infinite ways an opponent can fight you if you break it down to a matter of maths, geometry and physics. But it is an ambition one can aspire to indefinitely.
I don't like elitism in this game, I find it is like a cancer that slowly sucks the life out of the arena. It is the diversity that keeps me entertained and keeps the arena alive. Elitism is in fact the plateau that halts progress, nothing else.
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It is the diversity that keeps me entertained and keeps the arena alive.
Same here. Finding "anything" in the MA is what I really like. I respect people who want an arena biased towards 1 vs 1 fights, but I want to express that for me its just another leg of the fun table.
Edit: Trying my best to not porking english language
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I can understand your english perfectly
Where are you from Kovel?
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Spain.
I make mistakes writting it. I try my best though as a respect towards who is reading :salute
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Gracias!
that is all my Spanish...
Cerveza perhaps, if I got that right
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If you drink it as well as you write it....you are fine ;)
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This statement is incorrect on all counts. :salute
No its not. You are not the entire community. You are vinkman.
My opinion on this thread and the direction it has taken is this : I fight to the death just as INK states he does. I may not fly directly into 30 red guys as he claims, but none the less i fight. When I am in the MA i do not expect everyone to turn with me. People have their own styles to flying. If someone BnZs me or "picks" me it does aggravate me. Still i am not going to blast them for doing so. You shouldn't really sit here and argue the fact that some people sit at 30k and never fight. It is pointless and you wont get anywhere with it. Ignore it and move on.
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My opinion on this thread and the direction it has taken is this : I fight to the death just as INK states he does. I may not fly directly into 30 red guys as he claims, but none the less i fight. When I am in the MA i do not expect everyone to turn with me. People have their own styles to flying. If someone BnZs me or "picks" me it does aggravate me. Still i am not going to blast them for doing so. You shouldn't really sit here and argue the fact that some people sit at 30k and never fight. It is pointless and you wont get anywhere with it. Ignore it and move on.
this.
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I agree with this. I can't see anyone erecting as the community voice. Even the whole bbs is a biased point of view of those who we write here. I've even seen some posts here saying 1 vs 1 is not the only way, and I also think they can not representate the whole feeling of the community.
I only see a bunch of players expressing they are not satisfied about how the community is playing.....
:salute
Edit: And another bunch of players saying there are others points of view.
Are you sure? I see a lot of people complaining in the MA and on the boards about excessive and habitual running. I see some people defending their right to play that way...not defending the play style. Very very few have actually defended it. Please do not confuse every extend, or every exit from combat as the same thing. Wiley summed up nicely that there are times to leave a fight. That is not what the OP was asking. He's asking which players make their entire strategy about never engaging a target that will engage them back. Such players exist. There is no evidence supporting the community being split their opinions about their play. You and FLS assume silence means players support them. Those that are vocal, are a statistical representation of both sides. So if more people vocalize displeasure for something, than support it, that is the best evidence of community stance on a subject. Assuming the contrary is fantasy.
To Batfink,
Yes elitism is at the center of this for some, but not me. I do not think of myself as capable of playing a certain way because I'm better than those who chose to play another way. I am a sportsman. I have played organized, and un-organized team sports for over 40 years. I understand the value of sportsmanship on game quality. Poor sportsmanship, at its core, is not being able to handle losing. Fun, respect, civility, and quality game play all take a back seat to doing what ever it takes not to lose. The "Game" is lost and only an argument exsits to be settled. This is why there are two sayings...
Winning isn't everything...It's the only thing.
and
It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.
I've never believed Winning is everything. And I've never respected those who do, and chose not to play with them when possible. :salute
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No its not. You are not the entire community. You are vinkman.
Yes it is. See above.
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Yes it is. See above.
No. Still YOU aren't the entire community. Let people play how they want too..
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Are you sure? I see a lot of people complaining in the MA and on the boards about excessive and habitual running. I see some people defending their right to play that way...not defending the play style. Very very few have actually defended it. Please do not confuse every extend, or every exit from combat as the same thing. Wiley summed up nicely that there are times to leave a fight. That is not what the OP was asking. He's asking which players make their entire strategy about never engaging a target that will engage them back. Such players exist. There is no evidence supporting the community being split their opinions about their play. You and FLS assume silence means players support them. Those that are vocal, are a statistical representation of both sides. So if more people vocalize displeasure for something, than support it, that is the best evidence of community stance on a subject. Assuming the contrary is fantasy.
Hey Vinkman. I've just read it completely. I don't agree. I see too many assumptions there for me. Please, use my post you are quoting as another answer to your own quote.
:salute
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No. Still YOU aren't the entire community. Let people play how they want too..
I am stating the facts. In this thread the ratio of players mocking runners to supporting them is 17:9. So the cummunity (with best and only facts in evidence) is against this strategy by ~ 2:1. :salute
Hey Vinkman. I've just read it completely. I don't agree. I see too many assumptions there for me. Please, use my post you are quoting as another answer to your own quote.
:salute
No assumptions. See above. :salute
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He's asking which players make their entire strategy about never engaging a target that will engage them back. Such players exist.
Realism the the only answer. Those seeking a realistic experience (in this case, not dying) are probably going to try to fly their planes 'as they did in the war', which we all know was more picks and afk kills than romantic, white knuckle dogfighting. They're playing the game a different way. A way that is in stark contrast to how others play. Therein lies the conflict.
Personally, I use the scenarios for the 'immersion' aspect. I'm all over the map in the MA. Sometimes I'm flying super aggressive, flinging myself into absolutely stupid situations and other times I'm trying to fly 'smart'. I really can understand both sides of it.
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Realism the the only answer. Those seeking a realistic experience (in this case, not dying) are probably going to try to fly their planes 'as they did in the war', which we all know was more picks and afk kills than romantic, white knuckle dogfighting. They're playing the game a different way. A way that is in stark contrast to how others play. Therein lies the conflict.
Personally, I use the scenarios for the 'immersion' aspect. I'm all over the map in the MA. Sometimes I'm flying super aggressive, flinging myself into absolutely stupid situations and other times I'm trying to fly 'smart'. I really can understand both sides of it.
Yes I've thought this might be a possible option as well. The idea that a player wants to emerse themselves in a real war scenario. But what happens here is so unlike the real war. I still think this would be time bound. Do it for a while, then move on to something else. I wouldn't begrudge a person doing this for a tour or a week or a day to have the experince, but they should realize they aren't adding to gameplay experience for others, and should not make it a perminent style of play. :salute
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I am stating the facts. In this thread the ratio of players mocking runners to supporting them is 17:9. So the cummunity (with best and only facts in evidence) is against this strategy by ~ 2:1. :salute
No assumptions. See above. :salute
Yes Vinkman. But if you start a thread saying that, for example, you don't feel comfortable about how noisy your neighbour is when you play and 5 guys say that they agree, you can't assume that 100% of the community thinks so.
Anyway, as I said....I can understand you are not comfortable with the comunity...and of course, you have all the rights to express it. But I hope you can understand as well that there are other people who thinks that there are more legs in the game .
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Do it for a while, then move on to something else. I wouldn't begrudge a person doing this for a tour or a week or a day to have the experince, but they should realize they aren't adding to gameplay experience for others, and should not make it a perminent style of play. :salute
While I don't understand how someone always plays the game the exact same way every day and doesn't get bored, I can't say I think it's the responsibility of one guy to change the way he plays just for the good of everyone else. I think the onus is on each of us to find the type(s) of gameplay that float our boat. Like ACE said, telling someone they're doing it wrong, even if there was an actual right and wrong, won't really do much.
I do have a possible compromise though. If everyone, at least one night a week, played the game piss drunk, there would be much more fighting. :cheers:
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Like any other multiplayer game (that vasts swathes of this community have never played, or at least not in recent memory - which is fine) there are ways to play certain classes.
Snipers aren't "timid" because they don't get right up in an assaultman's shotgun range... on the contrary, the ones that do are quickly shot in the face with said shotgun.
In THOSE games, instead of coming to the forum and attempting to disparage said "timid" snipers, one either grabs a sniper rifle, or sneaks up and knifes the crap out of them (which is far more awesome).
If you are tired of someone running from you, get in something faster or play smarter, etc... people want their happy meal THEIR way, right now, and when they don't get it they throw a fit on 200.
It's old.
Enjoy the entire plane set. Enjoy Aces High.
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I am stating the facts. In this thread the ratio of players mocking runners to supporting them is 17:9. So the cummunity (with best and only facts in evidence) is against this strategy by ~ 2:1. :salute
No assumptions. See above. :salute
Your logic is as fallacious as your statistical analysis is wrong. You lack any facts at all. You are "assuming" that the majority of players are all vociferous blowhards like most who post in the BBS. Since the number of BBS members is only a small fraction of the player base, your argument falls through the floor, you have absolutely no idea what they think. Your 2:1 ratio is in no way a benchmark for those in the "do not judge others on their playing style" and those windbags who "want everyone to play their way" crowds. Not everyone who reads these threads post in them. Everything is nothing more than each persons personal perspective. Own your opinion, but stop before assuming your opinion is shared by anyone else, because you surely do not own mine. It really is funny if you look at which sides rhetoric includes calling others names and putting them down when most on the "other" side are not even really disagreeing with them, only pointing out how ridiculous they are. Sometimes kids think it's okay to be cruel online and that this is the social norm in online communities. Bullying involves a power play: trying to make someone else feel weak and helpless, while inflating the bullies own value. It is truly disturbing that adults act in this manner. Their lives must be in a shambles if they need to over compensate like this. It is funny how mad the bullies get when others start calling them names and picking on them for some perceived fault. Why do so many threads end in name calling and no tolerance of different point of views? It is shameful.
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excuse me but I believe that skill can be measured by the amount of win you get
A fight's purpose is to decide who wins it, and it takes more than pretty ACM to win it.
take that bnz ki84 from earlier, trying to kill it at all cost is skill, ki84's have a weakness in a nose down fight. Giving up and accepting defeat because the nmy is a timid bnzer is just weak, if you're that skilled you should be able to exploit the choice of tactic.
I find skill in AH is a lot about being adapted, being able to switch from tnb to bnz in a blink, from offensive to defensive, to read what the opponent is thinking. Skill is not only engine control and pop them flaps.
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Yes I've thought this might be a possible option as well. The idea that a player wants to emerse themselves in a real war scenario. But what happens here is so unlike the real war. I still think this would be time bound. Do it for a while, then move on to something else. I wouldn't begrudge a person doing this for a tour or a week or a day to have the experince, but they should realize they aren't adding to gameplay experience for others, and should not make it a perminent style of play. :salute
'Real war scenario' is not precisely how they're looking at it though. What is going on around them doesn't have to be anything like the real war. I've known and flown with a couple guys who flew like this quite a bit moreso than me. I'll never forget one guy I knew calling out a bandit 'on the deck', I looked at my altimeter and did some quick math... this bandit on the deck was at 10k feet give or take. ;) We still ride him about that comment years later.
The basic idea is, survival is paramount. You stack the deck against them, giving them as few possible avenues to retaliate as possible. Most of the time, this is done with alt and a fast moving aircraft. Occasionally with numbers, but most of the guys I've flown with weren't that keen on the gangbang unless a singleton dove into the middle of us. Doubleteaming a singleton with wing tactics was a whole different matter.
That's the 'realism' they're talking about. Doing everything in your power to give them as little chance to get you as possible, as though your life depended on it. I fly on the more aggressive end of the conservative spectrum. I'll go in after people in a crowd if I think I can get away with it.
I generally assume my opponents are trying to do the same to me as well. I expect the ack run, I expect the run to friends. I expect the guy with alt on me to come get me.
The way I look at it, never expecting a fair fight makes whatever they throw at me feel somewhat fair, if that makes some kind of sense?
Wiley.
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take that bnz ki84 from earlier, trying to kill it at all cost is skill, ki84's have a weakness in a nose down fight. Giving up and accepting defeat because the nmy is a timid bnzer is just weak, if you're that skilled you should be able to exploit the choice of tactic.
Exuse me, sir, ki84 vs mossie, are you kidding, right?
And nope, the nippon guys have no skill in my book.
Flying your planes ability is being effective. Pulling the impossible, beating the opponent in his own game, now that is is being skilled in my book.
What is skill btw?
-SA is, no doubt. Its natural, noone is expected to turn a Pony with a Spit, nor to fly in a 5v5 like it was an 1v1. Still, there is a difference being skillfully cautious and timid. When its an equal situation and your plane has all the advantages, but you still choose to run... now, thats being timid, in my terms.
-ACM is skill too. Its a straightforward way to decide where is my place amongst the other players.
-also there are other things like gunnery, communicating, planning, reading the map, etc etc, all being a part of being "skilled"
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Anyone else notice that the only people defending the timid are the ones who are timid?
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Anyone else notice that the only people defending the timid are the ones who are timid?
Noticing this is a skill.
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there is a difference being skillfully cautious and timid. When its an equal situation and your plane has all the advantages, but you still choose to run... now, thats being timid, in my terms.
Right you are. At least to me. But some would call skillful caution to be timid. I remember several months ago being in an 1A on my way to a base take with some of my squaddies involved. I found a lone F4F coming in to try and save his base. I made BandZ passes. Took a piece or two. Green guys comes in. Doesn't ping the guy I don't think, but he was engaging. I make one last pass, take his wing and F4F falls to the earth. I immediately get a PM about how I was too scared to engage him and I should go back to the TA. :rolleyes: I wasn't trying to be a puss. I was trying to fly my plane smartly and kill the other guy. Made sense to me, but apparently not everyone.
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Anyone else notice that the only people defending the timid are the ones who are timid?
The irony here being that the last time we fought, you were in a PonyD, you ran from Tazz and I to your friends, and then you got butthurt when I came back and waxed you while you were fighting Tazz =(
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So much ballyho on the definition of what skill is.
Skill noun
The ability to use one's knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance.
ack-ack
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Anyone else notice that the only people defending the timid are the ones who are timid?
No, but I noticed you didn't really read anything that doesn't support the theme of this thread.
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Anyone else notice that the only people defending the timid are the ones who are timid?
BS. Pull your head out.
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I immediately get a PM about how I was too scared to engage him and I should go back to the TA. :rolleyes: I wasn't trying to be a puss. I was trying to fly my plane smartly and kill the other guy. Made sense to me, but apparently not everyone.
Every second an enemy plane fighter is over town puts the troops and troop carriers in jeopardy.
Many base takes, I watch a single c205 strafe down every single troop and M3/LVT while 13 green planes circulate above.
If you're involved in a base take.......take the base.
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So much ballyho on the definition of what skill is.
Skil noun
The ability to use one's knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance.
ack-ack
No one asked for your brand of logic, you timid alt monkey! ;)
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Timid is what timid does... :aok
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Anyone else notice that the only people defending the timid are the ones who are timid?
No, they're actually not timid for the most part - they aren't timid about letting the real timid players clear their 6 or 12, they aren't timid about clearing that player's 6 or 12 either, they aren't timid about getting into the fight or dyeing while the real timid players wait on the edge for opportunity or takeoff running home at the first sign of loosing the advantage. They like the timid players, they become friends with the timid players, they encourage the timid players - why? Because they have a successful give and take relationship.
The frustration/heat/trolling comes in when they think they can compete with most in a 1v1 scenario, that they are the best in that regard. They also avoid loosing situations that the majority do not - if you avoid the fights you're loosing or going to loose, and are thus only engaging in fights you have the advantages with and are winning.
While a timid player can be a very logical player, and maybe even a talented fighter stick, he is still timid and likely for more than one reason avoids an uphill battle.
If you're thinking of who I'm thinking of SQUAT, why not just rub the salt in the wound that this individual learned/hid/knocked-off-his-training-wheeles under a different name(s) than the one he's using now, and one we used to be familiar with being much less logical or skilled. I know why people change styles and tactics, but I still fall short on comprehending why some people put so much value on a name and its name/reputation/legacy that they must contemplate the logic behind a purge and abandoning their old ones. I find that scars and tarnish is what gives one character.
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The irony here being that the last time we fought, you were in a PonyD, you ran from Tazz and I to your friends, and then you got butthurt when I came back and waxed you while you were fighting Tazz =(
How is that irony? I didn't fight 2 v 1 i n a pony d. but as you said you came back as i was fighting Tazz. So either you got shot down or you ran. and when it was 1v1 i was fighting. So were is the irony?
No, but I noticed you didn't really read anything that doesn't support the theme of this thread.
Yes i started a thread asking who are the most timid players in AH. And nothing i have said has anything to do with being timid. :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch:
BS. Pull your head out.
LMAO someone is butthurt. Run along no FLS. I'm sure thats what your good at. Running :salute
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Like any other multiplayer game (that vasts swathes of this community have never played, or at least not in recent memory - which is fine) there are ways to play certain classes.
Snipers aren't "timid" because they don't get right up in an assaultman's shotgun range... on the contrary, the ones that do are quickly shot in the face with said shotgun.
In THOSE games, instead of coming to the forum and attempting to disparage said "timid" snipers, one either grabs a sniper rifle, or sneaks up and knifes the crap out of them (which is far more awesome).
If you are tired of someone running from you, get in something faster or play smarter, etc... people want their happy meal THEIR way, right now, and when they don't get it they throw a fit on 200.
It's old.
Enjoy the entire plane set. Enjoy Aces High.
Just to clarify, I spend zero time complaing about such things on 200. Huge distraction from the action. The discussion belongs here. (of course whining on squad channel is different thing al together. ;))
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Just to clarify, I spend zero time complaing about such things on 200. Huge distraction from the action. The discussion belongs here. (of course whining on squad channel is different thing al together. ;))
I can honestly say I have never seen Vink complain about such things on 200. Absolute truth.
Now, on range, that's an entirely different story!!! You know instantly if Vinky is hitting what he's shooting at....guaranteeeeeeeed!
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I'm the most timid, I still am yet to accuse a single guy by name. :banana:
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No because there are infinite ways an opponent can fight you if you break it down to a matter of maths, geometry and physics. But it is an ambition one can aspire to indefinitely.
This goal isn't facilitated by the company of timid players.
I don't like elitism in this game, I find it is like a cancer that slowly sucks the life out of the arena. It is the diversity that keeps me entertained and keeps the arena alive. Elitism is in fact the plateau that halts progress, nothing else.
What diversity?
excuse me but I believe that skill can be measured by the amount of win you get
A fight's purpose is to decide who wins it, and it takes more than pretty ACM to win it.
take that bnz ki84 from earlier, trying to kill it at all cost is skill,
Rather simplistic view. You don't think that securing advantages before you engage requires less skill when you actually do? If the Dewoitine D.520 was included in AH would you fly it?
ki84's have a weakness in a nose down fight.
Thank you Nuke, can I PM you later to get some more Ki-84 tips?
Giving up and accepting defeat because the nmy is a timid bnzer is just weak, if you're that skilled you should be able to exploit the choice of tactic.
Giving up? I only gave up when one wing went bye bye and I found I was unable to get the nose back up by working the throttle on my one remaining engine.
Skill is not only engine control and pop them flaps.
Yes because that's all I do. Sigh.
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I'm the most timid, I still am yet to accuse a single guy by name. :banana:
Not true. You accused me of a HO, posted it on Youtube to make me famous. Now I'm famous. See what accusing people on 200 can do for them?
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I called no one names.
You did here...
Your logic is as fallacious as your statistical analysis is wrong.
and here...
...the majority of players are all vociferous blowhards like most who post in the BBS.
and here...
and those windbags who..
I'd keep going, but you ge the point.
As for your lack of belief in statistical sampling, Polsters can predict who is going to win the presidency by sampling one tenth of one percent of the electorate. In an election, voter turn out is never 100% it's closer to 60% My quick 26 people servey is one half of one percent, or 5 times that which is required to acurately predict the winner of the presidential race. Hence the evidence would suggest it is enough to gauge the opinion of the larger AH community more acurately that your opinion is. But I'm not here to attack you so I'd like to move back to the discussion....
In social environments where interaction among participants is required, Rules and law can't cover everything. Social norms develop. (holding doors open for women, eating with mouth closed, not farting in confined spaced, brushing your teeth, cutting your grass and taking care of your house, shovelling your sidewalk when it snows, not blasting your stereo so your neighbors have to listen to it.) Social feedback is how you know you're doing it wrong. bullying is when it's done out of personal defect by the bully. When it's thecommunity, with mojority concensus say, "Hey can you get your act together." In this thread some are trying to vet which if this "timid" behavior, warrants social feedback. I believe it has an impact on those that listen to how they play. I have found that what I have learned on the BBS has helped my gameplay and how I see and respect the community.
If your point is that I am all of those things you need to re-examine my posts, and don't take your anger at some "bullys" out on me. I am in a different place on this.
Thank you. :salute
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I can honestly say I have never seen Vink complain about such things on 200. Absolute truth.
Now, on range, that's an entirely different story!!! You know instantly if Vinky is hitting what he's shooting at....guaranteeeeeeeed!
I know. such a bad habit. I don't want to push the button, It just happens! lol :salute
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I know. such a bad habit. I don't want to push the button, It just happens! lol :salute
I personally have no issue with it...I'm fairly certain you've heard me on range, lmao!!
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This goal isn't facilitated by the company of timid players.
Yes it is, because when I learn to defeat someone who is trying with every ounce of their ability to simply not die and they have the best plane available to attempt it with it is far more of an achievement for me than killing someone who rushes head long into certain suicide without a care.
What diversity?
The diversity of players. You never know what you're going to get. If everyone flew the same way or by the same code of conduct it would be a piteously boring experience for me.
edit: Also you seem to have missquoted me in the second half of your post. I don't know who did say those things but they certainly were not me. :cheers:
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Apologies, cut and paste errors, fixed.
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Yes it is, because when I learn to defeat someone who is trying with every ounce of their ability to simply not die and they have the best plane available to attempt it with it is far more of an achievement for me than killing someone who rushes head long into certain suicide without a care.
This thread is about those that are not trying. The ones that run from an afk plane on autoclimb. The ones that bail at first contact. The ones that will run for sectors and only reverse when you're already out of fuel.
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This thread is a back handed way of calling most of you wimps, which many of you are.... now that it has been setteled.. you're still wimps... carry on wimps! :aok :D
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Wimps
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Wimps
As Juggler would say.. "some play to not lose".... AKA... ^^^
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I'm sorry gentlemen....I must apologize for my brothers language and lack of social grace. We are trying very hard with them.
Thanks for your patience.....wimps.
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Apologies are for timid wimps.
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<--- lacks social grace... :rofl
wimps!
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<--- lacks social grace... :rofl
wimps!
Leave the thumb suckers alone. They are butthurt and can't make a beer fart in a whirlwind.
Freakin wimps
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Leave the thumb suckers alone. They are butthurt and can't make a beer fart in a whirlwind.
Freakin wimps
Its part of my marketing strategy.... anyone want to by a pacifier to suck on while you play AH?
(http://pacifierbgone.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/pacifier.jpg?w=233&h=300)
If you call now you can get it for only 1 monthly installment of $9.99..
just call 1-800-wimp
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Its part of my marketing strategy.... anyone want to by a pacifier to suck on while you play AH?
(http://pacifierbgone.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/pacifier.jpg?w=233&h=300)
None of them can afford it. They blew their money on a crib that was big enough to hold their rudder pedals
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Iraqvet has my vote for the most timid. Runs to ack over and over again then brags when a wirb shots you down :x After he called help help bad guys are on me bad guys are on me :lol
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None of them can afford it. They blew their money on a crib that was big enough to hold their rudder pedals
broke wimps? :rofl
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This thread is about those that are not trying. The ones that run from an afk plane on autoclimb. The ones that bail at first contact. The ones that will run for sectors and only reverse when you're already out of fuel.
I understand that man, I understand that it annoys a lot of players also. For me, I play the game because I like the fantasy that I am a fighter pilot in WWII. That's what attracted me to the game and above all other motives for me continuing to subscribe it is what keeps me here. Yes, I like down and dirty dogfights that have no relation to real life engagements. But I also like encountering someone who is terrified of being killed and runs half a mile when they see me. I also take a perverse pleasure in the fact that just my opening defencive move has watermelon them up so badly that they don't even want to be in the same sector as me.
People wanting to stay alive is the epitome of realism for me in the main arena. Likewise, encountering someone reckless and hellbent on destroying me no matter what else happens is also highly realistic. It takes all types to make a great game like aces high just as it took all types to join the air force and do this stuff for real back in the day. Encountering only one mindset in the arena would destroy my fantasy world.
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broke wimps? :rofl
Yep!
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac300/Changeup1/baby-man1_532_1475643a_zpse3fb0547.jpg)
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Encountering only one mindset in the arena would destroy my fantasy world.
Mother... effing... this ^.
I like the fact that you never know what you're gonna get.
Wiley.
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The first person that does something I don't like tonight is gonna get a helluva rant on this board tomorrow! :old:
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Wimps
Get with the times, pansies!
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Get with the times, pansies!
didn't know you can say that here... cool.. pansy!
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They are butthurt and can't make a beer fart in a whirlwind.
If I catch anyone farting anywhere near my Westland Whirlwind then they shall incur my full displeasure. :mad:
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If I catch anyone farting anywhere near my Westland Whirlwind then they shall incur my full displeasure. :mad:
Sorry...an ALE FART in a whirlwind
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Wimp, pansy, weakling, girlyman, worm, maggot, tardling, tardlet, dimwit, twit, hippopotamus, hippopotami...
Just gotta try, man.
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Ahhhhhhhh shuddap your all limp wrist nancy's and Squat you need to change your game Id to Timmy.... that is all :old:
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Wimp, pansy, weakling, girlyman, worm, maggot, tardling, tardlet, dimwit, twit, hippopotamus, hippopotami...
Just gotta try, man.
nublets trying to reinvent the wheel... :rolleyes:
"castrati"
tyvm.
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nublets trying to reinvent the wheel... :rolleyes:
"castrati"
tyvm.
:rofl
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Kamurogi is the most timid. There I said it.
Either he pick, gangs or gets the proxy off ack.
His idea of a reversal is running to ack and re-engaging once the enemy breaks off. He has never finished a fight without being limp wristed.
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Kamurogi is the most timid. There I said it.
See Latrobe's film about the SA. And guess who was that c205...
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This thread is a back handed way of calling most of you wimps, which many of you are.... now that it has been setteled.. you're still wimps... carry on wimps! :aok :D
:aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
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<Stands>....Thats me...........<Grabs trophy off table>....I'll take that thank you!!! <waves> yall enjoy your beers.....
<Leaves room snickering at his first AH trophy>
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This post had such potential, and then a bunch of old Muppet has-beens come in an ruin it.
Reprehensible.
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This post had such potential, and then a bunch of old Muppet has-beens come in an ruin it.
Reprehensible.
You're new enough to not know they never had been to begin with. :old: :noid
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You're new enough to not know they never had been to begin with. :old: :noid
Man, I gotta quit throwin those softballs out there!
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You're new enough to not know they never had been to begin with. :old: :noid
Shane sounds bitter.....lol.
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Shane sounds bitter.....lol.
nooo, I love moo-pets... they account for a "substantial" number of my kills. :banana:
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Shane = Midway
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Shane = Midway
So you're admitting moo-pets have been pwnd? By Midway or me? Who? :noid
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Squat you need to change your game Id to Timmy....
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
(http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv126/joven13/animated%20gifs/TimmyV.gif)
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Lol Way true dat :rofl
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lol love the cheating accusation from TKO in your sig Snailman ;D
that guy is a real piece of work
You too can have one of those :bolt:
Quote from: nrshida on January 29, 2013, 01:42:32 PM
I would go further Dr. Changeup and say that it is a manifestation of an increasingly results-focused and egotistical Western culture announcing primarily as an insecure symptomatic mismatch betwixt words and deeds, the newly installed 'Kill Club' section of our forum being a prime example of the value of presentation over content.
It's not the 'score' as such, it's how 'products of the above culture' interpret their defeats in this Virtual Environment.
Quote VuduVee: hmmmm, this feels like an insult
I got that feeling too
Especially since I concurred with this: Quote Nrshida: I don't believe there was an implication that the MA should be duels only. Rather that more fighting and less running makes for more, well, fighting dancing banana
Of course if people want to run that's up to them, as I watch them go I often think to myself: yup that guy doesn't want to fight. After I break off and he comes back, I think: he definitely wants kills though. Hehe!
My favorite part:
Quote Ardy123
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Quote from: Tom5572 on January 28, 2013, 11:07:58 PM
More timid than you outta here dancing banana
Oh yeah?!! I challenge you to a run away!
We'll merge, maybe ho, then keep flying straight until we are out of Icon range!
:x but I wonder if I can make it through the remaining 8 pages
Does leave me with one question though, lately I've taken a liking to resorting to dragging a 1st merge HO'er through the ack for a pass or two, kind of like my own little version of returning the favor since I refuse to HO in almost all circumstances; does that make me timid?
:salute
ps: I know I need to learn to multiquote
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So you're admitting moo-pets have been pwnd? By Midway or me? Who? :noid
No distractions. Midway has pwned you. Midway has pwned no Muppet....ever. You sound bitter...lol
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LMAO, haven't been on the forums for a few weeks and 1st thing I see is this thread. All the usual suspects and so damn predictable.
1st thing I notice is Chalenge (who btw isn't) spouting his drool and then posts a GV kill? Comical isn't even close to the word I would use to describe that post.
Then when challenged to an actual fight disappears from the thread entirely. Debrody -->> :ahand <<--Chalenge
My personal Top 3 list would be.
Chalenge
Rocky
Dredlock
There are many more but they pale in comparison to these 3 characters. :bhead
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nooo, I love moo-pets... they account for a "substantial" number of my kills. :banana:
hmmm...what happened when we went to DA...your LA against my KI? :O
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another thread gone to chest thumping :)
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another thread gone to chest thumping :)
well we know you wouldn't thump your chest as it would hurt your tender breasts.
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LMAO, haven't been on the forums for a few weeks and 1st thing I see is this thread. All the usual suspects and so damn predictable.
1st thing I notice is Chalenge (who btw isn't) spouting his drool and then posts a GV kill? Comical isn't even close to the word I would use to describe that post.
Then when challenged to an actual fight disappears from the thread entirely. Debrody -->> :ahand <<--Chalenge
My personal Top 3 list would be.
Chalenge
Rocky
Dredlock
There are many more but they pale in comparison to these 3 characters. :bhead
Now we all know what the 'S' in your name stands for, because smack and excrement are what you're full of there mullet-man.
You're pathetic in life and in game.
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well we know you wouldn't thump your chest as it would hurt your tender breasts.
:huh you must be popular at preschool with that kind of smack.
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:huh you must be popular at preschool with that kind of smack.
For all the potential responses you could have said in a thread about being timid you choose to state the obvious.
Unsurprisingly you thought you were funny, everyone else just saw it as stupid.
Could you also be timid?
Knowing you are unable to say anything witty you resort to stating nothing of value.
You should refrain from posting, if you can't offer any value.
Otherwise you may find yourself the source of many jokes
Understanding that all this talk about being timid may have left your butt hurt, I'll let you try and walk it off... this time...
Thank you for admitting your timid behavior in the best way you could, cheers :cheers:
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yawn, I may be timid but I actually have an active account and shoot pple down, while you're betting your life on a bbs smack talk
I have yet to find your contributions to this thread
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LMAO, haven't been on the forums for a few weeks and 1st thing I see is this thread. All the usual suspects and so damn predictable.
1st thing I notice is Chalenge (who btw isn't) spouting his drool and then posts a GV kill? Comical isn't even close to the word I would use to describe that post.
Then when challenged to an actual fight disappears from the thread entirely. Debrody -->> :ahand <<--Chalenge
My personal Top 3 list would be.
Chalenge
Rocky
Dredlock
There are many more but they pale in comparison to these 3 characters. :bhead
It seams Rocky is winning the " most timid player" award. Followed by chalange. I wonder when others are actually going to list there top 3 4 or 5 nominations
yawn, I may be timid but I actually have an active account and shoot pple down, while you're betting your life on a bbs smack talk
I have yet to find your contributions to this thread
Ummm ardy is active. he bben back for almost a week now :noid
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Rapier
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cc squat its hard to say who is on with all these people too TIMID to use their original name :)
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cc squat its hard to say who is on with all these people too TIMID to use their original name :)
You use your BBS name in the MA's :noid :noid :noid
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Now we all know what the 'S' in your name stands for, because smack and excrement are what you're full of there mullet-man.
You're pathetic in life and in game.
hey lemming, nice insult attempt, look into the mirror and see who is pathetic :aok
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hey lemming, nice insult attempt, look into the mirror and see who is pathetic :aok
Wah! I can't beat Chalenge in the game so I'll take a stab at him on the BBS. Cry baby!
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Wah! I can't beat Chalenge in the game so I'll take a stab at him on the BBS. Cry baby!
Come, duel me, if you dare, then brag about this :aok
another insult attempt have been recorded by the way
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You use your BBS name in the MA's :noid :noid :noid
Long story short I used noir only a couple monthes. I'm tempted to get back to it, or get a new bbs account...its not very important anyway
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Come, duel me, if you dare, then brag about this :aok
another insult attempt have been recorded by the way
Debrody I dont waste my time with anyone in the DA. Never have. You, among all the other offers, have nothing worth showing.
I have film of an encounter with SHawk online. He got caught with his pants down trying to punk a base for score points. When he realized how fast he was going to get into trouble he runs, which is immediately. He then proceeds to shoot the water. The water! This I know is something that is taught in the DA. I see Muppets dumping ammo at every launch. Now SHawk does it.
None of you have anything worth knowing. Really.
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I see Muppets dumping ammo at every launch.
:huh :headscratch::rofl
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I can't count the times I've flown along side the Muppets during takeoff, going to the fight and during the fight. And not once..not once have I ever seen any of them dump ammo. That's just not true.
And this includes fighting with and against them in the DA as well.
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Well, you claim to be the big boy in AH.
So i claim to be Dave Mustaine. And the US president.
Its the same story, you cant prove it, i cant prove it. Walk along, homeboy.
P.S., isnt Manawar your shade, by any chance? You two sound quite simmilar. "yall suck, i rock, welcome to the kill club" :lol
P.S. 2 show us that film, please, we might have the same good laugh as on your tiger2 concrete sit screenshots before :aok
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No distractions. Midway has pwned you. Midway has pwned no Muppet....ever. You sound bitter...lol
moo-pets are some of the funner fights around, but they're also fun to poke with sharp pointy objects - or blast with 20mm hollowpoints - nothing left but hair and air :neener:
it's almost pavlovian at times... :ahand
don't let those pity kills i gave midtangwhoua fool you like they're fooling him. :noid :rofl :banana: :neener: :bolt:
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I'm sad.....I reached the end of this thread, and I'm not done with breakfast yet
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Iraqvet has my vote for the most timid. Runs to ack over and over again then brags when a wirb shots you down :x After he called help help bad guys are on me bad guys are on me :lol
:rofl Yeah What he said.....Hands Surfinn another beer.....Dont fall of the wagon
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We have all these threads about the best fighter and acm and what not. so i have decided to ask the question. Who are the most timid players in AH? off the top of my head my list goes as follows but not in any kind of order and only from what i have seen with my own eyes. it's a short list but it's only the start :devil
Pand
Rocky
Pjk
Marlin1
What SQUATS whine thread really meant to say.......Players that wont play as "SQUAT Wants Them Too". or another "Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song"
Bout right up there with his logic to complain that I dropped his Tiger 2 with 1000lbs at TT.....Dont up it if you not for possibility you MIGHT loose it.....ie soon as you do go postal about how unfair it was other player got better of you.
I kill Tanks via GV and Via 1000lbs and I make no excuses, and I get bombed/killed all the time one thing you wont see me doing is berating/crying too them for doing it, its part of the game and what makes it fun for me.
I think as soon as the realization is reached that people will in fact do all that they can to survive....."schocking" I know, and do everything they can to kill you. The more enjoyable the game will become for a lot of people.
There are a 101 ways to die in MA....if you prefer a more controlled enviroment play SIMS or something. Or of you prefer more of the 1vs1 go to the DA becuse you seldom gonna find it in MA. :cheers:
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I see Muppets dumping ammo at every launch.
i think that scorpion sting is affecting your ability to discern fantasy from reality. perhaps some prolonged high-altitude therapy will help......imagine the fuel you'll save!
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Maybe they do what I do in selecting maximum ord for every plane at every launch and then drop what is not needed.
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perhaps some prolonged high-altitude therapy will help......imagine the fuel you'll save!
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Fugi Toon
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Fugi Toon
Lol.
Most timid.... hmmm.....
quite honestly I dont know who I could call timid. I dont really pay attention to the ones that run from the fight. If they want to tuck their junk between their legs, dive and run home because they lost advantage they can go, I'm not going to dive with them and follow them all the while draining my E state because they don't know how to fly defensive.
I guess If I HAD to call one person out for being timid it would be Rapier. I have never once seen Rapier at a lower altitude than any other aircraft in an engagement. If one gets close, he's gone. Maybe that's just my observation but with the statistics he has it would make sense that it's the norm.
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I see Muppets dumping ammo at every launch.
None of you have anything worth knowing. Really.
How funny. Lets test Mr Worth Knowing's real fears....pick a plane, I'll go full fuel load and you can go .25% in the DA. My bet? Crickets. So THAT retarded excuse is handled.
The rest of your Babbling bullsh11 is the scream of the meek and testicularly chalenged
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Maybe I am in the minority, but when I stopped worrying about my score my ability to have fun in the game was no longer dependent upon:
1. Climbing to 15-20k before I entered any engagement
2. Staying away from heavily outnumbered situations
3. Whether or not I was currently doing "well" as the barometer for whether or not I was having fun.
Now, I fly whatever I want, I reverse back into certain death to see if I can take one or two of the seven chasing me with me (almost ALWAYS nets at least one maneuver kill as they fall over each other trying to get you first) and a lot less time flying back to land my meager kills.
This is not to say that score chasing is bad, that climbing out and flying in formation is bad, that doing everything you can to survive is bad... I've just discovered that it is not my cup of tea.
It's an FSO-level dose of awesome to fly with the guys from the 4th FG, wingman tactics, tactical coms (until I start drinking :uhoh) and yeah, they fly fast planes fast and at the edge... they don't "pick and run", but their collective efforts certainly net them more kills than deaths. And it's fun to fly with them (as they are gracious enough to let me tag along, from time to time). Not having that focus, I'll never be as good as them at what they do, just like I will never be as good at dog fighting as someone who flies in the DA 24/7. But to disparage either playing style is intellectually dishonest. I watch Pand kick the piss out of Squat constantly... different planes, different situations... and Squat's answer is to try to call him out on 200 or the BBS because he still hasn't figured out how to reverse a diving pony =(
"But 80!," You say... "Your score has always been trash!"... I will neither deny that fact, nor the fact that addiction is easier to kick before it becomes firmly entrenched.
And, interestingly enough, before I started flying the K4 (which I am... challenged by... to say the least) my "score" was a positive K/D which it very rarely is for any length of time. And that's flying planes that can't outrun everything else in the game.
So, thanks Ink for starting me on this path... and specifically sc0tch, RedBull, and Krupnski for working with my mildly-retarded bellybutton to figure out this whole "Aye See Em" thing or whatever you call this sorcery... and a huge thanks to Pand for teaching me 95% of what I know about the game... it takes all kinds to make Aces what it is. The wimps are the ones who start trash on the forum because they got their ego bruised in game.
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hmmm dumping ammo... if it's agreed to dump ammo I dump ammo, if it's not agreed I don't... it wouldn't matter to me if someone else dumps ammo and doesn't tell me though... I don't depend on the fractional difference in weight of my plane to kill the other fella, I depend on acm and gunnery... Isn't Challenge the one who was complaining about F3 mode in the DA also? Like F3 is going to help someone... :rofl wait... :rofl
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You know, its we suckingm because we cant fly without F3 mode :lol
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Maybe I am in the minority, but when I stopped worrying about my score my ability to have fun in the game was no longer dependent upon:
1. Climbing to 15-20k before I entered any engagement
2. Staying away from heavily outnumbered situations
3. Whether or not I was currently doing "well" as the barometer for whether or not I was having fun.
Now, I fly whatever I want, I reverse back into certain death to see if I can take one or two of the seven chasing me with me (almost ALWAYS nets at least one maneuver kill as they fall over each other trying to get you first) and a lot less time flying back to land my meager kills.
This is not to say that score chasing is bad, that climbing out and flying in formation is bad, that doing everything you can to survive is bad... I've just discovered that it is not my cup of tea.
It's an FSO-level dose of awesome to fly with the guys from the 4th FG, wingman tactics, tactical coms (until I start drinking :uhoh) and yeah, they fly fast planes fast and at the edge... they don't "pick and run", but their collective efforts certainly net them more kills than deaths. And it's fun to fly with them (as they are gracious enough to let me tag along, from time to time). Not having that focus, I'll never be as good as them at what they do, just like I will never be as good at dog fighting as someone who flies in the DA 24/7. But to disparage either playing style is intellectually dishonest. I watch Pand kick the piss out of Squat constantly... different planes, different situations... and Squat's answer is to try to call him out on 200 or the BBS because he still hasn't figured out how to reverse a diving pony =(
"But 80!," You say... "Your score has always been trash!"... I will neither deny that fact, nor the fact that addiction is easier to kick before it becomes firmly entrenched.
And, interestingly enough, before I started flying the K4 (which I am... challenged by... to say the least) my "score" was a positive K/D which it very rarely is for any length of time. And that's flying planes that can't outrun everything else in the game.
So, thanks Ink for starting me on this path... and specifically sc0tch, RedBull, and Krupnski for working with my mildly-retarded bellybutton to figure out this whole "Aye See Em" thing or whatever you call this sorcery... and a huge thanks to Pand for teaching me 95% of what I know about the game... it takes all kinds to make Aces what it is. The wimps are the ones who start trash on the forum because they got their ego bruised in game.
I would like to buy you a drink, sir. :cheers:
I also invite you to DA with me in K4's. I bet I can unload poorly aimed taters and auger before you do! :neener:
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I would like to buy you a drink, sir. :cheers:
I also invite you to DA with me in K4's. I bet I can unload poorly aimed taters and auger before you do! :neener:
Only if the next round is on me!
And as far as the quality of tater loading/unloading... coupled with my ability to put K4's and Ki-84's into the ground at stall speed... I think augering first is a challenge I can actually accept!
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Debrody I dont waste my time with anyone in the DA. Never have. You, among all the other offers, have nothing worth showing.
I have film of an encounter with SHawk online. He got caught with his pants down trying to punk a base for score points. When he realized how fast he was going to get into trouble he runs, which is immediately. He then proceeds to shoot the water. The water! This I know is something that is taught in the DA. I see Muppets dumping ammo at every launch. Now SHawk does it.
None of you have anything worth knowing. Really.
I know 90% of the people who have posted on this thread could own you co alt 1v1. I know i can. And i shawk can. If you don't think so then step up or shut up. :salute
What SQUATS whine thread really meant to say.......Players that wont play as "SQUAT Wants Them Too". or another "Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song"
Bout right up there with his logic to complain that I dropped his Tiger 2 with 1000lbs at TT.....Dont up it if you not for possibility you MIGHT loose it.....ie soon as you do go postal about how unfair it was other player got better of you.
I kill Tanks via GV and Via 1000lbs and I make no excuses, and I get bombed/killed all the time one thing you wont see me doing is berating/crying too them for doing it, its part of the game and what makes it fun for me.
I think as soon as the realization is reached that people will in fact do all that they can to survive....."schocking" I know, and do everything they can to kill you. The more enjoyable the game will become for a lot of people.
There are a 101 ways to die in MA....if you prefer a more controlled enviroment play SIMS or something. Or of you prefer more of the 1vs1 go to the DA becuse you seldom gonna find it in MA. :cheers:
Asking the community who they think the most timid player on AH is a whine now? hmmm. Are you angry your on that list or something? Please troll else were. Yawwwwnnnnnn :salute
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Maybe I am in the minority, but when I stopped worrying about my score my ability to have fun in the game was no longer dependent upon:
1. Climbing to 15-20k before I entered any engagement
2. Staying away from heavily outnumbered situations
3. Whether or not I was currently doing "well" as the barometer for whether or not I was having fun.
Now, I fly whatever I want, I reverse back into certain death to see if I can take one or two of the seven chasing me with me (almost ALWAYS nets at least one maneuver kill as they fall over each other trying to get you first) and a lot less time flying back to land my meager kills.
This is not to say that score chasing is bad, that climbing out and flying in formation is bad, that doing everything you can to survive is bad... I've just discovered that it is not my cup of tea.
It's an FSO-level dose of awesome to fly with the guys from the 4th FG, wingman tactics, tactical coms (until I start drinking :uhoh) and yeah, they fly fast planes fast and at the edge... they don't "pick and run", but their collective efforts certainly net them more kills than deaths. And it's fun to fly with them (as they are gracious enough to let me tag along, from time to time). Not having that focus, I'll never be as good as them at what they do, just like I will never be as good at dog fighting as someone who flies in the DA 24/7. But to disparage either playing style is intellectually dishonest. I watch Pand kick the piss out of Squat constantly... different planes, different situations... and Squat's answer is to try to call him out on 200 or the BBS because he still hasn't figured out how to reverse a diving pony =(
"But 80!," You say... "Your score has always been trash!"... I will neither deny that fact, nor the fact that addiction is easier to kick before it becomes firmly entrenched.
And, interestingly enough, before I started flying the K4 (which I am... challenged by... to say the least) my "score" was a positive K/D which it very rarely is for any length of time. And that's flying planes that can't outrun everything else in the game.
So, thanks Ink for starting me on this path... and specifically sc0tch, RedBull, and Krupnski for working with my mildly-retarded bellybutton to figure out this whole "Aye See Em" thing or whatever you call this sorcery... and a huge thanks to Pand for teaching me 95% of what I know about the game... it takes all kinds to make Aces what it is. The wimps are the ones who start trash on the forum because they got their ego bruised in game.
:aok
:salute
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Fugi Toon
hahahah :rofl
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chalenge the tardlette proves once again he is a liar :aok
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chalenge the tardlette proves once again he is a liar :aok
Don't worry he will fly his f16 over your house that he got from the CIA... oh wait that was voss..... :cheers:
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Don't worry he will fly his f16 over your house that he got from the CIA... oh wait that was voss..... :cheers:
:rofl
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chalenge the tardlette proves once again he is a liar :aok
:lol
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I just hope he isn't packing a swishblayd...
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I just hope he isn't packing a swishblayd...
No,i think he is stydying law.He told me HTC was going to sue me for mixing the sound files.Got to do something up there at 25 k,learning law is a good goal.
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No,i think he is stydying law.He told me HTC was going to sue me for mixing the sound files.Got to do something up there at 25 k,learning law is a good goal.
:aok
Maybe he's multi-tasking up there....
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Maybe he's multi-tasking up there....
(http://www.theaveragegamer.com/wp-content/Screenshots/Phoenix%20Wright/Justice%20For%20All/Phoenix%20Wright%20Justice%20For%20All%20Packshot.jpg)
:lol
O! if i can be the dude with the frilly tablecloth on his neck..I'm so in!
:x
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nooo, I love moo-pets... they account for a "substantial" number of my kills. :banana:
You seem like a cool guy, Shane... so Ima do you a solid... you meet me in the DA, and you'll finally be able to say you beat a Muppet 1v1!
I'm like the Make-a-Wish foundation.
No need to thank me.
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You seem like a cool guy, Shane... so Ima do you a solid... you meet me in the DA, and you'll finally be able to say you beat a Muppet 1v1!
I'm like the Make-a-Wish foundation.
No need to thank me.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Shane have beaten one muppet before - and that was me.
Was fun, was close enough, but he won.
:salute
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Shane have beaten one muppet before - and that was me.
Was fun, was close enough, but he won.
:salute
Way to gut the Make-A-Wish Foundation before it even gets off the ground.
I sure hope you're happy.
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awesome :rofl
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:rofl :rofl
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So you're admitting moo-pets have been pwnd? By Midway or me? Who? :noid
:lol
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hmmm dumping ammo... if it's agreed to dump ammo I dump ammo, if it's not agreed I don't... it wouldn't matter to me if someone else dumps ammo and doesn't tell me though... I don't depend on the fractional difference in weight of my plane to kill the other fella, I depend on acm and gunnery... Isn't Challenge the one who was complaining about F3 mode in the DA also? Like F3 is going to help someone... :rofl wait... :rofl
That was me complaining about F3 in the DA. I think you're wrong about it not making a difference. I think it can make a huge difference.
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That was me complaining about F3 in the DA. I think you're wrong about it not making a difference. I think it can make a huge difference.
Maybe for you, Sir.
You are right, it makes a huge difference. My ACM totally collapses in F3 mode. Seriously! Been there, tryed that back in the day.
So, no reason for the paranoia ;)
:salute
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I'm not say anyone can just hope in and be good at F3 mode. It takes practice like anything else. But how can it not be an advantage when you have no restricted views what so ever. I used to play Nascar and other racing games on Playstation back in the day, and when I went from F3 mode to inside the car it was 10 times more difficult. Why wouldn't the same apply to this game?
But I don't want to highjack this thread any further....I'm enjoying the topic at hand :D We'll debate this at another time. :salute
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You seem like a cool guy, Shane... so Ima do you a solid... you meet me in the DA, and you'll finally be able to say you beat a Muppet 1v1!
I'm like the Make-a-Wish foundation.
No need to thank me.
I'm too timid to even enter *any* of the arenas these days. :uhoh
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I'm too timid to even enter *any* of the arenas these days. :uhoh
Oh come on, even you can diddle around in the arenas some. You seem like a diddler.
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I'm too timid to even enter *any* of the arenas these days. :uhoh
Thats not all he 'diddles'.... :D
clearly no balls to back the smack talk and rejoin! :D
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Thats not all he 'diddles'.... :D
clearly no balls to back the smack talk and rejoin! :D
They're so heavy, they've been left dragging miles behind. Gimme some time to winch them back up front.
edit: And not only do I generally gangnam syle elevatorthrust moo-pets in my lala, I as often as not get in their own ride and horsey hop them. :neener:
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They're so heavy, they've been left dragging miles behind. Gimme some time to winch them back up front.
edit: And not only do I generally gangnam syle elevatorthrust moo-pets in my lala, I as often as not get in their own ride and horsey hop them. :neener:
sure whatever paul ballyon, and I bet monkeys fly out your arse too, ehh? :D
diddler! :rofl
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sure whatever paul ballyon, and I bet monkeys fly out your arse too, ehh? :D
diddler! :rofl
someone has to harvest the dingleberries that the anklehumpers have been striving to obtain. there was this one, who, got the merest whiff and thought he had achieved acm nirvana. the overhwelming knowledge and experience contained within those reeking molecules (mostly comprised of decaying moo-pet pelts that I use to clear my 6 with, somewhat obviously ineffectively) that has caused his head to implode as he considers his ways in relative silence.
:aok
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someone has to harvest the dingleberries that the anklehumpers have been striving to obtain. there was this one, who, got the merest whiff and thought he had achieved acm nirvana. the overhwelming knowledge and experience contained within those reeking molecules (mostly comprised of decaying moo-pet pelts that I use to clear my 6 with, somewhat obviously ineffectively) that has caused his head to implode as he considers his ways in relative silence.
:aok
All I got out of that is your too much of a 'wimp' to rejoin and you fantasize about pulling puppets out of your rear....(your 6 o'clock)
diddler! diddling both sides? :D
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How funny. Lets test Mr Worth Knowing's real fears....pick a plane, I'll go full fuel load and you can go .25% in the DA. My bet? Crickets. So THAT retarded excuse is handled.
The rest of your Babbling bullsh11 is the scream of the meek and testicularly chalenged
you rang?
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I see Muppets dumping ammo at every launch. Now SHawk does it.
None of you have anything worth knowing. Really.
That's just an odd character flaw you've got there.
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They're so heavy, they've been left dragging miles behind. Gimme some time to winch them back up front.
edit: And not only do I generally gangnam syle elevatorthrust moo-pets in my lala, I as often as not get in their own ride and horsey hop them. :neener:
Careful there Shane.. you'll start sounding like Flyin'fin the keyboard warrior.. :devil
or perhaps you're talking about 'other' muppets 8)
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Careful there Shane.. you'll start sounding like Flyin'fin the keyboard warrior.. :devil
or perhaps you're talking about 'other' muppets 8)
Don't take Fin lightly, he knows what he's talking about...
He even figured out that I am grizz's shade 8( Hell, even I didn't know this...Luckily Fin informed me, though.
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Don't take Fin lightly, he knows what he's talking about...
He even figured out that I am grizz's shade 8( Hell, even I didn't know this...Luckily Fin informed me, though.
well Grizz was Fester b4 that... lmao :noid
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Don't take Fin lightly, he knows what he's talking about...
He even figured out that I am grizz's shade 8( Hell, even I didn't know this...Luckily Fin informed me, though.
:noid
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He even figured out that I am grizz's shade 8( Hell, even I didn't know this...Luckily Fin informed me, though.
You must be doing something very well then :rofl
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Debrody I dont waste my time with anyone in the DA. Never have. You, among all the other offers, have nothing worth showing.
I have film of an encounter with SHawk online. He got caught with his pants down trying to punk a base for score points. When he realized how fast he was going to get into trouble he runs, which is immediately. He then proceeds to shoot the water. The water! This I know is something that is taught in the DA. I see Muppets dumping ammo at every launch. Now SHawk does it.
None of you have anything worth knowing. Really.
NOW you've gone and done it!
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NOW you've gone and done it!
Shooting the water is something we are taught in the DA bj.....geez everyone knows that! :headscratch:
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We need a poll....
How many of you think Chalenge punches himself in the face about 3 mins after he types absurdity on the BBS? He's GOT to know how uberstupid it sounds
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From a purely logical pov, a hundred pounds on a 10,000 plane makes little difference.....other than making your hit % go way down
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Now we all know what the 'S' in your name stands for, because smack and excrement are what you're full of there mullet-man.
You're pathetic in life and in game.
The Muppets dump ammo? What does decreasing your Hit %, have to do with flying timid? At least the Muppets will fight.
I can assure that you haven't a clue of what you speak MetaTron. I know exactly how you and your ilk fly, as do all of us (Lyric is the lone exception, as he doesn't mind getting his hands dirty and I applaud him for it). Call out fields in the MA and I will accept, although we all know what answer will be given. Scott wasn't talking smack, he is telling the truth. There is a huge difference. As far as being pathetic in life, you have the market cornered in that aspect, BAR NONE. The only one talking smack, is yourself. "I won't DA you, because I know I don't stand a chance."
As someone who has gone out of his way on Family Vacations to catch dinner with Scott, I can assure you that he is far from "pathetic". However, maybe your squaddie Lyric (who I have met a few times in Dayton) could show you finer points of social graces? Lyric is both a gentleman and an excellent folding chair breaker who is poles apart from your insecurities. What pisses you off is the mere fact that you were mentioned and most deserving. :aok
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Fugi Toon
Thank God for Fugi. :cheers:
Chalenge gets my vote.
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they are talking about in a duel in the DA and it does give a slight edge in some planes
I don't have a viewpoint on it particularly, just clarifying for those who dont understand
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I'm not say anyone can just hope in and be good at F3 mode. It takes practice like anything else. But how can it not be an advantage when you have no restricted views what so ever. I used to play Nascar and other racing games on Playstation back in the day, and when I went from F3 mode to inside the car it was 10 times more difficult. Why wouldn't the same apply to this game? :salute
I agree, used with skill it is like having an invisable cockpit, very simple to see where your bandit went without rolling your wings. not to mention they can't saddle up on your low six from below without being seen... they should pull f3 mode completely for fighters in any arena...
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if anyone thinks I dump ammo before a fight...you are an idiot :aok
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if anyone thinks I dump ammo before a fight...you are an idiot :aok
:uhoh :D
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if anyone thinks I dump ammo before a fight...you are an idiot :aok
WHAT??? You mean loser-boy knoweth not what he speaketh???
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*singing* I was country,,when countryyyy wasn't coollllll.......oh wait,,still not cool......*hides back under hanger.....nevermind
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I agree, used with skill it is like having an invisable cockpit, very simple to see where your bandit went without rolling your wings. not to mention they can't saddle up on your low six from below without being seen... they should pull f3 mode completely for fighters in any arena...
I would encourage all that I duel to jump in F3 mode, dump their ammo, whatever they feel is comfortable for them... but to say that someone is better because of F3 mode I would completely disagree... they are only going to be as good as their fluid counters, and that will never change. :aok
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I would encourage all that I duel to jump in F3 mode, dump their ammo, whatever they feel is comfortable for them... but to say that someone is better because of F3 mode I would completely disagree... they are only going to be as good as their fluid counters, and that will never change. :aok
You're right to a point, but it's not just a matter of skill, it's also a matter of seeing what you otherwise can't.
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A chog in f3 mode can use those cannons like a garden hose to find their aim. It can definitely be an advantage...
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I would encourage all that I duel to jump in F3 mode, dump their ammo, whatever they feel is comfortable for them... but to say that someone is better because of F3 mode I would completely disagree... they are only going to be as good as their fluid counters, and that will never change. :aok
180 degree, unimpeded view, using guns like a water hose, using the entire plane as a pipper...sorry my brother, its all the advantage some needs that can't get advantage any other way.
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A chog in f3 mode can use those cannons like a garden hose to find their aim. It can definitely be an advantage...
How you gonna spray them cannons like a garden hose if you dumped most of em when you lifted? :D
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How you gonna spray them cannons like a garden hose if you dumped most of em when you lifted? :D
:D
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chalenge the tardlette proves once again he is a liar :aok
I've learned not to waste too much effort or concern over anything unChalenging says.... you'd be better off trying to win an argument with a rock(apologies in advance to SkyRock).
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6974743296/h237C52E0/)
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I've learned not to waste too much effort or concern over anything unChalenging says.... you'd be better off trying to win an argument with a rock(apologies in advance to SkyRock).
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6974743296/h237C52E0/)
:rofl :rofl
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I've learned not to waste too much effort or concern over anything unChalenging says.... you'd be better off trying to win an argument with a rock(apologies in advance to SkyRock).
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6974743296/h237C52E0/)
:rofl
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25 pages....has anyone even dueled Chalenge yet?
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25 pages....has anyone even dueled Chalenge yet?
seeings how he is the king of timid I dont see it happening :aok
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I wish someone would duel me. :(
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I wish someone would duel me. :(
im game, you busy right now?
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im game, you busy right now?
Laying in bed, so yes. :D
Tomorrow? 10-noon EST and 5-8 ish. I ask for duels almost everyday on 200, I get a reply maybe 2 out of 10 times. Neeeeedddd mooooaaaarrr duuuueeeelllleeerssss
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I believe I deserve a spot in this thread :old:
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Laying in bed, so yes. :D
Tomorrow? 10-noon EST and 5-8 ish. I ask for duels almost everyday on 200, I get a reply maybe 2 out of 10 times. Neeeeedddd mooooaaaarrr duuuueeeelllleeerssss
lol im pretty deep on this bacardi, i might not be even close to consciousness at such an early hour.....
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How you gonna spray them cannons like a garden hose if you dumped most of em when you lifted? :D
By using this dot command!
.AoMcheatreloadammo
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haha so i have a new name for the list. 00seven. he claims he didn't want to dive in and gang me for the assist. here is the film. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
http://www.mediafire.com/?iiec7401ttfhrle (http://www.mediafire.com/?iiec7401ttfhrle)
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haha so i have a new name for the list. 00seven. he claims he didn't want to dive in and gang me for the assist. here is the film. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
http://www.mediafire.com/?iiec7401ttfhrle (http://www.mediafire.com/?iiec7401ttfhrle)
Hush timmy
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haha so i have a new name for the list. 00seven. he claims he didn't want to dive in and gang me for the assist. here is the film. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
http://www.mediafire.com/?iiec7401ttfhrle (http://www.mediafire.com/?iiec7401ttfhrle)
This person was asked to the DA by Mr Changeup, Mr Scotch, Mr Skyrock, Mr Jetsom, Mr Irishone, and Mr Google. He claimed probably victory without participation. He had lots of reasons not to go. I find this person to be of the testicularly challenged folks :angel:
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haha so i have a new name for the list. 00seven. he claims he didn't want to dive in and gang me for the assist. here is the film. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
http://www.mediafire.com/?iiec7401ttfhrle (http://www.mediafire.com/?iiec7401ttfhrle)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0
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This person was asked to the DA by Mr Changeup, Mr Scotch, Mr Skyrock, Mr Jetsom, Mr Irishone, and Mr Google. He claimed probably victory without participation. He had lots of reasons not to go. I find this person to be of the testicularly challenged folks :angel:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Why would you chase a plane you can't catch? Why would you chase a plane into enemy controlled space then complain about being double teamed. Why complain at all. If this is hurting your enjoyment of the game dont do it. Seems simple to me, but you would rather call people out and insult them rather than practicing some simple self control.
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Ravage, im afraid, you totally missed it. :aok
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Why would you chase a plane you can't catch? Why would you chase a plane into enemy controlled space then complain about being double teamed. Why complain at all. If this is hurting your enjoyment of the game dont do it. Seems simple to me, but you would rather call people out and insult them rather than practicing some simple self control.
Because we'd rather be dead and cool.....than alive and uncool.
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Because we'd rather be dead and cool.....than alive and uncool.
:lol :aok
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Because we'd rather be dead and cool.....than alive and uncool.
word.
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Because we'd rather be dead and cool.....than alive and uncool.
:rofl :rofl :aok
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Why would you chase a plane you can't catch?
A better question is: Why chase a plane you can't (or don't want to give up the E for) catch, get on 200 and talk trash, and then decline a DA invite?
The best answer I got was basically, "because I'd rather type than fly my airplane. It gets boring circling 8k above a furball for an hour".
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Rapier
Rocky
Kamurogi
Messiah
in that order! :aok
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A better question is: Why be chased by a plane that can't catch you (or don't want to fight because your fighter score will be FAIL) , get on 200 and talk trash, and then decline a DA invite?
The best answer I got was basically, "because I'd rather type than fly my airplane. It gets boring circling 8k above a furball for an hour".
Fixed
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As soon as you break off chasing some of these tards they will sneak their way back into trying to pick you again. They waste my time whether I chase them or not.
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Because we'd rather be dead and cool.....than alive and uncool.
+1 :rofl
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A better question is: Why chase a plane you can't (or don't want to give up the E for) catch, get on 200 and talk trash, and then decline a DA invite?
The best answer I got was basically, "because I'd rather type than fly my airplane. It gets boring circling 8k above a furball for an hour".
Pfft bomber pilot.. :P
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Pfft bomber pilot.. :P
Is that what's wrong with me? :uhoh
I'll work hard to fix this. :old:
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Bah you have a mental block or something, when someone runs and you cant catch them stop chasing them its as simple as that all this chest thumping and name calling is stupid if you ask me. How bout starting a list of whiney horses behinds.
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You have an extraordinary talent, Sir.
Thats one thing you cant get it for the first time, but after like 10 people trying to explain...
Yes, its us having a mental block :aok
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'The most whiney' thread potential right there
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Bah you have a mental block or something, when someone runs and you cant catch them stop chasing them its as simple as that all this chest thumping and name calling is stupid if you ask me. How bout starting a list of whiney horses behinds.
The point is "running" instead of "fighting". It doesn't have anything to do with "chasing".
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CryRock, I have never ran from you. I do, however, recall "picking" your C-hog that was vulching in the horde on that last Greebo map. And I do recall your F4U at 20k that kept trying to drag me to your puffy. I also remeber fighting your pony on the previous map too. Fight lasted quite a while until some greenies jumped in and you dove for ack. Not blaming you for diving to the ack, completely understandable. I know it was you because I got an assist. You don't like that I fly my jug in at 15k? Fine. You don't like that I generally refuse to up from capped fields? That's fine too. But as far as running? From you? Lol. :lol
But if there is one thing I am certain of as I am certain the sun rises in the East, it is that you cry and cry and cry on 200. Jesus Christ you like to complain. Please forward future moaning in the following format...
(http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/4578617.png)
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CryRock, I have never ran from you. I do, however, recall "picking" your C-hog that was vulching in the horde on that last Greebo map. And I do recall your F4U at 20k that kept trying to drag me to your puffy. I also remeber fighting your pony on the previous map too. Fight lasted quite a while until some greenies jumped in and you dove for ack. Not blaming you for diving to the ack, completely understandable. I know it was you because I got an assist. You don't like that I fly my jug in at 15k? Fine. You don't like that I generally refuse to up from capped fields? That's fine too. But as far as running? From you? Lol. :lol
But if there is one thing I am certain of as I am certain the sun rises in the East, it is that you cry and cry and cry on 200. Jesus Christ you like to complain. Please forward future moaning in the following format...
(http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/4578617.png)
Rock only whines on 200 when he's out of people to kill. Just keep feeding him, and it will subside, I promise.
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Shouldn't the internet version of that form be in PDF so you can fill it out and submit without printing and scanning?
C'mon now. Get with it.
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:huh :huh :huh :huh This thread is dumb.....but we can look at my avatar for a while! :x :x :banana: :banana: :x :x :banana: :banana: :x :x :banana: :banana: :x :x
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CryRock, I have never ran from you. I do, however, recall "picking" your C-hog that was vulching in the horde on that last Greebo map. And I do recall your F4U at 20k that kept trying to drag me to your puffy. I also remeber fighting your pony on the previous map too. Fight lasted quite a while until some greenies jumped in and you dove for ack. Not blaming you for diving to the ack, completely understandable. I know it was you because I got an assist. You don't like that I fly my jug in at 15k? Fine. You don't like that I generally refuse to up from capped fields? That's fine too. But as far as running? From you? Lol. :lol
But if there is one thing I am certain of as I am certain the sun rises in the East, it is that you cry and cry and cry on 200. Jesus Christ you like to complain. Please forward future moaning in the following format...
(http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/4578617.png)
I suggest a fun-filled DA session at multiple alts. Smack-talk will turn to reality from one or the other and if its a tie over an hours-worth of fighting, mutual respect will ensue. Anything else is just cute verbal masturbation which doesn't fall into any category of fun.
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I didn't see cryrock complain when he piled up on a fight converting a 2V1 into a 3V1 against me
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I didn't see cryrock complain when he piled up on a fight converting a 2V1 into a 3V1 against me
i didnt see you cry about skyrock when you jmped into my fun 1v1 i was just about to lose :neener:
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i didnt see you cry about skyrock when you jmped into my fun 1v1 i was just about to lose :neener:
:headscratch: me pleasure debrody, I made sure you were really about to loose before killing the guy (yeah right)
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Hehe, no problem at all. Its just... funny :lol
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haha so i have a new name for the list. 00seven. he claims he didn't want to dive in and gang me for the assist. here is the film. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
http://www.mediafire.com/?iiec7401ttfhrle (http://www.mediafire.com/?iiec7401ttfhrle)
wow, that 00seven will pull some sorry crap and lie through his teeth about it. funny how he waited till there were other people there, THEN he decides to get brave. and the other guys, who seen a 3 v1 already and still thought to themselves, hey i better shtcan all my alt and energy and go down there and help those 3,4,5 guys!! gosh, he may kill all those guys and get away and take our base. i dont see how any of em get any kind of satisfaction out of this kind of weakness.
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CryRock, I have never ran from you. I do, however, recall "picking" your C-hog that was vulching in the horde on that last Greebo map. And I do recall your F4U at 20k that kept trying to drag me to your puffy. I also remeber fighting your pony on the previous map too. Fight lasted quite a while until some greenies jumped in and you dove for ack. Not blaming you for diving to the ack, completely understandable. I know it was you because I got an assist. You don't like that I fly my jug in at 15k? Fine. You don't like that I generally refuse to up from capped fields? That's fine too. But as far as running? From you? Lol. :lol
But if there is one thing I am certain of as I am certain the sun rises in the East, it is that you cry and cry and cry on 200. Jesus Christ you like to complain. Please forward future moaning in the following format...
(http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/4578617.png)
You must've had a lot of time to write all that while climbing back up to 30k after your latest pick and run.
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CryRock, I have never ran from you. I do, however, recall "picking" your C-hog that was vulching in the horde on that last Greebo map. And I do recall your F4U at 20k that kept trying to drag me to your puffy. I also remeber fighting your pony on the previous map too. Fight lasted quite a while until some greenies jumped in and you dove for ack. Not blaming you for diving to the ack, completely understandable. I know it was you because I got an assist. You don't like that I fly my jug in at 15k? Fine. You don't like that I generally refuse to up from capped fields? That's fine too. But as far as running? From you? Lol. :lol
But if there is one thing I am certain of as I am certain the sun rises in the East, it is that you cry and cry and cry on 200. Jesus Christ you like to complain. Please forward future moaning in the following format...
(http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/4578617.png)
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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You must've had a lot of time to write all that while climbing back up to 30k after your latest pick and run.
(http://www.stabilitees.com/store/image/cache/data/Designs/who-is-your-daddy-1990591387-180x180.jpg)
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You must've had a lot of time to write all that while climbing back up to 30k after your latest pick and run.
Oh Puhhhleeze Mr. Ta152 constantly looking for the knit Mjug that reverses your bounce and kills you with relative consistency. You do better in the 109.
I think I still have that film where I asked you to call off the gang so we could 1v1. You didn't. I ended up killin you and two of your greens anyways. On my laptop now, I'll look for it later.
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You're picking a fight you can't win. :)
We can 1v1 in the DA. Anytime.
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wow, that 00seven will pull some sorry crap and lie through his teeth about it. funny how he waited till there were other people there, THEN he decides to get brave. and the other guys, who seen a 3 v1 already and still thought to themselves, hey i better shtcan all my alt and energy and go down there and help those 3,4,5 guys!! gosh, he may kill all those guys and get away and take our base. i dont see how any of em get any kind of satisfaction out of this kind of weakness.
There once was a player named acolito that wallowed in a pervasive level of suckiness that no man could hope to find his way out of. One day while sitting in his wingless plane as it plunged from the skies after being smacked around, he had an epiphany. He realized it was the name that was causing his plight and if he changed it, he would be super awesome and one of the "AH Elite". This is how 00Seven came into being.
The moral of this tale folks is if you want to improve your flying and fighting skills, just changing your name is not the way to do it.
ack-ack
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Messiah rolling in for his next pick. Oink!
(http://www.barewalls.com/i/f/s5wmy100094s_1_1_1____30.0_24.0_615893_Artists-concept-of-a-space-shuttle-entering-Earth-orbit.jpg)
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See ya at 5:30 central. Thats in just under an hour.
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See ya at 5:30 central. Thats in just under an hour.
If you're starting your climb now, be sure to take enough fuel to last until 5:31pm central. First flight of the day, it might take me a whole minute to kill you.
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You're picking a fight you can't win. :)
We can 1v1 in the DA. Anytime.
I demand film! Damn nightschool. :furious
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There once was a player named acolito that wallowed in a pervasive level of suckiness that no man could hope to find his way out of. One day while sitting in his wingless plane as it plunged from the skies after being smacked around, he had an epiphany. He realized it was the name that was causing his plight and if he changed it, he would be super awesome and one of the "AH Elite". This is how 00Seven came into being.
The moral of this tale folks is if you want to improve your flying and fighting skills, just changing your name is not the way to do it.
ack-ack
I wondered where acolito went. He was pwnage. The name change thingy has always been a curious phenomenon to me, lol. I'm waiting for the player that changes theirs to HERCULES!! HERCALEES, HERCALEES, HERCALEES!!!!!!!!!!!
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CryRock,
Do I think you know how to fight? yes... but it is very obvious, that lil fighter score thingy is in your mind by the way you approach fighting in the MA... and it makes you look timid... by your choices of engagement...
Now, talking about getting butt hurt? obviously this hurts your butt to make the list, or you wouldn't have come in here and misled these folks about the Greebo map encounter... if you don't like being called timid, then don't play timid. At least when you know I'm in the area, up in attack mode so you can fight with some balls without bothering your fighter score...
do it for me messy... I want you to be a fighter not only on the score page, but in action! :aok
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Redbull used to be vANTHONY! :rofl
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I was MegaDave.
I was a real coward.
:bhead
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Redbull used to be vANTHONY! :rofl
just when I thought this thread couldn't get any better!
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Redbull used to be vANTHONY! :rofl
And still would rape you in a 1v1 :rofl
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And still would rape you in a 1v1 :rofl
We fight quite a bit when I'm in the game. Funny I haven't seen you. Your mommy ground you from the computer?
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O_O
:bolt:
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Redbull also has a good attitude and knows I'm joking around about the v thing. He has my respect.
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Redbull also has a good attitude and knows I'm joking around about the v thing. He has my respect.
You told me Redbull wears a Girl Scout uniform
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It might be a brownie scout uniform. I dunno, ask Spek.
Good fights btw Messiah. :salute
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Brownie scout Mon. thru Fri. , Girl scout on the weekends only.
:salute
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Phooey
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This thread took a turn for the bizarre :banana:
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We fight quite a bit when I'm in the game. Funny I haven't seen you. Your mommy ground you from the computer?
You caught me! Im in college/Tech School. So busy busy busy.
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This thread took a turn for the bizarre :banana:
The tigers don't lose sleep over the opinions of the sheep. :aok
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Sorry :cheers:
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The tigers don't lose sleep over the opinions of the sheep. :aok
Indeed, but now I know RedBull wears some questionable fashions.... :uhoh
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Indeed, but now I know RedBull wears some questionable fashions.... :uhoh
True, true, true.....cookies?
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No clue why anybody in the late war main arena would want to go to the dueling arena to settle something started in the late war main arena.
The fuel burn being 1.0 guarantees a 110 can climb to 30,000 feet on 25% fuel and have minutes to loiter or a spit XIV can fly from one end of the map to the other and almost all the way back on 50% fuel.
Airplane fuel loadout is just as important a choice as anything else and the dueling arena removes this important facet.
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No clue why anybody in the late war main arena would want to go to the dueling arena to settle something started in the late war main arena.
I would have no idea why anyone would climb a 110 to 30k if called to the DA to fight.
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No clue why anybody in the late war main arena would want to go to the dueling arena to settle something started in the late war main arena.
The fuel burn being 1.0 guarantees a 110 can climb to 30,000 feet on 25% fuel and have minutes to loiter or a spit XIV can fly from one end of the map to the other and almost all the way back on 50% fuel.
Airplane fuel loadout is just as important a choice as anything else and the dueling arena removes this important facet.
Where to start... how about the word "duel"?
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No clue why anybody in the late war main arena would want to go to the dueling arena to settle something started in the late war main arena.
The fuel burn being 1.0 guarantees a 110 can climb to 30,000 feet on 25% fuel and have minutes to loiter or a spit XIV can fly from one end of the map to the other and almost all the way back on 50% fuel.
Airplane fuel loadout is just as important a choice as anything else and the dueling arena removes this important facet.
:bhead I think somehow the point has been missed :uhoh
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No clue why anybody in the late war main arena would want to go to the dueling arena to settle something started in the late war main arena.
The fuel burn being 1.0 guarantees a 110 can climb to 30,000 feet on 25% fuel and have minutes to loiter or a spit XIV can fly from one end of the map to the other and almost all the way back on 50% fuel.
Airplane fuel loadout is just as important a choice as anything else and the dueling arena removes this important facet.
Someone doesn't know that the fields are short in the DA. Someone doesn't know those things, including gun packages, are agreed to upfront. Someone hasnt ever actually 1 v 1'd in the DA apparently. Someone should seek to understand, before they wish to be understood.
You stand corrected.
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Taking away fuel management removes one facet of air combat and is a further departure from realism.
I understand the need for 1.0 fuel burn in the training arena but it just encourages people flying around with very little fuel for long periods in the DA.
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Taking away fuel management removes one facet of air combat and is a further departure from realism.
I understand the need for 1.0 fuel burn in the training arena but it just encourages people flying around with very little fuel for long periods in the DA.
This is a non-issue in the DA because everyone does it. Advantage mitigated. Next subject
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Taking away fuel management removes one facet of air combat and is a further departure from realism.
I understand the need for 1.0 fuel burn in the training arena but it just encourages people flying around with very little fuel for long periods in the DA.
It's about having an equal fight.
ack-ack
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I'm trying to dicipher what Icepac is saying....
Are you saying that certaij aircraft versus others at the same percentage of fuel load can equate ro different weights?
Forgive spelling errors, sent this from my DROID.
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DA someone if you want to talk smack, if you win, great. If you lose, shut up and move on. If you don't want to DA, then just shut up in the first place. If you don't want to "DA" because you're afraid of F3 abuse or whatever stupid reason you can come up with, then agree to a fight in a secluded spot in the MA. If you can't even do either one, then please, next time you talk smack, smack yourself first.
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DA someone if you want to talk smack, if you win, great. If you lose, shut up and move on. If you don't want to DA, then just shut up in the first place. If you don't want to "DA" because you're afraid of F3 abuse or whatever stupid reason you can come up with, then agree to a fight in a secluded spot in the MA. If you can't even do either one, then please, next time you talk smack, smack yourself first.
How does dueling earn the right to act like an idiot? How does "dueling" in a video game earn the right to act like a moron?
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How does dueling earn the right to act like an idiot? How does "dueling" in a video game earn the right to act like a moron?
If you act like a moron, you are a moron. If you duel to settle whatever dispute and shake hands, good for you. I'm going to go ahead and guess you're one of those people who talk smack then refuses to duel.
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If you act like a moron, you are a moron. If you duel to settle whatever dispute and shake hands, good for you. I'm going to go ahead and guess you're one of those people who talk smack then refuses to duel.
If I am talking smack to you I most likely don't like you. Why would I want to go spend time 1 on 1 with someone I do not like?
The dueling to settle arguments over 200 makes no sense.
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If you duel to settle whatever dispute and shake hands, good for you.
How does dueling settle a dispute? How does the situation change by dueling?
I'm going to go ahead and guess you're one of those people who talk smack then refuses to duel.
Could you tell me how you arrived to your assumption? Because it's possible that I don't agree with you?
I consider what is usually referred as "talking smack" to be exactly the same as "acting like a moron". Something totally different to good natured banter. I don't "talk smack". I will sometimes respond if someone starts to whine after I shot them down, usually by telling them why they got shot down.
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well a duel can settle who's the best...at dueling
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If I am talking smack to you I most likely don't like you. Why would I want to go spend time 1 on 1 with someone I do not like?
The dueling to settle arguments over 200 makes no sense.
To settle the differences...or are you going to act like a donkey just because its the easier thing to do? Bunch of people I've met on AH came from settling disputes, going into the DA, then becoming friends. I just had a case like this not even two weeks ago, with MountyX.
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well a duel can settle who's the best...at dueling
I knew it!!! :bhead
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well a duel can settle who's the best...at dueling
Yeh, and the crap that flies in here (in this BBS and this very thread) and in the MA often involves more.
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To settle the differences...or are you going to act like a donkey just because its the easier thing to do?
How does it settle the difference?
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i like turtles
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dueling can only settle arguments like one guy says "wow you suck you need those 12 friendlies to kill me" guy responds "ehh would have happened if it was 1vs1" the response would be "DA" and then they go to DA and find out if that guy needed his 12 friends......
if someone is acting like a moron it does not matter How he plays or what he can do in the DA....he is still a moron. :aok
also DA is great for practice for the MA.... great for learning the ins and outs of dogfighting...or BnZing.....or ganging if you want :rofl
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somebody get INK outa here he`s makin sense
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If I am talking smack to you I most likely don't like you. Why would I want to go spend time 1 on 1 with someone I do not like?
The dueling to settle arguments over 200 makes no sense.
I want to kick the pizz out of people I don't like and I'm willing to spend all night beating their arse because that isnt a waste of my time. The question is why don't you?
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I want to kick the pizz out of people I don't like and I'm willing to spend all night beating their arse because that isnt a waste of my time. The question is why don't you?
I just don't see it as worth my time. I have gone into the DA after someone called me out and have won as well as lost. I felt no better or worse after each.
It changed nothing so why bother?
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somebody get INK outa here he`s makin sense
sometimes I do that :D
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I just don't see it as worth my time. I have gone into the DA after someone called me out and have won as well as lost. I felt no better or worse after each.
It changed nothing so why bother?
I've gone to the DA after being called out and after calling someone out and won or lost but almost every time no matter how contentious the pre-DA exchanges we've walked away friends.
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I've gone to the DA after being called out and after calling someone out and won or lost but almost every time no matter how contentious the pre-DA exchanges we've walked away friends.
It's how I met over half of my squaddies! :aok
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How does dueling settle a dispute? How does the situation change by dueling?
well, looking into the mirror... a good duel could always cheer me up and take away the heat from the "conversation"
I have no idea, how it works, i dont even want to get it. But it works, for sure.
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How does dueling settle a dispute? How does the situation change by dueling?
Could you tell me how you arrived to your assumption? Because it's possible that I don't agree with you?
I consider what is usually referred as "talking smack" to be exactly the same as "acting like a moron". Something totally different to good natured banter. I don't "talk smack". I will sometimes respond if someone starts to whine after I shot them down, usually by telling them why they got shot down.
1. Don't you fly around in a brew and swear it's not easy mode???????????
2. When i was new a squady explained it the best by saying " The DA is like the playground of AH. It's as close to a 1v1 fist fight you can get on AH and serves the same purpose. What ever that purpose is "
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1. Don't you fly around in a brew and swear it's not easy mode???????????
How does what I fly have to do with my post you quoted? What is your point?
2. When i was new a squady explained it the best by saying " The DA is like the playground of AH. It's as close to a 1v1 fist fight you can get on AH and serves the same purpose. What ever that purpose is "
Welp, that goes a long way in explaining your current attitudes.
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1. Don't you fly around in a brew and swear it's not easy mode???????????
I wonder why no one complains about the Zeke in the same way they do about the Brewster? Shouldn't a well flown late war fighter be more than a match for a well flown Brewster? I would suggest that WMaker is pretty damned sharp in most planes, and is lethal in the Brewster simply because he's a good stick and fights his own fight. :old:
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How does what I fly have to do with my post you quoted? What is your point?
I dont like the way you fly. You think you are a "big boy" or some uber expert of your plane, me - not so much. Im angry at you, call you to the DA, where you whoop my arse in the ride of a common choice, then i admit that youre better. Everyone can walk away happily.
And yea, you used to say that the brewster is not easy mode... well, sure. Any ways, it takes some uber expert ACMs to come from above and copy the opponents moves... :neener:
There is a reason i challenged you to the DA a couple weeks back, you know. :old:
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You think you are a "big boy" or some uber expert of your plane, me - not so much.
You were joking here like in your next sentence, right?
Im angry at you, call you to the DA, where you whoop my arse in the ride of a common choice, then i admit that youre better. Everyone can walk away happily.
If you don't like the way I fly and are angry to me because of that, why would you be any happier with the way I fly after I would shoot you down in the DA? I do realize you weren't entirely serious here but thought I'd ask anyway.
And yea, you used to say that the brewster is not easy mode... well, sure. Any ways, it takes some uber expert ACMs to come from above and copy the opponents moves... :neener:
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Yes, the first paragraph was just an example. But your flying is not for my taste - my personal social problem though :lol
Anyway, you think you could really beat me in the DA? Not trying to sound too much cocky or anything, but you must be really outta practice flying the "only-the-SA" plane...
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I dont like the way you fly. You think you are a "big boy" or some uber expert of your plane, me - not so much. Im angry at you, call you to the DA, where you whoop my arse in the ride of a common choice, then i admit that youre better. Everyone can walk away happily.
And yea, you used to say that the brewster is not easy mode... well, sure. Any ways, it takes some uber expert ACMs to come from above and copy the opponents moves... :neener:
There is a reason i challenged you to the DA a couple weeks back, you know. :old:
For an uber easymode plane Brewster sure gets a little flight time from players. Why do you figure that is?
Perhaps you mean it's easymode in that it turns well but not so easy to survive when faster opponents are b&z:ing you.
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You didn't answer my question below:
If you don't like the way I fly and are angry to me because of that, why would you be any happier with the way I fly after I would shoot you down in the DA? I do realize you weren't entirely serious here but thought I'd ask anyway.
But your flying is not for my taste -
No worries, your attitude, general behavior or your persona isn't for my taste either.
Anyway, you think you could really beat me in the DA? Not trying to sound too much cocky or anything, but you must be really outta practice flying the "only-the-SA" plane...
I don't usually really think or speculate either way if I haven't dueled ever someone or the last time was a long time ago. I usually leave "I will so kick you a** in the DA just watch me!" -comments to this small group half-wit blow hards which are rather vocal here as well. I do consider myself somewhat rusty at the moment. As the general activity of the Finns has gone down over the years, my dueling has become rather non-existent as well. I used to do it a lot more maybe ~five years ago. Also my flying time in general isn't anywhere near where it used to be.
What is "only-the-SA" plane"? Brewster, Dora, something else? What did you mean by your comment? I guess I didn't get it.
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Ripley,
never stated that the Brewster is über. I only said, it requires no real ACM usage to be successful in it - as you said, avoid the situations where you are being BnZed and youre golden.
Maker,
im glad you dont like me - if this means im not like you :aok
I dont know where anyone mentioned the Dora in this thread... im somewhat confused... you wanted to point out that i was flying a pick-n-run plane? Bringing this line one step further, i might only pick and run, only using my SA? Well... let them decide!
:lol
To answer your entirely serious question: if you give me a duel, you give me a fight, ergo, i get what i ever wanted. A fight. Is it that hard to get? ;)
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I dont know where anyone mentioned the Dora in this thread... im somewhat confuse... you wanted to point out that i was flying a pick-n-run plane? Bringing this line one step further, i might only pick and run, only using my SA? Well... let them decide!
Now you are just putting words into my mouth.
You said:
you must be really outta practice flying the "only-the-SA" plane...
...so I wanted to know what you meant by it and which one of the planes I fly you consider to be this mysterious "only-the-SA" plane. I brought Dora up because it's one of the planes I often fly, the other one is a Brewster. Simply put, I wanted to know which one of these is this "only-the-SA" plane and what does this term mean? I didn't say a thing about which planes you fly or don't fly. I'm guessing there's some sort of miss-communication issue here.
EDIT/...or did you mean plane as a mathematical/plane=surface -figure of speech type of way?/EDIT
To answer your entirely serious question: if you give me a duel, you give me a fight, ergo, i get what i ever wanted. A fight. Is it that hard to get? ;)
Fair enough. But like I said, I can't really see the connection between not liking how I fly and what a duel would do to change that.
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I've gone to the DA after being called out and after calling someone out and won or lost but almost every time no matter how contentious the pre-DA exchanges we've walked away friends.
That's pretty much been my experience too. Although I did learn to quit calling folks out (typically occurs after getting shot down) since it generally resulted in a spanking. I now tend to PM after being shot down (if I don't understand why I got kilt) with questions. This is a much better way to learn what I did wrong as it results in way less humble pie and animosity up front but still gets ya the information. If it leads to the DA so much the better....that's where I learned most of what I know about ACM and plane control in AH.
I guess the value of the DA depends on the goals of each individual playing the game. If your in it for the the total war experience....maybe not so much. If your in it for dogfighting then it's a huge benefit in at least two aspects of dogfighting (ACM and plane control).
Zaphod
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dueling can only settle arguments like one guy says "wow you suck you need those 12 friendlies to kill me" guy responds "ehh would have happened if it was 1vs1" the response would be "DA" and then they go to DA and find out if that guy needed his 12 friends......
if someone is acting like a moron it does not matter How he plays or what he can do in the DA....he is still a moron. :aok
also DA is great for practice for the MA.... great for learning the ins and outs of dogfighting...or BnZing.....or ganging if you want :rofl
On a separate note: I learned alot last time we were there but I been off and on ingame since. When do you think you might have time for more of the same in the DA?
*end highjack*
Zaphod
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Wmaker lacks sisu. :old:
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Not sure if it were in the DA or just in the MA but he agreed to an even 1v1 in brews....was a good time....he was wasted lol
:salute
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On a separate note: I learned alot last time we were there but I been off and on ingame since. When do you think you might have time for more of the same in the DA?
*end highjack*
Zaphod
ill be on later today and tonight for sure...FSO at 11 :rock
FSO is a great time you gotta check it out if you dont partake
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in my opinion the brew is almost as easy mode as the K4.....or the 16..... not quite so much..... because no matter what you have to fight till the end, you aint running from anyone....so that makes it a fighting mans plane...if all you are doing in it is ganging and vulching well that is tardly flying and it dont matter what you fly if that is how you fly.....if you are taking on the gang in the brew that is not to be looked down upon and in the same measure if you are taking on the gang in a 16...but a 16 is far better for gang fighting then the brew....
I will never down someone for what he flies and I think it is silly to do so..... every plane in the right hands is "easy" mode
it is HOW someone flies that gets my attention or ire.....
......the reason the zeke doesn't get the attention is because if you throw a rock at it it will catch fire....... :D
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I honestly think the Ki84 is an easy mode plane as well. The only thing it cannot do well is dive lol.
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I honestly think the Ki84 is an easy mode plane as well. The only thing it cannot do well is dive lol.
I agree completely...the KI is one of if not the best fighter ingame :aok
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I agree completely...the KI is one of if not the best fighter ingame :aok
You should fly the 38 dood. Then I'd have one less KI to worry about. :D
:salute
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I honestly think the Ki84 is an easy mode plane as well. The only thing it cannot do well is dive lol.
Once you learn it...I agree 100%. However most KI's that I see in the arena aren't being flown to full potential....could be a pilot choice thing though.
Ink I'll try to get in this evening and PM ya if I see ya. I make most FSOs.....freaking blast.
Zaphod
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I just don't see it as worth my time. I have gone into the DA after someone called me out and have won as well as lost. I felt no better or worse after each.
It changed nothing so why bother?
Because you get better by doing it...and because you can.
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How does what I fly have to do with my post you quoted? What is your point?
Wmaker, Squat, if I may?
Squat is saying that someone that flies a plane that requires very,very little skill shouldn't make statements regarding the purpose of 1 v 1s that's very outcome is to determine who has more skill.
Friends?
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so, i been doin the DA bit the last few days, trying to get good fights and get my chops in. mostly did find good fights and the called valley fights are freakin top of the line fun. you go in thinking everyone there wants to fight fight fight, but thats not always true. im telling you now the DA has some really very timid players. one guy that flies there often in a 190a5, does MA style bnz, miss, get reversed, run to ack and then turn back to fight when you dont follow through the ack, get reversed again, rerun back to ack, rinse repeat. if you can get him away from his base, when you finally do equal the E, he just goes straight for the ho shot, doesnt even try to out fly ya. big time sissy. in my mind, if you think MA timidness is bad, you really are goin to get agged when you see this scaredy cat do it in the DA. being timid in the DA has to take the cake for most timid in the game right?
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For an uber easymode plane Brewster sure gets a little flight time from players. Why do you figure that is?
That question is easier mode than flying the plane: because everyone else is too embarrassed to fly it.
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Wmaker, Squat, if I may?
Squat is saying that someone that flies a plane that requires very,very little skill shouldn't make statements regarding the purpose of 1 v 1s that's very outcome is to determine who has more skill.
Friends?
Excellent summation....of many...MANY arguments going back over a decade :aok
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hamrdwn
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Squat is saying that someone that flies a plane that requires very,very little skill shouldn't make statements regarding the purpose of 1 v 1s that's very outcome is to determine who has more skill.
The whole logic above is rather idiotic.
Couple of points anyway,
As far as Brewster's performance goes (and many other points), you are delusional.
As far as which planes I fly, I first subscribed to AH in Oct. 2000 (1Wmaker1). Brewster was implemented in the summer of 2009. On this tour I've used at least 11 different fighters and on the last complete tour at least 8. The whole claim that all I ever fly is a Brewster is retarded.
Changeup, you are making yourself look extremely stupid.
Debrody, am I gonna get an answer?
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If you really want it, here it is:
was talking about the brewster. Since you are Finnish, its natural that you want to fly your nation's aircraft. Also, youre an oldtimer (at least compared to me, the newbie), i guess, you got tired of some stuff and only want to play your own game. Still, i absolutely cant get what is fun in climbing to 15k, diving down to 1v1s then telling the people why they lost. Because of their SA. Not the ACM, because when a brewster comes with E, he only has to copy his opponents moves, he simply cant lose. Easy mode? On the ACM part, sure, how the friggen hell wouldnt it be?? On the SA part? Not as much, but you just need a couple friendlies around and youre golden.
You can answer that im flying the D9, the exact opposition - true, still, let them decide if i use ACM and/or SA.
Yea, in my book ACM >> SA. The only exception is the FSO.
Have a wonderful day.
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If you really want it, here it is:
was talking about the brewster.
ACM by definition is Air Combat Maneuvering. So according to you no ACM is needed (based on your own "SA-only plane" -comment). So with a Brewster all one needs is gentle general aviation flying with turns not exceeding 30 degree bank angle and all the opposition just falls out of the sky? :lol Well, lets just say this reply of yours explained a lot. :)
Still, i absolutely cant get what is fun in climbing to 15k, diving down to 1v1s then telling the people why they lost.
Nonsense. Could you show me a film where you've spotted me at 15k (not that there's anything wrong in flying at 15k if one chooses to do so, I'm just too impatient for it and most of the time there's no need for it.) when there hasn't been a plane that I would have had to climb up to? I've never engaged you at 15k nor have I come down from 15k to engage you. It's rather clear that either you want to intentionally talk-down my flying or you don't have the faintest clue about it. But the funny thing here is that nobody seems to need any evidence to stamp certain people with a certain stigma. All that is needed is much noise on the BBS and one is a super ace that never runs away and always engages no matter what, no matter the actual truth. ;) With Brewster I usually climb to 7k, with a Dora 7-9k as I'm heading out.
You can answer that im flying the D9, the exact opposition - true, still, let them decide if i use ACM and/or SA.
During the last tours my flying between Brewster and Dora has been roughly 50%/50%. BTW everybody uses both SA and ACM, that's what air combat is.
Amusing reading, I must say.
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:cheers: got me some popcorn, ok so I have been reading this and my wife was standing over my shoulder reading also, she says "why not pick 10 planes in order of the dueling tournament bracket, the first 10, and fight and see who wins?" that way it isnt "my choice ride" vs "my not so choice ride" if you get what I am saying. Just seems to me like its a school yard argument that NOBODY is ever going to win :salute :bolt:
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ACM by definition is Air Combat Maneuvering. So according to you no ACM is needed (based on your own "SA-only plane" -comment). So with a Brewster all one needs is gentle general aviation flying with turns not exceeding 30 degree bank angle and all the opposition just falls out of the sky? :lol Well, lets just say this reply of yours explained a lot. :)
Nonsense. Could you show me a film where you've spotted me at 15k when there hasn't been a plane that I would have had to climb up to? I've never engaged you at 15k nor have I come down from 15k to engage you. It's rather clear that either you want to intentionally talk-down my flying or you don't have the faintest clue about it. But the funny thing here is that nobody seems to need any evidence to stamp certain people with a certain stigma. All that is needed is much noise on the BBS and one is a super ace that never runs away and always engages no matter what, no matter the actual truth. ;) With Brewster I usually climb to 7k, with a Dora 7-9k as I'm heading out.
During the last tours my fighter flying has been roughly 50% Brewster, 50% Dora. BTW everybody uses both SA and ACM, that's what air combat is.
Amusing reading, I must say.
I agree with Wmaker about this post. Much respected opponent and highly skillful player.
All the people who are still trying to force this thread down our throats make me believe they are just naive.
Like I said before, skill in this game is the ability to defeat your opponent(s) no matter how or what they are flying.
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That question is easier mode than flying the plane: because everyone else is too embarrassed to fly it.
Partly true. They're too embarrassed to die in it while trying to fly it.
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The only truly timid players I see. Are the ones that come at you with alt. Dive in. Take one pass then run to their base ack hoping you will follow them into it so they can collect the proxie
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The whole logic above is idiotic because it works perfectly. I just really don't have a defense for it because of how I like to fly in-game
Couple of points anyway,
As far as Brewster's performance goes its delusional.
As far as which planes I fly, I first subscribed to AH in Oct. 2000 (1Wmaker1). Brewster was implemented in the summer of 2009. On this tour I've used at least 11 different fighters and on the last complete tour at least 8. The whole claim that all I ever fly is a Brewster is really not that far from the truth because that's all you guys ever see me fly. I fly the other planes in the DA when no one is around...that's where I work on my "moves"
Changeup, you are making yourself look extremely stupid (because I can't argue with you, I can't really say anything else. I get attacked all the time for the Brewster and I'm butt-hurt about it).
Debrody, am I gonna get an answer that I can actually address or are you going to keep pounding me with truths?
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Partly true. They're too embarrassed to die in it (while flying it in front of other people that know better).
This is now fixed.
Ease of use Family Tree:
Brew<Spit 16<Zeke (actually requires rudder to roll it well)<Spit V....I don't need to go any futher because this is how it is.
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Like I said before, skill in this game is the ability to defeat your opponent(s) no matter how or what they are flying.
If that is your definition of skill then you play right into the other side of the argument.
You can defeat opponents with one set of skills in this game....BnZ. But that doesn't not make one a skillful player. If you think about it Bat, this game truly requires 5 tools to be called a skillful player:
1. SA
2. Aerial Gunnery
3. Angles Fighting
4. E fighting
5. The ability to move fluidly between Angles and E ACM
By your definition, a skillful player can employ only 2 of these skills and defeat his opponent no matter what they are flying. Lots and lots of players are three tool players but they are not skillful....the truly skillful that you and the rest of community recognize have 4 to 5 skills. Poll it if you like, but its the truth.
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It is actually you who can't argue. Otherwise you would have addressed my points. My flying time on other fighters is far greater than my flying time in Brewster. Not that there's anything wrong with flying the Brewster.
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If that is your definition of skill then you play right into the other side of the argument.
You can defeat opponents with one set of skills in this game....BnZ. But that doesn't not make one a skillful player. If you think about it Bat, this game truly requires 5 tools to be called a skillful player:
1. SA
2. Aerial Gunnery
3. Angles Fighting
4. E fighting
5. The ability to move fluidly between Angles and E ACM
By your definition, a skillful player can employ only 2 of these skills and defeat his opponent no matter what they are flying. Lots and lots of players are three tool players but they are not skillful....the truly skillful that you and the rest of community recognize have 4 to 5 skills. Poll it if you like, but its the truth.
I disagree. What you are saying is that one must use a more complex fighting method than is required just to prove 'skill'.
That is similar to using five knots to tie something when only two knots are required for an adequate job.
If your opponent is so simple to defeat that only two of your skills list are required then it is nothing but chauvinism to employ all five skills. Doing this says ' Hey look at all the skills I know about! Am I not skillful?'
Why use more than is required to get the job done? Only use what skills are required and then when on a rare occasion all five skills are required in one fight your 'skill' can be shown to the world for a valid reason.
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Because you get better by doing it...and because you can.
You missed my point. As for getting better eh I can get better dueling people that I respect.
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Well maker, what can i say...
you asked for my opinion. Yet youre twisting my words.
Have fun in your awesomeness and with your über advanced ACM skills.
Have a wonderful day.
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Who is THE biggest "Timid" persona in AH2 ?
I hope you don't Think it's my 10 yr old son Marlon(accnt nme Marlon1) SQUATSQUATCH
Learn to spell(Marlin is a type of phish...i can;t differentiate between U and CMustard/Gunman26
Don't..Do Not call my son "Timid" or face me in th DA....
There's a thread for you Irish blOkes
<salutes>
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BTW..Where did WHO go ?
Who's Missing
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(http://images.persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/jon-stewart-popcorn.gif)
Waits for Squat to show up....
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Quick, someone decipher this dialect of crackhead.
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98% of Jokers Jokers would make it into my 'most timid' list :aok
Including the almight Marlon :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O
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So...
your son was called "timid", even though he is the statue of bravery?
I cant get it...
Btw, RedBull just called you, your son, and your squadron TIMID, now go to the DA with him as you said before :lol
Films please, Red.
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I'm getting IN on this.
Cant wait to see how it turns out.
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HTC should require a breathalyzer test before they let anyone post on the board.
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Like I said before, skill in this game is the ability to defeat your opponent(s) no matter how or what they are flying.
Word.
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Who is THE biggest "Timid" persona in AH2 ?
I hope you don't Think it's my 10 yr old son Marlon(accnt nme Marlon1) SQUATSQUATCH
Learn to spell(Marlin is a type of phish...i can;t differentiate between U and CMustard/Gunman26
Don't..Do Not call my son "Timid" or face me in th DA....
There's a thread for you Irish blOkes
<salutes>
Nice :aok
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Joker's PoleSmokers talkin shizzle up in da hizzle fo reel, beetchez, day-ummmm!
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Gunman26, infamous.
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HTC should require a breathalyzer test before they let anyone post on the board.
Now now..BigR... Some of us can hold our spirits in a bottle pretty well
Cheers. Btw... I know Sirloin is not timid.... That is a fact
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Quick, someone decipher this dialect of crackhead.
<---Puts up the Cryrock Light!
Scotch needs yur expertise :aok :rofl
we need a leg smiley,
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So...
your son was called "timid", even though he is the statue of bravery?
I cant get it...
Btw, RedBull just called you, your son, and your squadron TIMID, now go to the DA with him as you said before :lol
Films please, Red.
98% of Jokers Jokers would make it into my 'most timid' list :aok
Including the almight Marlon :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O
He is 10yrs old .......you 2 fail incredible as usual! :o
Maybe some cute cut and paste answer?
Pretty Please,
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He is 10yrs old .......you 2 fail incredible as usual! :o
Maybe some cute cut and paste answer?
Pretty Please,
SirLoin is coming across to the Community as a 10 year old.
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If that is your definition of skill then you play right into the other side of the argument.
You can defeat opponents with one set of skills in this game....BnZ. But that doesn't not make one a skillful player. If you think about it Bat, this game truly requires 5 tools to be called a skillful player:
1. SA
2. Aerial Gunnery
3. Angles Fighting
4. E fighting
5. The ability to move fluidly between Angles and E ACM
By your definition, a skillful player can employ only 2 of these skills and defeat his opponent no matter what they are flying. Lots and lots of players are three tool players but they are not skillful....the truly skillful that you and the rest of community recognize have 4 to 5 skills. Poll it if you like, but its the truth.
Well that means, by your definition, you still have 5 skills to go :aok :rofl
Word.
I agree SF... Bat has a way with the... Word! :salute
Get's out the Puppet Broom,
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SirLoin is coming across to the Community as a 10 year old.
So? take it out on his kid?
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Greetings Fin, how are you today? Having a wonderful day as always? I hope so :)
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<---Puts up the Cryrock Light!
Scotch needs yur expertise :aok :rofl
we need a leg smiley,
Ole FlyinFuzzy, rubbing my ankle raw for years now... now go make me some money.... and while you're down there humpin, tell IrunVet to move over a little and give you more room. :aok
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Ole FlyinFuzzy, rubbing my ankle raw for years now... now go make me some money.... and while you're down there humpin, tell IrunVet to move over a little and give you more room. :aok
My ankle was raw long before you came around sonny :rofl
Matter fact Subby wouldn't approve of your theft of the term. Arp!
Sweep,
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Not sure. but this is what happens to timid people:
http://john-sanderson.com/files/Aces%20High/Stang/b252komg.ahf
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Sirloin....your son is a timid coward....
DA? :rock
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SirLoin is coming across to the Community as a 10 year old.
And what is wrong with that ? Living you'r life vicariously through you'r son >.
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<---Puts up the Cryrock Light!
Scotch needs yur expertise :aok :rofl
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Well that means, by your definition, you still have 5 skills to go :aok :rofl
I agree SF... Bat has a way with the... Word! :salute
Get's out the Puppet Broom,
funny you run your yap....but typical wont back it up :rolleyes:
you and chalenge good buddies huh.....
you 2 are the biggest keyboard warriors in the history of keyboards....no im serious....if I was our keyboard I would commit Seppuku....I cant get over how tough you punch those keys :O
very impressive :aok
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Well that means, by your definition, you still have 5 skills to go :aok :rofl
I agree SF... Bat has a way with the... Word! :salute
Get's out the Puppet Broom,
This might be true but I betcha if we compared brainpans and paychecks, you wouldnt get past the first round of the "bracket". I'm quite certain that's more important. Don't do your johnson-measuring in-game...it won't cash at the bank, lmao.
And we'll never know about your skill...since your nancy-views of the DA are bordering on paranoia....childish.
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I disagree. What you are saying is that one must use a more complex fighting method than is required just to prove 'skill'.
That is similar to using five knots to tie something when only two knots are required for an adequate job.
If your opponent is so simple to defeat that only two of your skills list are required then it is nothing but chauvinism to employ all five skills. Doing this says ' Hey look at all the skills I know about! Am I not skillful?'
Why use more than is required to get the job done? Only use what skills are required and then when on a rare occasion all five skills are required in one fight your 'skill' can be shown to the world for a valid reason.
You have made my point sir. Only using the necessary skills is one thing...you are then saying on rare occasions you need to use the other required skills...if you don't have them, you can't use them which makes said person, less skillful. People with less skill as seen, in-game, by other players, should stay out of conversations where skills are discussed lest they be made fun of, become butt-hurt, and then post about how they don't need anymore skill to get the job done.
Actually, I would rather you have used the "its their money, let them play how they want to" argument...because I know for a fact you know better than what you typed sir. You have no need to vote-pander.
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You missed my point. As for getting better eh I can get better dueling people that I respect.
Understood. But on the rare occasion you get someone you don't respect, like FlyinFinn, to join you in the DA, then you get to kick his arse AND get a little better...well, Finn is a bad example of helping you get better. Sorry...but I'm sure you understand, yes?
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funny you run your yap....but typical wont back it up :rolleyes:
you and chalenge good buddies huh.....
you 2 are the biggest keyboard warriors in the history of keyboards....no im serious....if I was our keyboard I would commit Seppuku....I cant get over how tough you punch those keys :O
very impressive :aok
:rofl Next time I need some images of atrophy... I look up your pics.
You and cryrock same time no problem.
:ahand
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Understood. But on the rare occasion you get someone you don't respect, like FlyinFinn, to join you in the DA, then you get to kick his arse AND get a little better...well, Finn is a bad example of helping you get better. Sorry...but I'm sure you understand, yes?
Yes certainly a bad example for you as you are an easy kill.
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This might be true but I betcha if we compared brainpans and paychecks, you wouldnt get past the first round of the "bracket". I'm quite certain that's more important. Don't do your johnson-measuring in-game...it won't cash at the bank, lmao.
And we'll never know about your skill...since your nancy-views of the DA are bordering on paranoia....childish.
The DA wouldn't be any different than the MA for you... so stop putting on a show.. you know whats what :aok
Edit: Btw your are sounding a little like ManAWar.... I do work hard no doubt about that! Yesterday I moved <twice> , mixed and poured 75 bags of 90lb creet in 4 footings. Of course the day before was the Brain day :headscratch: Went home drank a little Hornitos, eat Steak & Artichokes a nice salad, had a glass of Bordeaux, played game and upped my Ju87G2 Kill Tally WOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOO!
Life is Good,
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You have made my point sir. Only using the necessary skills is one thing...you are then saying on rare occasions you need to use the other required skills...if you don't have them, you can't use them which makes said person, less skillful. People with less skill as seen, in-game, by other players, should stay out of conversations where skills are discussed lest they be made fun of, become butt-hurt, and then post about how they don't need anymore skill to get the job done.
Actually, I would rather you have used the "its their money, let them play how they want to" argument...because I know for a fact you know better than what you typed sir. You have no need to vote-pander.
I don't understand most of what you typed there Change. I mean, I know what the words by themselves mean, they just don't make much sense strung together in that order. You seem to be the spokesperson of the muppets lately. A highly coveted position no doubt. I don't agree or like your assessment of skill in this game. I see it as elitist and narrow minded. Sometimes I would go as far as calling it out right bullying. That doesn't mean we cant be friends or that we can't enjoy me kicking your butt in the DA from time to time even with my lesser viewpoints on skill. I have no idea what-so-ever where votes or panda bears came into it.
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Like I said before, skill in this game is the ability to defeat your opponent(s) no matter how or what they are flying.
Very true
I will add a good player with a more energy efficient ride, using that energy advantage to B&Z your eyeballs out of your skull can be very frustrating but also takes a rather high level of experience and skill to do it aggressively. Those who go at it aggressively to "WIN" are very capable. Those who do it less aggressively and concentrate on "not losing" are generaly fodder.
Although maker and I have had our differences and I too believe the Brew to be very easy "out of the box" he is clearly and has always been one of these capable players.
I believe most issues in this game come down to basic philosophies that cultivate how peeps approach the game.
1- The "play to win" crowd, these folks seek out battle to win it disregarding the potential consiquences. These folks play in several styles, B&Z, T&B, and kind of soft middle ground of the 2. But the common ground for all these folks is the desire to win. This type of individual routinely will lock horns with an opponent and even though many other opponents will try and pick him he will always be trying to kill that 1st dude, he may be avoiding the others but you can be sure he knows exactly where the 1st dude is at all times, and this is because he has not won that engagement yet. This type uses his planes and situational advantage to push the fight towards victory and when he loses advantage and the fight it is most likely cause his desire to win overshadowed his fear of losing, so fleeing never was a solution for him.
2- The "play not to lose" crowd, These folks use their advantages to stay alive, they are always aware of a way to "get out" whether it be by diving away, maintaining enough energy to separate or one that is common for those in this crowd who fly turny birds to turn aggressively and HO thereby turning the fight in to a game of chance rather than a chess match. These players also play in the same styles as above, B&Z, T&B and the middle ground but intead of "winning" being formost on their thoughts, they reserve "not losing" as equal to winning. Not being shot down for them is some weird superiority even though they did not shoot down the other guy. This type also has no qualms over running away then returning for the simple pick when you are otherwise engaged. The "play to win" crowd usualy does not suffer this malody cause they never thought of running in the 1st place.
There is room for both philosophies in this game, but they surely will never see eye to eye cause one of them will always turn away :aok
JUGgler
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:huh :huh :huh :old: :old: :old: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :old: :old: :old: :huh :huh :huh
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Sirloin....your son is a timid coward....
DA? :rock
Junky ...you are a waste of the Tax payers money...
MA? :rock
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why do you hate your son so much that you would name him Marlon? :headscratch:
do you suspect he's really the milkman's or something?
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:banana:
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triple post :uhoh
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Yes certainly a bad example for you as you are an easy kill.
Ahh yes...our little MA evening which was my third night back after a 6 month layoff. Ok. I give ya that as one little success for ya. Now? Lol. Lets see...if your that good, the DA would be no problem for ya then.
I'll wait for your answer...don't screw it up.
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The DA wouldn't be any different than the MA for you... so stop putting on a show.. you know whats what :aok
Edit: Btw your are sounding a little like ManAWar.... I do work hard no doubt about that! Yesterday I moved <twice> , mixed and poured 75 bags of 90lb creet in 4 footings. Of course the day before was the Brain day :headscratch: Went home drank a little Hornitos, eat Steak & Artichokes a nice salad, had a glass of Bordeaux, played game and upped my Ju87G2 Kill Tally WOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOO!
Life is Good,
Lmao! Your insecurities betray you...I expected some physical labor response but not of the he-man-bag-lifter kind. Oh well...lol.
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SirLoin is coming across to the Community as a 10 year old.
Like Finn? Lol...the can spend some quality time together mouthing and moving concrete.
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Junky ...you are a waste of the Tax payers money...
MA? :rock
Junky,
This is coming from someone who has only served himself a sandwich. Lol. It's like watching a train wreck happen with the benefit of knowing when and where.
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:rofl Next time I need some images of atrophy... I look up your pics.
You and cryrock same time no problem.
:ahand
:rofl
sad little boy you are.....sux that your heart pumps koolaid :aok
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Ahh yes...our little MA evening which was my third night back after a 6 month layoff. Ok. I give ya that as one little success for ya. Now? Lol. Lets see...if your that good, the DA would be no problem for ya then.
I'll wait for your answer...don't screw it up.
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/character/smiley-vault-character-260.gif)
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(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/character/smiley-vault-character-260.gif)
I'm taking that as a no....lmao! As usual.
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I'm taking that as a no....lmao! As usual.
I be in the MA tonight U come set me straight. :D
Okay Sweetheart,
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And Debrody- - - the MOST timid of all players. Pure smack. I have film!
I've had some of the best fights of my AH career with Debrody.
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I be in the MA tonight U come set me straight. :D
Okay Sweetheart,
You have all the charisma of a retarded, left-handed, meth-addicted, neurotic venomous snake and NONE of the comparative charm.
edit: Thanks so much for crapping up another thread like a seagull who just ate from the fastfood chinese dumpster.
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It is I..I weep :cry...I am that most timid....forgive me. Boo Hoo.
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:devil
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:rofl :rofl :rofl. :ahand
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I be in the MA tonight U come set me straight. :D
Okay Sweetheart,
And that answer would be:
Sure! Can't wait.
When your boys drop, try that phrase....mmkay?
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What's her ingame name?
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So? take it out on his kid?
You assume too much.
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Looks like flyinfin soiled the thread, like he does his pants anytime there is a muppet within icon range.
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Not marlon1. Marlin1. The I in the name.
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Looks like flyinfin soiled the thread, like he does his pants anytime there is a muppet within icon range.
Is that who Megafish is?
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Is that who Megafish is?
Makes sense now, if Grizz is correct.
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yep
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You assume too much.
He has a tendency to do that...but his rages on 200 are epic. I wonder if he fills his depends on one rage or if it takes like, two or three before he's gotta change um.
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Looks like flyinfin soiled the thread, like he does his pants anytime there is a muppet within icon range.
:rofl QFT from my experience! The "cry" talk is just one of his ways to red herring the fact that he is not far down on the list... some of the best b-slap reversals of my time in AH has been flyingfud getting ownt attacking me with all the advantages. :rofl
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Looks like flyinfin soiled the thread, like he does his pants anytime there is a muppet within icon range.
Couldn't resist? whats you in game shade?
Dolt,
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He has a tendency to do that...but his rages on 200 are epic. I wonder if he fills his depends on one rage or if it takes like, two or three before he's gotta change um.
If you had a clue what you are talking about....it would be in your Depends :aok
lol change up's last nite, filled with rage, comes to get my 109g2 w/gondies in his zeke he is all saddled up on my 6. I didn't even know he was there, <large fight going on>, till I felt a few pings.
How did it come out Change? :D
Reversal Dead,
:rofl :rofl
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Dung
You are ignoring this user.
Edit: Just like in the Game... how nice :aok
Samson Sheared,
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a good purse swinging contest, just like the old days :aok
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Couldn't resist? whats you in game shade?
Dolt,
Grizz
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Grizz
Lol .......yeah I know. I meant the last current 1 :rofl :rofl
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Lol .......yeah I know. I meant the last current 1 :rofl :rofl
Still grizz. Look it up.
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If you had a clue what you are talking about....it would be in your Depends :aok
lol change up's last nite, filled with rage, comes to get my 109g2 w/gondies in his zeke he is all saddled up on my 6. I didn't even know he was there, <large fight going on>, till I felt a few pings.
How did it come out Change? :D
Reversal Dead,
:rofl :rofl
Yes, huge furball, it wasn't a zeke, it was a KI84 and PW blackout certainly constitutes an easy reversal. But you digress. Immediately following that, you had your excuses all lined up for not wanting to go somewhere quiet where there are no interruptions, no green guys to help either of us, and no excuses. As I've said, if you're that good, you have nothing to fear. I'll be happy to provide my films of our DA session to you to forward to Skuzzy or whomever you choose to authenticate them against your previously stated fears, which, femininely are:
1. Use of a Muppet gun site
2. Use of F3
3. Another player in my plane with me
4. Incorrect ammo load outs
But still you love the possibility of help.
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Still grizz. Look it up.
He thinks you're shading around as RedBull.
ack-ack
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He thinks you're shading around as RedBull.
ack-ack
Yes, he's whined at Redbull repeatedly with this. It's pretty funny.
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pfft
mega/fin is a coward......
a cell/keyboard warrior......
one who says "ya lets fight" but then runs to the principal's office after school......
we all know this to be true, why bother even talking or lowering yourself to the tardlette's level....
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You are ignoring this user.
Edit: Just like in the Game... how nice :aok
Samson Sheared,
Sounds good, yet you don't seem to ignore me, ever! ...always have been an easy kill and an easier ankle puppy. :rofl
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Is that who Megafish is?
I take it then that a number of our regular forum denizens didn't witness the double train-wrecks only a few weeks ago that was the Hs-129 thread in general forum and "my" Ju-88 thread in the wishlist that he created for me.....
:noid
Judge for yourself:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,345217.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,344608.0.html
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I take it then that a number of our regular forum denizens didn't witness the double train-wrecks only a few weeks ago that was the Hs-129 thread in general forum and "my" Ju-88 thread in the wishlist that he created for me.....
:noid
Judge for yourself:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,345217.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,344608.0.html
what do you mean bye train wrecks? you wiped out?
I think you were pretty much slammed on that 1 :aok
Come up with any werk numbers yet any evidence that the ju88p-1 was ever used in combat?
What.. what do you mean NO?
:cheers:
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Yes, huge furball, it wasn't a zeke, it was a KI84 and PW blackout certainly constitutes an easy reversal.
other drivel
WTF are you talking about
I'm sorry ... That's even better ...It was you in your plane... you were so close I never saw an Icon ....just the outcome of the forced over shoot ... a green wing with the rising sun on it and I blasted away...
Of course ...you Know what it said... Changeups dead :lol
That must have been painful
sorry never flown the Jap stuff not a connoisseur
I don't like sushi either,
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WTF are you talking about because I'm high
I'm sorry ... That's even better that you had a pilot wound...cuz I couldn't do it without it...It was you in your plane which is where people normally get pilot wounds... you were so close I never saw an Icon ....just the outcome which I guess my luck will run out sooner or later... a green wing with the rising sun on it and I blasted away...
Of course ...you Know what it said... Changeups dead and I got lucky again :lol
That must have been painful that a skill-less tard like myself got ya
sorry never flown the Jap (because i like to use racist slang) stuff not a connoisseur of anything in life but concrete bags
I don't like sushi either because they won't let me in the door of places that have a menu that's prices are higher than McDonalds
Fixed
Nothing changed....you still won't go to the DA... :rofl and I still see yellow every time you type. I don't suspect that will change.
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Fixed
Nothing changed....you still won't go to the DA... :rofl and I still see yellow every time you type. I don't suspect that will change.
You see yellow every time you wake up... prolly wont change either :aok
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You see yellow every time you wake up... prolly wont change either :aok
Yep, I gotta get your wife outa my bed...she's a mess
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Yep, I gotta get your wife outa my bed...she's a mess
my wife is white :aok ..talk about racist ...I just meant you must bee a bed wetter ...you are so insucure!
Roadkill Cafe Wok Soup,
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my wife is white :aok ..talk about racist ...I just meant you must bee a bed wetter ...you are so insucure!
Roadkill Cafe Wok Soup,
Yes she is! Look, there have got to be some workshops you can go to to help you with "those" problems. She cleans my house up before she goes home so she's no bother :aok
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Yes she is! Look, there have got to be some workshops you can go to to help you with "those" problems. Don't worry, I'll keep letting her yellow up my bed til you get yourself some help. She cleans up before she goes home so she's no bother :aok
Actually Change I'm not married never have been and have no children... and I have no idea who that man is in your Bed?
You cheating on me? :furious :O
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Actually Change I'm not married never have been and have no children... and I have no idea who that man is in your Bed?
You cheating on me? :furious :O
Lmao! How's prison? Why am I not surprised you aren't married! Lol. Not enough self-loathing women out there? Lmao! They must have some class you can take to man-up enough to find some poor woman out there. I guess you're in game cowardess is not different in RL. Women can smell wusses a mile away.
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Prison treating you well?
What Prison? I have never been to prison.
Your attempts to be little me fail like the rest of the puppets or was this post for stink and cryrock?
Ba Da Da Da,
Lmao! How's prison? Why am I not surprised you aren't married! Lol. Not enough self-loathing women out there? Lmao! They must have some class you can take to man-up enough to find some poor woman out there. I guess you're in game cowardess is not different in RL. Women can smell wusses a mile away.
Couldn't get it right the 1st time?
I have had more women before I was 18 then you've had in your miserable existence.
Helped raised 7 kids not mine and helped plenty of other's
I have no in game cowardliness ask any1 in the game.
I'm the 1st 1 headed to the fight. And yes I am extremely handsome so I've been told :aok
You on the other hand...well you just have to deal with what god gave you :rofl
Keep tryin,
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What Prison? I have never been to prison.
Your attempts to be little me fail like the rest of the puppets or was this post for stink and cryrock?
Ba Da Da Da,
Don't lie. It's not becoming of you. I'm just going to tell everyone what you told me on VOX years ago. The state you live in wont let you reproduce....you'll completely screw up the gene pool. It's ok man...try like yourself anyway. You can do it!!!!
Edit: your female cousins do NOT count. Stop ramping up your number
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:rock Muppets. Change :devil
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Don't lie. It's not becoming of you. I'm just going to tell everyone what you told me on VOX years ago.
I never Lie... I hate liars, cheats and thieves!
Do tell.... far as I know I've never talked to you on vox
Tell Us,
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FlyinFud, you should know better by now... you have been ownt, reversed, totally dominated in this game by me and my squad for as long as I can remember seeing your name.... it has always been so and you know it... you're a joke to us, a good laugh at your expense ... everytime we see you "pretending" to have a clue about knowing how to dogfite, we chuckle a little... because we have seen how hard you try to kill you some muppets, and when one of us finds you, one vs one, you always die... over and over again... it is always the same outcome... Muppets owning your sorry arse! :rofl
PS could you switch to my othe ankle, you and IrunVet are working that one over!
:aok
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I am extremely handsome so I've been told
What your mom says doesn't count.
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I never Lie... I hate liars, cheats and thieves!
Do tell.... far as I know I've never talked to you on vox
Tell Us,
Dude....come on. I was new and you were trying to show me "moves" you said would make me the best player in the game. I thought you were awesome for helping me then you started in on your personal life. Its cool. You can get help for that. Remember?
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How come muppets dont come hunt/stalk/find me anymore like ya'll use to? (I swear you all used to single and pick me out :noid )
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Yes, huge furball, it wasn't a zeke, it was a KI84 and PW blackout certainly constitutes an easy reversal. But you digress. Immediately following that, you had your excuses all lined up for not wanting to go somewhere quiet where there are no interruptions, no green guys to help either of us, and no excuses. As I've said, if you're that good, you have nothing to fear. I'll be happy to provide my films of our DA session to you to forward to Skuzzy or whomever you choose to authenticate them against your previously stated fears, which, femininely are:
1. Use of a Muppet gun site
2. Use of F3
3. Another player in my plane with me
4. Incorrect ammo load outs
But still you love the possibility of help.
I must have one of these!
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I never Lie... I hate liars, cheats and thieves!
Do tell.... far as I know I've never talked to you on vox
Tell Us,
This purse fight is a disgrace. Why don't the two of you take it to e-mail?
- oldman
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I never Lie... I hate liars, cheats and thieves!
Do tell.... far as I know I've never talked to you on vox
Tell Us,
:O :rofl :lol
Comming fom the individual who claims to be above utilising a wiki, and challenging others to not do so... before directly quoteing a wikipedia article as fact, and supplying to use the wiki's stated "legitimate", indisputable, and fact-filled source on factory prodution and serial numbers from a single page within the anals of a museum guidebook printed in 1975....
:noid
Judge for yourself:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,345217.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,344608.0.html
Lawnchair - set. Popcorn - ready. And, go.
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Couldn't resist? whats you in game shade?
Dolt,
What kind of a dolt signs his post "Dolt"?
Real Shmaht
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I'm so timid, I'm running from this thread :bolt:
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This purse fight is a disgrace. Why don't the two of you take it to e-mail?
- oldman
Email? Are you serious? He can't even take himself to the DA and that is menu driven. WTH makes you think he can find the email?
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What kind of a dolt signs his post "Dolt"?
Real Shmaht
Yay, SunBat is here, the average IQ of this thread has just increased by 25 points :O
JUGgler
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Dude....come on. I was new and you were trying to show me "moves" you said would make me the best player in the game. I thought you were awesome for helping me then you started in on your personal life. Its cool. You can get help for that. Remember?
No but I do remember you whining on my shoulder that you were losing your house, your wife was leaving you and going back to her family in Korea or the Philippines or something and your dog died and you wanted to shoot yourself ..... that what ya meant?
Nupty,
Edit: Oh and for the slow 1's they aren't signatures. Its what I think of the poster I'm responding to...what are you new?
Dumbazz,
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Can someone call Sunbat? I'm not quite sure how to get Fin off Changeup's ankle :headscratch:
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Can someone call Sunbat? I'm not quite sure how to get Fin off Changeup's ankle :headscratch:
That's because its the other way around look at all the ankle humper's showing up on my leg .... Fin (http://fc02.deviantart.net/images/i/2002/34/8/5/Leg_Hump_emoticon.gif)Dung
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Well that was just too easy :)
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:aok yes it was
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Another forum gangbang, many-on-one.
Not much to be proud of, is it people?
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Another forum gangbang, many-on-one.
Not much to be proud of, is it people?
who are the many and who is the one?
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who are the many and who is the one?
looks to me as more a forum scissors fight....advantage keeps moving from one guy to the next!
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Or a cluster f*ck :)
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This thread has gotten better. Still a little lvl 1'ish.
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Or a cluster f*ck :)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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jeez its been over 6 months since i quit flying, lol see not much has changed
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Can someone call Sunbat? I'm not quite sure how to get Fin off Changeup's ankle :headscratch:
I have wear marks and Fin owes me two pairs of shoes
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No but I do remember you whining on my shoulder that you were losing your house, your wife was leaving you and going back to her family in Korea or the Philippines or something and your dog died and you wanted to shoot yourself ..... that what ya meant?
Nupty,
Edit: Oh and for the slow 1's they aren't signatures. Its what I think of the poster I'm responding to...what are you new?
Dumbazz,
Please fellas, it's his sigs.....he's not in a right way. The force is weak in this one
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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jeez its been over 6 months since i quit flying, lol see not much has changed
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac300/Changeup1/photo_zpsa6dd4d40.png)
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Man this thread went a strange direction. lol.
so pjk pand and rocky are agreed upond to be timid. i want to nominate wmaker as well. has anyone seen him fight 1v1 out of his brew?
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Man this thread went a strange direction. lol.
so pjk pand and rocky are agreed upond to be timid. i want to nominate wmaker as well. has anyone seen him fight 1v1 out of his brew?
I haven't but will you do it and post the vids?? Lol. K4 sounds good.
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Man this thread went a strange direction. lol.
so pjk pand and rocky are agreed upond to be timid. i want to nominate wmaker as well. has anyone seen him fight 1v1 out of his brew?
You called PJK timid in this thread because he shot you down and you didn't like your trip to the tower. You whined, whined and whined on Ch200 to Pjk and then you ran to this BBS to start this very thread. MA isn't your private sand box where everyone needs fly exactly as you say. As far as flying goes, Pjk has hell of a lot more to do with flying than you most probably ever will. You obviously didn't learn much from you recent mute. From now on I'll send material like the one below straight to HTC.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/Squatitkee_zps2fe7773d.jpg)
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Euro trash! This is an outrage! :old:
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post what you want maker. Your still timid from what i have seen over the years. i can't recall you fighting 1v1 in all the years i have played AH. and to the European players please don't think i think bad of all you. just wmaker and his squad. :aok
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to the European players please don't think i think bad of all you. just wmaker and his squad. :aok
Just FYI: Most of us Finns share one squad radio channel although we do have separate squads. So on MA we act pretty much as one single squad. Thank you for sharing your opinion of players coming from one certain country.
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Euro trash! This is an outrage! :old:
Who knows, maybe he hangs out at bad 'discotheques' and wears his button down shirts with too many buttons undone just so he can excessively flaunt his love rug and his cheap gold-plated thin chain necklace....
tis the mystery...
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Just FYI: Most of us Finns share one squad radio channel although we do have separate squads. So on MA we act pretty much as one single squad. Thank you for sharing your opinion of players coming from one certain country.
I didn't see Squat say anything about anyone but wm and his squad. Since you are not IN his squad, I take it you're here to cover wm's retreat as usual?
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Just FYI: Most of us Finns share one squad radio channel although we do have separate squads. So on MA we act pretty much as one single squad. Thank you for sharing your opinion of players coming from one certain country.
so then all the players "on vox" are afraid to fight 1v1 in a video game??? Even when pjk has alt he runs and makes an excuse no amo or no fuel. i have watched him up and not 5 min later run home and swear he was out of fuel. And wmaker. Well that guy is just a joke. He crys on vox "help help " when he 1v1 in his brew. Then runs away from anyone in a 1v1 weather in his dora or his KI.
You called PJK timid in this thread because he shot you down and you didn't like your trip to the tower. You whined, whined and whined on Ch200 to Pjk and then you ran to this BBS to start this very thread. MA isn't your private sand box where everyone needs fly exactly as you say. As far as flying goes, Pjk has hell of a lot more to do with flying than you most probably ever will. You obviously didn't learn much from you recent mute. From now on I'll send material like the one below straight to HTC.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/Squatitkee_zps2fe7773d.jpg)
I started this thread a week after running into PJK. I started this thread to ask the community who they think the most timid players are. Can't help more and more names are coming to mind. i think your a lil but hurt your name is on the list. And other agree about the timid PJK. You are what you are maker. A timid runner afraid of fighting 1v1. along with the rest of your squad. Especially PJK
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And squat receives foot in mouth award. You cannot help idiots.
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Almost forgot. thanks for the mass report this morning wmaker and company. so upset abotu being told to make sense lol. your squad even runs to mommy like timid lil individuals of the youg female persuasion
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Would anyone like some tea or crumpets?
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Euro trash! This is an outrage! :old:
Maybe just a misspelling and he really meant Euro Thrash? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBytUjy1074)
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..... uh-boy....
Hey, when you Finns (and other Euros) come sweep through my area to gang on Squat to turn his K4 into pulp, please ignore my 190. Promise, I'll figure it out quick and leave the gagle of enemy brewsters alone.
Almost forgot. thanks for the mass report this morning wmaker and company. so upset abotu being told to make sense lol. your squad even runs to mommy like timid lil individuals of the youg female persuasion
At least now you know who is doing it. :rofl :D (was it legit this time, again?)
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Hey, when you Finns (and other Euros) come sweep through my area to gang on Squat to turn his K4 into pulp, please ignore my 190. Promise, I'll figure it out quick and leave the gagle of enemy brewsters alone.
Here, put this sticker on your plane
(http://image.spreadshirt.net/image-server/v1/designs/10658149,width=190,height=190/I-Love-Europe-(2c,-NEU).png)
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Here, put this sticker on your plane
(http://image.spreadshirt.net/image-server/v1/designs/10658149,width=190,height=190/I-Love-Europe-(2c,-NEU).png)
I'd update it to my squad's art, but then SQUAT would just bi!@# about wearing it on all his planes until I change it back. :devil (love you bro! thanks in advance for dragging us all into this. :aok :rock )
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And squat receives foot in mouth award. You cannot help idiots.
You should seek help then.
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You should seek help then.
By his own admission he can't be helped.
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Here, put this sticker on your plane
(http://image.spreadshirt.net/image-server/v1/designs/10658149,width=190,height=190/I-Love-Europe-(2c,-NEU).png)
No problem with Europeans. Just the few i was talking about.
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Im the one that needs help. Riiiiiiight lol.
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I started this thread a week after running into PJK.
You are lying here. PJK shot you down, long winded crying and sniveling on Ch200 and you ran to the BBS and started typing.
Almost forgot. thanks for the mass report this morning wmaker and company. so upset abotu being told to make sense lol. your squad even runs to mommy like timid lil individuals of the youg female persuasion
Again, you're full of it as per usual. I hadn't said a thing to you, got Saluted by another player. I answered so you knew I was online and immediately typed "<finger> wmaker" and continued with your usual garbage. The mute was well deserved.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/Squatjatkaa_zps7b9474e6.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/Squatjatkaa2_zpsf4d2f5ca.jpg)
Was I offended by your drivel? Heck no! But as it was a good way to shut you up within the rules of the game, worked like a charm. :)
i think your a lil but hurt your name is on the list.
Trust me, your opinions I could care less about.
I didn't see Squat say anything about anyone but wm and his squad. Since you are not IN his squad, I take it you're here to cover wm's retreat as usual?
I see you are still upset. ;)
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I didn't see Squat say anything about anyone but wm and his squad. Since you are not IN his squad, I take it you're here to cover wm's retreat as usual?
I'm "in his squad" by sharing the same squad vox channel and bulletin board. By the LeR3 (Flight Regiment 3) activity covering all Lentolaivue squads I'm in his squad.
I'm not in his squad by the squad name shown with my nick in the Roster. By the squad name, wmaker has been the only representant online of his squad lately.
If I have understood right, PJK has been counted as a member of wmaker's squad in this discussion. Well, he isn't. PJK is in my squad. So I take you count all of us on wmaker's squad vox as being in his squad.
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Squat does that screen shot mean you are text or VOX banned in the game now? Are you trying to make it a clean sweep and get the ban hammer in here too?
Well after you get nailed with the Ban Hammer by Hitech or Skuzzy. At least you still have your privleges back at the Pigs site. Though, you get real cranky every time Skuzzy nails you with his hamnner. We may need to look into passing the hat and get you a crash helmit for your birthday.
Skuzzy or HiTech please use the softer end of the hammer this time. Squat's head is starting to look real lumpy these days...................
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SQUAT fingered Wmaker ... in public :O
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Please post more screenshots. He has to be in the running for the worst sportsmanship award.
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You guys need to be nice to each other. :old:
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SQUAT fingered Wmaker ... in public :O
Actually, it was a full-hand noodling...backside first.
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Please post more screenshots. He has to be in the running for the worst sportsmanship award.
For 200, not even close...and its Rookie ball compared to some stuff I've heard on direct VOX lately.....almost reminded me of DrDeath's old dooshery.
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Actually, it was a full-hand noodling...backside first.
spit water everywhere LMAO :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I dont see anything in that screenshot that should get him muted.... is finger a bad word? is swollow even a word? and as far as someone calling someone else a whiner, isn't taddle telling the ultimate form of whining?
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You know exactly what he meant. Lololol. This thread.
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I dont see anything in that screenshot that should get him muted.... is finger a bad word? is swollow even a word? and as far as someone calling someone else a whiner, isn't taddle telling the ultimate form of whining?
i'm used to being text muted. Heaven forbid people talk trash in a video game were the objective is to KILL the people on the opposing teams. I'm sure football players baseball players and soccer players never talk trash to each other. But it's what ever. Muteing me doesn't change the fact that WMaker and his squad are timid. And finding out who is the most timid player is what this thread is all about
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i'm used to being text muted. Heaven forbid people talk trash in a video game were the objective is to KILL the people on the opposing teams. I'm sure football players baseball players and soccer players never talk trash to each other. But it's what ever. Muteing me doesn't change the fact that WMaker and his squad are timid. And finding out who is the most timid player is what this thread is all about
:aok
:cheers:
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i'm used to being text muted. Heaven forbid people talk trash in a video game were the objective is to KILL the people on the opposing teams. I'm sure football players baseball players and soccer players never talk trash to each other. But it's what ever. Muteing me doesn't change the fact that WMaker and his squad are timid. And finding out who is the most timid player is what this thread is all about
I'm sure the ball players do that. I'm also sure it is poor sportsmanship when they do.
Kill them with kindness.